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  1. #81
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Nice hit and more respect for having the knowledge, bankroll and even balls to place that wager, even knowing you had an advantage.

    Some of us know what casino and location issued the check, maybe black it out in the future. Never hurts to be safe in the world today.
    Not that it matters to me but you might want to blot out customer number 207 as well.
    Perhaps even the bank name/names.
    We seen the jackpot picture... not sure the check image is needed?
    Got to live on the edge though.
    I understand.
    DarkOz understands as well.

    Nice Hit though and Thanks for Posting.

  2. #82
    Originally Posted by nerakil View Post
    jbjb- Ninety three seventy five.

    mickeycrimm- 5 free games, 3 reels wild. Hit a few second tier symbols, but no pharaohs.
    I get it now. It was a quarter denom machine. You hit for about 100 bets in the free games. Average is about 50. The free games come around about every 350 spins or so and is a big part of the payback.

    A word of warning. I've just been advised that there are some really bad pay Golden Egypt's at high denom in some casinos on the Las Vegas Strip. All of my stats on the game came from what would be considered locals places with better payback. So beware if you play the Strip.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  3. #83
    Hi Nerekil:

    Good job on that handpay and I like the discipline of getting a check. I like to get checks when I can so I cannot stuff the funds back into the machine!

    FAB

  4. #84
    About 6 months ago, my main place changed all their GEs from having 25 different bet levels $0.05 - $3.75 to only 5 bet levels $0.75 to $3.75. doesn't take as long to check through them, but there's less different screens for people to leave playable situations

  5. #85
    congrats Nerekil, great hit.

  6. #86
    I have seen the new GE Grands.... 234.... ne1 know the exact cutoff of when to play?

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    Another game that can provide a vulture opportunity if found in the right situation. As Mickey says, probably as many as ever out there if you look.

    Sorry for the sideways pic, I’m a moron.

  8. #88
    Hi Mickey, I'd like to get your thoughts on the bonus. So far I've observed the following:

    33 5/3 avg win 58x 3 highest: 140, 106, 95 3 lowest: 33, 33, 16

    32 15/2 avg win 68x 3 highest: 186, 160,150 3 lowest: 31, 30, 15

    A handful of 30/1 all between 50-100x

    Small sample size but significant difference.

    These are for both GE and GE Grand. I just recently started tracking specific game and denom.

    IF everything is equal based on your 1-350 number, your chances of retriggering are:
    5/3 1 in 70
    15/2 1 in 23.3
    30/1 1 in 11.6

    I emphasize if because the rules state; "Different reels are used during free games depending on the number of trigger symbols with which you entered the bonus and the selected number of free games"

    Thoughts on what this could mean? My guess is specifically the frequency of the bonus symbol and your chances of retriggering are the same for all games. I also wouldn't be surprised if your avg win is going to be the same for all games.

    Also, do you think one option could be better based on the number of lines played?

    Thank you.

  9. #89
    Originally Posted by LeonardShelby View Post
    Hi Mickey, I'd like to get your thoughts on the bonus. So far I've observed the following:

    33 5/3 avg win 58x 3 highest: 140, 106, 95 3 lowest: 33, 33, 16

    32 15/2 avg win 68x 3 highest: 186, 160,150 3 lowest: 31, 30, 15

    A handful of 30/1 all between 50-100x

    Small sample size but significant difference.

    These are for both GE and GE Grand. I just recently started tracking specific game and denom.

    IF everything is equal based on your 1-350 number, your chances of retriggering are:
    5/3 1 in 70
    15/2 1 in 23.3
    30/1 1 in 11.6

    I emphasize if because the rules state; "Different reels are used during free games depending on the number of trigger symbols with which you entered the bonus and the selected number of free games"

    Thoughts on what this could mean? My guess is specifically the frequency of the bonus symbol and your chances of retriggering are the same for all games. I also wouldn't be surprised if your avg win is going to be the same for all games.

    Also, do you think one option could be better based on the number of lines played?

    Thank you.
    The 1 in 350 number is just an estimation. I never did any actual tracking. When I first started playing the GE's I went with the 5 games in the bonus round. My thinking was I at least get all the 3 in a rows. But observing ploppies picking the 15 games and getting good results I switched. I tracked the first ten bonus rounds and averaged 70 bets per bonus round so stuck with that.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #90
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    The 1 in 350 number is just an estimation. I never did any actual tracking. When I first started playing the GE's I went with the 5 games in the bonus round. My thinking was I at least get all the 3 in a rows. But observing ploppies picking the 15 games and getting good results I switched. I tracked the first ten bonus rounds and averaged 70 bets per bonus round so stuck with that.
    Mickey, your 350 number is way too low. It seems to range from 550 to 650.

