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  1. #121
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    The problem with some of these guys like Alan and blackhole is they think they can insult there way into finding out what the play is.
    Are you really that full of yourself. Websites like this https://www.advantageslots.com/category/fyi/ along with all other types of information sites are available to get anyone interested in AP'ing started.

    It's not a big secret anymore. Besides if I wanted to duplicate your income, all I'd have to do is get a bicycle and a couple of giant leaf bags and fill them up with deposit bottles, not having to risk any cash except maybe the cost of a flat tire.

    For you to think that anyone here is trying to pry an AP play from you or anyone else you no doubt are delusional.

  2. #122
    mickey, you're like a poor Sri Lankan who wakes up after sleeping on a bed of hay with bugs all night, and thanks Allah for all his blessings. Which, of course, is absolutely pathetic.

    You've been a social, financial, and actual failure your entire life. But now, because you can pull formulas, calculations and theoreticals off of WOO and post it all here for the half dozen who bother even looking at it, you're suddenly this "rogue outlaw of gambling knowledge" who lurks in the parking lots of obscure Indian casinos.

    Well there you have it in a nutshell. My only question is, how long before all that rubbing you give your dick will it be before the gambling genie finally pops out??

  3. #123
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    My only question is, how long before all that rubbing you give your dick will it be before the gambling genie finally pops out??
    Rob with the utmost respect intended. You are about as full of crap as a Christmas goose. But you are one funny motha. That was hilarious. You should really consider stand up comedy if you haven't already.

  4. #124
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Hey Bozo,

    The Mick and Monet are ganging up your Classy Top Gun AP.... No response from his biggest fan ... you ???
    Sorry Asshole, of no concern to me, and just saw this. But since I'm in a good mood I will explain to you my experiences.

    Without getting into too long an explanation, I respect both these guys and am sorry to see them fighting.


    Both have helped me on plays and made me money with ZERO expectation in return. I have met Axel and never once felt like he was trying to scam me or use me. Sorry if that's what you don't want to hear but he certainly doesn't need me to defend him to anyone and certainly not to the likes of you. And the people he works with and I have met are also top notch and have again never tried to pull anything with me. I'm a better gambler from knowing them and I'm proud to say I have met them. I can't say they have gotten anything from me other than grief from me.

    And Mickey has helped me over the years both from public posts he has made before I knew him better and on private info he has given me. He had no obligation to do that and risked losing plays by doing it. Again he has never asked for anything in return. If you do the research, Mickey has always been one to share information he has learned over the years. He is a fountain of knowledge and of course he is not going to publicly share everything he has going now but just on the River Horses games and others, anyone with common sense can follow his writings and make money if they are willing to do the work he does. It's not easy and certainly not for everyone, but it's what he does and he is the Best at it I know. And Yes, Mickey knows who I am, where I live and others things and is always welcome at my place. Again I'm a better person for knowing him.

    As for Monet, never met him, will admit I have again learned from what posts and would be foolish to ignore it. But he is someone I would have no interest in meeting and I'm sure the feeling is the same. When he talked about that he could have robbed Axel, and thought it made him a good guy for not doing it, it told me everything I cared to know about him.

    As for the 2 not getting along today, shit happens, still both good people in my mind.

    Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear and yes, I still believe you are piece of shit Mr A Hole.

  5. #125
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Fuck off candy ass bitch. Kj is right. I've seen you're punk shrimp ass. Five nothin'. A hundred nothin'. Just the right height to suck Shack's dick. Your hero is putting out misleading information on the AGS 5K's too. Now let's talk about how all you do is run multiple cards on freeplay to make a living. Scumbag bullshit. You're not a gambler. You're a fucking cheater. You work skippers too. That is, until you got your punk asses busted. You're a disgrace to the profession.
    Either Mickey had an alcoholic response to Axel, or your character judgement sucks.

  6. #126
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    And Yes, Mickey knows who I am, where I live and others things and is always welcome at my place.
    LOL Yea, he knows everything about you based on what you told him via PM. With all the wisdom you pretend to exhibit, you would think you know better than try and make a fool out of everyone.

    Get lost you bullshit artist.

