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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Sybil/Moses/UCFX/Tatertot/homoses and who ever else is in there....you grow more mental every day....every hour. Get some help. Seriously, seek help. At this point, I don't even feel it is right to return your trolling.
    Sounds to me like your running your mouth and running away at same time.
    Last edited by UCFX; 03-31-2019 at 10:53 AM.

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post

    Mickey, if you’re going to call casinos parasites then you should call the IRS parasites. Both entities primary purpose is to generate revenue for governments. The IRS is the mandatory tax program, while casinos and lotteries are the government’s voluntary tax program. In case you didn’t notice, Governments need tax revenue to operate.

    This is why APs are parasites on the economy. They are attacking the government’s voluntary tax program which is taking revenue away from state and local governments.

    Our economy would be better off if all APs would get a real job and go to casinos and play in a negative EV way, like most people. This would contribute more to our state and local governments. APs don’t need to do this because it’s legal to be an AP but no AP should ever think they're doing anything that’s benefiting anybody, including the government.
    Wait a minute Bob. This sounds you are saying the government can manage our money more effeciently than we can ourselves. I thought you didnt like liberalism. The idea that the government should have our money because they will us it better than we will is about as liberal as you can get. Most conservatives and even a large number of otherwise liberals agree that they would prefer to allocate their own money and not have the government do it and that the government is already too big and intrudes into citizens lives too much.

    AP - Win money. Buys food, clothes, cars, rent, ect. Provides jobs and stimulates the economy

    Goverment - Gets Money. - Huge Pensions, Spy on US citizens while ignoring warnings from flight schools that arab men want to learn to fly but dont need to know how to take off or land, commission $10Mill study of dust mites, fund a recreation of the play Hamlet with a cast of dogs (They really did this google it) Sieze peoples cash through civil asset forfiture with no evidence of a crime, etc, etc, etc

    Thanks but I think the less money the government has the better
    I agree DGenBen. I think our government takes way too much of our money. I don’t even agree with Social Security. I think we should manage our own money for retirement; it should not be the function of the government.

    I’m a conservative and I think money is better in the hands of an individual than the government. The government obviously needs some money to operate.

    I was only pointing out what the function of the casino is. It is primarily a voluntary tax program for the government. By removing money from this program (casinos), you’re doing nothing to help the economy or society or the government.

    An AP is no different then a welfare recipient. The welfare person gets a check directly from the government for doing nothing, while an AP siphons off money from our government’s voluntary tax centers (casinos) for doing nothing of value for society.

    Both the welfare recipient and an AP are NOT doing anything illegal, but they also aren’t doing anything of value, meaning nothing to benefit the economy or society. Yes, they both spend money but it’s really the government’s money or someone else’s money. They haven’t earned the money by doing anything of value for the economy or society.

    I can tell you’re struggling to understand that point.
    They both spend money but its really the governments money or someone else's money? Hows that? AP goes to a casino, plays the game by the rules, is still risking his money because even if playing with advantage can still get unlucky and lose but if he wins its the goverment or someone else's money? Nonsense

    Youve mentioned before that you are a small stakes BJ AP. So when you win do you give the money back since it is not your money?

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post

    Wait a minute Bob. This sounds you are saying the government can manage our money more effeciently than we can ourselves. I thought you didnt like liberalism. The idea that the government should have our money because they will us it better than we will is about as liberal as you can get. Most conservatives and even a large number of otherwise liberals agree that they would prefer to allocate their own money and not have the government do it and that the government is already too big and intrudes into citizens lives too much.

    AP - Win money. Buys food, clothes, cars, rent, ect. Provides jobs and stimulates the economy

    Goverment - Gets Money. - Huge Pensions, Spy on US citizens while ignoring warnings from flight schools that arab men want to learn to fly but dont need to know how to take off or land, commission $10Mill study of dust mites, fund a recreation of the play Hamlet with a cast of dogs (They really did this google it) Sieze peoples cash through civil asset forfiture with no evidence of a crime, etc, etc, etc

    Thanks but I think the less money the government has the better
    I agree DGenBen. I think our government takes way too much of our money. I don’t even agree with Social Security. I think we should manage our own money for retirement; it should not be the function of the government.

