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  1. #61
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    It seems that Monet is defending Rob Singer.
    I believe that nobody has a right to be a hypocrite.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I don't think so. Monet is just pushing buttons, That's what he does. He likes to stir the pot.
    You guys shouldn't throw rocks in glass houses IMO.

    Constantly crying about your own banishment at WoV and begging Dan to ban Rob Singer.
    Since asking Dan didn't work you start to bash Dan personally in hopes that you will get your way.

    Both you and Alan have posted that you are quitting this site and never going to post again.
    However you two keep coming back for more and more.
    Giving and Taking it.
    Last edited by monet; 01-12-2019 at 01:09 PM.

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You know my saying [I]"it doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking"
    Exactly, we don't have to listen to your bullshit of making millions in Las Vegas, never being detected for 15 years, still going strong, counting two tables and jumping from one table to next cause the count is good, with bigger bets. The pits are just stupid assholes where you play.

    Yep, we know who knows what they are talking about. You missed that bus.

  3. #63
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    You guys shouldn't throw rocks in glass houses IMO.

    Constantly crying about your own banishment at WoV and begging Dan to ban Rob Singer.
    Since asking didn't you start to bash Dan personally in hopes that you will get your way.
    Monet. I think it's - those that live in glass shouldn't throw rocks. But I could be wrong. Post #56 cracked me up. Thanks. You've got a great sense of humor. Some might have taken offense. lol

    From my limited understanding, KJ has a valid reason to be pissed off at WoV. The moderator/owner or whatever the fuck he is at BJTF, bans KJ which puts him on a long long list. But then he goes another site WOV and requests that moderator/owner or whatever ban KJ. I'm not sure all of the dynamics but is sounds like damn sheecken sheet to me.

    I'm not a fan of lobbying for others to be banned. Just stand up to the guy. IF the moderator/owner or WTF he is doesn't like it? Then HE should stop it.

  4. #64
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    But unless one doesn't play blackjack like a robot they should be sent to reform school according to forum "experts."
    When someone comes to one of these forums, looking for help or information, it is their job to figure out who the experts are....ya know "who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't". I do believe some of the legitimate AP's have a responsibility to help in regards to that by calling out the worst of these offenders. And I have done that, as you know, with T3, Flash on the blackjack forums and Singer here.


    I don't know who ever told you to play like a robot. That is exactly the opposite of what is needed to be successful today. Card counting is easy as hell. A chimp could literally be taught to do it. The harder part is applying it in a manner that you will be welcome to do so on a continuing basis. That takes some outside the box thinking. I have shared a very small amount on how I do that, very small amount...for obvious reasons. What I share is 100% the truth, but the fact is that I leave out big chunks of what and how I do it. Anyone that can't understand that....sue me.

    I'll give you a little example that I know I shouldn't. Anyone who follows me, would think that I spread $25 to $500 on a regular basis because I frequently mention that. And it's true that $25 is my minimum wager (meaning the smallest wager that I make) and $500 is often my top wager (except big fight/event/holiday) times. But I almost never sit down, playing $25 and raise up to $500. That is just way too easy for anyone to see. I use numerous tricks, like spreading both way, which I occasionally mention, to alternating bet spreads and ramps, which I almost never mention, that makes it almost impossible to detect what I am doing with out punching into a computer.

    Again I am going to go where I shouldn't (I must be having a bad judgement day) and give a little example using not my specific amounts.

    Spreading both ways: Double deck game. Sit down, bet $100 off the top. Count goes up you spread to $300. Count goes down you drop to $50. That is a 1-6 spread ($50-$300), but unless the count goes both ways anyone looking, is only going to see either a 1-3 spread ($100-$300) on positive counts or a backwards 1-2 spread ($50-$100) on negative counts, neither of which is going to be too worrisome to any casino that tolerates those limits.

    Alternating spread: (I gotta be real careful with this one). 6 deck game. Guy sits down and spread $10-$100. 1-10 spread. Doing this repeatedly isn't tolerated at most places, even at this low limit. But image at the shuffle after ending the shoe with his max bet of $100 (again, not my limits, just general here), the guy starts the new shuffle with that same $100 wager and spreads to $300, maybe dropping to $50 if the count goes negative. This is now a 1-6, still a very winning spread if you aggressively exit negative counts at -2.

