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    I downloaded the current website version of the Boyd slot club rules and it doesn't include the wording about advantage players that mickeycrimm posted about. Does anyone have a copy of the rules showing that text or is there a new link to it?

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    Thank you. Which promotion is this about?

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    The new rule applies to all their promotions and drawings.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Forgive me if I'm off topic. First, a quick story. Then a question. I was sitting at a machine a couple of Saturdays ago because there was one particular game I was interested in watching and that seat gave me the perfect view. Cocktail waitress comes up, I order a beer, tip her a buck. She comes back and says "if you want you're next drink free, you're going to have to play the machine." So I put in a $20. Got down to my last $4.58 and figured "what the hell, I just paid $20 for this beer." Well, it hits and I'm hoping I get my $20 back, then by the time it stopped, the math for the credits done quickly in my head indicated I'd more that doubled my investment with a $45 return. Then I realize ticket read $450 and was happier than a pig in poop.

    So I have another beer, tip the waitress $20, and goes cash my ticket. When I come back, there is a couple looking at the machine. We had a brief convo and they said they go around looking at machines that have just paid off. But I didn't think too ask them so I'll ask you guys. Is a machine that just paid big a good thing or a bad thing?

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    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Forgive me if I'm off topic. First, a quick story. Then a question. I was sitting at a machine a couple of Saturdays ago because there was one particular game I was interested in watching and that seat gave me the perfect view. Cocktail waitress comes up, I order a beer, tip her a buck. She comes back and says "if you want you're next drink free, you're going to have to play the machine." So I put in a $20. Got down to my last $4.58 and figured "what the hell, I just paid $20 for this beer." Well, it hits and I'm hoping I get my $20 back, then by the time it stopped, the math for the credits done quickly in my head indicated I'd more that doubled my investment with a $45 return. Then I realize ticket read $450 and was happier than a pig in poop.

    So I have another beer, tip the waitress $20, and goes cash my ticket. When I come back, there is a couple looking at the machine. We had a brief convo and they said they go around looking at machines that have just paid off. But I didn't think too ask them so I'll ask you guys. Is a machine that just paid big a good thing or a bad thing?
    No machine is hot. No machine is cold. No machine is due to hit. Per the strategy used the odds always remain the same. If the chance of a full house is 1 in 90 and you hit one the chance that you will hit one on the next hand is 1 in 90. This also applies to all other hands you can hit.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    No machine is hot. No machine is cold. No machine is due to hit. Per the strategy used the odds always remain the same. If the chance of a full house is 1 in 90 and you hit one the chance that you will hit one on the next hand is 1 in 90. This also applies to all other hands you can hit.
    Thanks Mick. Another question. There was this dealer they'd always bring in to cool me off. He was very good at his job. Hence, not someone you soon forget.

    I noticed his wife would watch other machine players during his shift of dealing blackjack. Then, after his shift, he changed clothes and they'd go around and play certain machines. She'd point and he'd check it out, play a few spins and go on to the next. I only noticed because he kicked my butt. I suppose they had a system? But then, it must not be too good or he wouldn't be dealing cards.

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    Twilight zone.


    Moses,

    What year and casino did they bring in a cooler?

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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Twilight zone.


    Moses,

    What year and casino did they bring in a cooler?
    Circus Circus. Probably 20 years ago. They eventually 86ed me. But coolers still exist in pitch games. I can point them out to you. Perhaps not as subtle as they used to be though.

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    I looked over the language in the promotion rules. It appears this is for the 11x multiplier days. If you follow "the letter of the law" then anyone playing correct strategy on any full pay game including 25-cents 8/5 Bonus Poker could be impacted.

    I doubt that's the case. My GUESS and I am emphasizing GUESS because that's what it is, is that Boyd added this language as a new "catch all phrase" to establish it's boundaries.

    I doubt Boyd will take action against any player on its properties playing full pay video poker using correct strategy because they'd have to throw out nearly all of their players at the Suncoast, for example, which is loaded with locals who seem to always be on the full pay games and playing correct strategy. That's what you find at these locals casinos.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I looked over the language in the promotion rules. It appears this is for the 11x multiplier days. If you follow "the letter of the law" then anyone playing correct strategy on any full pay game including 25-cents 8/5 Bonus Poker could be impacted.

