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    The Great Sioux Nation. The Video Poker APs. Are these the Noble Redmen? Or are they blood thirsty Savages.

    Are Singer and Mendelson authentic VP hero's or arrogant strategists in too deep? There is a great divide on the subject. I'm troubled.

    I stand in the valley of the Little Big Horn. My eyes look up to the ridge. Wow. There sure are a lot of fuckin' Indians.

    But still, I'm with the 7th Calvary!

    Is there any hope for a cease fire on the subject?

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    "Is there any hope for a cease fire on the subject?"

    No.

    Mr Pete, you have to ask yourself this following question:

    Why does Rob, and Alan both run for the exits the times when they are up $6.25 each?
    Last edited by BoSox; 03-16-2019 at 05:45 PM.

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    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post
    The Great Sioux Nation. The Video Poker APs. Are these the Noble Redmen? Or are they blood thirsty Savages.

    Are Singer and Mendelson authentic VP hero's or arrogant strategists in too deep? There is a great divide on the subject. I'm troubled.

    I stand in the valley of the Little Big Horn. My eyes look up to the ridge. Wow. There sure are a lot of fuckin' Indians.

    But still, I'm with the 7th Calvary!

    Is there any hope for a cease fire on the subject?
    Pete, Argentino never ceases fire. Never.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Another Great Thread about Las Vegas and how to go about gambling inside of the Casinos!

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    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post
    The Great Sioux Nation. The Video Poker APs. Are these the Noble Redmen? Or are they blood thirsty Savages.

    Are Singer and Mendelson authentic VP hero's or arrogant strategists in too deep? There is a great divide on the subject. I'm troubled.

    I stand in the valley of the Little Big Horn. My eyes look up to the ridge. Wow. There sure are a lot of fuckin' Indians.

    But still, I'm with the 7th Calvary!

    Is there any hope for a cease fire on the subject?
    Nope. I just play his strategy ,(modified to suit me) and don't even post about it anymore because they can't keep their mouths shut about those who disagree. Since I don't win enormous amounts like some here it doesn't matter to me what happens, as I'm enjoying the way I play. Both are dickheads when it comes to getting along with others.

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    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post
    The Great Sioux Nation. The Video Poker APs. Are these the Noble Redmen? Or are they blood thirsty Savages.

    Are Singer and Mendelson authentic VP hero's or arrogant strategists in too deep? There is a great divide on the subject. I'm troubled.

    I stand in the valley of the Little Big Horn. My eyes look up to the ridge. Wow. There sure are a lot of fuckin' Indians.

    But still, I'm with the 7th Calvary!

    Is there any hope for a cease fire on the subject?
    Nope. I just play his strategy ,(modified to suit me) and don't even post about it anymore because they can't keep their mouths shut about those who disagree. Since I don't win enormous amounts like some here it doesn't matter to me what happens, as I'm enjoying the way I play. Both are dickheads when it comes to getting along with others.
    Slingshot, I hear you. I haven't been here too long but I've read plenty of past posts. Lots of hate on both sides. However, so far I'm able to put the nasty words aside. I only see the actual words and arguments pro and con. Singer makes the most sense to me. Just my point of view, I don't care to argue about it.

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    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post
    The Great Sioux Nation. The Video Poker APs. Are these the Noble Redmen? Or are they blood thirsty Savages.

    Are Singer and Mendelson authentic VP hero's or arrogant strategists in too deep? There is a great divide on the subject. I'm troubled.

    I stand in the valley of the Little Big Horn. My eyes look up to the ridge. Wow. There sure are a lot of fuckin' Indians.

    But still, I'm with the 7th Calvary!

    Is there any hope for a cease fire on the subject?
    Nope. I just play his strategy ,(modified to suit me) and don't even post about it anymore because they can't keep their mouths shut about those who disagree. Since I don't win enormous amounts like some here it doesn't matter to me what happens, as I'm enjoying the way I play. Both are dickheads when it comes to getting along with others.
    Slingshot, I hear you. I haven't been here too long but I've read plenty of past posts. Lots of hate on both sides. However, so far I'm able to put the nasty words aside. I only see the actual words and arguments pro and con. Singer makes the most sense to me. Just my point of view, I don't care to argue about it.
    My 2¢- NO strategy is 100%. But when a strategy gives one so many opportunities and options AND one has strong discipline (harder than one thinks) and one of the chief tenets of the strategy is quitting when ahead a reasonable amount and opponents make fun of that- more power to them. Let'em keep filling the machines. The trolling pro and con mean nothing to me.

