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  1. #221
    I look at it this way....I read what people write and decide for myself what I think of them. If it all adds up, then it all adds up. Oftentimes though, that's not the case.

    For example, if you have someone talking about different AP plays they've been on....but then later on, they're talking about dice-influencing (which in it of itself I wouldn't say makes someone non-AP). The person doesn't know what their EV is, or they may say some dumb shit about how they martingale their bets or press, or talk about karma or the vibe of the table, or some other nonsense. At that point, you can tell the person is full of shit in one way or another, because an actual AP wouldn't be doing dumb shit like that. And, of course, this guy has no concept of EV, variance, etc. and can't name any stats about his game.

    Compare that to the guy who may also claim to be a dice-influencer, but he can say "Over XXX in-casino rolls, these are the probabilities for each dice roll (2, 3, 4...12). The bets I make are X, Y, and/or Z [depending on point]. For every 100 throws, my EV is $XYZ and my standard deviation is $ABC." Now, he may not be successful, but you can at least tell he has his shit together because he knows what's important and going about it the proper way. Obviously looking at a few posts it may be difficult to gauge, but when you can read hundreds or thousands of someone's posts, then it paints a clearer picture.

    Look at Rob Stringer for example. All of his posts add up -- I mean, they're all absolutely retarded, but they're consistently retarded. He claims he was an AP and lost a million dollars. His main game was, supposedly, the triple payouts on quad 7's at the Tropicana Express in Laughlin at the $0.50, $1, and $2 denom (why the fuck would you play 50c or $1 when you can play $2?). After that he claims to have won a million bucks using his systems....yet, he can't name a single damn thing about them. Someone who had their shit together would be able to say, "There's a X% chance I have a winning session, Y% chance I have a losing session. My average session win is $Z. Etc..." among a bunch of other stuff. Plus, if you had a winning system like that, any normal person would play it for AT LEAST 6 months non-stop, make a few million, then retire...instead he makes a million over 10 years, only playing on weekends? Right.


    Now look at kewlj. I don't know if he's doing the things he's saying he's doing. Maybe he's an 85 year old Russian living in Siberia or some shit and it's all completely made up. I've never played near him nor met him (AFAIK), and I have no way to verify he's playing the way he's playing. But, everything he says actually adds up. The swings he talks about are real. He's not claiming a million dollar a year profit. He's not saying he plays with nearly no variance, some crazy 5% edge on card counting, some bull-shit 17-level-side-count system, or whatever the hell some of the idiots on BJTF (like Tthree and ZMF) pretend they're doing, or anything else that's wonky. Based on my experience and talking to other card counters, kewlj's "story" adds up in my book.

    Moses on the other hand, is an unhinged lunatic who pretends he can play with little or no variance, supposedly. He "attacks" someone for losing ~$30k in a week or however long that period was, showing he really doesn't know what he's talking about. It's like talking to someone who doesn't know anything about AP -- maybe my parents ask how my trip was, I say I was up a few thousand at the start, started losing, and ended down about $5k....and they're like "OMG that's terrible! Why didn't you just quit when you were up TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS??? Wow that's just crazy you'd keep gambling after being up so much, wow, so dumb to do that!" But my parents aren't APs and they don't pretend to be APs, and over the last several years, they've finally figured out "it's not a guarantee....and if you have an advantage, may as well keep playing, whether you're up or down".

    I actually know an AP who was like that (was on a BJ team with him). At the start, everything seemed kinda normal. But a few months later on, all he wanted to do was "book a win" and also use "stop loss limits" on some stuff. Unfortunately he was the manager of the team, but once he started getting his crazy ideas going....people were like, no -- this is fucking retarded (and it was), and by golly -- the team disbanded. Anyone I've talked to since basically has the same thoughts. I wonder how his 4'th BJ team is going?
    #FreeTyde

  2. #222
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    You clearly are the biggest pussy I ever encountered in my lifetime. So you don't think people have demons? lol Try running your pathetic mouth in a casino like you do on a forum. You'll find them in record time.
    #FreeTyde

  3. #223
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post

    Moses response:

    "No. You select better games. Put yourself in a better position to win."

    Moses, that sounds nice if you can find them, but and this is important what is the reality of better games? Even greater volatility especially if you are talking about short term "in hands played" time frames..
    I play my game or I don't play. I still find about 70K hands a year.

