Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
Originally Posted by SplitFaceDisaster View Post
The thing I don`t understand about the charges against him is that he said he was using a legal alias. That detail wasn`t in the opening post, but in one of the responses to someone asking questions about exactly what happened. So if he got the player`s card with a legal alias, isn`t it upon the casino at that point to figure out that the person is someone they`ve backed off before? I just don`t see how accepting comps can be considered stealing if you`re using a legal alias. KJ you seem to know more about it than what was in that thread, so I guess someone else told you more about it. If that`s the case, please let us know what happens with it. Apparently when it comes to high stakes play, the cat and mouse game turns way more dangerous. That being said, I don`t know of any other casino bringing charges against an AP quite like this. I`m no legal expert, but I think he`ll be able to get out of it seeing as how it seems that he had to have been detained against his will.
I did some research on identity theft and now see why SmallCapGrowth is in some serious trouble.

http://https://www.criminaldefensela...tity-theft.htm

Casinos have lawyers too and know the law. They aren't as dumb (at least at the top) as some believe. The way I see it the problem SCG has is he used someone else's ID to come back into the casino after he was banned. He did this to deceive the casino so he could take money from them. His trouble appears to be that he won a massive amount of money ($200,000) using false ID and now the casino wants their money back. The reason it's become a felony is probably due to the amount of money the casino claimes he took from them using a false ID.

It is not the casino's (or any other business) resonsibility to make sure you are who you claim you are. It's a person's resonsibility to show a business their valid ID. For example, when a business asks you for ID when you use your credit card, you have to show them legal ID. You can opt to not show them your ID, but then they won't let you use your credit card in their business. Playing under someone else's player's card is not the same as giving false ID. These are two totally different things.

I know someone who was backed off and barred from some casinos and he looked into using a false ID to get back in. After he spent sometime looking into it, he decieded to not go down that road. He was surprised at high severe the pentalites could be if the casinos caught him and decided to throw the book at him.

As far as SCG being illegally detained, I don't know what all happened, but I know a casino (or any business) has the right to detain someone if they suspect a crime was being committed. Being back roomed for indentity theft is very different from being back roomed for card counting. One is illegal, the other is not. I expect the casinos were in their rights to detain him if that's what occurred.

I obviously don't know everything about this case, but I expect the casinos consulted their lawyers before they did what they did. It sounds like SCG was going to this casino for a while with a false ID since he won $200,000. The casino was probably ready for him that day when they caught him and threw the book at him.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
You have some good points here, like about how detaining him could be justified. However, what I was saying was that since he said "legal alias", I figured that meant he had gone through some sort of legal name change and signed up with a player`s card with that name. Anyway, who knows, we don`t know all the details so all of us are just speculating for the most part.