Mickey Honest Abe or a serious case of mythomania

[blackhole]

Recently Mickey mistook comments made by Axel and quickly responded calling out Axel as a complete fraud / crook. Mickey even went as far as telling Axel he was a disgrace to the alleged AP community.

Of course, Mickey as the right to say whatever he wants, but since he has been a member here, he past praise on Axel always backing up any of his claims and mentioned him several times as one of the top AP’s in this alleged AP community.

I don’t want to have to go through 4,500 posts from Mickey to confirm this fact. Members know exactly what I’m talking about, and of course could waddle through his posts to see for themselves.

It appears Mickey is straight up with his two-bit traveling strategy combined with his two-bit slot play. It’s all an interesting contribution to the site, showing how an AP two-bit plan could work for some people with low esteem.

We all know there is lots of bullshit being thrown around on gambling forums. But, when a member who endlessly calls for banning other members for not agreeing with or challenging his alleged claims, then turns around and contradicts everything he’s been saying for years, at the least owes everyone here he was bullshitting an apology.

This is what Mickey said to Axel after years of praise.

“Fuck off candy ass bitch. Kj is right. I've seen you're punk shrimp ass. Five nothin'. A hundred nothin'. Just the right height to suck Shack's dick. Your hero is putting out misleading information on the AGS 5K's too. Now let's talk about how all you do is run multiple cards on freeplay to make a living. Scumbag bullshit. You're not a gambler. You're a fucking cheater. You work skippers too. That is, until you got your punk asses busted. You're a disgrace to the profession.”

Up until this post above a couple of days ago according to Mickey, Axel was one of the top AP’s in Vegas.

APOLOGIZE for lying just to keep Axels AP myth alive and to falsely add credence to your own alleged claims.

Let’s try Mick to stay on topic here. Enough with the old lady twists, pictures of money, and all the other change the subject matter tricks you use.

[mickeycrimm]

I've already privately apologized to Axel. We've both wished each a happy new year and are moving on. Now I am publicly apologizing to him.

What led me to fly off the handle was in Axel's post there was no quote of Alan. The only quotes were of me. I thought it was an out of the blue ad hominem attack on me. It didn't help that I had just gotten out of bed and was waiting on the coffee to brew. I'm not really with it until I suck down that first cup of coffee. After that, I really didn't think about it until Dan pointed out that the post was probably directed at Alan. I went back over the post and seen the error of my ways. I said some things I shouldn't have. I have no clue if Axel runs multiple cards. I just threw it in there for effect. Just like I did the skippers.

What I DO know about Axel is back in the late nineties when I was just starting he was world class. I was a mini pro at that point and hung out at the Riverside/Laughlin quite a bit. Some of the local hustlers told me about Axel and his crew. They told me that when that $5 8/5 Jacks progressive in the high roller room hit $42,000 Axel and crew would come in, lock up both machines, and play until they hit the royal. That's exactly what happened. I had watched the number on that bank climb all the way to 42K and sure enough Axel and his crew showed up.

I knew at that point that the upper tier pros really didn't care to fraternize with lowly mini pros like me. So I didn't try to strike up a conversation or anything. I was just observing them and they had no clue I was doing so. I came back down the next morning. The big royal was gone and so was Axel and his crew.

At what I call the Pioneer Hustlers Convention of 2002 I discovered a play. They had put in a double time system where hands between certain parameters would pay double. The double time would come several times per hour and last one minute. I was playing $1 Jacks betting one coin between double times then five coins in double time. You had to bet at least one coin every ten seconds between double times to keep the machine qualified for the double times. Eventually the slot techs started tweaking the system down until the double times didn't come so fast making the play worth not that much money.

Meanwhile, I had observed a Las Vegas couple, J & L (Axel will recognize who they are just by the initials) on some quarter Game Kings in another part of the casino. I knew they didn't play thin edges. Sometimes they would be playing video poker and sometimes they would be playing 4-card keno. I had no clue what they were doing but it was their play so I left them alone. On the day my play dried up I noticed they were no longer in the casino. So I moseyed over to that bank to see if I could figure out what they were doing.

Got to take care of something.....I'll finish next post.

[blackhole]

What a lovely good ole story from the nineties.

I said some things I shouldn't have. I have no clue if Axel runs multiple cards. I just threw it in there for effect. Just like I did the skippers.

So what you're saying here is you're willing to make shit up for effect. How many other posts did you just throw in some bullshit for effect? You tried to drag a persons reputation down just for effect. Did anyone ever tell you you're a scumbag?

