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  1. #101
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post

    Why don't you leave VCT and go suck his dick over there? Pretty stupid talking to someone on a forum they are banned on.
    I disagree. I’ve mentioned this several times here. Zenzone is “Moses island” and this is how people communite with Moses on other forums. He’s kind of like the wizard in the wizard of oz. You didn’t communicate directly to the wizard either. You went through an intermediator. It wasn’t until the dog pulled the curtain back that Dorothy was able to communicate directly with the wizard. I don’t think anybody is going to be pulling back the curtain from Moses’s sounding board (zenzone) anytime too soon.

    So we’ll just have to get used to commicwting with Moses this way. Keystone has almost become a celebrity over at zenzone with all his second hand posts over there.

    Btw, have you noticed how popular this thread is? It wouldn’t keep going and have so many views if Moses wasn’t so popular. Now if you don’t mind, I need to sign off here and head over to zensonze to see what Moses has to say.
    Don't forget to drink the Kool-Aid while you're there.
    Not that it matters, but I do agree with some of what Moses says, and he is funny and creative in how he says things. I don’t agree with his threats though. I think he should tone that part down.

    And I have learned some things from Moses on bj. In one of my posts, I made a throw away statement where I said his system made no sense. I shouldn’t have said that, since that’s not what I meant. I understand what he’s doing with his bj game and it does make sense. I’m not going to use his column count, but I will use elements of it. I get what he means by changing the 2 for the 7, and how it helps with the 14 vs 10 play, which comes up often. I’m not going to go to the column count, but I will pay more attention to the 7s (some call this side counting 7s). This weekend I did this based on Moses advice and felt it helped my game.

    Like I’ve previously said, I’m also on these forums for entertainment. I know that upsets Micky and some others here since they want me banned. Apparently they don’t believe in free speech or laughter. Micky said I should stay away and get my entertainment somewhere else. In Micky’s world these forums are super serious where nothing amusing goes on.

    Over time it seems like some gamblers and APs lose their sense of humor and develop a nasty personality. Zeebara comments on this on BJTF. At first, I didn’t know what he meant, but after being on these forums for a while I now see where he’s coming from.

  2. #102
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    To be fair, Moses has apologized for his recent and very sudden and out of character off the rails posting rants and said something like,"I actually was going through a rough patch when I was ranting like a maniac at VCT. I feel much better now and more like my old and I went to VCT to apologize for my ranting and found I had already been banned. I can't say I blame Dan for banning me as I really was coming across as a raving lunatic,but I really wish that I would get a second chance since I am over my ranting.
    Moses is a certified nutjob, just rambling on and on, writing to himself.

    If I were Dan, I’d unban Moses for a few hours in the morning & let him make like 50 posts, get his hopes up, then delete all his posts and re-ban him. He’d be absolutely devastated, moreso than he is right now.
    #FreeTyde

  3. #103
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Midwest Player, I have no issues with you, but you have always been a bit of a troublemaker. A guy who likes to stir the pot. You aren't doing Moses any favors with your "I feel bad for him, let's give him a second chance" shit. And even worse you aren't sincere, you are just trying to stir the pot and create trouble, as you often do.

    Moses is a deeply troubled person. I am not encouraging anyone to continue to read his rants to himself, but anyone who does will come to the same conclusion as MaxPen, who I guess just did read some. He appears to be getting worse. And he is getting himself into real trouble as I suspect at this point the police are reading his continuing threats, as they are aware of that site.

    Stop encouraging him MWP, he is going to end up in jail. And if he does, he will have no one to blame but himself. I tried to tell him he was way over the line for several days before I did anything about it. Other members here told him he was over the line. Numerous members that don't even like me, complained to Dan that he was way over the line. And yet he continued. He even asked Dan if it was alright for him to continue to make illegal threats against people. That is the level of bizarreness we are talking about.

    A couple people here mentioned how he seems to have gotten much worse in the past couple weeks. Those of us dealing with him for years have witnessed that over and over. I suspect he has some sort of bi-polar or mental condition that required medication and at times he goes off his meds (and off the deep end).

