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  1. #281
    KewlJ wrote:

    "So some of you may remember back in September when I shared that I dad hit the million dollar milestone (year15) as far as blackjack results. A day or two after that was my last all-time high (ATH), as the following week, I experienced my work week of my blackjack career dropping 29k, including not one but two, five figure losing days (which are rare for me) in the same week. You might remember some of the goofy comments about how I should used some sort of 'stop limit' (voodoo concept).

    So anyway, I spent the last almost 4 months bouncing around between 20-30k below that last ATH. So a pretty nice little run over the past couple week and I am once again at a new ATH."

    Something been nagging at me for a long time now KJ, and I should have asked you this sooner. Periodically you have mentioned in the past that you wish that others would be more open disclosing their annual results why is that, and why do you do it yourself?

    In Don S book, Chapter one Back Counting the shoe game Don describes a day in the life of a tablehopper, where on that day Don takes it on the chin. Two lines always stood out in my mind at the end of the chapter.

    "[Editor's note: As Don said, don't shed any tears for him. We understand he got the 32 units back...and a few more!]"

    Blackjack enthusiast understand early on that there is no public glory to be had as it would be counterproductive to the profession. Recognition among piers is the best that is possible, and no better way to accomplish that is by helping others with their game, but, be quiet about your own.
    Last edited by BoSox; 02-15-2019 at 05:06 AM.

  2. #282
    Just looking to point out the type of idiots that are on this site. First of all Coach didn't say he's not willing to do the research. He just wants the same site KJ used to locate the same results. Why not just post the site name on the forum so everyone could have a look if they want. There are hundreds of these sites on the internet I'm sure with different results from different search engines. KJ won't post it cause he never did a search and he's a fucking phony fraud. Yet Mickey wants to twist the request of getting to the same site as not doing the foot work. Mickey continues to prove his lack of reading comprehension. So the idiot makes this post below.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Do you own work you fucking punk. You two cocksuckers sat idly by while Argentino made one outrageous claim after another. Not one peep from you two morons. Do your own fucking research, assclown.
    Then jbjb another bullshit alleged AP click member pops in with his Einstein moment and support, with this quote below. As if whatever the toilet tissue cost of paying for it as any impact on doing it. And boy he sounds pissed ... lol

    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    PAY FOR THE SHIT YOURSELF YOU GOD DAMN IDIOT!!!!
    Then of course Mickey can't resist after the asshole above's post and follows up with another one of his repeated posts to make sure everyone don't miss their faulty demands.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I want it posted here and I want you to get off your lazy stinkin' ass and post it, bitch. For once in your life do something for yourself instead of demanding everyone else do it for you, welfare queen.
    Now Axel pops in and makes the same exact request Coach has been making.

    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    [B]JK, fuck coach(metaphorically that is). I would like to know what site you used to find that information. I'm not looking for any gotcha moments pertaining to you. I'm interested in reading exactly what it says about him. Feel free to PM me the sites name. Perhaps Rob will even allow the information to be posted here. If its not true, he has nothing to worry about.
    Why is it okay for AP Axel to make the same exact request as Coach yet no push back from the same AP click members above? Why is that? Maybe because Mickey posted this statement below about Axel? Then you followed up with the next post below it explaining how you just make shit up, shortly after you kissed and made-up. Obviously, to protect the AP click and myth. jbjb, Axel don't have to do his own research? You fucking fraud...

    Mickey Quotes :

    Fuck off candy ass bitch. Kj is right. I've seen you're punk shrimp ass. Five nothin'. A hundred nothin'. Just the right height to suck Shack's dick. Your hero is putting out misleading information on the AGS 5K's too. Now let's talk about how all you do is run multiple cards on freeplay to make a living. Scumbag bullshit. You're not a gambler. You're a fucking cheater. You work skippers too. That is, until you got your punk asses busted. You're a disgrace to the profession.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
    I said some things I shouldn't have. I have no clue if Axel runs multiple cards. I just threw it in there for effect. Just like I did the skippers.



    Mickey, you're one of the biggest bullshitting assholes on here. For the record you might be a street tough guy, but you're one dumb fuck. Why should anyone respect what you say? Because you say so?

    Take a walk you fucking 2-bit lying idiot.
    Last edited by blackhole; 02-15-2019 at 07:28 AM.

