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    I would start by following every man contestant into the restroom only to make sure he is not oversized because if he has a 9.5" dick he could get excited during play and TILT the machine.

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    Who is the wild man now Bosox? OMG, don't get Singer started. lol

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    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I would start by following every man contestant into the restroom only to make sure he is not oversized because if he has a 9.5" dick he could get excited during play and TILT the machine.
    This phony AP’s true colors have yet to be fully exposed. He’s just the newest of the alleged forum AP’s to join this forum pretending to be Mr. Reasonable, Mr. Righteous, Mr. Referee, and of course Mr. long term AP cash bags.

    Just another fraud needing a new place to propose his alleged successful AP propaganda like the fucking played out fool Kewlj. You can’t help but notice the happy yenta chat between the two of them. The whole forum thing is so obvious.

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    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    This phony AP’s true colors have yet to be fully exposed. He’s just the newest of the alleged forum AP’s to join this forum pretending to be Mr. Reasonable, Mr. Righteous, Mr. Referee, and of course Mr. long term AP cash bags.

    Just another fraud needing a new place to propose his alleged successful AP propaganda like the fucking played out fool Kewlj. You can’t help but notice the happy yenta chat between the two of them. The whole forum thing is so obvious.
    Mr. Blackhole: I probably shouldn't jump in here. You're liable to bite a big hunk out of my butt. I've known Bosox for a few years. Never have I heard him boast about being an AP or Pro or his earnings etc., FWIW, he impresses me as a humble guy who enjoys playing the game and my guess is pretty damn good at it.

    Sir. Perhaps I should point out the forum that Bosox was at, one is not not allowed to say shit if they had suddenly realized they'd just bit into it. Trust me, he tooks his lumps over there and IMO handled it with class and dignity. Bosox stood up for people when he didn't have to and didn't jump on the bandwagons like so many of those wimps do.

    Perhaps consider giving the guy a chance to settle in a bit, as you did me, and I appreciate it. I think you will find him to be a straightforward even keel guy with a good sense of humor.

    Btw, what the hell is a yenta chat? lol

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    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    This phony AP’s true colors have yet to be fully exposed. He’s just the newest of the alleged forum AP’s to join this forum pretending to be Mr. Reasonable, Mr. Righteous, Mr. Referee, and of course Mr. long term AP cash bags.

    Just another fraud needing a new place to propose his alleged successful AP propaganda like the fucking played out fool Kewlj. You can’t help but notice the happy yenta chat between the two of them. The whole forum thing is so obvious.
    Mr. Blackhole: I probably shouldn't jump in here. You’re liable to bite a big hunk out of my butt. I've known Bosox for a few years. Never have I heard him boast about being an AP or Pro or his earnings etc., FWIW, he impresses me as a humble guy who enjoys playing the game and my guess is pretty damn good at it.

    Sir. Perhaps I should point out the forum that Bosox was at, one is not not allowed to say shit if they had suddenly realized they'd just bit into it. Trust me, he tooks his lumps over there and IMO handled it with class and dignity. Bosox stood up for people when he didn't have to and didn't jump on the bandwagons like so many of those wimps do.

    Perhaps consider giving the guy a chance to settle in a bit, as you did me, and I appreciate it. I think you will find him to be a straightforward even keel guy with a good sense of humor.

    Btw, what the hell is a yenta chat? lol
    Moses you have a way with words. I laughed when I read this post. My favorite line? “You're liable to bite a big hunk out of my butt.” You definitely have a way with words. I mean that in a complimentary way.

    Here’s the thing though. I think this was blackholes own way of welcoming Bosox into the fold. When I first came here, I got the same type of greeting from blackhole. At the time, I overreacted and took it in the wrong way. Now I see this is blackhole’s way of saying “hi, welcome to our forum, glad you could join us.” He just has a different way of expressing himself.

    Now that I get blackhole, I take all his insults in a positive way, which is how I’m sure he meant them.
    Last edited by Bob21; 02-20-2019 at 09:44 PM.

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    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Btw, what the hell is a yenta chat? lol
    Synonyms for yenta:

    circulator, gossip, gossiper, gossipmonger, newsmonger, quidnunc, tale-teller, talebearer, telltale

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    It is very heartwarming to see BoSox being welcomed into the fold of the Confederacy of Dunces. Congrats are in order.

