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  1. #41
    The explanation is that the machine is only played when there are coin(s) already in the 1st three columns, so that they don't have to be spun from an empty state which requires more spins than it would if there are already coins in the column(s) when play is initiated.

    I get it. You go around the casino vulturing this game just like you vulture multipliers on video poker games, and look for must hits within range.

    So... approximately how many of these vulturable events do you find per hour (on average) and what is the average return per play? I ask this because I noticed WILD spins that returned very little.
    It's all about quitting when ahead.

  2. #42
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    The explanation is that the machine is only played when there are coin(s) already in the 1st three columns, so that they don't have to be spun from an empty state which requires more spins than it would if there are already coins in the column(s) when play is initiated.

    I get it. You go around the casino vulturing this game just like you vulture multipliers on video poker games, and look for must hits within range.

    So... approximately how many of these vulturable events do you find per hour (on average) and what is the average return per play? I ask this because I noticed WILD spins that returned very little.
    I'm a one-bit hustler and make about $1500/month (the rest comes from preferred stock fixed dividends which is like a virtual annuity except you can unwind it and get your principle back or the preferreds get called away and you get your principle back) with about 4 hours work per day. I won't break it down any further than this and don't care if I'm not believed.

  3. #43
    Tableplay that's $50 a day. Okay and nothing wrong with that. I know "regulars" at Red Rock who stand at the craps table and will jump on a shooter's hot roll who cash out $100 a day doing this.

    This idea about vulturing is something I saw and did when I first went to casinos and played slots. I remember NYNY having a slot called Break The Bank or something like that and it was in the late 1990s. There was a kiosk with four big machines. You had to hit five safe combination locks. You looked for machines with two or three locks that were already open. When the safe opened with the fifth lock you'd win $40 or $60 or something like that.

    But you wouldn't see these abandoned "open locks" more than once a weekend.

    I recall going around the Strip with one of the forum members looking for abandoned multipliers on UX machines. I think he found ONE at Flamingo.
    It's all about quitting when ahead.

  4. #44
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Tableplay that's $50 a day. Okay and nothing wrong with that. I know "regulars" at Red Rock who stand at the craps table and will jump on a shooter's hot roll who cash out $100 a day doing this.
    They may cash out $100 a day, but they probably lost more than that. There is no way they make a average profit of $100 a day doing this consistently. They might be ahead $100 some days and down 200+ other days. I guess its possible(doubtful) someone has managed to win after months of play though variance. It will eventually catch up with him if he continues to play.


    If you still believe in this "hot roll" BS there is zero hope for you.

    Its amazing how you find it so easy to believe people can beat -EV games, but have a hard time swallowing that AP who play good positive games can make a decent living. I know you read and hear 3 party claims and rumors about the state of AP nowadays. That's all meaningless rumors, how would you know for sure unless YOU yourself is out in the field doing it? There are plenty of things to play nowadays if you know what to look for and change the way you do things. NO, Its not the 90's or the early 2000's. If guys are still trying to use their play book from that era, then of course they think AP has all but dried up.

    Every time I hear AP is drawing to an end, and entire new way of doing things pop up.

  5. #45
    Of course AxelWolf. APs always profit but it's impossible to hit a hot roll and cash out and leave?

    How about the guy who makes a $60 bet on 6. Shooter throws a 6. Bet pays $70. Player leaves.

    Since craps is a -EV game it can't happen, right?

    But... the APs find their abandoned 2X on UX machines and always walk away a winner?
    It's all about quitting when ahead.

  6. #46
    blackhole is absolutely right no one should play golden egypt especially if there are 2 coins on all 5 with glowing frames on all the reels it means they will be bad spins for the next 2 spins, come get me i will make the sacrifice and take those spins off your hands.

  7. #47
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Of course AxelWolf. APs always profit but it's impossible to hit a hot roll and cash out and leave?

    How about the guy who makes a $60 bet on 6. Shooter throws a 6. Bet pays $70. Player leaves.

    Since craps is a -EV game it can't happen, right?