  11. #91
    Originally Posted by DRich View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    The 1 in 350 number is just an estimation. I never did any actual tracking. When I first started playing the GE's I went with the 5 games in the bonus round. My thinking was I at least get all the 3 in a rows. But observing ploppies picking the 15 games and getting good results I switched. I tracked the first ten bonus rounds and averaged 70 bets per bonus round so stuck with that.
    Mickey, your 350 number is way too low. It seems to range from 550 to 650.
    Thanks D, input like this is the only thing that will save this forum. And with no good reason to share this, I like to think respect for Mickey is why you did it.

  12. #92
    Originally Posted by DRich View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    The 1 in 350 number is just an estimation. I never did any actual tracking. When I first started playing the GE's I went with the 5 games in the bonus round. My thinking was I at least get all the 3 in a rows. But observing ploppies picking the 15 games and getting good results I switched. I tracked the first ten bonus rounds and averaged 70 bets per bonus round so stuck with that.
    Mickey, your 350 number is way too low. It seems to range from 550 to 650.
    Thanks for the correction.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #93
    Just played a new install of GE grand. Noted from checking the different bet levels that the reset state appears to be one coin in the middle only. Didn’t have too long to play it as was on my way to work but my impression was I like the original better.

  14. #94
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    A word of warning. I've just been advised that there are some really bad pay Golden Egypt's at high denom in some casinos on the Las Vegas Strip. All of my stats on the game came from what would be considered locals places with better payback. So beware if you play the Strip.
    Mickey would you elaborate on this a little? I see GE plays on $5 machines sometimes (not in LV) and have been a little gun-shy since reading this.

    Also what do you think about the third column being wild for one remaining spin with no gold in 1 or 2?

  15. #95
    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    A word of warning. I've just been advised that there are some really bad pay Golden Egypt's at high denom in some casinos on the Las Vegas Strip. All of my stats on the game came from what would be considered locals places with better payback. So beware if you play the Strip.
    Mickey would you elaborate on this a little? I see GE plays on $5 machines sometimes (not in LV) and have been a little gun-shy since reading this.

    Also what do you think about the third column being wild for one remaining spin with no gold in 1 or 2?
    Third line wild for 1 spin with no coins in first and second line would still be an advantage. It would cost you just for 1 spin. the first 2 rows would have to line up. in my experience you would get several small losses and some big wins when you get two Sphinx’ head lining up in row 1 and 2 you get a big payoff.

  16. #96
    To me it feels very close, you get the two King Tut heads and the occasional freak coordinated board, you get a fair number of small wins (i.e. net losses) and then mostly you get bricks.

    More curious about these low RTP machines and how common they are.

  17. #97
    GE clone?


  18. #98
    I have this where I’m at and it plays a lot different. You get the wilds more frequently but because of that the payouts are low. You are going for the blackout pay which is relatively frequent and pays 100 times the bet. Def. vulturable machines but the problem at least where I play is that these are extremely over hustled and even ploppies frequently walk by and check all the bets. Where I play I don’t bother to check all the bets anymore, instead when I walk by I’ll see if anything good is showing on the current bet and play it if it is otherwise I’ll keep walking. The game is quite fun though!

  19. #99
    Yeah, after watching a few videos, it really doesn't pay all that great. Even a full screen of wilds only paid 100x in one video. I'm guessing the money is in hitting the progressive in the bonus round.

  20. #100
    The WOO has put up a thread on GE's. And he put up some math on an 86% game. I now think my minimum plays may have been a leak in my game. I've won overall but have taken a lot of losing plays. I think I know why now. My minimum plays:

    1-1-0-0-0
    1-0-1-0-0
    0-1-1-0-0

    The Wiz reports that 1-1-0-0-0 returns just 87% but 1-1-0-0-1 returns 123%. I think if I tighten up my minimum plays to

    1-1-0-0-1
    1-0-1-0-1
    0-1-1-0-1

    I can't help but get better results.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...scpQEu2n1mU_Oy
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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