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    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I would start by following every man contestant into the restroom only to make sure he is not oversized because if he has a 9.5" dick he could get excited during play and TILT the machine.
    This phony AP’s true colors have yet to be fully exposed. He’s just the newest of the alleged forum AP’s to join this forum pretending to be Mr. Reasonable, Mr. Righteous, Mr. Referee, and of course Mr. long term AP cash bags.

    Just another fraud needing a new place to propose his alleged successful AP propaganda like the fucking played out fool Kewlj. You can’t help but notice the happy yenta chat between the two of them. The whole forum thing is so obvious.
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    It is very heartwarming to see BoSox being welcomed into the fold of the Confederacy of Dunces. Congrats are in order.
    After joining this board, I quickly discovered that there are two different factions to which I am not the least bit surprised. Now it appears that both of these sides are disapointed, well good that's the way I like it, as I consider myself an independant thinker, and do not want to be labled. Pertaining to the anti AP crowds opinions, I have not seen any of these antics yet, so forgive me if I reserve my judgement. Now regarding the AP crowd, if MaxPen, and KJ think that there are not going to be plenty of disagreements amongst the group, and that I am just going to fall right in and back up everything they say, they will be miataken. The perfect example is how you both lable Moses for gaming purposes, specificially single deck blackjack, and both of you refer to him as an idiot. I call that complete BULLSHIT, and want no part of it, and both of you can shove it up your ass. First I have not played single deck BJ in decades and have no right whatsoever to judge someone in that instance.

    Now we hear you two guys comparing him to Three, and using, and saying the same assine things he said. No you are both wrong, and it is not fair in the least. Starting with Three, who spoke about continous huge wins far greater than normal, during a long, long time period, while experiencing almost no volitility on shoe games no less. Fuck,he wasn't even playing BJ at the time. How the hell does that compare to Moses? Moses, does not mince words, what you see is what you get for better or worse, he is not trying to play games with anyone. Sorry, anti AP crowd it would be an insult for Moses to be part of the same thinking as you guys, but he seems to get along with most of your group. He has been playing in the trenches for decades providing a living for himself in the Reno area playing single deck BJ. How many people can say that? He is a survivor who does not brag, and a AP in my book, I could care less what the rest of you think. Regarding him saying that he does not experiance a whole lot of variance. Everything should be self explanitory, if people took the time to actuall listen to him once in a while.
    Last edited by BoSox; 02-21-2019 at 08:12 AM.

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    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Btw, what the hell is a yenta chat? lol
    Synonyms for yenta:

    circulator, gossip, gossiper, gossipmonger, newsmonger, quidnunc, tale-teller, talebearer, telltale
    Yenta. Great word Blackhole. I can go watch the Celtic game tonight and hit those yackers with it. They will be on their cell phones the rest of the night trying to figure out its meaning...and I can watch the game in peace. lol

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    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    After joining this board, I quickly discovered that there are two different factions to which I am not the least bit surprised. Now it appears that both of these sides are disapointed, well good that's the way I like it, as I consider myself an independant thinker, and do not want to be labled. Pertaining to the anti AP crowds opinions, I have not seen any of these antics yet, so forgive me if I reserve my judgement. Now regarding the AP crowd, if MaxPen, and KJ think that there are not going to be plenty of disagreements amongst the group, and that I am just going to fall right in and back up everything they say, they will be miataken. The perfect example is how you both lable Moses for gaming purposes, specificially single deck blackjack, and both of you refer to him as an idiot. I call that complete BULLSHIT, and want no part of it, and both of you can shove it up your ass. First I have not played single deck BJ in decades and have no right whatsoever to judge someone in that instance.