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    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post

    Nope. I just play his strategy ,(modified to suit me) and don't even post about it anymore because they can't keep their mouths shut about those who disagree. Since I don't win enormous amounts like some here it doesn't matter to me what happens, as I'm enjoying the way I play. Both are dickheads when it comes to getting along with others.
    Slingshot, I hear you. I haven't been here too long but I've read plenty of past posts. Lots of hate on both sides. However, so far I'm able to put the nasty words aside. I only see the actual words and arguments pro and con. Singer makes the most sense to me. Just my point of view, I don't care to argue about it.
    My 2¢- NO strategy is 100%. But when a strategy gives one so many opportunities and options AND one has strong discipline (harder than one thinks) and one of the chief tenets of the strategy is quitting when ahead a reasonable amount and opponents make fun of that- more power to them. Let'em keep filling the machines. The trolling pro and con mean nothing to me.
    Here's to the voodoo gamblers. Gonna stick a pin in it. Negative games beget negative longterm results and it don't matter how many pins you stick in it. Don't forget to tag the building.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Slingshot says-My 2¢- NO strategy is 100%. But when a strategy gives one so many opportunities and options AND one has strong discipline (harder than one thinks) and one of the chief tenets of the strategy is quitting when ahead a reasonable amount and opponents make fun of that- more power to them. Let'em keep filling the machines. The trolling pro and con mean nothing to me.


    Nicely said. Ever read his book? I got it a few days ago. He doesn't promise 100% results. The principals he advises when you play are the key. As you say. I think new players would benefit when they play if they gave more weight to a laminated card of some simple principals instead of a laminated card of perfect play.

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    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post
    Nicely said. Ever read his book? I got it a few days ago. He doesn't promise 100% results. The principals he advises when you play are the key. As you say. I think new players would benefit when they play if they gave more weight to a laminated card of some simple principals instead of a laminated card of perfect play.
    Who's book? Who are we talking about here?

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post

    Slingshot, I hear you. I haven't been here too long but I've read plenty of past posts. Lots of hate on both sides. However, so far I'm able to put the nasty words aside. I only see the actual words and arguments pro and con. Singer makes the most sense to me. Just my point of view, I don't care to argue about it.
    My 2¢- NO strategy is 100%. But when a strategy gives one so many opportunities and options AND one has strong discipline (harder than one thinks) and one of the chief tenets of the strategy is quitting when ahead a reasonable amount and opponents make fun of that- more power to them. Let'em keep filling the machines. The trolling pro and con mean nothing to me.
    Here's to the voodoo gamblers. Gonna stick a pin in it. Negative games beget negative longterm results and it don't matter how many pins you stick in it. Don't forget to tag the building.
    Mickey, his post is just a troll post looking for a reaction. Don't give it to him.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post
    Nicely said. Ever read his book? I got it a few days ago. He doesn't promise 100% results. The principals he advises when you play are the key. As you say. I think new players would benefit when they play if they gave more weight to a laminated card of some simple principals instead of a laminated card of perfect play.
    Who's book? Who are we talking about here?
    Probably one of Singer's garbage books.

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    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post
    Nicely said. Ever read his book? I got it a few days ago. He doesn't promise 100% results. The principals he advises when you play are the key. As you say. I think new players would benefit when they play if they gave more weight to a laminated card of some simple principals instead of a laminated card of perfect play.
    Who's book? Who are we talking about here?
    Probably one of Singer's garbage books.
    This is what I am trying to get to the bottom of. Was Pahrump Pete referring to Rob Singer strategy and book?

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    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post
    The Great Sioux Nation. The Video Poker APs. Are these the Noble Redmen? Or are they blood thirsty Savages.

    Are Singer and Mendelson authentic VP hero's or arrogant strategists in too deep? There is a great divide on the subject. I'm troubled.

    I stand in the valley of the Little Big Horn. My eyes look up to the ridge. Wow. There sure are a lot of fuckin' Indians.

    But still, I'm with the 7th Calvary!

    Is there any hope for a cease fire on the subject?
    Hey, Pete. Did you live or used to live in a trailer court in Pahrump? That is, until your RV got repossessed for non-payment?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Hey, Pete. Did you live or used to live in a trailer court in Pahrump? That is, until your RV got repossessed for non-payment?
    I had the same thought upon seeing Pahrump Pete's handle for the first time. And I have to say the subject matter of most of his posts has done little to calm that suspicion. Someone else PMed me that they though it might be someone else. You might have received that PM as well MC. The reason given had some validity to that as well.

    I mean to be honest, I saw a lot of members signing up in the early part of this year and some of the handles just have an odd ring to them. I mentioned this a bit ago, thinking Dan might have a comment as to why. I even inquired if he was advertising somewhere that might explain all these new sign-ups. I got no response from Dan as I usually don't.

    All I can say is I would hope that Dan is checking IP addresses, because it just isn't fair if he is allowing sock puppets for the purpose of some member with zero credibility attempting to build some. Unfortunately based on Dan's interest in this forum and the time he puts into it, I have little confidence he is doing anything like that to protect integrity. Maybe occasionally when he is asked directly. I guess time will tell.

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    Originally Posted by pahrump pete View Post
    Slingshot says-My 2¢- NO strategy is 100%. But when a strategy gives one so many opportunities and options AND one has strong discipline (harder than one thinks) and one of the chief tenets of the strategy is quitting when ahead a reasonable amount and opponents make fun of that- more power to them. Let'em keep filling the machines. The trolling pro and con mean nothing to me.