    A review of my last few weeks of sessions; 77 wins 55 losses 38 ties/Interruptions. The represented a profit of $5,963. There was a stretch of 800 hands in a short week where I lost $1435 and went 4-8-1. But I quickly identified and corrected a flaw in my game.

    Granted, this is mostly green chips. But take figure x 4 if it were black. Making around $50k a year may not sound like much to the Pros. However, that's $250k over 5 years expense free. Key word is PLAYING. IF I were to play black chips I'd make $100K in 6 months and NOT be allowed to play. Then I'd have to travel. More income comes from sports bet than blackjack. I need to be in Nevada about 8 months out of the year. So, if KJ and RS are so certain my game is flawed, quit talking shit and play me.

    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Moses response:

    "Lots of losers talking about long term. Get game. Let the game come to you.

    The deer doesn't just jump in the truck and say "shoot me, right here."


    Moses, the game edges for the player are very small, and there is plenty of volatility associated with the game. What is it that you cannot accept that players should be immune to short term swings? In the case of of higher limit players it is only natural that swings will be more profound. We are talking about shoe games with much bigger spreads.
    I never look beyond the session I'm playing. I refuse to refer to a loss as a long run goal. If I did? I'd get soft. Plus the opponent wins by forfeit. How can one plan on long term under that scenario?

    Variance: My minimum bet results may be slightly better than most because my large bet frequency is minimal by comparison. Maybe this is why I don't have these large fluctuations. Plus my game is designed with a defensive strategy. Control the game, don't make mistakes, and don't get too far down and a comeback isn't necessary. I don't believe this variance monster follows around me from casino to casino.
    My mistakes represent far more volatility...and that's a pisser.

    I will only touch on this because I know it will drive you nuts. The percentage count is designed pull more quality hands out of less pen. Perhaps a Don S/Thorp approach as includes both philosophies.

    A column count will work with less pen but it takes more hands to get the same profit. Although the deck compositions are maximized, The frequency is less because they are also shuffled away.


    No. I don't believe you can attribute variance to losing $29k in a week. Piss poor play? Maxpens monkey wouldn't play that bad.
    Last edited by Moses; 02-14-2019 at 02:14 AM.

  4. #224
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Moses, can you accept that both of you are talking about two completely different games? This is what you wrote in post #3;


    " I know nothing about the shoe game. But, from what I've read, KJ does a better job than most when it comes to reducing variance. Still, his swings are volatile."
    I didn't start this. KJ did. But I will for damn sure finish it. All HE needs to do his step up for once in his pathetic life and show everyone he is not letting his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird ass. Sorry, that's actually Mickey's line. But a great one.

    I would think bouncing to other tables avoiding negative decks would reduce variance. No? The negative effect is around 42% wins and 49% losses. An even to TC 2 deck is more like 48.5% wins and 51.5% losses. Hell yes, everyone gets those 17s vs dealer 18s etc etc. gets those 20s only to lose to a dealer 4 hand 21. But you've got to be really fucking up to lose $29k in week. THAT is not variance. That is being a dipshit.

    You don't go from losing 58 more $500 bets than you win in a week. You don't win 220 more $500 bets in five months. KJ is bullshitting everyone. I can't/won't believe including you. And why? Because he so desperately wants to be accepted by his peers. Makes me want to puke.
    If a week is not enough then what is an acceptable amount of time to lose 29K?
    How do you stop it from happening?
    Do you use stop win/stop loss tactics?
    It would seem to me that the only way you can truly know you are stopping a losing streak is to quit playing forever.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  5. #225
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Moses, can you accept that both of you are talking about two completely different games? This is what you wrote in post #3;


    " I know nothing about the shoe game. But, from what I've read, KJ does a better job than most when it comes to reducing variance. Still, his swings are volatile."
    I didn't start this. KJ did. But I will for damn sure finish it. All HE needs to do his step up for once in his pathetic life and show everyone he is not letting his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird ass. Sorry, that's actually Mickey's line. But a great one.

    I would think bouncing to other tables avoiding negative decks would reduce variance. No? The negative effect is around 42% wins and 49% losses. An even to TC 2 deck is more like 48.5% wins and 51.5% losses. Hell yes, everyone gets those 17s vs dealer 18s etc etc. gets those 20s only to lose to a dealer 4 hand 21. But you've got to be really fucking up to lose $29k in week. THAT is not variance. That is being a dipshit.