  7. #127
    AW was telling me a good story when he was 3 sheets that night.
    He was telling me about bars and 4 of a kind promotions.
    Something I have done and already knew about.
    He was telling me how they would leave the quads on the game and collect and hit it again and again.
    Sometimes the people in charge didn't care or understand.
    I believe that because I have done and seen it myself.
    However, I told him that it isn't right or worth it especially if you are risking a good spot.
    He responded that it isn't illegal because Gaming doesn't see it that way.
    He told me it is a Grey Area.
    LOL... Grey Area... Character Judgement... Good Stuff... Good Stuff.

    About Shack... all his pals at WoV talk behind his back.
    They claim he has Asperger's but nobody will openly talk about it.
    It seems that Shack gets into confrontations and they use this excuse to smooth over the disagreement.
    Obviously that sort of thing didn't work with me because I am not too agreeable.

  8. #128
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    And Yes, Mickey knows who I am, where I live and others things and is always welcome at my place.
    LOL Yea, he knows everything about you based on what you told him via PM. With all the wisdom you pretend to exhibit, you would think you know better than try and make a fool out of everyone.

    Get lost you bullshit artist.
    blackhole, you're witnessing the "AP mantra". One steps in and lies about the other and they reciprocate, while claiming each knows a ton about the other from what one says in a PM. But ask bozo to give us info on his real name, restaurant etc., and it turns into a vulgar wordsmithing session that would make mickeycrimm blush.

    These clowns spent many years bowing at the altar of the wizard. Yet have you ever seen ANY of them acknowledge their humiliation over Wizard having to beg for money because his "ap of ap" methods just didn't work? Then we see wizard's protege Axel humble himself in much the same way with his gift cards desperation sell. Is there any doubt why these guys get so frustrated that they're always at each other's throats?

  9. #129
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    blackhole, you're witnessing the "AP mantra". One steps in and lies about the other and they reciprocate, while claiming each knows a ton about the other from what one says in a PM. But ask bozo to give us info on his real name, restaurant etc., and it turns into a vulgar wordsmithing session that would make mickeycrimm blush.

    These clowns spent many years bowing at the altar of the wizard. Yet have you ever seen ANY of them acknowledge their humiliation over Wizard having to beg for money because his "ap of ap" methods just didn't work? Then we see wizard's protege Axel humble himself in much the same way with his gift cards desperation sell. Is there any doubt why these guys get so frustrated that they're always at each other's throats?
    I enjoy as much as you pointing this stuff out. They could talk all day long here about active plays in the open and I couldn't care less and probably wouldn't participate. It's the endless obvious bullshit their trying to convince others to believe I enjoy debating. Imagine someone taking KJ's bullshit for real?

  10. #130
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    The problem with some of these guys like Alan and blackhole is they think they can insult there way into finding out what the play is.
    Are you really that full of yourself. Websites like this https://www.advantageslots.com/category/fyi/ along with all other types of information sites are available to get anyone interested in AP'ing started.

    It's not a big secret anymore. Besides if I wanted to duplicate your income, all I'd have to do is get a bicycle and a couple of giant leaf bags and fill them up with deposit bottles, not having to risk any cash except maybe the cost of a flat tire.

    For you to think that anyone here is trying to pry an AP play from you or anyone else you no doubt are delusional.
    Bitchstinkhole, you are the least of my worries. You don't have the brainpower to AP.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #131
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    mickey, you're like a poor Sri Lankan who wakes up after sleeping on a bed of hay with bugs all night, and thanks Allah for all his blessings. Which, of course, is absolutely pathetic.

    You've been a social, financial, and actual failure your entire life. But now, because you can pull formulas, calculations and theoreticals off of WOO and post it all here for the half dozen who bother even looking at it, you're suddenly this "rogue outlaw of gambling knowledge" who lurks in the parking lots of obscure Indian casinos.