After reading this bedtime story from 30 years ago, how do we know if it's a fairy tale or a non-fiction fact. You can't have it both ways Mickey.

Do I know what a skipper is? I Don't have a clue other than I thought it was some place to eat. Please don't explain because I don't care either.

[mickeycrimm]

What a lovely good ole story from the nineties. After reading this bedtime story from 30 years ago, how do we know if it's a fairy tale or a non-fiction fact. You can't have it both ways Mickey.

Yes, very lovely story from the past....just like Singer. Over the years he's told hundreds of stories from way back then. And I know you've read a lot of them. You've also seen tons of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Singer will lie about anything. But wonder of wonders....you've never called him out on any of his stories. What's up with that, beavis?

[Rob.Singer]

What a lovely good ole story from the nineties. After reading this bedtime story from 30 years ago, how do we know if it's a fairy tale or a non-fiction fact. You can't have it both ways Mickey.

Yes, very lovely story from the past....just like Singer. Over the years he's told hundreds of stories from way back then. And I know you've read a lot of them. You've also seen tons of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Singer will lie about anything. But wonder of wonders....you've never called him out on any of his stories. What's up with that, beavis?

Hahaha! mickey finds himself with no choice but to deflect the conversation to me! And how enjoyable is it watching the collection of armchair-AP WoV rejects trying to divert the meltdown over to Alan's SON

Does it get any better than this?

[mickeycrimm]

What a lovely good ole story from the nineties. After reading this bedtime story from 30 years ago, how do we know if it's a fairy tale or a non-fiction fact. You can't have it both ways Mickey.

Yes, very lovely story from the past....just like Singer. Over the years he's told hundreds of stories from way back then. And I know you've read a lot of them. You've also seen tons of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Singer will lie about anything. But wonder of wonders....you've never called him out on any of his stories. What's up with that, beavis?

Hahaha! mickey finds himself with no choice but to deflect the conversation to me! And how enjoyable is it watching the collection of armchair-AP WoV rejects trying to divert the meltdown over to Alan's SON

Does it get any better than this?

Yes, it gets much better. Except you are on the buttend of it, Robocchio.

[jbjb]

Mickey, these clowns are just fishing for free information. Don't give it to them.

[blackhole]

Mickey, these clowns are just fishing for free information. Don't give it to them.

With Reditz gone I think this moron bought his spacecraft. Where does this fool get fishing for information from?

[mickeycrimm]

With Reditz gone I think this moron bought his spacecraft. Where does this fool get fishing for information from?

You certainly did your part to get Redietz to quit posting. Pure STUPIDITY. You are dumber than a rock. Dude is a world class college football handicapper. Lots of things to be learned from him. If you would have taken a different tact and asked him some respectful questions about the craft you might have learned something. But no, YOUR STUPID DEAD ASS BRAIN DID JUST THE OPPOSITIE. STUPID STUPID STUPID. Learning is not your forte.

[Rob.Singer]

With Reditz gone I think this moron bought his spacecraft. Where does this fool get fishing for information from?

You certainly did your part to get Redietz to quit posting. Pure STUPIDITY. You are dumber than a rock. Dude is a world class college football handicapper. Lots of things to be learned from him. If you would have taken a different tact and asked him some respectful questions about the craft you might have learned something. But no, YOUR STUPID DEAD ASS BRAIN DID JUST THE OPPOSITIE. STUPID STUPID STUPID. Learning is not your forte.

And here we see mickey mouse completing his personal humiliation by now making it about none other than that world class lying solicitation scoundrel redietz!

This is a day to remember.

[mickeycrimm]

With Reditz gone I think this moron bought his spacecraft. Where does this fool get fishing for information from?

You certainly did your part to get Redietz to quit posting. Pure STUPIDITY. You are dumber than a rock. Dude is a world class college football handicapper. Lots of things to be learned from him. If you would have taken a different tact and asked him some respectful questions about the craft you might have learned something. But no, YOUR STUPID DEAD ASS BRAIN DID JUST THE OPPOSITIE. STUPID STUPID STUPID. Learning is not your forte.

And here we see mickey mouse completing his personal humiliation by now making it about none other than that world class lying solicitation scoundrel redietz!

This is a day to remember.

Yes, a very good day to remember. Singer shows his ignorance and stupidity again.

[RS__]

Not reading all this but what the hell’s a skipper?

[AxelWolf]

Not reading all this but what the hell’s a skipper?

The machines counts more coins going in than you actually put in.

[mickeycrimm]

Not reading all this but what the hell’s a skipper?

Read posts 85 and 86.