    I’m a conservative and I think money is better in the hands of an individual than the government. The government obviously needs some money to operate.

    I was only pointing out what the function of the casino is. It is primarily a voluntary tax program for the government. By removing money from this program (casinos), you’re doing nothing to help the economy or society or the government.

    An AP is no different then a welfare recipient. The welfare person gets a check directly from the government for doing nothing, while an AP siphons off money from our government’s voluntary tax centers (casinos) for doing nothing of value for society.

    Both the welfare recipient and an AP are NOT doing anything illegal, but they also aren’t doing anything of value, meaning nothing to benefit the economy or society. Yes, they both spend money but it’s really the government’s money or someone else’s money. They haven’t earned the money by doing anything of value for the economy or society.

    I can tell you’re struggling to understand that point.
    They both spend money but its really the governments money or someone else's money? Hows that? AP goes to a casino, plays the game by the rules, is still risking his money because even if playing with advantage can still get unlucky and lose but if he wins its the goverment or someone else's money? Nonsense

    Youve mentioned before that you are a small stakes BJ AP. So when you win do you give the money back since it is not your money?
    Hey, I never said what an AP is doing is wrong. I do it too...you're right. I can see you’re getting emotional over this. Please don’t.

    I’m only pointing out why a casino exists. That is my main point. Most people don’t know that the casino’s primary purpose is to raise revenue for the government. That’s why state and local governments approve casinos. That’s my point.

    If you’re smart enough to siphon money from a casino more power to you. Like you said, I’m trying to do it too. But that doesn’t mean I don’t understand why casinos exist. Since I pay a lot of taxes from my full time job, I don’t feel too bad going to our government’s voluntary tax centers (casinos) to try to get some of it back. LOL

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Sybil/Moses/UCFX/Tatertot/homoses and who ever else is in there....you grow more mental every day....every hour. Get some help. Seriously, seek help. At this point, I don't even feel it is right to return your trolling.
    Sounds to me like your running your mouth and running away at same time.

    UCFX maybe you are not Moses, as his response to the same KJ quote on ZZ was this:


    "...And you keep losing everyday. It's just a matter of time until someone outs you. You little fantasy world is coming to an end and that's when the real world will begin."


    If the real world had to start today for KJ at least he has two fallbacks to rely on. First he has over a million dollars in assets and 2nd he can always move to Reno Nevada to continue the real world dream.

  5. #25
    Bob. Translation please?

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Bob. Translation please?
    That’s a good one UCFX...made me laugh.

    But seriously folks, if Dan is going to continue to let Bosox post, then he should at least hire a translator so the rest of us can understand what he's saying. Lol

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post

    Ok, I’ll grant you what you’re saying is correct. What can our society, which is based on freedom, do about it? The short answer is nothing, other than make these businesses illegal. This is the ONLY way we can protect the weaker members of our society from the destructive nature of excessive drinking, smoking, fast food, gambling, etc. Anything in excess will usually lead to a person’s downfall one way or another.

    The Bahamas have an interesting way of dealing with the problems of casinos. Only tourist (non-Bahamian residences) are allowed to go into a casino. It’s against the law for Bahamian citizens to gamble in a casino. This way the government can collect the revenue from casinos, without them harming its citizens.

    The problem is in our country (built on freedom) there is no way to exclude a certain group of people from a casinos. In our country, you can not have a law that allows certain people in a casino and not others. This is why the only solution is to make casinos illegal, and many states and local areas have done just that. I live in a state with a lot of casinos and they have tried to come into my area but they are always voted down by the citizens. I’m proud to be one of them.