    So the max bet of the first spread ($100) followed by a new minimum wager of the same amount for the second spread. THAT player would be golden for a very long time. Just seeing that $100 bet after the shuffle and that pit/surveillance person will conclude this person is not counting cards and it would take a pretty long time to erase that conclusion.

    Ya gotta think outside the box.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 01-12-2019 at 01:36 PM.

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Well Rob, according to you then forums are not for people who have questions and seek info, and they're not for people with info to share? In your world forums are just a place to insult, demean and show ill will?
    Forums are a place for people who want to brag, impress their will upon, and build on their own perception of who they think they are. You actually, are completely unable to stay away from this particular place regardless of how many times you promise to be "done" here, because you are hopelessly addicted to everything gambling, and are trying very hard to compensate for SOMETHING. I really do think you should chuck your losses and depart for good, which will do what you do best: infuriate others.

    So why do people NOT want to see ME disappear from here? Simple. None of them like how I brag about being consistently successful playing my strategy, but they also realize that their complete lack of education and life experiences does not qualify them to do anything but hope I'm not for real. IE, they're too stupid to understand. This collection of little people have no clue about anything outside of the AP-mystique they read about from other "forum AP's", whom they know deep down inside would never be posting the nonsense they do if they were true and tested actual AP's.

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I don't know who ever told you to play like a robot.."
    It seem like a common phrase or reference. I have to admit Flash got in my head. Pisses me off because when I played/coached/officiated sports, no one got in my head. Really, as God as my witness, when I first went on a forum I assumed everyone employed a column. I read Thorp's book, make some tweaks, and that is about it. I couldn't figure out why I was getting banned all the time. So I learned to see the game from the oppositions side of the table.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Ya gotta think outside the box.
    Definitely a T3 statement. I'm a firm believer that the tag values assigned to cards in pitch games is crucial. Why? Because I've spent so many hours in research. Why? Because winning is vital. Why? Because losing is not an option. I think if anyone could understand what T3 is talking about it would be me. And I don't know. Sometimes I think T3 and the Blue Oyster cult are talking in circles and they can "see" it on a sim but can't "do" it at the table. Who could?

    It's a game of people played with cards. Definitely my mantra. So preparation is key. There is no tricks, no need to do all this extra stuff. It's my mind against their dealers tendencies, what is played, and what still remains to be played. Where you and I differ is it's not always about making money. Quite often, it's about not losing it in the first place. Why? Because our opponent wins by forfeit.

    That stuff Flash talks about hasn't worked since the Carter administration and I don't think he capitalized much then. His ego is likely far larger than his bank account. Now, a column/percentage count will often appear as a player doesn't have a clue to the EITS. That is not why I do it. I didn't know not to. My problem was my columns were out of whack as is Tarzan's. Your keep it simple count lingered in my mind throughout my research. But in a game of people you need more info. Then RS, summed up about 5 years worth of bull shit with his cake reference. It put it all into perspective. From there, the solutions were easy.

    I will say the end result was a matter of turning the box inside out. But I don't want to confuse anyone.

  7. #67
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Definitely a T3 statement.
    Uggh! (where is the vomiting emoji).

    Moses, there are quite a number of statements, phases ect, that this T3 person says that came from me. And that is not to pat myself on the back, but it is just fact. In questioning him about it, he says he was "influenced" by me. I mean that's ok. I participate hoping that others may find some things useful and beneficial. I mean that's sort of what you want. But I would be lying if I said that this person taking things I say as if they are his own, doesn't irritate me a little, given our history and that I am off two top forums because of that history. Just being honest.


    One of the ones that bothers me most is when he talks about casino comfort levels and tolerance levels. When I moved to Vegas, I made identifying casino comfort/tolerance levels the cornerstone of my game plan, so that I wouldn't suffer the same fate as I did in Atlantic City...wearing out my welcome. Prior to that time, I hadn't heard anyone mention these phrases. And since then...well you might think Mr. T3 came up with that himself.

    Give it a few weeks and you will be reading about how he uses alternating bet spreads and ramps.