    But whatever, if you really care about him MWP, and I suspect you really don't, but if you do, stop encouraging him, before he ends up in jail or dead. Let him just fade away. Because it is all about the spotlight, so once that is gone, hopefully he just disappears and goes back to his little existence as a low roller gambler, sports bettor.
    Whoa! What is this about trying to stir the pot? I have no interest in seeing anyone get in trouble. I believe in second chances. Many times I went to bat for you to try to get Norm to lift your ban. The last time I tried I got a one week suspension from Norm. So yes, I believe Moses should be given a second chance also.

    This site is a little different than Norm's as Dan has said it is pretty hard to get banned here. Norm has always run a tight ship. Norm would never put up with all the shit that goes on here. I have tried to help Moses many times and warned him what would happen if he continued his threats. I don't know why Moses thinks fisticuffs is the answer to anything especially something posted on an internet forum. A real man would walk away from trouble.

    Now I do think you over reacted by going to the police with this, but certainly that is you right if you felt threatened. However, you situation is a lot different than Norm's who I feel had every right to ban Moses. Moses was not only threatening him on the internet, but actually called him up 3 times and threatened him. Norm has posted under his real name and has made no secret where he lives. Your have never disclosed your real name and there are millions of people who come and go each year from Vegas. The odds of Moses ever finding you are extremely small, and really why would he ever want to for some silly thing posted on the internet unless he is completely nuts.

  4. #104
    MWP, we can give you a break as we know you have been shoveling snow constantly for days now near the top of telephone poles, but you are a little late to the game. KewlJ has left the building a few days ago, you can find him over at blackjack info.

  5. #105
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Moses is a certified nutjob, just rambling on and on, writing to himself.

    If I were Dan, I’d unban Moses for a few hours in the morning & let him make like 50 posts, get his hopes up, then delete all his posts and re-ban him. He’d be absolutely devastated, moreso than he is right now.
    Re-read your post and try to explain how you are also not a nut job.
    You are one sick, vindictive individual.

  6. #106
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    MWP, we can give you a break as we know you have been shoveling snow constantly for days now near the top of telephone poles, but you are a little late to the game. KewlJ has left the building a few days ago, you can find him over at blackjack info.
    Yeah, the storm was bad. It probably was in the top 10 of blizzards that I can remember. Schools are still closed today. I had snow drifts on my path up to my waist, but in the past had drifts up to my chest. The high voltage sign on my utility pole is now completely below snow level. Roads are only one lane. So far spent 4 hours shoveling and that was only my path, probably another 6 hours to get my other car out. Snow drift is almost up to the roof of the car. We only got 22 inches of snow, but the winds made it a monster of a storm. Top wind gusts were clocked at 69 mph.
    http://www.keweenawcountyonline.org/snowfall2.php

    At least I wasn't around to see the 1938 U.P. of MI storm of the century.
    https://www.michiganradio.org/post/t...-blizzard-1938

  7. #107
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    To be fair, Moses has apologized for his recent and very sudden and out of character off the rails posting rants and said something like,"I actually was going through a rough patch when I was ranting like a maniac at VCT. I feel much better now and more like my old and I went to VCT to apologize for my ranting and found I had already been banned. I can't say I blame Dan for banning me as I really was coming across as a raving lunatic,but I really wish that I would get a second chance since I am over my ranting.

    Here is Moses's exact apology thread, posted verbatim.
    Moses wrote,


    "After I poured my first cup of coffee, I pulled up VT to see that I was banned. I'd already realized I'd dominated the posts the few days prior. Thus had already decided it was time for me to return to my island. But I didn't get the chance to say to Rob, Monet, Blackhole, Mick, Coach, Redietz, Bob 21, Bosox, that I needed at least a day or two off and was handing the baton back to you guys.

    So I never got the chance to say how much I enjoyed my time at this forum and it certainly was a learning experience.