    You don't go from losing 58 more $500 bets than you win in a week. You don't win 220 more $500 bets in five months. KJ is bullshitting everyone. I can't/won't believe including you. And why? Because he so desperately wants to be accepted by his peers. Makes me want to puke.
    KJ didn't have any peers here until you guys from BJTF showed up. He was the only BJ pro here until then.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  6. #226
    RS. What is with the video for the 3rd time? Okay, I get it. You don't like me. Now let's all have a big cry over that. Boo fucking whoo. But you were a dealer. I can't believe you never saw people looking for trouble who didn't find it eventually. This isn't Bingo in the basement of a church. My saying is "one doesn't have to look for trouble, it comes soon enough." Now maybe it's not that way where you reside. But if you are not ready in this jungle the elements will eat you alive.
    Last edited by Moses; 02-14-2019 at 02:58 AM.

  7. #227
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    If a week is not enough then what is an acceptable amount of time to lose 29K? .
    Good questions Mickey: I went back 3 years and didn't have a loss of $3k. Had some $5k wins though. Granted, I'm playing green chips. But even if they were black I wouldn't have had a $10k losing week.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    How do you stop it from happening? .
    For me. It's game selection. I play my game or I don't play at all. I still get in 20 sessions a week easily which works out to around 70k hands per year.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Do you use stop win/stop loss tactics?.
    Yes, it's based on casino tolerance rather than my comfort level. I can PM you this info if you're interested. For instance, if you were the house against me. We could play all day because I know you wouldn't ban me.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    It would seem to me that the only way you can truly know you are stopping a losing streak is to quit playing forever.
    LOL. Yes, It would certainly seem that way. I'm always working to improve my game. For instance, Bosox was adamant about Insurance. It was not a vital part of my game. However, his insistence forced me to take a 2nd look. Then, I built my entire game around insurance. Well, I didn't need to go to that extreme because my large bets are far less frequent than in his game. So I met in the middle so to speak. Thus I make more money. Thanks Bosox.

    Another example 10vs10 is a real pisser with a large bet out. I talked to Freighter to see what he was doing. I didn't do exactly what he does but the conversation sparked in my brain that improved my percentage greatly on that hand.

    The tools today work greatly to our advantage to improve ones game. But people don't use them for the most part. I'm an absolute nut about practicing. Thus not too much surprises or shakes me in a casino. My saying is "if you can't be Verite in the quiet of your own home. How if the blue fuck do you plan to win in the hustle and bustle of a casino"?
    Last edited by Moses; 02-14-2019 at 02:50 AM.

  8. #228
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Good questions Mickey: I went back 3 years and didn't have a loss of $3k. Had some $5k wins though. Granted, I'm playing green chips. But even if they were black I wouldn't have had a $10k losing week.

    For me. It's game selection. I play my game or I don't play at all. I still get in 20 sessions a week easily which works out to around 70k hands per year.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Do you use stop win/stop loss tactics?.
    Yes, it's based on casino tolerance rather than my comfort level. I can PM you this info if you're interested. For instance, if you were the house against me. We could play all day because I know you wouldn't ban me.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    It would seem to me that the only way you can truly know you are stopping a losing streak is to quit playing forever.
    LOL. Yes, It would certainly seem that way. I'm always working to improve my game. For instance, Bosox was adamant about Insurance. It was not a vital part of my game. However, his insistence forced me to take a 2nd look. Then, I built my entire game around insurance. Well, I didn't need to go to that extreme because my large bets are far less frequent than in his game. So I met in the middle so to speak. Thus I make more money. Thanks Bosox.

    Another example 10vs10 is a real pisser with a large bet out. I talked to Freighter to see what he was doing. I didn't do exactly what he does but the conversation sparked in my brain that improved my percentage greatly on that hand.

