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    [QUOTE=Bob21;83466]
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Although in your demented mind there was and is nothing to worry about anyway as no casino personnel was and are reading that sickly run board anyway.
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Bosox, I never said you should never worry about casinos reading these forums. I actually do worry some, and believe it or not, am careful on what I revel on these forums. I don’t revel specifics and when something unique happens, I wait to post it and change the facts slightly.

    I know some pit boss who participates on these forums. They mostly participate to troll. They think it’s funny. Since many APs are so serious and paranoid, they are easy to rattle..
    IF you are on a comfortable basis with a pit boss, I would hope you could encourage them to post. Personally, I do not think there needs to be an adversarial relationship between player and pit boss. They have a job to do and we should respect that. We have a job we like to do. If one hand washes the other their is no need for the animosity.

    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    For the most part, the rank and file casino employees don’t make that much. They have other things to do with their life. They aren’t coming on these forums trying to learn the latest AP move.

    As far as kJ, I don’t see a problem doing what he does, meaning sharing general information about his experiences. You do. That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. Vegas casinos know there are a lot of people like kJ out there. I’ve read Kj’s posts from a casino’s viewpoint and have never seen anything that would help me identify a counter. It’s all very general information. ..
    There was a line from Jim Garrison, in the movie JFK. "People only know what they are told." I would add "money is in the eyes of others."

    There was nice lady I was playing the other day. I see her and her husband at the store etc etc. I made what seemed to be a lot of money to her. But most AP "pros" would consider it peanuts. She said "wow, I wish I could make that much in a 1/2 hour. It takes me a week." Now, what she doesn't see are the times I get my ass handed to me. Game of people played with cards. I always tip. Win or lose. It's just something I factor in to my cost of doing business.

    Sometimes I will stand from behind and watch to get a dealers tendencies. A couple of minutes feels like a couple of hours in that situation. Plus if the person playing is a counter. I'm probably making them nervous as well. I don't see anything positive in attaching a $$$$ to playing experiences in blackjack.

    Plus it pisses Mr. Blackhole off something fierce. And I don't blame him.

    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Yes, Zee is more specific with his information and I know people have advised him not to be, but it hasn’t really hurt him. I agree with Zee in that he would have been banned and databased eventually playing rated or unrated in his local area. He played too long, too often and in too few casinos for this not to happen. The surprising thing is that it didn’t happen sooner. And as he says often, it hasn’t hurt him when he travels, even when he plays at sister properties. I know this burns people up when he says this, I believe him since it agrees with my experiences.
    Simply put. Zee craps in his own Corn Flakes.

    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Btw, I get much more information from the GWAE podcasts on how casino thinks than on these forums. Mutchkin has had some excellent surveillance people on. One was Willy (I think that’s his name) and he’s from Australia. Btw, he says some of the casino staff are APs on the side.
    I might visit with a pit boss when I see them in a sportsbook. The ones I've talked to are pretty sharp guys and have been around the block a time or two. They know quite a bit about the game of blackjack, although from a different perspective. There is one ole gent that I offered a seat in a packed s-book. Very funny guy. Good handicapper. Enjoyable game. But when it's back to the tables? He hates me.

    Why? Because of what the notes say in the damn box. I haven't played that way in nearly a decade after I was told the do's and don'ts from a casino manager after I got the boot. That particular casino no longer offers blackjack. But the damage was done on one fateful day and still remains years later.
    Last edited by Moses; 02-16-2019 at 01:03 PM.

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