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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Rob...You have a lot of worthwhile information and even if there are those who don't agree with your strategy your info can help a lot of people.
    #FreeTyde

  2. #22
    How silly.

    You people act like words written on internet forums actually shape lives. Well here's a flash: you get what you want to out of them. All everyone does is twofold: you have those who search for others who will believe their stories in order that the storyteller may feel better about their mostly failed selves. Then, you have those of us who make standing fools out of those people and are entertained in the process. Period.

    Here's another stinging fact: if you walk into these dens with a frail and chaotically unsuccessful life, a life less fortunate, a life lacking in proper self-confidence, or a life frantically and constantly in need of attention and relevance, then you will continuously be torn between being frustrated and feeling that you indeed forced your will upon others who you pretend to be as you are.

    Yet if you are one of the very few who go in prepared, you will be satisfyingly entertained by all the delusion of these storyteller's posts, the vicious arguing, the vulgarity/insults & name-calling, and the purley made-up personal attacks that are always and only for "effect" and reaction.

    Clearly from a recent post here by Alan, he's concerned about how a person's behavior on a forum will reflect on some kind of legacy. Of course, this is odd, being that the vast majority of posters are anonymous. Give that some thought for a moment.

    Then switch over to how he relates that statement to known, "real" individuals such as myself and him. In my case, I lightly laugh at it. But at the same time it means the world to him, because as a person of the media he believes public perception is the end-all in life.

    However, a person such as myself (and if blackhole were not anonymous and his story is true then he'd be in my category) has zero need to be "accepted" by a bunch of online anonymous personalities, because of numerous personal and family successes that have already defined my life. People can mock someone like myself, lie about, and play pretend all they like--it's all part of the game that's played because unknown names feel safe. An anonymous poster might become frazzled and disoriented when their virtual reality stories online get ripped, smeared, or face the granddaddy of them all--the tough questions. There's a reason why they're anonymous.

    Kew is an almost perfect example. Oh how he so desperately NEEDS to have people say that they believe in him--whether they really do or not! And do not DARE ask him the tough questions, and don't you EVER disagree with a thing he says! That is....unless you don't mind watching him make a constant fool out of himself with the same old flow of pathological lies and "I'm done posting on this forum" crybabying. And to think he claims that forums were made for the "purpose of learning and the exchange of intelligent ideas for the gambler"!! What a moron.

    Wise up people. Get a real life, then post on forums. You'll find it a difference-maker.

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    How silly.

    You people act like words written on internet forums actually shape lives. Well here's a flash: you get what you want to out of them. All everyone does is twofold: you have those who search for others who will believe their stories in order that the storyteller may feel better about their mostly failed selves. Then, you have those of us who make standing fools out of those people and are entertained in the process. Period.

    Here's another stinging fact: if you walk into these dens with a frail and chaotically unsuccessful life, a life less fortunate, a life lacking in proper self-confidence, or a life frantically and constantly in need of attention and relevance, then you will continuously be torn between being frustrated and feeling that you indeed forced your will upon others who you pretend to be as you are.

    Yet if you are one of the very few who go in prepared, you will be satisfyingly entertained by all the delusion of these storyteller's posts, the vicious arguing, the vulgarity/insults & name-calling, and the purley made-up personal attacks that are always and only for "effect" and reaction.

    Clearly from a recent post here by Alan, he's concerned about how a person's behavior on a forum will reflect on some kind of legacy. Of course, this is odd, being that the vast majority of posters are anonymous. Give that some thought for a moment.

    Then switch over to how he relates that statement to known, "real" individuals such as myself and him. In my case, I lightly laugh at it. But at the same time it means the world to him, because as a person of the media he believes public perception is the end-all in life.

    However, a person such as myself (and if blackhole were not anonymous and his story is true then he'd be in my category) has zero need to be "accepted" by a bunch of online anonymous personalities, because of numerous personal and family successes that have already defined my life. People can mock someone like myself, lie about, and play pretend all they like--it's all part of the game that's played because unknown names feel safe. An anonymous poster might become frazzled and disoriented when their virtual reality stories online get ripped, smeared, or face the granddaddy of them all--the tough questions. There's a reason why they're anonymous.

    Kew is an almost perfect example. Oh how he so desperately NEEDS to have people say that they believe in him--whether they really do or not! And do not DARE ask him the tough questions, and don't you EVER disagree with a thing he says! That is....unless you don't mind watching him make a constant fool out of himself with the same old flow of pathological lies and "I'm done posting on this forum" crybabying. And to think he claims that forums were made for the "purpose of learning and the exchange of intelligent ideas for the gambler"!! What a moron.

    Wise up people. Get a real life, then post on forums. You'll find it a difference-maker.
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  4. #24
    Well Rob, according to you then forums are not for people who have questions and seek info, and they're not for people with info to share? In your world forums are just a place to insult, demean and show ill will?