    That’s why I will never blame the casinos for the byproducts (bankruptcies, crime, etc) that come with casinos. Everybody knows this will happen no matter how many safeguards a community tries to put in place. The group responsible for allowing casinos into our cummunities is our politicians, which is really us since we are self governing.

    I think this is why APs struggle with their position. They are the ONLY group of people who make money off a legal business without providing any value to society. Yes, what we are doing is legal, but it’s not contributing anything to society. The argument you’ll see some make that they use the money they make to buy things which helps the economy is the same one liberals use to justify welfare. When the government gives money to people on welfare, these people also spend that money to help economic activity. If that’s all it took to help an economy, then governments should just give all its citizens money and no one would have to work. I think we can all see that won’t work, just look at Greece.

    In the movie “Holly Rollers”, a documentary about church going APs, it had a side story of one member who struggled with what he was doing. It wasn’t because he thought gambling was wrong per say...it was because he saw no value in it. He saw that counting cards and winning money provided NO value to society. During the movie, he was constantly looking for verses in the Bible to try to justify his actions...and he obviously couldn’t find any. By the end of the movie, he quite the “church team” because he saw NO value in what he was doing, and he wanted his life to have value. This is the dilemma I think all APs face and one reason most of them are bitter nasty people. They are making money but their life has no value...at least, not from a work standpoint. They are kind of like welfare recipients.

    I think this is also why most APs won’t acknowledge the casino’s business model...providing negative EV games for the purpose of entertainment. If they did, then they would be admiting casinos are doing nothing wrong, and that would make APs feel worse about themselves.

    Just something to think about. And no, I’m not a casino employee. I’m a part time AP that has spent time thinking about what I do.
    Well, if I'm a parasite....I'm a small parasite on a big parasite. Casinos strip mine the economy. I strip mine the casinos. You don't like it I don't give a fuck. You are obviously a casino employee. That makes you one of the little parasites that work for the big parasite. We had a long time poster, Mr. V, that finally quit posting. He always described himself as a recreational gambler. But he finally admitted he had a problem. He wants to quit going to casinos. He quit the forum in order to not be influenced by all the gambling talk. That's the entertainment you PARASITES provide. You make a living off of other people's misery. I love taking money from you PARASITES.
    Mickey, if you’re going to call casinos parasites then you should call the IRS parasites. Both entities primary purpose is to generate revenue for governments. The IRS is the mandatory tax program, while casinos and lotteries are the government’s voluntary tax program. In case you didn’t notice, Governments need tax revenue to operate.

    This is why APs are parasites on the economy. They are attacking the government’s voluntary tax program which is taking revenue away from state and local governments.

    Our economy would be better off if all APs would get a real job and go to casinos and play in a negative EV way, like most people. This would contribute more to our state and local governments. APs don’t need to do this because it’s legal to be an AP but no AP should ever think they're doing anything that’s benefiting anybody, including the government.
    The taxes that states are getting is a tax on the poor people that dump their money in the casinos. By your logic the casinos should also shut down because they are parasites. And people like you that work for them and help them take the money of degenerate, compulsive gamblers are also parasites.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    KJ, Bob21 is Rarey Bird33 over at big jerr's place.
    Good job Bobo, the forum defective, you've outed me to a casino spy, Kj. The reason I have different handles on different sites is to try to stay undetected.

    Don’t you know there are casino personnel lurking on this sites? By having different handles, it helps me be less noticeable to the casino lurkers. And I can still get my message across to the APs who learn from my experiences.

    Part of being an AP is staying under the radar, and not being detected by casino lurkers. My multiple handles are an advanced form of camouflage. It’s something I will teach when I put together my Boot Camp for APs program. It will be a very advanced program, and I will also have a short course on reading comprehension since this seems to be a weak spot within the AP community.
    The hundred posts you make a day really helps you to go unnoticed.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post

    Mickey, if you’re going to call casinos parasites then you should call the IRS parasites. Both entities primary purpose is to generate revenue for governments. The IRS is the mandatory tax program, while casinos and lotteries are the government’s voluntary tax program. In case you didn’t notice, Governments need tax revenue to operate.

