Casino’s Mission

[BoSox]

Bob21 wrote:

"Here’s something you and kj and your Bob the lawyer guy that all of you have made into “god like” status need to think about. Don’t you think there has to be some oversight of the Indian casinos if they are sharing revenue with the state. Wouldn’t you think the state is at least auditing their books?"


"As far as Bob, in case you didn’t notice he gets paid for his services. He’s not doing anything out of the goodness or his heart or because he has some higher moral code. He’s basically an “ ambulance chaser “. There are quite a few lawyers out there like Bob. He’s found his niche with the AP crowd and holding casinos hostages over some trivial thing. I’m sure there are some legitimate cases, but I expect a lot of the cases the casino just pay him off to make them go away. He’s become a hero in the AP world since it doesn’t take much to be a hero in their world. Lol"


You are a really disgusting person Bob21!

[mickeycrimm]

Here’s something you and kj and your Bob the lawyer guy that all of you have made into “god like” status need to think about. Don’t you think there has to be some oversight of the Indian casinos if they are sharing revenue with the state. Wouldn’t you think the state is at least auditing their books?

What a surprise! The anti-AP, casino supporter, likely casino employee guy, doesn't like BoB Nersesian, the attorney who has brought the numerous casinos to their knees on behalf of AP's.

Hey kj, I am not an anti-AP. I guess you could call me a “balanced” AP. I am an AP myself. When I see APs make misinformed comments about casinos, I correct them.

There are a lot of APs that don’t know why casinos exists. They think they just appear in communities like weeds. Most APs don’t know they have to get government approval before they can open. Why does the government approve them when they know the downsides that come with them? Because of all the revenue the casinos generate for the state and local governments.

I also point out the casinos business model, which most APs don’t understand or won’t acknowledge. When I say it’s to provide negative EV games for the purpose of entertainment, I almost always get some AP responding by saying “bullshit”. If that’s not their business model, I wish some AP could enlighten me on what it is. So far none have.

As far as Bob, in case you didn’t notice he gets paid for his services. He’s not doing anything out of the goodness or his heart or because he has some higher moral code. He’s basically an “ ambulance chaser “. There are quite a few lawyers out there like Bob. He’s found his niche with the AP crowd and holding casinos hostages over some trivial thing. I’m sure there are some legitimate cases, but I expect a lot of the cases the casino just pay him off to make them go away. He’s become a hero in the AP world since it doesn’t take much to be a hero in their world. Lol

You know nothing about Nersesian. He had to take a cut in pay to take the casino cases. It was always hard to get a lawyer to sue the casinos over these abuse cases. They didn't want them because there was much better money in other type cases. But Nersesian took a dim view of the casinos always getting away with it. He didn't like all the rights being violated. So he took the casino cases even though he could have made much better money on other type cases.

[mickeycrimm]

Big deal. And yes, an interesting story. Thanks for the history lesson. My point is all casinos - indian, non-indian and in between indian - are approved by local and state governments and support local and state governments with revenue. There are no exceptions.

This guy's in as much denial about Indian casinos as Adam Schiff is about the absence of "Russian Collusion".

Again, few if any tribal casinos pay state or local taxes on revenue. Oh....and ALL businesses, large & small, have to be approved by the local govt. regulations.

Wise up.

You’re right Indian casinos don’t pay taxes. They just share their revenue with state and local governments. What’s the difference?

I can tell most people are missing my point about state and local governments approving casinos. Ron said my point was convoluted. There is nothing convoluted about it.

On every gambling forum I’ve been on when I say something to defend casinos, I get the standard clueless AP who attaches a bunch of articles to his post showing me the evils of casinos. You know the standard thing that everybody knows...with casinos, comes increased bankruptcy, crime, etc. I think APs are the only people in the world that don’t know everybody already knows this.

I’ve never questioned this. What I’ve tried to point out is that this is not the casino’s fault. Unless you’re a liberal, you shouldn’t hold a casino accountable for something outside of their control. If you don’t want increased brankrupcies and crime then don’t let casinos come into your community...everybody knows this is a byproduct of casinos. And there’s nothing that can be done about it in a free society.