    But... the APs find their abandoned 2X on UX machines and always walk away a winner?
    This sums up years of Alan’s BS in one post. Someone can follow “Hot” shooters on a craps table and make money daily even if the math says it’s impossible. But they can’t win daily when the numbers are in their favors. How oh how do these casinos stay in business?

  8. #48
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Of course AxelWolf. APs always profit but it's impossible to hit a hot roll and cash out and leave?

    How about the guy who makes a $60 bet on 6. Shooter throws a 6. Bet pays $70. Player leaves.

    Since craps is a -EV game it can't happen, right?

    But... the APs find their abandoned 2X on UX machines and always walk away a winner?
    I thought i covered your potential same old BS you spout. Let me re-post it.

    "They may cash out $100 a day, but they probably lost more than that. There is no way they make a average profit of $100 a day doing this consistently. They might be ahead $100 some days and down 200+ other days. I guess its possible(doubtful) someone has managed to win after months of play though variance. It will eventually catch up with him if he continues to play."

  9. #49
    And you spout the same BS: APs don't lose.
    It's all about quitting when ahead.

  10. #50
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I get it. You go around the casino vulturing this game just like you vulture multipliers on video poker games, and look for must hits within range. So... approximately how many of these vulturable events do you find per hour (on average) and what is the average return per play? I ask this because I noticed WILD spins that returned very little.
    Each casino is different. There are plenty of variables. A casino can have 50 AP'able games but if they get zero action by the ploppies you ain't going to make a dime. If they get lots of action you will crush it. But if you are competing against a dozen hustlers also picking off the plays you aren't going to make much. I'd rather have a casino with 10 machines and no competition from other hustlers than be in one with 50 machines and a dozen hustlers.

    Another thing is how many plays do you know. Someone that only knows a few games is not going to make the money I do. AP's are not created equal. Some know a hell of a lot more than others. I know most all the plays, I know where the good spots are which means ample machines with little competition. My daily average win for 2018 was $429. But that is not my net because of expenses. I'm starting out 2019 very well. Already got a 6.6K earn and we are only at the 10th day of the month.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 01-10-2019 at 02:01 PM.
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  11. #51
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    And you spout the same BS: APs don't lose.
    And you continue to spew Bullshit about people constantly winning at Craps. And garbage about “Hot Shooters”.

    Which is more believable?

    I know, you don’t believe in math, only luck.

  12. #52
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Tableplay that's $50 a day. Okay and nothing wrong with that. I know "regulars" at Red Rock who stand at the craps table and will jump on a shooter's hot roll who cash out $100 a day doing this.

    This idea about vulturing is something I saw and did when I first went to casinos and played slots. I remember NYNY having a slot called Break The Bank or something like that and it was in the late 1990s. There was a kiosk with four big machines. You had to hit five safe combination locks. You looked for machines with two or three locks that were already open. When the safe opened with the fifth lock you'd win $40 or $60 or something like that.

    But you wouldn't see these abandoned "open locks" more than once a weekend.

    I recall going around the Strip with one of the forum members looking for abandoned multipliers on UX machines. I think he found ONE at Flamingo.
    I remember break the bank and they were fairly good when you found them. They came out about the same time as the shopping spree and x factor games including NUMEROUS other games like that. While you were only finding a few of them at NYNY there were guys going to all the casinos on the strip playing about 30 other games just like that or better. No doubt they were looking 20x harder than you were. You could make a nice living at just the Bellagio when they had all their banking slots. That's not even including their Net Pay and glob shopping game. When they were available you were making at least $700 a day on just that. Almost no bankroll needed for the Net-Pay, perhaps $200 and you would be set AND NEVER have a losing day. You just sat and played 1 coin slow to stay qualified until the bonus round came on. Once that happen you got anywhere from $30 to $100 bucks I could come on multiple times in an hour.

  13. #53
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Tableplay that's $50 a day. Okay and nothing wrong with that. I know "regulars" at Red Rock who stand at the craps table and will jump on a shooter's hot roll who cash out $100 a day doing this.

    This idea about vulturing is something I saw and did when I first went to casinos and played slots. I remember NYNY having a slot called Break The Bank or something like that and it was in the late 1990s. There was a kiosk with four big machines. You had to hit five safe combination locks. You looked for machines with two or three locks that were already open. When the safe opened with the fifth lock you'd win $40 or $60 or something like that.