  3. #283
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Just looking to point out the type of idiots that are on this site. First of all Coach didn't say he's not willing to do the research. He just wants the same site KJ used to locate the same results. Why not just post the site name on the forum so everyone could have a look if they want. There are hundreds of these sites on the internet I'm sure with different results from different search engines. KJ won't post it cause he never did a search and he's a fucking phony fraud. Yet Mickey wants to twist the request of getting to the same site as not doing the foot work. Mickey continues to prove his lack of reading comprehension. So the idiot makes this post below.



    Then jbjb another bullshit alleged AP click member pops in with his Einstein moment and support, with this quote below. As if whatever the toilet tissue cost of paying for it as any impact on doing it. And boy he sounds pissed ... lol



    Then of course Mickey can't resist after the asshole above's post and follows up with another one of his repeated posts to make sure everyone don't miss their faulty demands.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I want it posted here and I want you to get off your lazy stinkin' ass and post it, bitch. For once in your life do something for yourself instead of demanding everyone else do it for you, welfare queen.
    Now Axel pops in and makes the same exact request Coach has been making.

    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    [B]JK, fuck coach(metaphorically that is). I would like to know what site you used to find that information. I'm not looking for any gotcha moments pertaining to you. I'm interested in reading exactly what it says about him. Feel free to PM me the sites name. Perhaps Rob will even allow the information to be posted here. If its not true, he has nothing to worry about.
    Why is it okay for AP Axel to make the same exact request as Coach yet no push back from the same AP click members above? Why is that? Maybe because Mickey posted this statement below about Axel? Then you followed up with the next post below it explaining how you just make shit up, shortly after you kissed and made-up. Obviously, to protect the AP click and myth. jbjb, Axel don't have to do his own research? You fucking fraud...

    Mickey Quotes :

    Fuck off candy ass bitch. Kj is right. I've seen you're punk shrimp ass. Five nothin'. A hundred nothin'. Just the right height to suck Shack's dick. Your hero is putting out misleading information on the AGS 5K's too. Now let's talk about how all you do is run multiple cards on freeplay to make a living. Scumbag bullshit. You're not a gambler. You're a fucking cheater. You work skippers too. That is, until you got your punk asses busted. You're a disgrace to the profession.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
    I said some things I shouldn't have. I have no clue if Axel runs multiple cards. I just threw it in there for effect. Just like I did the skippers.



    Mickey, you're one of the biggest bullshitting assholes on here. For the record you might be a street tough guy, but you're one dumb fuck. Why should anyone respect what you say? Because you say so?

    Take a walk you fucking 2-bit lying idiot.
    Buttholebitch, your pussy stinks. Take a bath, bitch. Still crying because no one will give you your bottle. WAAAAAA!!!! WAAAAAAA!!!! Do your own research, punk. NO one around here owes you anything.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #284
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Then jbjb another bullshit alleged AP.
    Please, and I mean PLEASE call up every single casino on this planet along with OSN and plead with them that I'm a "bullshit alleged AP" and they (the casinos and OSN) got it wrong. I'm begging you. Tell them I'm no threat at all!!! Please...PLEASE....PLEASE!!!!

    Of course you won't because you know damn well I'm telling the truth about my AP activities.

  5. #285
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Then jbjb another bullshit alleged AP.
    Please, and I mean PLEASE call up every single casino on this planet along with OSN and plead with them that I'm a "bullshit alleged AP" and they (the casinos and OSN) got it wrong. I'm begging you. Tell them I'm no threat at all!!! Please...PLEASE....PLEASE!!!!

    Of course you won't because you know damn well I'm telling the truth about my AP activities.
    This is what I mean by how far bullshit alleged AP's are willing to go. You and everyone else Know that I don't have a clue who you are except from the bullshit you write here. Yet, you want me to call every casino on this planet and OSN and discuss you.

    I guess this is your way of convincing anyone that reads your post you're the real deal. Usually when phony requests like yours show up, the facts usually mean the complete opposite.

    You just might be dumber than Mickey.

  6. #286
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Buttholebitch, your pussy stinks. Take a bath, bitch. Still crying because no one will give you your bottle. WAAAAAA!!!! WAAAAAAA!!!! Do your own research, punk. NO one around here owes you anything.
    You can't make this shit up. How fucking dumb is this response? A sign of a empty head.