    The tools today work greatly to our advantage to improve ones game. But people don't use them for the most part. I'm an absolute nut about practicing. Thus not too much surprises or shakes me in a casino. My saying is "if you can't be Verite in the quiet of your own home. How if the blue fuck do you plan to win in the hustle and bustle of a casino"?
    You didn't give a time frame where a 29K losing streak is acceptable. And it looks like you are saying that if you select the right game you won't have a bad losing streak. If that's the case you should be betting 29K a hand.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #229
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    RS. What is with the video for the 3rd time? Okay, I get it. You don't like me. Now let's all have a big cry over that. Boo fucking whoo. But you were a dealer. I can't believe you never saw people looking for trouble who didn't find it eventually. This isn't Bingo in the basement of a church. My saying is "one doesn't have to look for trouble, it comes soon enough." Now maybe it's not that way where you reside. But if you are not ready in this jungle the elements will eat you alive.
    Give it a rest already. What are you rambling on about?
    #FreeTyde

  10. #230
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    RS. What is with the video for the 3rd time? Okay, I get it. You don't like me. Now let's all have a big cry over that. Boo fucking whoo. But you were a dealer. I can't believe you never saw people looking for trouble who didn't find it eventually. This isn't Bingo in the basement of a church. My saying is "one doesn't have to look for trouble, it comes soon enough." Now maybe it's not that way where you reside. But if you are not ready in this jungle the elements will eat you alive.
    Give it a rest already. What are you rambling on about?
    Too many times talking to that burning bush maybe?

  11. #231
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    You didn't give a time frame where a 29K losing streak is acceptable.
    Just for the record, I blew more than that gambling on -EV games in three days in Monti Carlo. Combine that with the cost of staying and having most of our meals at the Metropole hotel, -EV begins the moment you pull up and step on the sidewalk. Yet, if you want to get the feeling of what it’s like to be treated like royalty in a royalty setting, it’s a must visit. (never went back)

    Kewlj, you and your minions are complete mental frauds. I'm thinking Dan should realize by now, how you by yourself could destroy a forum. Of course, how many more minions you could drag here and have personal conversations with is unknown.

  12. #232
    I suppose, as the "sports guy," it's my fiduciary duty to make a comment here, so I will.

    I have a real difficult time when a nonchalant comment is made like "sports betting providing more income than blackjack" or something in that neighborhood. There seems to be some general public myth that doing some conscientious data mining and trend analysis can yield a modest but consistent profit across many sports consistently for years.

    That is a myth. It's more likely true that absolutely religious numbers monitoring and arbitrage can yield profits, but even that is rare, and it requires 24/7 monitoring of multiple shops and offshores, using every tool at one's disposal.

    There are folks who have done rigorous, massive data mining for 20 years who have probability training, programming training, and access to the best savants in the business. Very few win at one sport, much less across multiple sports for multiple years. Sports gambling is not some throwaway hobby that will yield consistent positive results if you halfway know what you're doing.

    Having said that, it's possible somebody simply consults a person or team of people and uses their plays. In my admittedly dated and out-of-left-field estimate, I think roughly a hundred individuals or teams of individuals in this country can actually win long term at sports betting. Anyone who says they can do that may indeed be one of those hundred or so. And sometimes somebody or some team pops up out of nowhere (like a Chinese team of programmers going after college hoop totals a couple of years ago), and people plug into them and piggyback because all security has leaks, and the sports books go into temporary shock, but those events are quite rare.

    Sports betting is not like blackjack card counting. There is no formula for success. I think suggesting there is does people a disservice, especially now that legalization is here.

    If you'll notice, I tried to help Argentino when he was handicapping here. I did not say one negative thing, and I strongly suggested he can the parlays. I realize that seemed pretty weird. It's my rule. I try to help everybody against casinos vis-à-vis sports betting. If someone can do it, short or long term, more power to them. So I'm not here to get into some ego-driven pissing contest. It just must be said that winning across multiple sports long term is exceedingly difficult -- I really do not even try to do it. Roughly 80% or more of what I wager is college football, and that's counting futures in other sports. So I ask that people turn a jaded eye to throwaway lines regarding winning at sports as if it's a acquirable skill.

  13. #233
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    I look at it this way....I read what people write and decide for myself what I think of them. If it all adds up, then it all adds up. Oftentimes though, that's not the case.

    For example, if you have someone talking about different AP plays they've been on....but then later on, they're talking about dice-influencing (which in it of itself I wouldn't say makes someone non-AP). The person doesn't know what their EV is, or they may say some dumb shit about how they martingale their bets or press, or talk about karma or the vibe of the table, or some other nonsense. At that point, you can tell the person is full of shit in one way or another, because an actual AP wouldn't be doing dumb shit like that. And, of course, this guy has no concept of EV, variance, etc. and can't name any stats about his game.