    Now we hear you two guys comparing him to Three, and using, and saying the same assine things he said. No you are both wrong, and it is not fair in the least. Starting with Three, who spoke about continous huge wins far greater than normal, during a long, long time period, while experiencing almost no volitility on shoe games no less. Fuck,he wasn't even playing BJ at the time. How the hell does that compare to Moses? Moses, does not mince words, what you see is what you get for better or worse, he is not trying to play games with anyone. Sorry, anti AP crowd it would be an insult for Moses to be part of the same thinking as you guys, but he seems to get along with most of your group. He has been playing in the trenches for decades providing a living for himself in the Reno area playing single deck BJ. How many people can say that? He is a survivor who does not brag, and a AP in my book, I could care less what the rest of you think. Regarding him saying that he does not experiance a whole lot of variance. Everything should be self explanitory, if people took the time to actuall listen to him once in a while.
    Excellent summary Bosox. You caught on even quicker than I thought. lol Like you, I've never worried about words like AP or Pro. Hell, I must have missed the draft or something. lol But I go out most days with a job to do and I better damn well do it good or learn to enjoy Mac and Cheese. Thus I fail to see the divide between AP- vs anit AP. As my friend 82 year young friend Lou puts it for here. There are bullshitters and blowhards...and he actually explained the difference between the two. Then there are a few of us, like you and Blackhole (and others) IMO that shoot straight. Lou can tolerate a bullshitter. But man, can he spot and give a blowhard thunder. Believe it or not we spend a lot of time discussing that very subject. Sometimes I think he must have been a real piss cutter in his day. Think again, I think. Hell, he still is. lol

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    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I would start by following every man contestant into the restroom only to make sure he is not oversized because if he has a 9.5" dick he could get excited during play and TILT the machine.
    This phony AP’s true colors have yet to be fully exposed. He’s just the newest of the alleged forum AP’s to join this forum pretending to be Mr. Reasonable, Mr. Righteous, Mr. Referee, and of course Mr. long term AP cash bags.

    Just another fraud needing a new place to propose his alleged successful AP propaganda like the fucking played out fool Kewlj. You can’t help but notice the happy yenta chat between the two of them. The whole forum thing is so obvious.
    It took you over two hours to derail the thread. What took you so long this time?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    The perfect example is how you both lable Moses for gaming purposes, specificially single deck blackjack, and both of you refer to him as an idiot. I call that complete BULLSHIT, and want no part of it, and both of you can shove it up your ass. First I have not played single deck BJ in decades and have no right whatsoever to judge someone in that instance.

    Now we hear you two guys comparing him to Three, and using, and saying the same assine things he said. No you are both wrong, and it is not fair in the least. Starting with Three, who spoke about continous huge wins far greater than normal, during a long, long time period, while experiencing almost no volitility on shoe games no less. Fuck,he wasn't even playing BJ at the time. How the hell does that compare to Moses? Moses, does not mince words, what you see is what you get for better or worse, he is not trying to play games with anyone. Sorry, anti AP crowd it would be an insult for Moses to be part of the same thinking as you guys, but he seems to get along with most of your group. He has been playing in the trenches for decades providing a living for himself in the Reno area playing single deck BJ. How many people can say that? He is a survivor who does not brag, and a AP in my book, I could care less what the rest of you think. Regarding him saying that he does not experiance a whole lot of variance. Everything should be self explanitory, if people took the time to actuall listen to him once in a while.
    BoSox, this isn't about single deck blackjack. For years I actually gave Moses a bit of a pass because his claims were about single deck blackjack, which I don't play. I don't know how many time I have said something to the effect that Moses has access and plays single deck blackjack that 99.9 of blackjack players and card counters do not. So everything he says and suggests should be taken and viewed through that context.

    Now let me tell you a couple facts about single deck blackjack.

    #1, most of the books from the 70 and 80, many of "the classics" that are still referenced today, were written for the single deck blackjack game, because that is what was mostly played back then in Nevada, including Las Vegas. Every single one of these books talks about the need for a large bankroll. Most will reference the standard used at that time (pre-computer Kelly wagering knowledge) of a minimum of 100 max bets needed for a bankroll. Why do you think that is BoSox? I'll give you the answer: Because there is variance in single deck blackjack card counting play!

    There is variance and swings with single deck play just the same as multideck shoe games. Not as severe because the shoe game requires a bigger spread and max bet, so the swings will be several times more, but there are swings and variance associated with all card counting play, including single deck.

    I'll give you an example: Single deck, playing quarters (25 minimum bet). A relatively small 1-4 spread. That would be a max bet of $100. That old rule of thumb of 100 max bets would require $10,000 to play safely. If there is no variance as Moses claims why does a player need $10,000 to play a $100 max bet? Answer: there is variance. There are mathematical formula that tell you what the variance is and we now know that 100 max bets isn't even enough to guarantee a reasonable RoR.

    So anyone, anywhere, claiming they play professionally or even regularly (part-time but frequently) and experience little or no variance is full of shit. Single deck, shoe games, super-duper counts, including Moses's column count....doesn't matter. Can't be done. There is no such thing as blackjack card counting with little variance. Now if you are getting into other areas with larger advantages such as hole-carding or a couple other techniques, then yes, you can do these things with much less variance. Card counting....NO!