    As for Flash: Flash is a very old man and in very poor health, so I don't want to get too negative about him. The short version is similarly to someone here, he just isn't or wasn't who he claimed to be. Flash was some kind of teaching psycologist at a university, or something along those lines. He also was an admitted life long degenerate gambler, most notably horse-racing and craps. When he retired, he took up blackjack card counting. And that is fine...nothing wrong with that. But he never lived off blackjack AP winnings. At best he offset his craps and horseracing losses. So that label he placed on himself of a 20_ year professional blackjack player was a bunch of bull.

    In the last year or so, he admitted in a post at BJTF that he averaged 32k a year in blackjack earnings. And that included one very big year that he was part of a successful hole-carding team and made like 150k. You subtract that out and he was a recreational card counter making recreational money. Again, nothing wrong with that, but that is not the way he presented himself. He presented himself as an expert. His way was right and everyone else wrong. Again, similarities here. lol

  8. #68
    Kew, do you realize that nobody here cares what goes on at other meaningless forums that you're so infatuated with?

    Your whole life surrounds around making up success stories about your "pro bj" play, how you're absolutely heartbroken over being rejected by the foreigners, minorities, queers, and weirdos on WoV, and you hopelessly holding onto some idiotic BJ site.

    Get a grip fool.

  9. #69
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Spreading both ways: Double deck game. Sit down, bet $100 off the top. Count goes up you spread to $300. Count goes down you drop to $50. That is a 1-6 spread ($50-$300), but unless the count goes both ways anyone looking, is only going to see either a 1-3 spread ($100-$300) on positive counts or a backwards 1-2 spread ($50-$100) on negative counts, neither of which is going to be too worrisome to any casino that tolerates those limits..
    Interesting concept. I play with a "what you see is what you get approach." You've got a little wise deception thing going on. Looks like some low cost ways to cover. Very good. Now I also go with an "if I can't see it, I don't worry about it." Hell, if you play non peak hours there may not even be anybody watching from the EITS. I'd hate to be that guy sitting in front of a monitor all day. You'd definitely fool the shit out of me.

    Okay, sorry I have to veer off course for a moment. Can't help my nature. In basketball, everyone's eyes follow the ball. As an official I rarely look at the ball. The most difficult call to learn is the block/charge. Actually, it's easy. You focus on the defensive player as opposed the offensive player driving to the basket. A completely different view and thus making the correct call is easy.

    So, with a player who is constantly changing his bet spread, I'd be watching what doesn't move, like the chips in the tray. Either chips are coming in or going out.

    Therefore, I give more consideration to what is happening around me than tricking them with my chips. A high roller with "stacks of blacks" was playing the other day. I wasn't watching him, I was watching who was watching him. Holy crap, who wasn't watching him? The pit boss planted herself right at the table. I thought the lady at the roulette wheel was going to break her neck trying to watch. A well dressed guy comes into the pit that I'd never seen before. I could see it all from between two slot machines while visiting with my elderly friend who didn't even know I was watching.

    The reason he lost was because his spread wasn't enough and he wasn't getting enough pen. He looked like a guy that might come out if I had a plumbing problem. He appeared clueless to his surroundings. Hence, watching the ball, eyes never left the table. HE was getting hammered. Then his cell phone rang. He stepped back from the table, answered it, talked for maybe two minutes, colored up, and exited. I've wondered if it was someone who was watching that called him.
    Last edited by Moses; 01-12-2019 at 03:46 PM.

  10. #70
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Kew, do you realize that nobody here cares what goes on at other meaningless forums that you're so infatuated with?

    Your whole life surrounds around making up success stories about your "pro bj" play, how you're absolutely heartbroken over being rejected by the foreigners, minorities, queers, and weirdos on WoV, and you hopelessly holding onto some idiotic BJ site.

    Get a grip fool.
    I am answering direct questions from a member here. If you don't like it fuck off, you 70 year old, irrelevant, has been, nobody. That's about the only significant thing you have managed to pull off. You were never anything and now you are a never-been-anything "has been", just waiting to take your last breath, while your diseased, sick mind continues to slip away. You are irrelevant. You are a ghost.