    I doubt that's the case. My GUESS and I am emphasizing GUESS because that's what it is, is that Boyd added this language as a new "catch all phrase" to establish it's boundaries.

    I doubt Boyd will take action against any player on its properties playing full pay video poker using correct strategy because they'd have to throw out nearly all of their players at the Suncoast, for example, which is loaded with locals who seem to always be on the full pay games and playing correct strategy. That's what you find at these locals casinos.
    How the hell would you know if they are playing correct strategy? I'm 100% certain you have no idea what the correct strategy is for any casino VP game.

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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    How the hell would you know if they are playing correct strategy? I'm 100% certain you have no idea what the correct strategy is for any casino VP game.

    Why don't you back off of Alan. Every time he posts you jump in with some drunken fucked up sarcastic comment. It's getting played out, you fucken fraud.

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    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    How the hell would you know if they are playing correct strategy? I'm 100% certain you have no idea what the correct strategy is for any casino VP game.

    Why don't you back off of Alan. Every time he posts you jump in with some drunken fucked up sarcastic comment. It's getting played out, you fucken fraud.
    Calling Axel a fraud shows how little you know. And Alan can handle it or he wouldn’t keep coming for more. Why so angry Mr Hole?

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    This rap says they won't include some games, and we all know what that means. Many casinos do this for certain types of promotions. So the addition of the part about AP's was frivolous.

    It also says certain "known AP's" within the Boyd system would be "notified in advance" of their disqualification. So with the inimitable collection of self-proclaimed ap's here or anywhere, how about someone put up their disqualification letter that we may judge their prowess?

    And what kind of social LOSER spends Christmas Day inside of a casino anyway??

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    I ignore Axel. I know it's just him playing games. I also ignore keystone and MaxPen.

    But I have new respect for kewlj. Frankly I'd rather read about kewlj talking about blackjack and even EV and counting two tables than the garbage about Rob Singer's sex organs and his crap about wives and daughters. And it's hideous that Dan allowed it to continue this long.

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    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Calling Axel a fraud shows how little you know. And Alan can handle it or he wouldn’t keep coming for more. Why so angry Mr Hole?
    "It doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking".

    Anyone (blackhole) who doesn't see that Axel knows what he is talking about (and thus not a fraud) simply doesn't want to see that. They want to see their own alternative reality and believe what they want to believe, not what is real.

    Axel is a bit of a weasel. He can be a back-stabber and is not one of my favorite people, but he most definitely is NOT a fraud in regards to advantage play.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I ignore Axel. I know it's just him playing games. I also ignore keystone and MaxPen.
    You should un-ignore MaxPen. He is probably my favorite poster on this forum. He is sharp and has a great sense of humor. He also tells it like it is. Maybe that is the part you don't care for.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Calling Axel a fraud shows how little you know. And Alan can handle it or he wouldn’t keep coming for more. Why so angry Mr Hole?
    "It doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking".

    Anyone (blackhole) who doesn't see that Axel knows what he is talking about (and thus not a fraud) simply doesn't want to see that.
    Aside from all of axel's dodgey and unchecked input into various threads, I believe we saw all we needed to know about him when he put gift cards up for sale at a discount on this forum. It was a very desperate move, and removed all mystery about whether he and his merry band of "highly bankrolled ap's" are the successful bunch of LV ap-hoodlums mickey and other WoV anonymous cowards here built him up to be.

    kew is a weaky.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I ignore Axel. I know it's just him playing games. I also ignore keystone and MaxPen.

    But I have new respect for kewlj. Frankly I'd rather read about kewlj talking about blackjack and even EV and counting two tables than the garbage about Rob Singer's sex organs and his crap about wives and daughters. And it's hideous that Dan allowed it to continue this long.
    I’m crushed...it’s really important to me that you like me 😥😥😥

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    And what kind of social LOSER spends Christmas Day inside of a casino anyway??
    Ahem. One that likes a free turkey/ham buffet? It was either that or come to your place Rob.

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