    But you wouldn't see these abandoned "open locks" more than once a weekend.

    I recall going around the Strip with one of the forum members looking for abandoned multipliers on UX machines. I think he found ONE at Flamingo.
    I remember break the bank and they were fairly good when you found them. They came out about the same time as the shopping spree and x factor games including NUMEROUS other games like that. While you were only finding a few of them at NYNY there were guys going to all the casinos on the strip playing about 30 other games just like that or better. No doubt they were looking 20x harder than you were. You could make a nice living at just the Bellagio when they had all their banking slots. That's not even including their Net Pay and glob shopping game. When they were available you were making at least $700 a day on just that. Almost no bankroll needed for the Net-Pay, perhaps $200 and you would be set AND NEVER have a losing day. You just sat and played 1 coin slow to stay qualified until the bonus round came on. Once that happen you got anywhere from $30 to $100 bucks, it could come on multiple times in an hour.

  14. #54
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    This idea about vulturing is something I saw and did when I first went to casinos and played slots. I remember NYNY having a slot called Break The Bank or something like that and it was in the late 1990s. There was a kiosk with four big machines. You had to hit five safe combination locks. You looked for machines with two or three locks that were already open. When the safe opened with the fifth lock you'd win $40 or $60 or something like that.
    I think you are talking about Safe Cracker. The Riverside/Laughlin had one and there was one in Jackpot.
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  15. #55
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    And you spout the same BS: APs don't lose.
    And you continue to spew Bullshit about people constantly winning at Craps. And garbage about “Hot Shooters”.

    Which is more believable?

    I know, you don’t believe in math, only luck.
    When did I ever say this? When did I ever talk about anyone constantly winning at craps or hot shooters winning at craps?

    Should I call you a liar now or after you respond with more bullshit?

    But first let's review what I posted:

    I know "regulars" at Red Rock who stand at the craps table and will jump on a shooter's hot roll who cash out $100 a day doing this.

    Is that any less believeable than winning on a -EV slot machine called Golden Egypt which probably has a payback of 85-percent?
    Last edited by Alan Mendelson; 01-10-2019 at 02:22 PM.
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  16. #56
    Although I don't play slots, we used to take a break from craps and sit and relax and waste a few bucks playing slots. I knew nothing about vulturing, but I would always search out machines like break the bank or similar games that were close to popping. I didn't know what I was doing but it was kind of common sense that if you were going to play a slot machine to play one in which the bonus was close.

  17. #57
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I know "regulars" at Red Rock who stand at the craps table and will jump on a shooter's hot roll who cash out $100 a day doing this.

    Is that any less believeable than winning on a -EV slot machine called Golden Egypt which probably has a payback of 85-percent?
    Yes it is less believable. These guys are jumping on the slot game during those times where it's over 100% payback. Those craps players are still betting into a less than 100% payback.

  18. #58
    By the way, Mickey's review is a lot like this one:

    https://www.advantageslots.com/how-t...-egypt-by-igt/
    It's all about quitting when ahead.

  19. #59
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    And you spout the same BS: APs don't lose.
    And you continue to spew Bullshit about people constantly winning at Craps. And garbage about “Hot Shooters”.

    Which is more believable?

    I know, you don’t believe in math, only luck.
    When did I ever say this? When did I ever talk about anyone constantly winning at craps or hot shooters winning at craps?

    Should I call you a liar now or after you respond with more bullshit?

    But first let's review what I posted:

    I know "regulars" at Red Rock who stand at the craps table and will jump on a shooter's hot roll who cash out $100 a day doing this.

    Is that any less believeable than winning on a -EV slot machine called Golden Egypt which probably has a payback of 85-percent?
    Your highlighted section tells it all. So you are saying there are people winning $36500 a year ($36600 in a leap year) playing hot shooters on craps. I rest my case.

    But again, why are they not betting table max on hot shooters?

  20. #60
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    But again, why are they not betting table max on hot shooters?
    Check and mate!

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