    Compare that to the guy who may also claim to be a dice-influencer, but he can say "Over XXX in-casino rolls, these are the probabilities for each dice roll (2, 3, 4...12). The bets I make are X, Y, and/or Z [depending on point]. For every 100 throws, my EV is $XYZ and my standard deviation is $ABC." Now, he may not be successful, but you can at least tell he has his shit together because he knows what's important and going about it the proper way. Obviously looking at a few posts it may be difficult to gauge, but when you can read hundreds or thousands of someone's posts, then it paints a clearer picture.

    Look at Rob Stringer for example. All of his posts add up -- I mean, they're all absolutely retarded, but they're consistently retarded. He claims he was an AP and lost a million dollars. His main game was, supposedly, the triple payouts on quad 7's at the Tropicana Express in Laughlin at the $0.50, $1, and $2 denom (why the fuck would you play 50c or $1 when you can play $2?). After that he claims to have won a million bucks using his systems....yet, he can't name a single damn thing about them. Someone who had their shit together would be able to say, "There's a X% chance I have a winning session, Y% chance I have a losing session. My average session win is $Z. Etc..." among a bunch of other stuff. Plus, if you had a winning system like that, any normal person would play it for AT LEAST 6 months non-stop, make a few million, then retire...instead he makes a million over 10 years, only playing on weekends? Right.


    Now look at kewlj. I don't know if he's doing the things he's saying he's doing. Maybe he's an 85 year old Russian living in Siberia or some shit and it's all completely made up. I've never played near him nor met him (AFAIK), and I have no way to verify he's playing the way he's playing. But, everything he says actually adds up. The swings he talks about are real. He's not claiming a million dollar a year profit. He's not saying he plays with nearly no variance, some crazy 5% edge on card counting, some bull-shit 17-level-side-count system, or whatever the hell some of the idiots on BJTF (like Tthree and ZMF) pretend they're doing, or anything else that's wonky. Based on my experience and talking to other card counters, kewlj's "story" adds up in my book.

    Moses on the other hand, is an unhinged lunatic who pretends he can play with little or no variance, supposedly. He "attacks" someone for losing ~$30k in a week or however long that period was, showing he really doesn't know what he's talking about. It's like talking to someone who doesn't know anything about AP -- maybe my parents ask how my trip was, I say I was up a few thousand at the start, started losing, and ended down about $5k....and they're like "OMG that's terrible! Why didn't you just quit when you were up TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS??? Wow that's just crazy you'd keep gambling after being up so much, wow, so dumb to do that!" But my parents aren't APs and they don't pretend to be APs, and over the last several years, they've finally figured out "it's not a guarantee....and if you have an advantage, may as well keep playing, whether you're up or down".

    I actually know an AP who was like that (was on a BJ team with him). At the start, everything seemed kinda normal. But a few months later on, all he wanted to do was "book a win" and also use "stop loss limits" on some stuff. Unfortunately he was the manager of the team, but once he started getting his crazy ideas going....people were like, no -- this is fucking retarded (and it was), and by golly -- the team disbanded. Anyone I've talked to since basically has the same thoughts. I wonder how his 4'th BJ team is going?
    This was a wonderful post RS_. Well thought out and really covers the state of affairs. You provide sound reasons for every sound conclusion.

  14. #234
    Excellent post redietz. I’ve just started getting into sports betting since it’s become legal in my area. I agree with everything you’ve said. I’ve bought some sports betting books and read many articles on the internet on sports betting. And I joined The Action Network, which didn’t cost much and has been interesting. With all this information, I’ve lost money, although not much, in my first six months of trying this.

    However, I did well with the Super Bowl but only because I took high probability bets, with low returns. I won all of them, but didn’t make much but it was a good exercise. The four prop bets I bet on were: 1) Tom Brady not scoring on a rushing Td, 2) no defensive player getting two interceptions, 3) no safety, 4) no team scoring 4 consecutive times in a row. All of them paid off, which is what I expected. I put $100 on each one and won something like $50, which I thought was a pretty good return for high probability events occurring.

    I’m sure Vegas sets the odds on these bet based on the probability of them occurring so in the long run when I lose one, I know I’ll lose a lot.

    Question: This seems like a good strategy for sports betting...bet on high probability events, with low returns. For example, money line bets on college home football teams that are favored by three tds. I’m sure this has been tried before and it probably fails long term.

    What’s your thought on this strategy?