    This is why APs are parasites on the economy. They are attacking the government’s voluntary tax program which is taking revenue away from state and local governments.

    Our economy would be better off if all APs would get a real job and go to casinos and play in a negative EV way, like most people. This would contribute more to our state and local governments. APs don’t need to do this because it’s legal to be an AP but no AP should ever think they're doing anything that’s benefiting anybody, including the government.
    Wait a minute Bob. This sounds you are saying the government can manage our money more effeciently than we can ourselves. I thought you didnt like liberalism. The idea that the government should have our money because they will us it better than we will is about as liberal as you can get. Most conservatives and even a large number of otherwise liberals agree that they would prefer to allocate their own money and not have the government do it and that the government is already too big and intrudes into citizens lives too much.

    AP - Win money. Buys food, clothes, cars, rent, ect. Provides jobs and stimulates the economy

    Goverment - Gets Money. - Huge Pensions, Spy on US citizens while ignoring warnings from flight schools that arab men want to learn to fly but dont need to know how to take off or land, commission $10Mill study of dust mites, fund a recreation of the play Hamlet with a cast of dogs (They really did this google it) Sieze peoples cash through civil asset forfiture with no evidence of a crime, etc, etc, etc

    Thanks but I think the less money the government has the better
    I agree DGenBen. I think our government takes way too much of our money. I don’t even agree with Social Security. I think we should manage our own money for retirement; it should not be the function of the government.

    I’m a conservative and I think money is better in the hands of an individual than the government. The government obviously needs some money to operate.

    I was only pointing out what the function of the casino is. It is primarily a voluntary tax program for the government. By removing money from this program (casinos), you’re doing nothing to help the economy or society or the government.

    An AP is no different then a welfare recipient. The welfare person gets a check directly from the government for doing nothing, while an AP siphons off money from our government’s voluntary tax centers (casinos) for doing nothing of value for society.

    Both the welfare recipient and an AP are NOT doing anything illegal, but they also aren’t doing anything of value, meaning nothing to benefit the economy or society. Yes, they both spend money but it’s really the government’s money or someone else’s money. They haven’t earned the money by doing anything of value for the economy or society.

    I can tell you’re struggling to understand that point.
    You need to put all this stuff in your advertising for students in your AP boot camp. Something like "I'm going to teach you how to AP but AP's are parasites." Great, effective advertising.

    BTW, you are to stupid to be an AP so you definitely don't have anything to teach.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post

    I agree DGenBen. I think our government takes way too much of our money. I don’t even agree with Social Security. I think we should manage our own money for retirement; it should not be the function of the government.

    I’m a conservative and I think money is better in the hands of an individual than the government. The government obviously needs some money to operate.

    I was only pointing out what the function of the casino is. It is primarily a voluntary tax program for the government. By removing money from this program (casinos), you’re doing nothing to help the economy or society or the government.

    An AP is no different then a welfare recipient. The welfare person gets a check directly from the government for doing nothing, while an AP siphons off money from our government’s voluntary tax centers (casinos) for doing nothing of value for society.

    Both the welfare recipient and an AP are NOT doing anything illegal, but they also aren’t doing anything of value, meaning nothing to benefit the economy or society. Yes, they both spend money but it’s really the government’s money or someone else’s money. They haven’t earned the money by doing anything of value for the economy or society.

    I can tell you’re struggling to understand that point.
    They both spend money but its really the governments money or someone else's money? Hows that? AP goes to a casino, plays the game by the rules, is still risking his money because even if playing with advantage can still get unlucky and lose but if he wins its the goverment or someone else's money? Nonsense

    Youve mentioned before that you are a small stakes BJ AP. So when you win do you give the money back since it is not your money?
    Hey, I never said what an AP is doing is wrong. I do it too...you're right. I can see you’re getting emotional over this. Please don’t.