    And think about it. If it were possible to count cards and win with little or no variance, there would be like a million successful card counters. Even degenerate players could scrape up the small BR needed to play and win. Everyone would be winning all the time. And as a result the casinos could not and would not continue to offer a beatable game. Variance and the large bankroll needed to cover those swings (will are guaranteed to occur by mathematics) is the thing that weeds out most players, so only a few are able to play a winning game and of that few that are able to, even less have the mentality to handle those large swings. I have said a number of times, maybe not often enough "variance is our friend". It is what allows the casinos to offer a playable game (and worry about those select few in other ways).

    Issue #2. I have played Reno and have spoken to players that play Reno more than I, including Bear. No professional player can play Reno full-time. It just can't happen. It is too small. There aren't enough places that let you get any real money down and they aren't going to tolerate it from the same player on a regular basis. Sure a player that rolls into Reno a couple times a year can get a limited amount of play in at reasonable stakes at a few select places, especially on weekends and crowded times, but not a regular player on a regular basis. Not in 2019. And actually not for quite a while.

    So anyone telling you they play blackjack card counting with no or little variance and swings is full of shit and anyone telling you they are a professional player, playing only reno on a regular basis is full of shit.

    Those are Moses's claims and I have known he is full of shit for many years. I don't care. I don't call out most people I think are full of shit. And I even gave Moses a pass, by repeatedly throwing out the disclaimer that his "situation" and comments were for the single deck game that like .01% of players have access to. I did that so as NOT to embarrass him and start a war.

    But then Moses comes here and attacks my experiences that I have shared, including my variance and swings, loss of 29k. These swings are very much a part of professional level blackjack card counting. Anyone that doesn't think so and claims they are not simply doesn't know what they are talking about....PERIOD!

    So Moses comes here and starts his shit concerning my variance, the real variance of a real player playing multi-deck games (that he knows nothing about) and I am the bad guy for now calling him out that he is and continues to prove that he has no clue what he is talking about?

    And BTW, guys that like to call me out and challenge things always seem to cherry pick. In this case, Moses and others before him (now departed) wanted to keep harping on this 29k loss in a single week as if that is normal. 15 years I have been playing. That is 750 weeks! And this week was the worst week I have ever experienced and by quite a bit. It happened to contain 2 different 5 figure losing days within a 4 days of play. At my level of play I experience 5 figure losing days 4-5 times a year. It goes without saying that I have never had 2 within a few days.

    So the bottom line is I don't believe Moses is the player he says, meaning a fulltime professional player. If I had to guess, I would guess that he is retired from whatever he did in life and is a low limit red chip player enjoying his retirement in Reno and in the sportsbooks with his friends. And there is NOTHING wrong with that. I didn't call him out on it and would have continued not to, but then he goes calling me out on the real swings and experiences that ARE part of blackjack card counting. So my friend BoSox, don't make me out to be the bad guy here.

    add-on: oh and one other thing BoSox. Since Moses has started attacking me and my results, including that very negative week, it has become crystal clear that this isn't even about my game, results or experiences, hasn't it? Moses, like a few others have repeatedly shown, their big issues is about the fact that I am gay, which has nothing to do with any blackjack discussion, yet they repeatedly bring it in and attack me for it. THAT is what most of the hate directed at me is about. A few older dudes, stuck in the past and their insecurities with people that are different than them.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 02-21-2019 at 11:29 AM.

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    Idiot. Okay maybe gay is too strong a word. But queer seems to fit you perfectly. It's not me who put the two terms together in the Urban Dictionary. All you have to do is play me. CLEARLY, no one, other than MaxiPad wants to hear your bullshit anymore. It's not my fault that YOU don't get it. I refuse to play red chip and haven't in years. Where do you get your info. From Flash? Really, I've met two people in my life in person that are blackjack players. I'm fairly certain it's not one of them but just for you I will call them and ask. But only if you reveal your source. Again, you won't because it doesn't exist. Therefore, again you lose more credibility again today. But you're too damn much of a panzy to do anything about it except keep squawking on a forum

    Clearly, you want to be respected by your peers and to be idolized be these newbies that exist in your mind for the most part. That will never happen because of what you did with Coach Belly and the fact you continue to back down from me. So look deep inside yourself queer boy. You can either remain a pussy or do something about it. Makes no difference to me.