  7. #287
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Then jbjb another bullshit alleged AP.
    Please, and I mean PLEASE call up every single casino on this planet along with OSN and plead with them that I'm a "bullshit alleged AP" and they (the casinos and OSN) got it wrong. I'm begging you. Tell them I'm no threat at all!!! Please...PLEASE....PLEASE!!!!

    Of course you won't because you know damn well I'm telling the truth about my AP activities.
    This is what I mean by how far bullshit alleged AP's are willing to go. You and everyone else Know that I don't have a clue who you are except from the bullshit you write here. Yet, you want me to call every casino on this planet and OSN and discuss you.

    I guess this is your way of convincing anyone that reads your post you're the real deal. Usually when phony requests like yours show up, the facts usually mean the complete opposite.

    You just might be dumber than Mickey.
    Does my identity matter? According to you, no. So that means all of us in OSN are "bullshit alleged AP's." Therefore, that site and all of the casinos are wrong. Call them and tell them this so casinos will unbarr all of us and OSN with delete its site and all info in it.

    Now quit making "bullshit excuses" and do it!! The only dumb one here is you and your "alleged" $100,000 tournament win. If anything, you're the "bullshit artist."

  8. #288
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    The only dumb one here is you and your "alleged" $100,000 tournament win. If anything, you're the "bullshit artist."
    117K idiot. Get the facts correct.

  9. #289
    Gentlemen,

    My brother-in-law is a retired private investigator. He ran a franchise system of shops in New Mexico, including Albuquerque. He is the author of "Serious Surveillance for the Private Investigator." If you really want to check up on someone, I suggest hiring a private investigator, as they will have access to all of the best background sites, and it would be cheaper than subscribing to all of them.

    The usual sites include checkmate.com, truthfinder.com, and idtrue.com. They are going to cost you maybe $35-$50 per person for a crude summary. Many of the sites sign you up for an monthly fee, and you have to go through the hassle of extricating yourself from the billing.

    The summaries often have some inaccuracies. For example, if you plug me in on one site, you will get descriptions conflated with my father, who had the same name. While I appreciate being listed as having owned property I did not own, I also do not appreciate being listed as 86 years old. I wind up with assets and debts that are his, and he died 15 years ago. People do often have more than one social security number in real life, which really messes up the algorithms.

    Despite Argentino's comments in old posts, people can scrub themselves, which has some real effects. Where these sites are most valuable, in my opinion, is that they provide, for the most part, accurate listings of siblings and related people. Those people can be contacted or interviewed regarding the actual target, and more will be learned from those interviews than what one reads from potentially flawed information summaries.

    It also occurred to me that one reason you cannot publicly post or use these summaries for credit decisions is that things like having your record purged of a legal snafu may not register or catch up in real time with the expungement. So a legally expunged record may show up as not expunged. While it's useful for others to know about these things, it defeats the purpose of the expungement. The expungements are legal and supposed to be opaque.
    Last edited by redietz; 02-15-2019 at 09:33 AM.

  10. #290
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    The usual sites include checkmate.com, truthfinder.com, and idtrue.com. They are going to cost you maybe $35-$50 per person for a crude summary. Many of the sites sign you up for an monthly fee, and you have to go through the hassle of extricating yourself from the billing.
    I'm interested in the site that tewlj and a number of others used, the site where they paid $3.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    This Rob Singer character and his dispicable behavior and comments lead a number of us to pay the $3 and look into who he really is.
    Do you know which site that is?

  11. #291
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Buttholebitch, your pussy stinks. Take a bath, bitch.
    Whoa, Mickey. Damn, I thought I was in the s-book. lol Now, KJ claims he knows me through other sources. Like there is some kind of behind the scenes scheme going on I don't know about. Well, I've only met two AP's in person and one did ask to take a picture of me and my lady.

    Thanks Mickster. You're a classic, Sir. If you don't mind, these will be the words I will be conveying to them next time we meet. With all due respect, these are the type of problems that occur when people speak in terms of generalities or lie.
    Last edited by Moses; 02-15-2019 at 10:01 AM.

  12. #292
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    My brother-in-law is a retired private investigator..
    Can he run down some forum ass holes for me?