    Nicely said. Ever read his book? I got it a few days ago. He doesn't promise 100% results. The principals he advises when you play are the key. As you say. I think new players would benefit when they play if they gave more weight to a laminated card of some simple principals instead of a laminated card of perfect play.
    My apologies for getting this started. I followed his website for 6-7 years and emailed him quite a bit. I also played during this time and got to experience all I could glean. Later, on Alan's forum I found my understanding of what he was saying was a little off. Then one day everything kinda clicked and I got what he was saying- just to answer your question. I better get off here as I feel the onslaught. All I will say is keep an open mind- and good LUCK!

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    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    I better get off here as I feel the onslaught. All I will say is keep an open mind- and good LUCK!
    I am sure it seems like an onslaught to you. I am sorry about that. But that is because the math doesn't add up to those of us that believe in Math. And "your" guy refuses to answer or account for that. When someone raises a question he immediately starts some sort of personal attack rant, for the obvious purpose of deflecting or changing the subject. BTW, this is a common troll tactic.

    So trying to keep and open mind, and change the usual discourse, can I ask you, in your years of following this strategy, what are your results? Have you made the buckets of money that Singer claimed he did? Have you made any kind of steady profits? I am not challenging you to prove anything. I am asking you for honest results.

    There are people on these forums like my friend Bosox that doesn't like it when I talk results, but it matters. At the very least a persons results have to match up with possibilities in regards to the math.

    So I will leave it at that to start. AND I was going to ask these same questions of Pahrump Pete if he confirmed that he was referencing Singer's "system" or methodology. So Pahrump Pete, feel free to share your experiences as well. I truly am interested.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    I better get off here as I feel the onslaught. All I will say is keep an open mind- and good LUCK!
    I am sure it seems like an onslaught to you. I am sorry about that. But that is because the math doesn't add up to those of us that believe in Math. And "your" guy refuses to answer or account for that. When someone raises a question he immediately starts some sort of personal attack rant, for the obvious purpose of deflecting or changing the subject. BTW, this is a common troll tactic.

    So trying to keep and open mind, and change the usual discourse, can I ask you, in your years of following this strategy, what are your results? Have you made the buckets of money that Singer claimed he did? Have you made any kind of steady profits? I am not challenging you to prove anything. I am asking you for honest results.

    There are people on these forums like my friend Bosox that doesn't like it when I talk results, but it matters. At the very least a persons results have to match up with possibilities in regards to the math.

    So I will leave it at that to start. AND I was going to ask these same questions of Pahrump Pete if he confirmed that he was referencing Singer's "system" or methodology. So Pahrump Pete, feel free to share your experiences as well. I truly am interested.
    I can honestly say if I'd had the discipline to STOP whenever I was $100+ I would have very FEW losing days. Buckets of money? I go up in denominations from 5-25¢ while he went up 5 or more STARTING at $1's. So, win like him? Are you serious? Just because he's an asshole in public relations doesn't negate his methods. That's all I have to say.

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    Slingshot, "If only I had stopped when I was ahead" is a statement heard in every casino hundreds of times a day. Every losing player says that.

    But anyway, I want to clarify what you are saying. I understand you play lower limits, but you are saying that proportionally, you win the same as Singer claims. That if you were playing higher limits you would have made buckets of money? I need to clarify this before anything else.

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    I have another question for you guys claiming to be playing and winning using Singer's VP strategy.

    Did you read his farewell post yesterday afternoon? I waited to bring this up because I wanted to see who else would mention it. I am not going to link to it because I refuse to link to him or anything he says. But it is in the AP's wrongly prosecuted thread.

    By my reading of it this person posting as Rob Singer, realizing he has now lost all credibility with his VP claims, is now trying out a new tactic. I'll let everyone read for themselves and decide for themselves exactly what he was saying, but this was my take.

    He said something to the effect that his whole existence on these forums and claims for the last 10 years was basically an act. He specifically pointed out that in real life he is not the loud mouth hater that he personifies online. He went on to allude to the reason he does that and has made all these false claims is because he is a real AP, something he always claims he is not and has to protect his "golden goose".

    I invite people to read the post and tell me if they interpret his statement differently because I don't see any other interpretation. I also would like to hear responses from the guys using his system, to what I believe is him stating that this "system" is what we all knew all along....a bunch of baloney.

    I mean frankly this guy is such a troll, I believe nothing he says anymore. Even this is probably just throwing mud at the wall and seeing what people might believe. But I have to say, it is the first thing he has said, or that I interpreted that way, that made even a little bit of sense.

    Add on: My guess is that his intention is that after this time out that he announced because he is "traveling" he will re-emerge claiming to be the ultimate AP, because he was able to deflect everyone away from his AP activities and protect his games. I don't buy that either but I think that is where he is or was heading (maybe I have derailed that now)
    Last edited by kewlJ; 03-18-2019 at 11:12 PM.

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