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    Blobby21, in expressing your admiration for "the nut job", you have mentioned how impressed you were by how many views he gets on the mental Island.

    I have to admit that is the first time I took notice. Immediately I knew something was wrong. I mean sure that are a very small number of folks that are periodically popping in over there to continue to watch his breakdown. People love to watch a train wreck. I myself visit once every day or two just to make note of any additional threats and forward them as I was requested to do by law enforcement. But when I finally noticed those numbers I knew something was up. No way were thousands of people viewing Moses's rantings as you and him (if you are in fact 2 different people) think and were proud of.

    So Today, I got the answer. I received an email from a friend in the community that told me that one of the guys from Norm's forum, one of the computer tech type guys that knows all that stuff that I am in the dark about....wrote a program where a "bot" repeatedly views posts by Moses just to drive up the views to fuck with him. Funny, Funny Shit! I mean we need a new seriously rolling on the floor laughing hysterically emoji for this one.

    And I know this sounds a little far fetched. 2 things: This is a very credible person that confidentially shared this with me. And 2 anyone doubting take a look at the view numbers. Moses has 4, 5, 6 thousand views, while other threads have a hundred or so. I mean this is a dead forum. There aren't thousands of people reading Moses. LOL! There aren't even thousands of members in the community if you were to add the active members from all forums together.

    I gotta laugh again. Funny, funny shit. Even though I was fooled and left scratching my head as well.....kudos to the person responsible. You seriously fucked with one of the bigger trolls in the community. Well done!

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    Moses really bothers you, doesn't he.

    In fact....ANYBODY who doesn't agree with or buy your lies a bs actually bothers you right thru the looong nights, don't they.

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    Moses don't bother me, Rob Singer or whatever your name is.

    For years have known that Moses's claims were bullshit, just like the guy I called out earlier on a blackjack forum and just like yourself. But there was no reason for me to publicly call out Moses, or say to much. And circumstance of us both being banned from different forums, me for forum politic reasons, him for his crazy trolling issues, kept us apart for the most part.

    What I determined quite a while ago is that yes, Moses has a little bit of blackjack knowledge, especially relating to the single deck game (real single deck not 6:5). In reading his re-hashed and re=spewed knowledge, it was like re-reading a book from the 1980, when those conditions were popular.

    Knowing Reno from my own experience as well as experiences shared by other players, I knew there is no way a player can play professionally based out of Reno. It is too small and they just will not let a 'regular' player get that kind of money down for more than a couple days at best.

    So I sort of determined that Moses was likely a $5 player, spreading to $15 or $20. Probably a retired guy with retirement pension from some sort of blue collar career and/or social security, who hung out in the sportsbook with his retired buddies and played a bit of $5 blackjack (probably at the begging of the month when he wasn't broke). And I am not making fun of that....that scenario isn't a bad situation for someone retired that enjoys gambling.

    However because of this threat situation and my involvement with Law enforcement, they have shared with me some info and it turns out Moses is NOT retired, or at least not of traditional retirement age, although getting close. He is however probably receiving social security...social security disability and if I had to guess (they wouldn't share this info) I would guess not for a physical disability.

    So he likely has his SS disability or SSI (if he never worked) and the part about hanging out with his buddies in the sportsbook, wagering $11 on a few basketball games and occasionally playing $5 blackjack probably still holds. Only difference is his buddies are probably not legitimate "retired" guys as I first assumed. Probably a mix of homeless (like the great Tatar) and others in the same boat as Moses. Moses may or may not even be homeless himself. I would guess not. Probably has some room that he rents so he has a place to lay his head, but who knows...who cares.

    We have these homeless groups in Vegas, including people that may or may not be on some sort of disability, SSI or other assistance that hang out in some of the small lower end casino sportsbooks. Jerry's Nugget, Arizona Charlies, Silver Seven even Sam's town. I am sure a few more.

    THAT is what we are talking about here. The only difference with Moses is that he is an internet troll who has recently escalated his trolling to a criminal level with repeated threats of physical violence.

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    We have these homeless groups in Vegas, including people that may or may not be on some sort of disability, SSI or other assistance that hang out in some of the small lower end casino sportsbooks. Jerry's Nugget, Arizona Charlies, Silver Seven even Sam's town. I am sure a few more.
    In re-reading, I should have said homeless or near homeless groups of people. But I think everyone gets the jist and probably has encountered these types of people.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Blobby21, in expressing your admiration for "the nut job", you have mentioned how impressed you were by how many views he gets on the mental Island.