My point is blame the government for letting casinos in. Don’t blame casinos for doing what their business calls for. Don’t blame casinos for the actions of free individuals that are outside their control.

My guess is most APs probably still won’t understand this since most APs are liberals. Liberals are kind of slow, and like to blame some business for some problem in our society. For example, they blame McDonald’s for fat people.

AP's exercise the the most unfettered form of capitalism that exists in this country.

[Bob21]

What a surprise! The anti-AP, casino supporter, likely casino employee guy, doesn't like BoB Nersesian, the attorney who has brought the numerous casinos to their knees on behalf of AP's.

Hey kj, I am not an anti-AP. I guess you could call me a “balanced” AP. I am an AP myself. When I see APs make misinformed comments about casinos, I correct them.

There are a lot of APs that don’t know why casinos exists. They think they just appear in communities like weeds. Most APs don’t know they have to get government approval before they can open. Why does the government approve them when they know the downsides that come with them? Because of all the revenue the casinos generate for the state and local governments.

I also point out the casinos business model, which most APs don’t understand or won’t acknowledge. When I say it’s to provide negative EV games for the purpose of entertainment, I almost always get some AP responding by saying “bullshit”. If that’s not their business model, I wish some AP could enlighten me on what it is. So far none have.

As far as Bob, in case you didn’t notice he gets paid for his services. He’s not doing anything out of the goodness or his heart or because he has some higher moral code. He’s basically an “ ambulance chaser “. There are quite a few lawyers out there like Bob. He’s found his niche with the AP crowd and holding casinos hostages over some trivial thing. I’m sure there are some legitimate cases, but I expect a lot of the cases the casino just pay him off to make them go away. He’s become a hero in the AP world since it doesn’t take much to be a hero in their world. Lol

You know nothing about Nersesian. He had to take a cut in pay to take the casino cases. It was always hard to get a lawyer to sue the casinos over these abuse cases. They didn't want them because there was much better money in other type cases. But Nersesian took a dim view of the casinos always getting away with it. He didn't like all the rights being violated. So he took the casino cases even though he could have made much better money on other type cases.

That was his story and you guys bought it. Look it might be true but I doubt it. I expect he saw a gullible group of people he could exploit to make some money. All lawyers are looking for their niche and I expect he found his by going after casinos. Some go after the Hotel industry, some the car industry, some oil companies, etc. He choose casinos.

[smurgerburger]

Hey kj, I am not an anti-AP. I guess you could call me a “balanced” AP. I am an AP myself. When I see APs make misinformed comments about casinos, I correct them.

There are a lot of APs that don’t know why casinos exists. They think they just appear in communities like weeds. Most APs don’t know they have to get government approval before they can open. Why does the government approve them when they know the downsides that come with them? Because of all the revenue the casinos generate for the state and local governments.

I also point out the casinos business model, which most APs don’t understand or won’t acknowledge. When I say it’s to provide negative EV games for the purpose of entertainment, I almost always get some AP responding by saying “bullshit”. If that’s not their business model, I wish some AP could enlighten me on what it is. So far none have.

As far as Bob, in case you didn’t notice he gets paid for his services. He’s not doing anything out of the goodness or his heart or because he has some higher moral code. He’s basically an “ ambulance chaser “. There are quite a few lawyers out there like Bob. He’s found his niche with the AP crowd and holding casinos hostages over some trivial thing. I’m sure there are some legitimate cases, but I expect a lot of the cases the casino just pay him off to make them go away. He’s become a hero in the AP world since it doesn’t take much to be a hero in their world. Lol

You know nothing about Nersesian. He had to take a cut in pay to take the casino cases. It was always hard to get a lawyer to sue the casinos over these abuse cases. They didn't want them because there was much better money in other type cases. But Nersesian took a dim view of the casinos always getting away with it. He didn't like all the rights being violated. So he took the casino cases even though he could have made much better money on other type cases.