  11. #71
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Therefore, I give more consideration to what is happening around me than tricking them with my chips. A high roller with "stacks of blacks" was playing the other day. I wasn't watching him, I was watching who was watching him. Holy crap, who wasn't watching him? The pit boss planted herself right at the table. I thought the lady at the roulette wheel was going to break her neck trying to watch. A well dressed guy comes into the pit that I'd never seen before. I could see it all from between two slot machines while visiting with my elderly friend who didn't even know I was watching.

    The reason he lost was because his spread wasn't enough and he wasn't getting enough pen. He looked like a guy that might come out if I had a plumbing problem. He appeared clueless to his surroundings. Hence, watching the ball, eyes never left the table. HE was getting hammered. Then his cell phone rang. He stepped back from the table, answered it, talked for maybe two minutes, colored up, and exited. I've wondered if it was someone who was watching that called him.
    What you are describing is know as "playing in the shadow of a whale, high roller, bigger player". It has it's ups and downs. Of course the up is that all those eyes are really watching the bigger player. Down is that your table is drawing attention. With more eyes on the table, just maybe someone notices what you are doing.

    The variation of this "playing in the shadows" that I sometimes like to go with (on big fight/event nights) is to play at the table NEXT to the high roller/whale. That way the attention is diverted away from you and your table.

  12. #72
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Kew, do you realize that nobody here cares what goes on at other meaningless forums that you're so infatuated with?

    Your whole life surrounds around making up success stories about your "pro bj" play, how you're absolutely heartbroken over being rejected by the foreigners, minorities, queers, and weirdos on WoV, and you hopelessly holding onto some idiotic BJ site.

    Get a grip fool.
    Your life revolves around reading all of KJ's posts word for word. You are obsessed with him. He's in you ignorant head bigtime.
    "Walter Cronkite could not get a job in the main stream media today." Alan Dershowitz

  13. #73
    Rob. In all fairness to KJ, it is probably me who has the problem with BJTF more than KJ. Hell, I've practically got my own private forum where I can bitch, piss and moan about BJTF until my heart is content. So I do.

    However, I take a lot of my cues from you and blackhole. I will say I've learned more here in a few months than I did there is several years. I see blackjack as a game of people played with cards. I dunno, there is just something you two that helps me along my path. It's like the Johnny Nash song "I can see clearly now." I appreciate it.

    KJ is mild by comparison. It would be interesting to see you and the holey one on that forum. Maybe we could set an over under line as to how long you would last.
    Last edited by Moses; 01-12-2019 at 04:34 PM.

  14. #74
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    What you are describing is know as "playing in the shadow of a whale, high roller, bigger player". It has it's ups and downs. Of course the up is that all those eyes are really watching the bigger player. Down is that your table is drawing attention. With more eyes on the table, just maybe someone notices what you are doing.

    The variation of this "playing in the shadows" that I sometimes like to go with (on big fight/event nights) is to play at the table NEXT to the high roller/whale. That way the attention is diverted away from you and your table.
    The killer whale was playing straight up. I watching between two machines while having a conversation with my friend who was dicking around playing Keno. IF he had a winning streak they would have bounced him. IF he was a PRO then I'm Marie Osmond. Maybe he just came into an inheritance. But the phone call, that was interesting.

    The average patron doesn't recognize what is on the surface. I see below the surface. Hence, drug exchanges, hooker negotiations, cash flashers about to get robbed. If I had to guess I would say he was there for a higher purpose. I mean a plumber losing black stacks without flinching? It was like the Owning Mahoney movie.

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Kew, do you realize that nobody here cares what goes on at other meaningless forums that you're so infatuated with?

    Your whole life surrounds around making up success stories about your "pro bj" play, how you're absolutely heartbroken over being rejected by the foreigners, minorities, queers, and weirdos on WoV, and you hopelessly holding onto some idiotic BJ site.

    Get a grip fool.
    I am answering direct questions from a member here. If you don't like it fuck off, you 70 year old, irrelevant, has been, nobody. That's about the only significant thing you have managed to pull off. You were never anything and now you are a never-been-anything "has been", just waiting to take your last breath, while your diseased, sick mind continues to slip away. You are irrelevant. You are a ghost.
    I will live longer than you kew, and you will step into the grave while I live and breathe. You have multiple blood and ticker issues, probably caused from your ignorant and unsafe lifestyle. See "your partner's" death certificate for details.