  13. #293
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I am not providing coach belly anything. Why can't he do his own research as a number of us here have.
    JK, fuck coach(metaphorically that is). I would like to know what site you used to find that information. I'm not looking for any gotcha moments pertaining to you. I'm interested in reading exactly what it says about him. Feel free to PM me the sites name. Perhaps Rob will even allow the information to be posted here. If its not true, he has nothing to worry about.
    Actually I think Axel slipped this request in putting the screws to KJ from the back door. He wanted to come off just as a curious AP. I don't think he's a fan of KJ and also knows KJ is a fraud and full of shit.

    Regardless, right or wrong, crickets from the phony fraud KJ.

  14. #294
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    My brother-in-law is a retired private investigator..
    Can he run down some forum ass holes for me?
    These are the posts that are priceless. They mostly come from Moses. I couldn’t stop laughing when I saw this one.

  15. #295
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    These are the posts that are priceless. They mostly come from Moses. I couldn’t stop laughing when I saw this one.
    Your just another priceless AP nut job.

  16. #296
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Buttholebitch, your pussy stinks. Take a bath, bitch.
    Whoa, Mickey. Damn, I thought I was in the s-book.
    No your not in a sports book. That's a fucking empty head idiots response to a post loaded with questions for him when he knows he's cornered and made a fool of.

  17. #297
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    These are the posts that are priceless. They mostly come from Moses. I couldn’t stop laughing when I saw this one.
    Your just another priceless AP nut job.
    Yeah, you’re probably right. But it’s a fun adventure, and I get to correspond with witty people like you on forums, so I can’t complain.

  18. #298
    BlackHole. I certainly hope you don't think anything I said as a derogatory remark towards you. It may not be real good. But at least it's real. I can deal with real. IMO, you keep it real, Sir.

    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post

    Actually I think Axel slipped this request in putting the screws to KJ from the back door. He wanted to come off just as a curious AP. I don't think he's a fan of KJ and also knows KJ is a fraud and full of shit.

    Regardless, right or wrong, crickets from the phony fraud KJ.
    For instance. I'm having lunch with my 82 year young friend Lou the other day. Sometimes he says things a little too real and a little to loud.

    He loves seafood. Blue Mussels is his favorite. So he's eating way more than he should. He says "damn, these Blue Mussels are giving me the backdoor trots." I ask, "Lou, what in the world is a backdoor trot"? He stands up replies so everyone around can hear "I have to trot off to the bathroom because this whole damn buffet is about to shoot out my backdoor."

    To paraphrase. "You can't make this shit up."

    BTW, he gets a kick out of your posts. Just about every time I see him, he asks, "so what did Blackhole say today"?
    Last edited by Moses; 02-15-2019 at 11:50 AM.

  19. #299
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Buttholebitch, your pussy stinks. Take a bath, bitch.
    Whoa, Mickey. Damn, I thought I was in the s-book.
    No your not in a sports book. That's a fucking empty head idiots response to a post loaded with questions for him when he knows he's cornered and made a fool of.[/QUOTE]

    Scumbag, you don't deserve any consideration from me. Fuck you and fuck your questions. You've already proven you are too stupid to learn anything. You are just a retard that bitches and complains every post. Then you think someone is supposed to answer your questions. I told you a long time ago, bitch, fuck you, don't ask me anything. You won't get any answers from me. You did that to yourself, buttfuck.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  20. #300
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Scumbag, you don't deserve any consideration from me. Fuck you and fuck your questions. You've already proven you are too stupid to learn anything. You are just a retard that bitches and complains every post. Then you think someone is supposed to answer your questions. I told you a long time ago, bitch, fuck you, don't ask me anything. You won't get any answers from me. You did that to yourself, buttfuck.
    What the fuck are you talking about here? Who the hell is asking for any consideration from you? You know I think you’re an empty head 2-bit idiot. Why would I want anything from you, let alone consideration?

    The questions you were asked have nothing to do with me. They have to do with explaining to the forum your contradicting lies.

    I guess using me for an excuse for not having to answer your contradicting twisted stupidity comments is your only way out. This is the type of approach you always use when your empty head can’t think any further than what you’re presently thinking. Whenever your asked to clarify something, you go off on some stupid cursing rant followed by some unrelated drivel. Just like your quoted post above.

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