    I've about determined that MaxiPad must be your brother. Who else would give such a fuck about in ignorant fuck such as you.
    Have you two morons (KJ and MaxiPad) not noticed that the more you come at me each day the more credibility you lose?

    Enjoy your little yenta chat today.
    Last edited by Moses; 02-21-2019 at 12:00 PM.

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    KewlJ wrote:

    "Now let me tell you a couple facts about single deck blackjack.

    #1, most of the books from the 70 and 80, many of "the classics" that are still referenced today, were written for the single deck blackjack game, because that is what was mostly played back then in Nevada, including Las Vegas. Every single one of these books talks about the need for a large bankroll. Most will reference the standard used at that time (pre-computer Kelly wagering knowledge) of a minimum of 100 max bets needed for a bankroll. Why do you think that is BoSox? I'll give you the answer: Because there is variance in single deck blackjack card counting play!

    There is variance and swings with single deck play just the same as multideck shoe games. Not as severe because the shoe game requires a bigger spread and max bet, so the swings will be several times more, but there are swings and variance associated with all card counting play, including single deck.

    I'll give you an example: Single deck, playing quarters (25 minimum bet). A relatively small 1-4 spread. That would be a max bet of $100. That old rule of thumb of 100 max bets would require $10,000 to play safely. If there is no variance as Moses claims why does a player need $10,000 to play a $100 max bet? Answer: there is variance. There are mathematical formula that tell you what the variance is and we now know that 100 max bets isn't even enough to guarantee a reasonable RoR.

    So anyone, anywhere, claiming they play professionally or even regularly (part-time but frequently) and experience little or no variance is full of shit. Single deck, shoe games, super-duper counts, including Moses's column count....doesn't matter. Can't be done. There is no such thing as blackjack card counting with little variance. Now if you are getting into other areas with larger advantages such as hole-carding or a couple other techniques, then yes, you can do these things with much less variance. Card counting....NO!"

    When we play on shoe games, often we use the minimum bets as waiting bets until we see where we really want to start our real first unit. In Moses case he does not have that luxury. Tolerance levels and spreads are basically house and table dependent. Not in the least near what Moses would like to actually be betting. Subsequently, all the short sessions and small spreads and tolerance levels that he has no choice but to adhere or else, the short term variance to him is rather meaningless to what he would like to do but cannot. I would call that telling the truth. If you followed his post that's what he said.
    Last edited by BoSox; 02-21-2019 at 12:36 PM.

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    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Idiot. Okay maybe gay is too strong a word. But queer seems to fit you perfectly. It's not me who put the two terms together in the Urban Dictionary. All you have to do is play me. CLEARLY, no one, other than MaxiPad wants to hear your bullshit anymore. It's not my fault that YOU don't get it. I refuse to play red chip and haven't in years. Where do you get your info. From Flash? Really, I've met two people in my life in person that are blackjack players. I'm fairly certain it's not one of them but just for you I will call them and ask. But only if you reveal your source. Again, you won't because it doesn't exist. Therefore, again you lose more credibility again today. But you're too damn much of a panzy to do anything about it except keep squawking on a forum

    Clearly, you want to be respected by your peers and to be idolized be these newbies that exist in your mind for the most part. That will never happen because of what you did with Coach Belly and the fact you continue to back down from me. So look deep inside yourself queer boy. You can either remain a pussy or do something about it. Makes no difference to me.

    I've about determined that MaxiPad must be your brother. Who else would give such a fuck about in ignorant fuck such as you.
    Have you two morons (KJ and MaxiPad) not noticed that the more you come at me each day the more credibility you lose?

    Enjoy your little yenta chat today.
    You are really a goofball. Where did I say I had a source? You just make up shit every step of the way to suite yourself. I gave my opinion based on my knowledge and talking to other players, that a person can't play professional blackjack in Reno. Just too small and intolerant and they will just not allow that kind of money for long. I said nothing about any source.

    MaxPen is not my brother. My brother doesn't read and has no interest in these forums. MaxPen has been around longer than me I believe, or at least for quite a while. He is a long-time, pretty known advantage player living in Vegas. I have never officially met him, although it is possible we played together as we shared some experiences and stories of common places that we played. (remember the blind guy MaxPen?)