    Well there you have it in a nutshell. My only question is, how long before all that rubbing you give your dick will it be before the gambling genie finally pops out??
    You're the one that rubs the bottle with the genie in it hoping for good results.. You're a pure voodoo gambler.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #132
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    My only question is, how long before all that rubbing you give your dick will it be before the gambling genie finally pops out??
    Rob with the utmost respect intended. You are about as full of crap as a Christmas goose. But you are one funny motha. That was hilarious. You should really consider stand up comedy if you haven't already.
    Slapstick would be more to Rob's form. He's to stupid to play a Moe or Larry but Curly would be right up his alley. Or Stan Laurel.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #133
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    blackhole, you're witnessing the "AP mantra". One steps in and lies about the other and they reciprocate, while claiming each knows a ton about the other from what one says in a PM. But ask bozo to give us info on his real name, restaurant etc., and it turns into a vulgar wordsmithing session that would make mickeycrimm blush.

    These clowns spent many years bowing at the altar of the wizard. Yet have you ever seen ANY of them acknowledge their humiliation over Wizard having to beg for money because his "ap of ap" methods just didn't work? Then we see wizard's protege Axel humble himself in much the same way with his gift cards desperation sell. Is there any doubt why these guys get so frustrated that they're always at each other's throats?
    I enjoy as much as you pointing this stuff out. They could talk all day long here about active plays in the open and I couldn't care less and probably wouldn't participate. It's the endless obvious bullshit their trying to convince others to believe I enjoy debating. Imagine someone taking KJ's bullshit for real?
    No one is trying to convince you of anything. Everyone knows you are to stupid to learn it.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #134
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Since Bill Yung isn't around I will post this in his absence.

    “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
    - Albert Einstein -
    Monet, Bill is most recently posting using his sock puppet "Badbeet".

  15. #135
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    The problem with some of these guys like Alan and blackhole is they think they can insult there way into finding out what the play is.
    Are you really that full of yourself. Websites like this https://www.advantageslots.com/category/fyi/ along with all other types of information sites are available to get anyone interested in AP'ing started.

    It's not a big secret anymore. Besides if I wanted to duplicate your income, all I'd have to do is get a bicycle and a couple of giant leaf bags and fill them up with deposit bottles, not having to risk any cash except maybe the cost of a flat tire.

    For you to think that anyone here is trying to pry an AP play from you or anyone else you no doubt are delusional.
    I was playing those games well before advantageslots.com came along. He hasn't really put that many exploitable games up but I'm sure he will be putting up more. And since you are a happy loser, blackhole, go ahead and follow his strategies on those games. You won't have to worry about the mental strain of winning because they are losing strategies. You will be able to maintain your status as a happy loser. I'm impressed with his attempt to monetize AP information via the internet but, if those are the strategies he uses, I'm not impressed with his ability at exploiting slots.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #136
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Dan Druff, you have been "considering" limiting Singer to a single thread of section for a week now. It is Dec 31....time to make a decision. Do you want to attempt to clean up this site at least a bit going into a new year?

    And here is another one for you to consider: Blackhole. I just read through his last 40 blackhole posts. Not a single one contributes anything close to positive. Each and every one is an attack on either mickeycrimm or myself. EVERY single one!

    And just like Singer, Blackhole announces his intentions in the final line of this post, he just wants to be disruptive.

    Personally I don't think this site can be saved. It is what it is. A shithole were bitter old trolls banned from other sites for being nothing but trolls and disruptive have congregated and are not only allowed to troll and be disruptive, but encouraged by the lazy Canadian that runs the forum, who by his inactions has proven he is as much a scumbag as the bitter trolls he encourages.

    I encourage the other AP's, as well as good intentioned legitimate non AP members of this site to stop feeding these trolls and boycott this shithole.

    And a happy New Year to all.

    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Unlike you a complete failure outside of gambling. I couldn’t imagine trying to go through life counting on the outcome of casino games combined with who knows what’s the next marketing idea the casinos might or might not offer, or for how long it will exist.

    Just the thought of trying to raise a family, buy a home, cars, clothes for all, health insurance, college tuitions, weddings, retirement, and at least another hundred things I forgot about, all based on the outcomes of casino games and marketing scams my calculator says could happen.

    Do you doggy bag the comped food and bring it home for the family to fight over? Never mind I forgot; you BBQ burgers for thanksgiving. What did you have for xmas, hot dogs? I was told you’re hitting your wine cellar tonight and pulling out your hidden stash of Ripple to enhance the wild rabbit you ran over for New Years.