  16. #76
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    It seems that Monet is defending Rob Singer.
    I believe that nobody has a right to be a hypocrite.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I don't think so. Monet is just pushing buttons, That's what he does. He likes to stir the pot.
    You guys shouldn't throw rocks in glass houses IMO.

    Constantly crying about your own banishment at WoV and begging Dan to ban Rob Singer.
    Since asking Dan didn't work you start to bash Dan personally in hopes that you will get your way.

    Both you and Alan have posted that you are quitting this site and never going to post again.
    However you two keep coming back for more and more.
    Giving and Taking it.
    Wrong.

    I don't want anyone banned. I want Dan to remove offensive posts. But Dan calls himself a free speech advocate but does free speech include libel, racial slurs and bigotry?

  17. #77
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I will live longer than you kew, and you will step into the grave while I live and breathe. You have multiple blood and ticker issues, probably caused from your ignorant and unsafe lifestyle. See "your partner's" death certificate for details.
    Funny story Rob. I went to Peppermill last season to watch the UNR vs UNLV basketball. My good, 82 year young, friend Lou met me. What a pisser he is! There is always the one guy who rambles on and on without ever saying a damn thing. I really wanted to watch the game instead listening to his big ass. So I ask which team was better, this years UNR team or the last team to reach the NCAA tourney. This sent them in the direction of deep discussion that allowed me to watched the game. By the games end, the discussion had elevated to betting on who would die first. Lou is shaking saying you will die before me you son of a bish. (HE took out his partials) I will deem it a great honor and lifelong dream to take a big whiz on your grave. The guy responds I don't want to be buried I want you to take me to Hawaii. Please hide me in the bushes face down so the birds don't to get to my eyes. I mean, holy crap, you can't make this stuff up.

    I go back in a couple of days later and the same group are discussing the topic of the best UNR team. Hell, I just wanted an hour of peace and quiet, but stirred up two days of arguments in the process. Alan hasn't got anything on me.

  18. #78
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I will live longer than you kew, and you will step into the grave while I live and breathe. You have multiple blood and ticker issues, probably caused from your ignorant and unsafe lifestyle. See "your partner's" death certificate for details.
    My partner died of an aneurysm. It was a hereditary condition. Perhaps his sons need be concerned but has no effect on me shit-for-brains. For a guy who claims to be so educated, you really are one stupid shit.

    I have just come up with a great idea for you Harry. It will be an early birthday gift. I will explain shortly when I get home. Its a doozy.

  19. #79
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I will live longer than you kew, and you will step into the grave while I live and breathe. You have multiple blood and ticker issues, probably caused from your ignorant and unsafe lifestyle. See "your partner's" death certificate for details.
    My partner died of an aneurysm. It was a hereditary condition. Perhaps his sons need be concerned but has no effect on me shit-for-brains. For a guy who claims to be so educated, you really are one stupid shit.

    I have just come up with a great idea for you Harry. It will be an early birthday gift. I will explain shortly when I get home. Its a doozy.
    Sorry kew, but common knowledge says he withered away from complications related to HIV.

    You mean you're so addicted to this forum stuff that you have to post when away from home? Just how worried about how much I explain your charade are you?

  20. #80
    Ok, so I am sure everyone remembers at various times when Harry/Rob Singer has put his full mental illness on display, with some sort of vile attack or comment, Alan would say something along the lines of "Rob isn't like this in real life". And that probably surprises nobody. That is a common troll thing. It's a cowardice thing really.

    So I am going to introduce the real Harry Argentino to the world. Well, not the whole world, but HIS world. I am going to print out a full compilation of Harry Argentino, posting as Rob Singer's, homophobic, racist, hate comments, along with all the penis stuff, complete with his desire to have other women stimulate him. And all his claims, from the million dollar video poker wins, to him purchasing homes for his children....all Harry Argentino's greatest "hits" and mail them to his friends and family members.

    You see, when a person does an internet search on someone, and pays the few dollars, as several of us have, not only all the financial and criminal stuff comes up, such as the bankruptcies, evictions, and such, but also an extensive list of family members and addresses.

    So I am going to print this stuff out....Rob/Harry's mental illness on full display and share it with his extended family members. Let them meet the real Harry Argentino. No need to thank me Harry....it will be my pleasure.

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