    No hard feelings Dan on my part. But I would like to point out I never complained to you about anything or demanded any changes be made or said you have a shitty forum. In fact I compliment you for having a unique, one of a kind, forum. But I've seen how guys fold like a cheap suit when a "woman like" figure is ranting before us. We'd do just about anything for a little peace and quiet. I also PMed you earlier in the day to ask if I was coming on too strong but I never received a response so I literally put the hammer down. Also, it was my understanding that if you deemed posts off topic or too cryptic that you simply deleted them as you'd done to Keystone before.

    The colorful personalities were truly a hoot for me and something I won't forget. If you're in the area? First beer or soft drink is on me. I also wanted specifically apologize to Redietz, Singer, and Monet for interrupting your threads. Also to Coach, Monet, and Blackhole if I took away some of your thunder. That wasn't my intent. I noticed your posts had slowed considerably. If it was because my over exuberance, my regrets are submitted to you."

  8. #108
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    To be fair, Moses has apologized for his recent and very sudden and out of character off the rails posting rants and said something like,"I actually was going through a rough patch when I was ranting like a maniac at VCT. I feel much better now and more like my old and I went to VCT to apologize for my ranting and found I had already been banned. I can't say I blame Dan for banning me as I really was coming across as a raving lunatic,but I really wish that I would get a second chance since I am over my ranting.

    Here is Moses's exact apology thread, posted verbatim.
    Moses wrote,


    "After I poured my first cup of coffee, I pulled up VT to see that I was banned. I'd already realized I'd dominated the posts the few days prior. Thus had already decided it was time for me to return to my island. But I didn't get the chance to say to Rob, Monet, Blackhole, Mick, Coach, Redietz, Bob 21, Bosox, that I needed at least a day or two off and was handing the baton back to you guys.

    So I never got the chance to say how much I enjoyed my time at this forum and it certainly was a learning experience.

    No hard feelings Dan on my part. But I would like to point out I never complained to you about anything or demanded any changes be made or said you have a shitty forum. In fact I compliment you for having a unique, one of a kind, forum. But I've seen how guys fold like a cheap suit when a "woman like" figure is ranting before us. We'd do just about anything for a little peace and quiet. I also PMed you earlier in the day to ask if I was coming on too strong but I never received a response so I literally put the hammer down. Also, it was my understanding that if you deemed posts off topic or too cryptic that you simply deleted them as you'd done to Keystone before.

    The colorful personalities were truly a hoot for me and something I won't forget. If you're in the area? First beer or soft drink is on me. I also wanted specifically apologize to Redietz, Singer, and Monet for interrupting your threads. Also to Coach, Monet, and Blackhole if I took away some of your thunder. That wasn't my intent. I noticed your posts had slowed considerably. If it was because my over exuberance, my regrets are submitted to you."
    He had me at “Hello”. I think we should give him a second chance.

  9. #109
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    To be fair, Moses has apologized for his recent and very sudden and out of character off the rails posting rants and said something like,"I actually was going through a rough patch when I was ranting like a maniac at VCT. I feel much better now and more like my old and I went to VCT to apologize for my ranting and found I had already been banned. I can't say I blame Dan for banning me as I really was coming across as a raving lunatic,but I really wish that I would get a second chance since I am over my ranting.

    Here is Moses's exact apology thread, posted verbatim.
    Moses wrote,


    "After I poured my first cup of coffee, I pulled up VT to see that I was banned. I'd already realized I'd dominated the posts the few days prior. Thus had already decided it was time for me to return to my island. But I didn't get the chance to say to Rob, Monet, Blackhole, Mick, Coach, Redietz, Bob 21, Bosox, that I needed at least a day or two off and was handing the baton back to you guys.

    So I never got the chance to say how much I enjoyed my time at this forum and it certainly was a learning experience.

    No hard feelings Dan on my part. But I would like to point out I never complained to you about anything or demanded any changes be made or said you have a shitty forum. In fact I compliment you for having a unique, one of a kind, forum. But I've seen how guys fold like a cheap suit when a "woman like" figure is ranting before us. We'd do just about anything for a little peace and quiet. I also PMed you earlier in the day to ask if I was coming on too strong but I never received a response so I literally put the hammer down. Also, it was my understanding that if you deemed posts off topic or too cryptic that you simply deleted them as you'd done to Keystone before.