    I have to admit that is the first time I took notice. Immediately I knew something was wrong. I mean sure that are a very small number of folks that are periodically popping in over there to continue to watch his breakdown. People love to watch a train wreck. I myself visit once every day or two just to make note of any additional threats and forward them as I was requested to do by law enforcement. But when I finally noticed those numbers I knew something was up. No way were thousands of people viewing Moses's rantings as you and him (if you are in fact 2 different people) think and were proud of.

    So Today, I got the answer. I received an email from a friend in the community that told me that one of the guys from Norm's forum, one of the computer tech type guys that knows all that stuff that I am in the dark about....wrote a program where a "bot" repeatedly views posts by Moses just to drive up the views to fuck with him. Funny, Funny Shit! I mean we need a new seriously rolling on the floor laughing hysterically emoji for this one.

    And I know this sounds a little far fetched. 2 things: This is a very credible person that confidentially shared this with me. And 2 anyone doubting take a look at the view numbers. Moses has 4, 5, 6 thousand views, while other threads have a hundred or so. I mean this is a dead forum. There aren't thousands of people reading Moses. LOL! There aren't even thousands of members in the community if you were to add the active members from all forums together.

    I gotta laugh again. Funny, funny shit. Even though I was fooled and left scratching my head as well.....kudos to the person responsible. You seriously fucked with one of the bigger trolls in the community. Well done!
    And here I though you came to the forums to talk about blackjack and help others etc? This stuff is all nonsense you don't really need in your life. Just block and ignore the people who you cant ever win with.

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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    And here I though you came to the forums to talk about blackjack and help others etc? This stuff is all nonsense you don't really need in your life. Just block and ignore the people who you cant ever win with.
    Really?!? You are going to bust on me for this? This forum has very little real blackjack discussion. And there is very little "helping others" going on here or anyone even looking for or open to help.

    Regardless as to why any of us came to this forum, the fact that we stay here, with this goofiness, means we ALL have some issues.

    Why exactly are you here? You thought there were free drinks?

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    Kewlj, I'm really feeling bad for you at this point. I'm thinking about financing therapy for you.

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    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Kewlj, I'm really feeling bad for you at this point. I'm thinking about financing therapy for you.
    You should finance a lobotomy for Moses...that kook that has the hots for you

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    And here I though you came to the forums to talk about blackjack and help others etc? This stuff is all nonsense you don't really need in your life. Just block and ignore the people who you cant ever win with.
    Really?!? You are going to bust on me for this? This forum has very little real blackjack discussion. And there is very little "helping others" going on here or anyone even looking for or open to help.

    Regardless as to why any of us came to this forum, the fact that we stay here, with this goofiness, means we ALL have some issues.

    Why exactly are you here? You thought there were free drinks?
    I certainly didn't come here for the free dicks like you thought there was going to be.

    But seriously.... (I didnt)

    Not trying to bust you for anything. Just trying to give you some advice. If you want to talk about blackjack, then do so. It's simple, talk about it and just ignore negative comments. When you participate in all the other stuff it fuels the the situation/trolls and just drives the focus on that aspect and away from the good stuff. There is only so much time in the day, you can choose to go back and fourth with the naysayers and trolls or you can chose that time to talk about the things that are important to you that you like.

    You cant even compare your situation to mine, its like comparing apples and oranges. You seem to be a drama magnet and tend have 20x more issues than anyone else. And whats more, you can't seem to step away or let stuff go for that long and it seems to affect you more than most. I can actually see/visualize you getting upset from time to time. From my understanding, the forums have negatively seeped into your personal life and even caused you damage and almost death(?). I mean you guys are talking about lawsuits, personal threats, lost income etc etc.



    First time shame on you, 2nd time shame on me, 3rd time( people have to ask)....WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

    I have had very little problems on the forums with others(and if you will notice, most of the people I have had issues with, they seem to have issues with most everyone). There have been some, but they are minuscule compared to the positive aspects. I have meet many good people on the forums and made some good friends who I can trust and even be mutually beneficial to each other. The forums have been overwhelmingly good for me in many different ways and aspects of my life. So that's my justification.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    We have these homeless groups in Vegas, including people that may or may not be on some sort of disability, SSI or other assistance that hang out in some of the small lower end casino sportsbooks. Jerry's Nugget, Arizona Charlies, Silver Seven even Sam's town. I am sure a few more.
    In re-reading, I should have said homeless or near homeless groups of people. But I think everyone gets the jist and probably has encountered these types of people.
    Can't say how it is today but St. Vincents used to have a separate shelter for the old guys on SS. When they got their checks they were gone to the casinos until they blew it all. Then they would go back to the shelter and sit it out for the month until they got their next check.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Another BS Thread started by kewlJ after complaining about Mendlesons BS threads.