  15. #235
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Kewlj, you and your minions are complete mental frauds. I'm thinking Dan should realize by now, how you by yourself could destroy a forum. Of course, how many more minions you could drag here and have personal conversations with is unknown.
    I have never recommended anyone come to this forum. I would not feel comfortable recommending this forum in it's current shit-hole, hate induced condition. The closest I got was asking Richard Munchkin to visit and comment on a specific topic, tracking multiple tables. I was not surprised when munchkin took a look at this forum and decided he wanted no part of it.

    While I have never recommended nor encouraged anyone to come to this forum, I suspect that fact that I participate here has influenced a few legitimate players to visit. Unfortunately most aren't here long and are quickly driven away once they experience what this site is.

    And on the flip side, There are people that have a rather strong dislike for me, and I know for a fact, some of them have shown up here because I am here, so it has worked both ways. Unfortunately hate being such a strong emotion, the haters end up staying around.

  16. #236
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    This was a wonderful post RS_. Well thought out and really covers the state of affairs. You provide sound reasons for every sound conclusion.
    Compliments like this coming from such an ass-hole like you mean nothing. A person with such mental and security problems like yourself only confirm your opinions should be considered worthless. I'm from the old school, and have a problem trusting the opinions of a person uncertain of their own gender.

  17. #237
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I have never recommended anyone come to this forum. I would not feel comfortable recommending this forum in it's current shit-hole, hate induced condition. The closest I got was asking Richard Munchkin to visit and comment on a specific topic, tracking multiple tables. I was not surprised when munchkin took a look at this forum and decided he wanted no part of it.

    While I have never recommended nor encouraged anyone to come to this forum, I suspect that fact that I participate here has influenced a few legitimate players to visit. Unfortunately most aren't here long and are quickly driven away once they experience what this site is.

    And on the flip side, There are people that have a rather strong dislike for me, and I know for a fact, some of them have shown up here because I am here, so it has worked both ways. Unfortunately hate being such a strong emotion, the haters end up staying around.
    This whole post is just another confirmation of how far you're willing to go with bullshit. You're the biggest fraud on here and can't take being called out on it. Did you give the link to Coach to look up for himself what you claim you found on Rob? No, of course not cause you're a bullshitting fraud.

    Did you tell Dan to publish Coach's PM's so you could live up to your promise and leave here. No, of course not, you're a fucking fraud.

    It's obvious why you get thrown out of forums. You're a fucking fraud, bullshitting, homo. Maybe you'll choke on a big load and really kick the bucket, not like your fraud claim of dying in the past. Shut the fuck up with your fantasy gambling escapades.

  18. #238
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    I'm from the old school, and have a problem trusting the opinions of a person uncertain of their own gender.
    I am quite certain of my gender. I am a gay man, just like millions before me, including some of the top men in military, science, mathematics, history and yes, even the arts.

    You just proved what a homophobic asshole you are. Using a term like "old school" doesn't make bigotry against people that are different than you, whether race, religion nationality, gender, sexual preference acceptable. You are basically Hitler trying to justify your hate and bigotry.

  19. #239
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You are basically Hitler trying to justify your hate and bigotry.
    Wish I was ... You would have been long gone by now.

  20. #240
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    You didn't give a time frame where a 29K losing streak is acceptable. And it looks like you are saying that if you select the right game you won't have a bad losing streak. If that's the case you should be betting 29K a hand.
    I never in my life heard of anyone I know lose $29K in a week in any endeavor. Let alone blackjack. I learned long ago not to participate in a bad game. I lost $20K on Black Monday after saving my first $100k from nothing. THAT was very difficult to take. I remember standing at a pay phone trying to sell on Friday and the market closed before I could do it. Ten minutes away from ducking what took me at least a year to save. Those were hard earned dollars. I'm sure if you worked in those mines in Colorado, you know all about hard earned dollars.

    But in blackjack, it's one loss after another after another. Pretty soon the average person begins to chase. Only it's after a few hands for most. I see it everyday. Some guy drives in from Klamath Falls with HiLO and an aggressive bet spread. HE's broke by noon. I'm thinking, you drove all way and that's all you brought with you? No money management skills whatsoever.

    Now imagine losing 58 more large bets hands of $500 than you lose in just 5 days. For my game, I'm surprised if I make 100 large bets in a week. But KJ speaks to a stair step approach so he is even losing more hands than that....and he avoids the negative decks which pull down the minus win/loss percentage considerably. To suggest that any normal person could bend over and take it that many times is beyond a stretch of the wildest imagination. Again, those are supposed to be winnable hands. No?

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