    The colorful personalities were truly a hoot for me and something I won't forget. If you're in the area? First beer or soft drink is on me. I also wanted specifically apologize to Redietz, Singer, and Monet for interrupting your threads. Also to Coach, Monet, and Blackhole if I took away some of your thunder. That wasn't my intent. I noticed your posts had slowed considerably. If it was because my over exuberance, my regrets are submitted to you."
    He had me at “Hello”. I think we should give him a second chance.
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  10. #110
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    To be fair, Moses has apologized for his recent and very sudden and out of character off the rails posting rants and said something like,"I actually was going through a rough patch when I was ranting like a maniac at VCT. I feel much better now and more like my old and I went to VCT to apologize for my ranting and found I had already been banned. I can't say I blame Dan for banning me as I really was coming across as a raving lunatic,but I really wish that I would get a second chance since I am over my ranting.

    Here is Moses's exact apology thread, posted verbatim.
    Moses wrote,


    "After I poured my first cup of coffee, I pulled up VT to see that I was banned. I'd already realized I'd dominated the posts the few days prior. Thus had already decided it was time for me to return to my island. But I didn't get the chance to say to Rob, Monet, Blackhole, Mick, Coach, Redietz, Bob 21, Bosox, that I needed at least a day or two off and was handing the baton back to you guys.

    So I never got the chance to say how much I enjoyed my time at this forum and it certainly was a learning experience.

    No hard feelings Dan on my part. But I would like to point out I never complained to you about anything or demanded any changes be made or said you have a shitty forum. In fact I compliment you for having a unique, one of a kind, forum. But I've seen how guys fold like a cheap suit when a "woman like" figure is ranting before us. We'd do just about anything for a little peace and quiet. I also PMed you earlier in the day to ask if I was coming on too strong but I never received a response so I literally put the hammer down. Also, it was my understanding that if you deemed posts off topic or too cryptic that you simply deleted them as you'd done to Keystone before.

    The colorful personalities were truly a hoot for me and something I won't forget. If you're in the area? First beer or soft drink is on me. I also wanted specifically apologize to Redietz, Singer, and Monet for interrupting your threads. Also to Coach, Monet, and Blackhole if I took away some of your thunder. That wasn't my intent. I noticed your posts had slowed considerably. If it was because my over exuberance, my regrets are submitted to you."
    The only thing he was coming on to strong was Bob. Or is that the other way around What kind of douchenozzle posts apologies on an empty forum?

  11. #111
    wow. every post. great time. laffs galore. Thank you.

  12. #112
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    To be fair, Moses has apologized for his recent and very sudden and out of character off the rails posting rants and said something like,"I actually was going through a rough patch when I was ranting like a maniac at VCT. I feel much better now and more like my old and I went to VCT to apologize for my ranting and found I had already been banned. I can't say I blame Dan for banning me as I really was coming across as a raving lunatic,but I really wish that I would get a second chance since I am over my ranting.

    Here is Moses's exact apology thread, posted verbatim.
    Moses wrote,


    "After I poured my first cup of coffee, I pulled up VT to see that I was banned. I'd already realized I'd dominated the posts the few days prior. Thus had already decided it was time for me to return to my island. But I didn't get the chance to say to Rob, Monet, Blackhole, Mick, Coach, Redietz, Bob 21, Bosox, that I needed at least a day or two off and was handing the baton back to you guys.

    So I never got the chance to say how much I enjoyed my time at this forum and it certainly was a learning experience.

    No hard feelings Dan on my part. But I would like to point out I never complained to you about anything or demanded any changes be made or said you have a shitty forum. In fact I compliment you for having a unique, one of a kind, forum. But I've seen how guys fold like a cheap suit when a "woman like" figure is ranting before us. We'd do just about anything for a little peace and quiet. I also PMed you earlier in the day to ask if I was coming on too strong but I never received a response so I literally put the hammer down. Also, it was my understanding that if you deemed posts off topic or too cryptic that you simply deleted them as you'd done to Keystone before.