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    Unlike several trolls here who's only purpose is to troll, Monet is a knowledgeable AP who could be a real asset to this forum. Too bad his pettiness gets the best of him and gets in the way of that.

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    No I am not Moses. Yes I do know Moses. No I am not Tater. I have met Tater twice.

    Moses invites anyone from this forum to come see him and he will prove all these allegations are false. You can come to his home. Watch him play blackjack at green chip tables. Meet Tater in person. He will take you to a sports book and show his history of betting $2,200 a game. HE will show you how he both column counts and percentage counts. Moses has never been homeless. Never been on SSI or any disability. Never been in, let alone slept in a homeless shelter. He has no debt and a strong financial portfolio. Certainly more than enough to set aside a retainer.

    In the meantime, until the allegation are proved by KJ and Bosox, they should be banned. IF Moses provides proof to anyone that wants to come visit then a ban for false accusation should be permanent. These threads were made by KJ and many posts made where Moses could not reply.


    MOses replies; PUT your money where you mouth is KJ.

    So I sort of determined that Moses was likely a $5 player, spreading to $15 or $20. Probably a retired guy with retirement pension from some sort of blue collar career and/or social security, who hung out in the sportsbook with his retired buddies and played a bit of $5 blackjack (probably at the begging of the month when he wasn't broke). And I am not making fun of that....that scenario isn't a bad situation for someone retired that enjoys gambling.

    I will bet your $29K you are wrong.

    However because of this threat situation and my involvement with Law enforcement, they have shared with me some info and it turns out Moses is NOT retired, or at least not of traditional retirement age, although getting close. He is however probably receiving social security...social security disability and if I had to guess (they wouldn't share this info) I would guess not for a physical disability.

    I will bet your $29K you are wrong.

    So he likely has his SS disability or SSI (if he never worked) and the part about hanging out with his buddies in the sportsbook, wagering $11 on a few basketball games and occasionally playing $5 blackjack probably still holds. Only difference is his buddies are probably not legitimate "retired" guys as I first assumed. Probably a mix of homeless (like the great Tatar) and others in the same boat as Moses. Moses may or may not even be homeless himself. I would guess not. Probably has some room that he rents so he has a place to lay his head, but who knows...who cares.

    I will bet your $29K you are wrong.

    THAT is what we are talking about here. The only difference with Moses is that he is an internet troll who has recently escalated his trolling to a criminal level with repeated threats of physical violence.

    Please list the phone number of your agency, detective name, case number, and I will call them. There is also a law about enticement and false allegations. Bring it KJ.


    KJ writes: In re-reading, I should have said homeless or near homeless groups of people. But I think everyone gets the jist and probably has encountered these types of people.

    Moses I will bet you $29K you are wrong. C'mon KJ stop being such a wuss. MAN UP. WISE UP. PAY UP. SHUT UP.

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    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Kewlj, I'm really feeling bad for you at this point. I'm thinking about financing therapy for you.
    Hello Blackhole. Pathological gamblers are highly competitive and overly concerned about approval from others. Prone to other "addictive" disorders. Persistent patterns which cause difficulty with interpersonal, financial, and vocational functioning.

    Compulsive liar: The major losses are a self deception to it all and more will return in the long run. Thus he needs others in his boat in order to justify his losses as a sacrifice to others. KJ will spend his entire, yet shortened, life in pursuit of the "Blue Ribbon" at the of the long run. Low self esteem is commonly found in pathological liars. The lie is an attempt to feel good about themselves. Hence, the constant lies about Moses.

    The same lie repeated over and over creates a myth of success and displacement of his own failure. So his imaginary fantasy world serves as a protection bubble to reinforce self esteem to deal with losing. Pathological liars use deceit as an ego defense mechanism. This is primarily caused by the lack of ability to cope with everyday problems in a mature way.

    Btw. Mr Hole. where do I send my bill? They'll be $29k please. lol

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Don't be befuddled, be happy I think he owes you $29K four times over. No wonder his playing days are over. He should have stayed to the sports book betting.
    Bosox clearly struggles with comprehension and creative writing skills. He probably had a difficult time in middle and high school. This is usually when the ability to interpret social and emotional cues and nonliteral phrases become important for learning. Although highly intelligent, little things, like Post Quick Reply are very confusing to this type of syndrome.
    Last edited by UCFX; 03-19-2019 at 09:57 PM.