    I’m here by accident and I’m now having a ball whenever I visit calling out you phony bullshit artists. It appears your existence here is just to use the site for another toilet to get rid of the endless squirting shit shooting out of your badly abused and fucked stupid ass.
    KJ I think Dan shat. or shitted?

  17. #137
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I told you that the real Vegas or Hustle or AP is not what is discussed on the boards.
    Like anything else in life it is always different in person, compared to the classroom.
    So, if you eliminate all the different plays and angles we read about over the years, and you have to agree the list is endless including all mathematical possibilities, there are still unknown plays that could support a healthy life and future for the select few in the know?

    In other words, you’re saying today AP’s are still withdrawing endless amounts of cash right in the front of casino eyes? If so, how long do you think it will last? Of course I'm talking about casino games and marketing. Not WON maneuvers.
    You completely misunderstood my point.
    My point was that nothing goes according to plan.
    Anything said or written down or drawn up is always more than what it actually is.
    My point is that no matter what you choose to do for material gain you are going to most likely have a struggle.
    Once on WoV they were trying to say that the average AP makes 100k per year.
    I said that was completely false.
    No reason for me to keep going on and on and on.
    My point was that most people in general are struggling.
    I see no reason that some Gambling Forum should change the outcome of everyday statistics.

    Yes you have rare cases of APs or whatever making millions but that is not the norm.
    The norm is a grind like anything else.
    If you own a business you are going to be at a 66% chance of losing or breaking even.
    That is a rough estimate and I tend to believe it is higher but the point is Life is not Easy no matter what these posts or members type down.

    One thing is for certain.
    It all can come crashing down at any moment.
    (For anyone in anything)
    You can bank on that.
    Now I am glad I have read the thread as this above beauty is one damn good post. Reality is all so true.
    Last edited by BoSox; 02-09-2019 at 07:03 PM.

  18. #138
    Rob Singer Wrote:

    "Need I say how funny it's been over the last hour reading the direction this "mickeycrimm approved forum" has taken without me being involved for the past 10 days? I'm more loved than I thought."

    "First, here's what someone like myself--who's not completely infatuated with needing either to be in casinos or talk gambling 24/7--is able to do and actually does during the holidays. My wife, little dog and I drove up and I flew my children and their families to a 6-bedroom home I rented on the Lake at Incline Village. Cindy and I never once left the house other than for our daily 5 mile walks. The young people did all the shopping, work, and going out for entertainment. We simply supplied all the funding from A to Z. And in case any of you detached people want to know what it's like, there is no better feeling for grandparents than being able to get your entire family around you at the end of their extremely busy years after running in the rat race....especially in this manner and at my wife's and my favorite place on earth."

    "All-in-all, I'd say you guys need me around here, wouldn't you? But if I were to get 86'd or put into one thread or whatever that suggestion was, you would not see me humiliate myself like the butt-boy always does. I would simply do what I just did over the last 10 days and leave with a smile on my face, continue on with a life only people like blackhole and deech might understand, and leave the little people to their eternal bickering and AP one-upmanship.

    Until then---Wise up."


    Rob, your story sounds very familiar, and I had to think back a long, long way to the days of my youth to recall your style of intertainment. You are like one of those old villians of wrestling in the center of the ring with the microphone in hand cursing out anyone and everyone as being lowlife scumbags. Bragging with that big inferiority complex of yours talking about your supposed wonderful life. Rob, there is a big difference with comparing those old stars of the WWF and yourself, those villians of yesteryear made their money putting on that fake facade. With you the joke is all on you as you believe it all to be true. In reality with the personality that you show here you have to continually buy your family to visit you. Hell one day we may see your name on a crime show about how you were a victom of a conspired family murder. Go ahead and enjoy your its a wonderful life Jimmy Stewart. I am willing to bet that you never once in your lifetime experienced the enjoyment of life anything comparable to what mickeycrimm experiences every single day!

  19. #139
    As I phase myself out of this forum that's turned into what seems to be mostly strange & satirical commenting about the shortcomings of other forums, I'm delightfully seeing how Dan backed poor kew into his familiar corner again by skillfully articulating how a story about a 5-figure session bj loss for someone who claims a "5-figure yearly bj income", is hardly compatible with reality. Dan actually shot down his claim (as kew went bonkers with his usual Alan rant ) just after kew made his predictably expected and hotly anticipated claim of "hey guys did I tell you?....I won back all of that $29000 and more!" Phew! We can all rest easier now that his virtual internet reality has come full circle. And what's the matter Dan--don't you realize that five figure royals are hit all the time in blackjack?!