    I’m only pointing out why a casino exists. That is my main point. Most people don’t know that the casino’s primary purpose is to raise revenue for the government. That’s why state and local governments approve casinos. That’s my point.

    If you’re smart enough to siphon money from a casino more power to you. Like you said, I’m trying to do it too. But that doesn’t mean I don’t understand why casinos exist. Since I pay a lot of taxes from my full time job, I don’t feel too bad going to our government’s voluntary tax centers (casinos) to try to get some of it back. LOL
    Ok Bob lol. I see your game now you do the same thing virtually everytime. You start with a ridiculous statement "Money APs win isnt theirs" Then when someone calls you on it you insult them and instead of trying to defend what you said which you can't you change the subject and say you were saying something else. Your favorite statment is "Hey I never said....." when it was ezactly what you said.

    Your just trying to get a rise out of folks. Doesnt bother me its actuallty kind of entertaining. Just wonder what motivates a person to behave like you.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post

    They both spend money but its really the governments money or someone else's money? Hows that? AP goes to a casino, plays the game by the rules, is still risking his money because even if playing with advantage can still get unlucky and lose but if he wins its the goverment or someone else's money? Nonsense

    Youve mentioned before that you are a small stakes BJ AP. So when you win do you give the money back since it is not your money?
    Hey, I never said what an AP is doing is wrong. I do it too...you're right. I can see you’re getting emotional over this. Please don’t.

    I’m only pointing out why a casino exists. That is my main point. Most people don’t know that the casino’s primary purpose is to raise revenue for the government. That’s why state and local governments approve casinos. That’s my point.

    If you’re smart enough to siphon money from a casino more power to you. Like you said, I’m trying to do it too. But that doesn’t mean I don’t understand why casinos exist. Since I pay a lot of taxes from my full time job, I don’t feel too bad going to our government’s voluntary tax centers (casinos) to try to get some of it back. LOL
    Ok Bob lol. I see your game now you do the same thing virtually everytime. You start with a ridiculous statement "Money APs win isnt theirs" Then when someone calls you on it you insult them and instead of trying to defend what you said which you can't you change the subject and say you were saying something else. Your favorite statment is "Hey I never said....." when it was ezactly what you said.

    Your just trying to get a rise out of folks. Doesnt bother me its actuallty kind of entertaining. Just wonder what motivates a person to behave like you.
    DBenGen, I never said “APs win isn't theirs”. I went back and read my posts and I couldn’t find any place I said that. Of course an APs win is there’s. Where did you come up with that one. You’re a typical liberal making up quotes.

    Look I can tell you aren’t going to get the point I’m making. You appear to be a little slow, probably because you’ve spent too much time in a casino.

    When I have my Bootcamp, you’ll need to attend, because I’ll have a short course on reading comprehension. I can tell this is something you, along with most APs, struggle with....reading comprehension.

  12. #32
    "Both the welfare recipient and an AP are NOT doing anything illegal, but they also aren’t doing anything of value, meaning nothing to benefit the economy or society. Yes, they both spend money but it’s really the government’s money or someone else’s money."

    Heres your quote when you said they both spend money but its really the governments money or someone else money then yes you got me not verbatium but what is the difference you are still saying in so many words that the money APs make is not thiers. I think you are actually a liberal yourself trying to troll conservatives. No conservative would prefer the government has its money or hate capitalism as much as you. You actually sound more like a communist than even a liberal by implying that every person has to directly add value to the greater good. Free market capitalism isnt always fair or pretty but it works better than any other system on earth. If you dont like it you should move to North Korea or Cuba. No APs there lol.

  13. #33
    I'm tired of wasting time on this fool, boob21. So I'm blocking him.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    "Both the welfare recipient and an AP are NOT doing anything illegal, but they also aren’t doing anything of value, meaning nothing to benefit the economy or society. Yes, they both spend money but it’s really the government’s money or someone else’s money."