  5. #25
    ATTENTION DAN: Please remove the handle of "original founder" from my listing here. I don't want that association anymore.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Well Rob, according to you then forums are not for people who have questions and seek info, and they're not for people with info to share? In your world forums are just a place to insult, demean and show ill will?
    Yes, that's what he is here for.
    "Walter Cronkite could not get a job in the main stream media today." Alan Dershowitz

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    ATTENTION DAN: Please remove the handle of "original founder" from my listing here. I don't want that association anymore.
    What an asshole. Just looking for attention, obviously Dan would see this if you PM’d him, but instead you put it here.

    And remember, you allowed the same garbage to go on here for years. Nothing changed.

  8. #28
    Yes Boz I want everyone to know that I no longer want to be identified as the original owner.

    This isn't a free speech site. This is a bullshit speech site.

    And you only joined a year ago... so what do you know about how this was run ten years ago? In fact, even Dan wasn't around for the first several years.

    Enjoy your cesspool. Kewlj was right.

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Yes Boz I want everyone to know that I no longer want to be identified as the original owner.

    This isn't a free speech site. This is a bullshit speech site.

    And you only joined a year ago... so what do you know about how this was run ten years ago? In fact, even Dan wasn't around for the first several years.

    Enjoy your cesspool. Kewlj was right.
    Things would be much better if Rob and Blackhole weren't willing to ruin so many good threads. Once they jump in it degenerates into a troll war. It's sad they don't care to make positive contributions.
    "Walter Cronkite could not get a job in the main stream media today." Alan Dershowitz

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Yet if you are one of the very few who go in prepared, you will be satisfyingly entertained by all the delusion of these storyteller's posts, the vicious arguing, the vulgarity/insults & name-calling, and the purley made-up personal attacks that are always and only for "effect" and reaction.
    Yet again, this is this Harry Argentino/Singer person declaring that his intent is not to contribute in any kind of positive manner or as Dan's twitter page states, not to be informative or provide useful stories and tips, but rather to in his own words be "vicious", with "vulgarity/insults & name calling", AND that this is all "for effect and reaction".

    This is a troll telling you he is a troll and his purpose is to troll. And he feels brazen enough to do so because he has determined that Dan Druff is either afraid of him or that Dan wants that kind of forum in the name of internet traffic.

    An internet troll, like this Harry Argentino is simply a bully. Someone so dissatisfied with his own life and in this case bitter of those that have achieved some sort of success, in a particular area where he has failed that he lashed out with personal attacks like a 5 year old. That's all it is. Harry Argentino posting as Rob Singer is a bully. Typically bullies are very big cowards and in typical fashion, Harry Argentino, a 70 year old man, does his bullying over the internet. Oh sure he will make challenges and talk of meeting people and setting scores. But none of that ever occurs, because he is a bully...all talk.

  11. #31
    Again I agree with kewlj. Including his comments about ROB and DAN.

  12. #32
    And let me tell you something else about this Argentino/Singer troll. His ridiculous and mathematically impossible video poker claims aside, almost everything else he says that isn't a made up personal attack "for effect" is simply false. I have never seen one person post so much false information. It almost seems a person couldn't get everything wrong like he does if he tried.

    As an example, here is a recent comment that he has also previously made: That no real Advantage player would participate on any forum. When he has made this claim prior, mickeycrimm, listed a number of notable machine AP's that are well known for participating on gambling related internet forums.

    And the same goes for known and notable blackjack advantage players. To name a few, Richard Munchkin, James Grosjean, Stanford Wong, Arnold Snyder, Don Schlesinger, Kevin Blackwood, Tommy Hyland and several members of the well known Hyland team like "bigplayer", several members of the various MIT teams, members of various well known international teams. All of these well known players, their success verified, have participated, most extensively on gambling related internet forums.

    I can probably predict Argentino/Singer's reaction. He will claim all of these well known players were frauds. No one made any money or achieved any kind of success. Because in his (fantasy) world, he is the only person, using alternative (fantasy) math and methodology that has beaten the casinos. And THAT world doesn't exist, except in his diseased mind.

    The fact is that AP's are just like everyone else. Some enjoy participating and sharing their experiences. Some don't. Some participate even though they know it is not necessarily beneficial, because they enjoy it.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 01-12-2019 at 09:56 AM.

  13. #33
    Keep the original founder thing next to Alan’s name just cuz he’s so salty.

    Alan you should PFA. You’ll fit right in. No one will make any Jew jokes either. Very strict.
    Last edited by RS__; 01-12-2019 at 09:58 AM.
    #FreeTyde

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Keep the original founder thing next to Alan’s name just cuz he’s so salty.