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    And here I though you came to the forums to talk about blackjack and help others etc? This stuff is all nonsense you don't really need in your life. Just block and ignore the people who you cant ever win with.
    Excellent post. Just put the world on ignore. Bad for the psychiatry biz though. Wait! Bad idea.

    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I certainly didn't come here for the free dicks like you thought there was going to be.
    WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
    O. My Gosh!

    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    But based on kj’s standards this is okay. Until someone sends me the official AP code of conduct manual, I’m going with Kj’s manual. He says sock puppets are okay as long as the sock puppet himself/herself feels they are justified in using a sock puppet. Makes sense to me. Lol.
    KJ takes Bosox in for a check up. The nurse says "we need a sperm sample, a stool, and a urine sample." Bosox, says "OMG what should I do"?

    KJ says, "here, hand them my sock puppet."

    Does that help clear it up for you Bob?
    Last edited by UCFX; 03-20-2019 at 06:08 PM.

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    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post

    Excellent post. Just put the world on ignore. Bad for the psychiatry biz though. Wait! Bad idea.



    O. My Gosh!

    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    But based on kj’s standards this is okay. Until someone sends me the official AP code of conduct manual, I’m going with Kj’s manual. He says sock puppets are okay as long as the sock puppet himself/herself feels they are justified in using a sock puppet. Makes sense to me. Lol.
    KJ takes Bosox in for a check up. The nurse says "we need a sperm sample, a stool, and a urine sample." Bosox, says "OMG what should I do"?

    KJ says, "here, hand them my sock puppet."

    Does that help clear it up for you Bob?
    Can you please note that you edited out words in my post. It changes the context of what I said for the purpose of disparaging KJ. I can get in enough conflict on my own under normal circumstances.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Can you please note that you edited out words in my post. It changes the context of what I said for the purpose of disparaging KJ. I can get in enough conflict on my own under normal circumstances.
    Hmmm. That's a tough one Axel.

    Let's go with see Post #9. Very funny comeback to KJs put down to you.

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    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post

    Bosox clearly struggles with comprehension and creative writing skills. He probably had a difficult time in middle and high school. This is usually when the ability to interpret social and emotional cues and nonliteral phrases become important for learning. Although highly intelligent, little things, like Post Quick Reply are very confusing to this type of syndrome.

    Listen, lady, you are not exactly a genius in selecting meaningful men in your life.

  20. #20
    So in catching up with some forum reading, including forums I now only occasionally read, I was reading the thread where the member known as Zee on several BJ forums, was banned from Colin's blackjack apprentice forum. Since BJA is a paid membership, Colin refunded Zee's membership.

    I have a point to make concerning a member here, but before I do, I want to stray just a bit and say, I am not a huge fan of Colin or the BJ apprentice guys, not the guys personally, but the concept. I have no problem with former or active players writing books, but I don't think we need to be "recruiting" new players (competition). It is one thing to advise and share experiences with enthusiasts who have found this community, but the concept of "recruiting" and a "boot camp" churning out new players is not good for any of us active players. I have never not once visited the site, nor participated because of my views.

    Ok, now back to my point. In reading that this Zee person was banned at BJ apprentice it was discussed that he becomes the second person ever banned at BJA. I mean this is a money-making proposition that makes money off memberships, so it goes without saying it becomes pretty hard to get banned and have them refuse your money.

    So who was the other person banned at this forum/money making/recruiting group? Why our very own Bob21, posting under whatever name he used there. So why was 'our' Bob21 banned at BJ apprentice? Repeated views supporting the casino industry. NO surprise! Same exact M.O. as here and everywhere else he has participated. Bob21 is a casino industry supporter. Likely works for a casino or has family or friends that do. And as such has anti-AP views and positions, despite his claims that he is a recreational card counter. This claim is likely cover for his positions and views.

    Now it is OK, for Casino personnel to participate on these forums. Some do so openly as a couple at WoV do. I respect that, even though I rarely agree with anything they post or support. Many more casino personnel and/or supporters participate less openly, as Bob21 does. There have been such members at every forum I have ever participated at. I just want to make it known who Bob21 is, and to have people take that into consideration when reading anything he posts. He is a casino guy with an agenda on these forums. Period!

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