    Moses, why don't you grow up a little. Queer boy? Maxipad? Your little derogatory name calling of everyone. That is how an 8 year old acts Moses, not a mature adult human being. If you want people to take you seriously, stop acting like a child.

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    So here is what I'm going to do. My cousin is already going to start asking the dealers in Vegas about KJ and MaxPen. KJ has already boasted he is well known.

    HE will simply send me a picture and then I will a have snapshot of the two wannabe tough guys/blackjack players. Then, since he has a condo, I can stay there for as many days as I choose for the price of buying him dinners.

    Now, clearly you have pissed off a number of people with your incessant nonsense. Maybe one of them will PM me and tell me exactly where to find you two yo ho's. Then, I can tract you for a few days and report back if I see you counting two tables or wonging in and out or even playing for that matter. You won't even know I'm there until I decide I want you to know. This isn't my first rodeo dipshits. But I got a feeling it's going to be yours.

    So go ahead call me crazy or whatever you need to feel secure in your little fantasy world where you're afraid to face your fears. But remember one thing. It might not be me. It could be one of the lurkers. IT ONLY TAKES ONE.

    Now see what a mess you're in? All you had to do was shut up, face me, and/or play me.
    Last edited by Moses; 02-21-2019 at 01:04 PM.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    When we play on shoe games, often we use the minimum bets as waiting bets until we see where we really want to start our real first unit. In Moses case he does not have that luxury. Tolerance levels and spreads are basically house and table dependent. Not in the least near what Moses would like to actually be betting. Subsequently, all the short sessions and small spreads and tolerance levels that he has no choice but to adhere or else, the short term variance to him is rather meaningless to what he would like to do but cannot.
    BoSox, why are you not "quoting" the normal way?

    Moving on, I appreciate that you know and use the real definition of unit. Few players do.

    The rest of your paragraph doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I am not really sure what you are saying or trying to say, but it doesn't change the fact that with blackjack card counting there are times, you will lose. Most of your larger bets and double downs will just lose. For sessions, days, weeks. That is variance. Nothing a player does can change that.

    In the past week or so, moses has embraced "stop limits" as a way to harness variance. COMPLETE VOODOO! Unless you are stopping forever, a stop limit, has zero effect. Whatever is going to happen next is going to happen next, whether that next hand or session is in 10 minutes or 2 weeks. All a stop limit does is reduce the total play you will get in. It shortens your total play and that reduced your total results. Less total play at an advantage.

    Here is the hint BoSox, in the past week or so, while attacking my 29k loss, moses has said things like I lost $200 or $400 today. Only $28,800 more to go, or only $28,600 and I can be a professional player. Did you read him say that? Forget the shot he is unsuccessfully trying to take at me and think about what that statement really reveals. What that says is that $200 or $400 is a significant loss for moses. And that can only be if he is a very small red chip player. And that is EXACTLY the level that he might be able to get away with on a regular basis playing Reno.

    THAT is what he is BoSox, a likely retired dude, playing red chip and hanging in the sportsbook with his friends. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But it doesn't give him the right to start calling out a player, playing both games (multi-deck) and betting levels ($400, $500, $600, $800 max bets) that he has absolutely no clue about playing.

    OK, it's noon and I have a lunch appointment and then gotta go to work. Time to make the donuts! Luckily the snow storm is now over and the roads clear. We actually did get snow in the Vegas Valley overnight, coating cars and on the grass. It was sort of nice to see. I usually have to go to nearby Lee Canyon to see some snow up close.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 02-21-2019 at 12:56 PM.

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    I don't know about all that. But it would seem to me that losing $29K a week is damn near impossible unless ones head is waaaaay up their ass.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    I don't know about all that. But it would seem to me that losing $29K a week is damn near impossible unless ones head is waaaaay up their ass.
    Well you would be wrong.

    I have lost $29k in a week. (exactly 1 time)

    I win and lose 10k+ in a day, probably once a month (10-12 times a year)

    I have won $20k in one shoe (exactly 1 time)

    I have won $115k over a 5 week period. (exactly 1 time)

    These things are very possible....not common but very possible at my level of play. If a player plays long enough, like almost daily for 15 years, he is going to experience these things and more at my level of play (which isn't even that high). But it is a level of play, you don't play, and have no idea about, so why do you think it is your ridht to spout off about something you really have no clue about?

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