[mickeycrimm]

Mickey, these clowns are just fishing for free information. Don't give it to them.

With Reditz gone I think this moron bought his spacecraft. Where does this fool get fishing for information from?

He's not really worried about you, bitchhole. He knows you are to stupid to learn anything. He's concerned about all those that lurk the site. They have IQ's about double what yours is.

[mickeycrimm]

The sign above the quarter Game Kings said any pays between 60 and 120 coins would pay double in double time. I took a look at the 4-card keno. The max bet was 4 coins and the 2-spot payed 60 coins (15 for 1, a 90% game). So the 2-spot fit. The only thing was keeping the machine qualified between double times. I loaded the cards with 2-spots and went with a 1 coin bet on each card to keep the machine qualified. Then hit the max bet button when the double time light came on. In double time the 2-spots would pay 180%. I quickly realized that with a 10% drop between double times the cost was going to be to high to keep the machine qualified. I had to bet 1 coin on all four cards or I couldn't just hit the max bet button and play in double time. The only way it worked was keeping all 4 cards in play.

I then took a look at the video poker. J & L were also playing video poker. I couldn't find anything with a short enough frequency that fit the parameters. Sixty coins cut out the full houses and the 120 coins didn't fit the quads. The quads would be to long a cycle anyway. There was just nothing there. Then why in the hell were J & L playing video poker too? I sat there wracking my brain trying to figure it out.

Then all of a sudden the lightbulb went off in my head. They were 1-coining the 9/6 Jacks to keep the machine qualified then in double time they would switch to the 4-card keno. EUREKA!!! I think I've found it!!! I already had the 4-card keno cards set up. So I bet one coin on the 9/6 Jacks until the double time light came on. Then I hit the change game tab, hit the 4-card keno tab and smacked the max bet button. It took just a couple of seconds and I was off and running on the 4-card keno with the 80% edge. The frequency of the 2-spot is 16.63 and I was able to get out 9 or 10 deals in the double time. That's about 36 or 40 games per light. I hit a bunch of 2-spots. Yep that was it. I figured out J & L's play. Playing the 9/6 Jacks between double times meant they were only taking a 2% drop on a quarter bet until the machine went into double time. A fricking highly lucrative play. Each double time was worth about $36 and there several double times per hour.

I had the play to myself for a couple of days. Then a friend figured out what I was doing. So he was on the bank. Axel was in another part of the casino on a Game Maker. I had no clue what he was doing on it. That play dried up so he moved over to my bank. Son of a bitch. Goddammit! The double times were being created by the ploppies betting five coins. To many hustlers on the bank betting one coin between lights drug the system down to where the double times didn't come so fast.

Axel, with his girlfriend, just sat down and started doing the same thing I was doing. He didn't do any figuring or anything. It was like he already knew the play. Dammit!

So one morning I come down, first one there, and they had changed the parameters from 60 to 120. They made it 120 to 240. Shit!!! So I look things over and decide I have to go to the 3-spot which fit the parameters. It was a weaker play. Axel came along and said "What are you doing?" I said they changed the parameters so I had to move to the 3-spot. He said no that's not what you do. Instead of playing 4 different sets of numbers on the 2-spot you set up 2 cards with the same numbers then set up the other 2 cards with the same numbers. That way, when you hit the 2-spot it will pay 120 coins and will double that. Son of a bitch. Why didn't I think of that. Thanks for the tip, axel. So we were off and running again.

So I know Axel knows his stuff. There are other plays I've heard of him on. I could tell them but that would be hearsay, wouldn't it? Do I know that he uses multiple cards today? No. Do I know that he works skippers? No. BTW, that's pretty much a dead play with today's TITO.

So blackhole, carry on with your tirades against AP's. No one gives a damn anyway. Or maybe you could explain to us what a skipper is.

[monet]

What is interesting is that the post from MC about AW was spot on.
Every accusation was true.
Not sure why the flip flop but who cares.
That post was pretty strong and gung ho and you would think if you didn't mean all of that crazy you would keep it private or think twice.
Someone could say it was a knee jerk reaction but I tend to find those type of reactions the most honest.
Either way, whatever... I am not sure why this is even in the Las Vegas Forum to begin with.

[Alan Mendelson]

What is interesting is that the post from MC about AW was spot on.
Every accusation was true.

[Alan Mendelson]

What is interesting is that the post from MC about AW was spot on.
Every accusation was true.

Mickey?

[Keystone]

What is interesting is that the post from MC about AW was spot on.
Every accusation was true.

Mickey?

SLaPINFuNK?....LOL