    Heres your quote when you said they both spend money but its really the governments money or someone else money then yes you got me not verbatium but what is the difference you are still saying in so many words that the money APs make is not thiers. I think you are actually a liberal yourself trying to troll conservatives. No conservative would prefer the government has its money or hate capitalism as much as you. You actually sound more like a communist than even a liberal by implying that every person has to directly add value to the greater good. Free market capitalism isnt always fair or pretty but it works better than any other system on earth. If you dont like it you should move to North Korea or Cuba. No APs there lol.
    Okay Bosox, i’ll give you that one. You got me. I phrased that paragraph awkwardly since I was speaking into my phone as I was driving. I should’ve said the money in a casino is meant for the government or somebody running or owning the casino. You are right, the money is not the governments money or someone else’s money.

    But my main point still stands. An AP brings no value to society when they win money from the casino. The only entity bringing value in a casino is the casino. Because the only value that is occurring is entertainment.

    APs and welfare recipients are similar in that neither party brings value to society in the way they get their money. That’s the way I should’ve phrased it. And I stand by that statement. Both an AP and welfare recipient can bring value to society by how they invest and spend their money. I agree with you on that point.

    Thanks for getting that clarified. I’ll review my post more closely before I send them next time.

    Good discussion. The more I debate this with you Bosox, the more I can see my views are correct

  15. #35
    Bob, did you just hit a telephone pole or something? Otherwise was your last post addressing DGenBen or me, or the both of us?
    Last edited by BoSox; 03-31-2019 at 08:07 PM.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    "Both the welfare recipient and an AP are NOT doing anything illegal, but they also aren’t doing anything of value, meaning nothing to benefit the economy or society. Yes, they both spend money but it’s really the government’s money or someone else’s money."

    Heres your quote when you said they both spend money but its really the governments money or someone else money then yes you got me not verbatium but what is the difference you are still saying in so many words that the money APs make is not thiers. I think you are actually a liberal yourself trying to troll conservatives. No conservative would prefer the government has its money or hate capitalism as much as you. You actually sound more like a communist than even a liberal by implying that every person has to directly add value to the greater good. Free market capitalism isnt always fair or pretty but it works better than any other system on earth. If you dont like it you should move to North Korea or Cuba. No APs there lol.
    Okay Bosox, i’ll give you that one. You got me. I phrased that paragraph awkwardly since I was speaking into my phone as I was driving. I should’ve said the money in a casino is meant for the government or somebody running or owning the casino. You are right, the money is not the governments money or someone else’s money.

    But my main point still stands. An AP brings no value to society when they win money from the casino. The only entity bringing value in a casino is the casino. Because the only value that is occurring is entertainment.

    APs and welfare recipients are similar in that neither party brings value to society in the way they get their money. That’s the way I should’ve phrased it. And I stand by that statement. Both an AP and welfare recipient can bring value to society by how they invest and spend their money. I agree with you on that point.

    Thanks for getting that clarified. I’ll review my post more closely before I send them next time.

    Good discussion. The more I debate this with you Bosox, the more I can see my views are correct
    Lol! Pointless to discuss anything with you. Once you are proven wrong you claim you misspoke. Or you argue semantics. You do this over and over again. Im done with you. Have a nice life and best of luck to you with your AP career. I sincerely wish you the best (Also dont read posts and reply while you are driving, you may end up hurting or killing an innocent person)

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    "Both the welfare recipient and an AP are NOT doing anything illegal, but they also aren’t doing anything of value, meaning nothing to benefit the economy or society. Yes, they both spend money but it’s really the government’s money or someone else’s money."