    The colorful personalities were truly a hoot for me and something I won't forget. If you're in the area? First beer or soft drink is on me. I also wanted specifically apologize to Redietz, Singer, and Monet for interrupting your threads. Also to Coach, Monet, and Blackhole if I took away some of your thunder. That wasn't my intent. I noticed your posts had slowed considerably. If it was because my over exuberance, my regrets are submitted to you."
    The only thing he was coming on to strong was Bob. Or is that the other way around What kind of douchenozzle posts apologies on an empty forum?

    I suspect Bob21 is playing games at the Zen Zone, "although he would say that he meant well" I think he logs on and hits the same exact Moses posts something like 293 times a day to boost his moral.

  13. #113
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post


    Here is Moses's exact apology thread, posted verbatim.
    Moses wrote,


    "After I poured my first cup of coffee, I pulled up VT to see that I was banned. I'd already realized I'd dominated the posts the few days prior. Thus had already decided it was time for me to return to my island. But I didn't get the chance to say to Rob, Monet, Blackhole, Mick, Coach, Redietz, Bob 21, Bosox, that I needed at least a day or two off and was handing the baton back to you guys.

    So I never got the chance to say how much I enjoyed my time at this forum and it certainly was a learning experience.

    No hard feelings Dan on my part. But I would like to point out I never complained to you about anything or demanded any changes be made or said you have a shitty forum. In fact I compliment you for having a unique, one of a kind, forum. But I've seen how guys fold like a cheap suit when a "woman like" figure is ranting before us. We'd do just about anything for a little peace and quiet. I also PMed you earlier in the day to ask if I was coming on too strong but I never received a response so I literally put the hammer down. Also, it was my understanding that if you deemed posts off topic or too cryptic that you simply deleted them as you'd done to Keystone before.

    The colorful personalities were truly a hoot for me and something I won't forget. If you're in the area? First beer or soft drink is on me. I also wanted specifically apologize to Redietz, Singer, and Monet for interrupting your threads. Also to Coach, Monet, and Blackhole if I took away some of your thunder. That wasn't my intent. I noticed your posts had slowed considerably. If it was because my over exuberance, my regrets are submitted to you."
    The only thing he was coming on to strong was Bob. Or is that the other way around What kind of douchenozzle posts apologies on an empty forum?

    I suspect Bob21 is playing games at the Zen Zone, "although he would say that he meant well" I think he logs on and hits the same exact Moses posts something like 293 times a day to boost his moral.
    Wrongo. It’s 295 times a day.

  14. #114
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post

    The only thing he was coming on to strong was Bob. Or is that the other way around What kind of douchenozzle posts apologies on an empty forum?

    I suspect Bob21 is playing games at the Zen Zone, "although he would say that he meant well" I think he logs on and hits the same exact Moses posts something like 293 times a day to boost his moral.
    Wrongo. It’s 295 times a day.
    The other 195 remaining hits are from Tater. Although every time he hits one he reads it again and again and thinks they are all different. Later when he sees Moses he says to him Moses you sure have a way with words.
    Last edited by BoSox; 02-27-2019 at 06:06 AM.

  15. #115
    By the way Bob you keep referring to the Zen Zone as Moses island but actually, he shares that distinction with Solve et Coagula, and Svengarlicky.

  16. #116
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    By the way Bob you keep referring to the Zen Zone as Moses island but actually, he shares that distinction with Solve et Coagula, and Svengarlicky.
    There used to be a lot of decent gambling/AP posts. Sadly, no more.

  17. #117
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    By the way Bob you keep referring to the Zen Zone as Moses island but actually, he shares that distinction with Solve et Coagula, and Svengarlicky.
    Not that it matters but the reason I refer to zenzone as “Moses island” is because this is what he calls it. I thought that was an interesting name for it...that’s all. I didn’t come up with this on my own. I’m not that smart or cleaver.

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