    Alan you should PFA. You’ll fit right in. No one will make any Jew jokes either. Very strict.
    Recently Rossanee Barr claimed that she was the victim of Anti-Semitism.
    I am not against anyone. However, it must be nice being Jewish and anytime you feel slighted you scream Anti-Semitism.
    Remember Saul of Tarsus? He didn't want to be tried as a Jew.
    He made it a point to be sent to Rome and to be tried as a Roman since he was also Roman.
    That didn't work out so good depending on how you look at it.
    They executed him which was bad but in his mind it was good because he was being sent to his Lord and Heaven.

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Well Rob, according to you then forums are not for people who have questions and seek info, and they're not for people with info to share?
    That was my inclination in August 2013. I was not aware of forums. I thought it would be cool to chat with a group about blackjack. I mean, it's not a conversation you just walk up and start talking about like you would a football. " Man, did you see that where they gave up a last 2nd TD and screwed me out of my point spread"? That's acceptable. But say, "man, I had two hands of 20 facing a dealers 6 and lost both hands with only one card left in the deck that could be beat me" and you get fried.

    Boy, did I get an introduction. It was like going Walmart, asking what aisle the peas and carrots are in, and then having the several employees come over, go into a rant, and beat the shit out of you for asking. Now stand up for yourself? And they throw you out of the store and tell you never to come back.

    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    In your world forums are just a place to insult, demean and show ill will?
    ...and that is pretty much the story.
    Or get out of step with the cult? And you're toast. So when one goes onto to a forum they become a mean angry SOB. Eat or be eatin.
    Last edited by Moses; 01-12-2019 at 10:48 AM.

  16. #36
    The hatred expressed on this site and allowed by Dan includes Asians, Gays, African Americans and others. Dan do you want to continue to protect this hate speech on your forum. REMOVE MY HANDLE AS ORIGINAL FOUNDER.

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    The hatred expressed on this site and allowed by Dan includes Asians, Gays, African Americans and others. Dan do you want to continue to protect this hate speech on your forum. REMOVE MY HANDLE AS ORIGINAL FOUNDER.
    Don't forget Tards.

  18. #38
    I admit. I don't read every post. From what I've read there is some biased towards KJ because is gay. But not only does he openly admit it, he sort of plays it out and shoves it down everyone's throat (bad analogy). No offense meant KJ. But if two guys are holding hands in a sportsbook they are going to catch some shit.. A ton of it. If a guy says on a forum he is going to be walking in a gay parade for the day? This will be followed with some unsavory remarks. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I am saying THAT's the way it is.

    Mickey and Rob seem to bicker beyond the realm of good conscience. But I'd say they are probably pretty good ole boys if you met them in person. I'd buy either a beer. Perhaps they should meet for a 15 minute match of shadow boxing followed a 20 minute finger pulling fart contest. First one to shit pants is declared the loser. Just a thought.
    Last edited by Moses; 01-12-2019 at 10:50 AM.

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    The hatred expressed on this site and allowed by Dan includes Asians, Gays, African Americans and others. Dan do you want to continue to protect this hate speech on your forum. REMOVE MY HANDLE AS ORIGINAL FOUNDER.
    Two clear examples of Dan's hypocrisy and inconsistency.

    About a year and a half ago in a heated discussion, I repeated the charge that a member here was a child molester. This was someone else's claim that he made often and I repeated it. Dan immediately stepped in saying I couldn't do that and deleted all references. For the record that was wrong of me and I apologized.

    However, repeated completely untrue claims that my late partner died of aids, a similarly vicious attack, meant only to be hurtful have drawn not a peep from Dan.

    Second example. As Alan alluded to, Dan allows all these hateful attacks on various groups, gays, Blacks, Latinos ( I can't say I remember any Asian slurs, but maybe I missed it). But I do clearly remember Dan getting quite upset about an anti-semitic comment to the point that he told us all that he was Jewish and was offended. So apparently Dan only cares when it hits close to home. He is fine with others being attacked.

  20. #40
    KJ. Big difference between child molester and gay. IF you're a parent you would understand that is not a term taken lightly. I was accused on another site of being anti-semitic. Hell, I had to look it up to see what it meant. I was simply lumped in with others from that forum. I never made any derogatory comments to a race. In fact, a Jewish boss in my 20's was certainly one of the most positive influences in my life. But I never thought of him in a race content. I just thought he was very wise...and thrifty.

    Quick story: My daughter was dating a black (sorry if that offends) football player the summer after her first year at college. It was a secret her and mother keep from me along with many others. Hell, I didn't even know she was dating yet. She was a very dedicated student/athlete. How did I find out? A neighbor came by and told me he didn't appreciate that kind of car parked in my driveway, cluttering up the street, and "those" people in our neighborhood. I was too dumfounded to even respond.

    But I decided skin color didn't matter. What mattered most was how he treated my daughter. He was "a play ya" as they say. So we had our little talk. lol

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