    Heres your quote when you said they both spend money but its really the governments money or someone else money then yes you got me not verbatium but what is the difference you are still saying in so many words that the money APs make is not thiers. I think you are actually a liberal yourself trying to troll conservatives. No conservative would prefer the government has its money or hate capitalism as much as you. You actually sound more like a communist than even a liberal by implying that every person has to directly add value to the greater good. Free market capitalism isnt always fair or pretty but it works better than any other system on earth. If you dont like it you should move to North Korea or Cuba. No APs there lol.
    Okay Bosox, i’ll give you that one. You got me. I phrased that paragraph awkwardly since I was speaking into my phone as I was driving. I should’ve said the money in a casino is meant for the government or somebody running or owning the casino. You are right, the money is not the governments money or someone else’s money.

    But my main point still stands. An AP brings no value to society when they win money from the casino. The only entity bringing value in a casino is the casino. Because the only value that is occurring is entertainment.

    APs and welfare recipients are similar in that neither party brings value to society in the way they get their money. That’s the way I should’ve phrased it. And I stand by that statement. Both an AP and welfare recipient can bring value to society by how they invest and spend their money. I agree with you on that point.

    Thanks for getting that clarified. I’ll review my post more closely before I send them next time.

    Good discussion. The more I debate this with you Bosox, the more I can see my views are correct
    Lol! Pointless to discuss anything with you. Once you are proven wrong you claim you misspoke. Or you argue semantics. You do this over and over again. Im done with you. Have a nice life and best of luck to you with your AP career. I sincerely wish you the best (Also dont read posts and reply while you are driving, you may end up hurting or killing an innocent person)
    I can see neither you or Bosox understand this. Yeah, I misspoke. I’ll own up to that, but it doesn’t change my bigger point.

    Answer me this question: What value does an AP bring to society when they win money at a casino? You probably won’t be able to answer this question. I’ll give you a hint. The answe is NONE.

    Here’s another question: Name another job that adds no value to society. So far I have not been able to find anyone who can think of another job that adds NO value to society or the economy. If you can, you’ll be the first.

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I'm tired of wasting time on this fool, boob21. So I'm blocking him.
    I think it is time for all of us to follow mickeycrimm's lead on this one. Bob21 is yet another person only here to troll. While I can't seem to convince Dan Druff to get rid of people who's obvious only intention is to contribute negatively to the forum, I can ban suck people as far as I am concerned. I am going to do so with everyone that proves to me their only purpose is to troll.

    And that in itself will reduce my time spent here. Side benefit.

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I'm tired of wasting time on this fool, boob21. So I'm blocking him.
    I think it is time for all of us to follow mickeycrimm's lead on this one. Bob21 is yet another person only here to troll. While I can't seem to convince Dan Druff to get rid of people who's obvious only intention is to contribute negatively to the forum, I can ban suck people as far as I am concerned. I am going to do so with everyone that proves to me their only purpose is to troll.

    And that in itself will reduce my time spent here. Side benefit.
    Please block me as well. I don't want you reading my posts.

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I'm tired of wasting time on this fool, boob21. So I'm blocking him.
    I think it is time for all of us to follow mickeycrimm's lead on this one. Bob21 is yet another person only here to troll. While I can't seem to convince Dan Druff to get rid of people who's obvious only intention is to contribute negatively to the forum, I can ban suck people as far as I am concerned. I am going to do so with everyone that proves to me their only purpose is to troll.

    And that in itself will reduce my time spent here. Side benefit.
    Kj, you have to do what works for you. I get why you and Mickey need to block my posts. You’re both incapable of defending your position, and neither one of you want to grow and expand your knowledge..

    As for me, I will never block you or Mickey’s post. I find them entertaining and I’ve actually learned from both of you. I like Mickey’s posts on slots and it’s something I’ve thought of getting into when I retire.

    As I’ve told you many times, I’m not a liberal. I like to hear opinions that differ than mine. This is how I’ve grown as a person. I’m sorry to hear you don’t like to grow or learn new things. This is probably because you’re a full-time AP and don’t have time to become a more well-rounded person. I wish you the best.

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