    Anyway back to the real world, and a little education in life and living for my BoSox friend. First, from the anonymous handle I gather he's a Red Sox fan, probably a Patriots fanatic, and maybe Bruins and Celtics fan. As a guy who grew up and went to schools in Mass., so am I! We've had a great run since 2001--the absolute best ever for any US city. And I can be a huge fan of these guys with or without any of the idiotic political bs some of them ignorantly spew (waaa....waaa....I'm not goin' to the White House etc. among other moronic nonsense). Cora badmouthing the administration's efforts after the hurricane was totally stupid, in the face of the massive amount of work and money our great people did for the greasers down there. In a few years when Brady & Belichick are gone I'll have no love loss and will never watch another Negro Football League game again unless they straighten out their act.

    Not sure why you allude to me someday, somehow being involved in family crime or whatever you wrote. Very odd. But here's a few teachable moments when it comes to kids and grandchildren--something not really running rampant with enthusiasm on this or other gambling forums.

    It's a good thing for families to try and get together at least once a year, and while they all can't make it every year, it all comes together for us maybe once ever 4 years or so. Grandparents love to see their grandkids almost more than their children, because they never really see them as much as they've spent time with their own kids. As I said, it's a good thing.

    The "you buy them" point you made I can only guess it comes from inexperience or inability to do much for your own. My wife and I are of the belief that it makes no sense for children to get the spoils only after our death--why not share it with them now, esp. if we know we'll never use it all up? I've always been the one in the family who's a health nut, and unfortunately, there's a small chance I'll be cursed with outliving them all. So sharing as we have done is the only way to go in that regard.

    As for mickey's "wonderfully enjoyable life" as you say: maybe it is....but nobody really knows for sure. And compared to mine, it's royally different....even more than apples and oranges. We've both had our bumps, for sure. I don't know much about his other than the elephant in the room: he's been a lifelong alcoholic. He may or may not still be a user today (he says he isn't) but it sure isn't hard to understand how that problem kept him from having had what most people see as a full, successful life. Yeah people on forums like to say what a great life he has because of the freedom he portrays having. Isn't that the essence of what gambling forums like to see? Again, no one knows what's real and what's not. That's exactly why almost all posters are anonymous unknowns. Is he for real with his low level profiting stories that has certainly infatuated other "AP's"? Unknown....but he's fun to poke.

    My "bumps" are different, and because I'm a known person the forum haters always bring my shortcomings up. But you know what? Every time they get agitated enuf by me (isn't that the true purpose of these forums?) so as to be forced to bring up the same things again, it makes me feel good because I know none of it has anything to do with how my life has gone and continues to go to this day.

    It all boils down to simple common sense deduction. I look back at my working career, my long marriage, and my family, and I see life-contribution, meaning, and continuing ancestry. From what we know about mickeycrimm and without being mean, exactly what will be his epilogue? Yes, he may have enjoyed not accomplishing much over his lifetime and whatever it is that he does today. I honestly don't hate the guy for it. Everyone has a right to live as they choose (unless of course that nutjob AOC ever gets any kind of mock-free attention). So I do hope he's happy. You too--although I deeply suspect that you really are not.

    I hope you're all the wiser at this moment.

  20. #140
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I'm delightfully seeing how Dan backed poor kew into his familiar corner again by skillfully articulating how a story about a 5-figure session bj loss for someone who claims a "5-figure yearly bj income", is hardly compatible with reality. Dan actually shot down his claim (as kew went bonkers with his usual Alan rant ) .
    Dan did no such thing. Dan actually acknowledged the huge variance associated with blackjack card counting that I have shared in sharing my experiences and declared that for him (Dan) that he doesn't care for that kind of variance and swings, so he doesn't care for blackjack play.

    Only you and your demented mind, could read what Dan posted and see what you wanted to see rather than what he said. Because you are seriously mentally ill, living in a completely fantasy universe.

    So stop taking Dan's words and twisting them, you nasty old demented troll.

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