That was his story and you guys bought it. Look it might be true but I doubt it. I expect he saw a gullible group of people he could exploit to make some money. All lawyers are looking for their niche and I expect he found his by going after casinos. Some go after the Hotel industry, some the car industry, some oil companies, etc. He choose casinos.

What's "gullible" about hiring Bob? He works for a contingency fee. Whether you believe he's a amoral or not he only makes money when his clients make money.

Edit - Nevermind don't bother.

[tableplay]

Gotta be able to fund those cushy government pensions.

Bingo. This is why casinos will continue to proliferate in states which already have casinos and why states like Texas, which don't have them, will probably approve legislation to build some in the not to distant future. Mickey already pointed out what happens to the people in a town when casinos initially hit a new area - so it really makes it clear how much the states cares about their citizenry versus protecting and growing their pensions.

[Alan Mendelson]

APs should not post anything that may be construed as anti casino including that casinos increase crime or banruptcies. After all, should anything happen to limit casino gambling such as removing ATMs from inside cadinos, the APs might lose opportunities for income.

The APs should be singing the praises of the casinos. They're your life.

[Bob21]

Gotta be able to fund those cushy government pensions.

Bingo. This is why casinos will continue to proliferate in states which already have casinos and why states like Texas, which don't have them, will probably approve legislation to build some in the not to distant future. Mickey already pointed out what happens to the people in a town when casinos initially hit a new area - so it really makes it clear how much the states cares about their citizenry versus protecting and growing their pensions.

Double bingo. I think you’re the first one of this forum that gets what I’m saying, and I agree with you about Texas. It’s only a matter of time until Texas legalize casinos. They already have a lottery so it’s just a matter of time before they approve casinos.

This has been my point all along. If you have a problem with casinos, don’t get upset with casinos...take it up with your government.

A casinos’s primary purpose is to generate revenue (tax or sharing revenue in the case of Indian casinos) for the government. A casino is basically government’s voluntary tax center. That’s why govenrments legalize them even though they understand the downside (which is not the casino’s fault) that comes with them.

[mickeycrimm]

The American Gaming Association reports there were 640 casinos operating in the US in 2017. Are 500 of them Indian casinos?

Just checked the AGA, and found:

"At the close of 2018, there were 979 casino gaming locations in the United States. These are tribal gaming locations as defined by the National Indian Gaming Commission and commercial casino locations that are licensed, individual land-based casinos, riverboat casinos, racetrack casinos (racinos) and jai alai frontons."

There are 1700 casinos in Montana.

I'm sure you are very proud of yourself for posting this. What a wonderful feeling you must have being able to set the record straight by saying there are 1700 casinos in Montana. But regardless of the sign on the door, places of business such as bars and restaurants and gas stations with a limited number of machines are NOT considered to be casinos.

So before this turns into 20 pages of arguing over definitions and the typical insulting that every thread evolves into because of absentee weak management let me say that the numbers used above by the AGA and quoted for the Native Indian Casinos do not include gas stations, bars, convenience and grocery stores with slot machines. Check the AGA website for how these are defined:

"Commercial casino locations do not include other forms of commercial gaming, such as bars, taverns or truck stops with video lottery terminals, video gaming terminals or electronic gaming devices, animal racetracks without gaming machines such as horse and dog tracks, slot-route operation locations, instant racing terminal locations or off-track betting operations, lottery/retail locations, card rooms, standalone sportsbooks, or other locations in which gaming is incidental to the location’s primary business."

Cruise 4 miles of 10th Ave. South in Great Falls, Montana and you will see 40 signs that say CASINO. And gambling is their primary business, not booze or gas or food.

[Bob21]

APs should not post anything that may be construed as anti casino including that casinos increase crime or banruptcies. After all, should anything happen to limit casino gambling such as removing ATMs from inside cadinos, the APs might lose opportunities for income.

The APs should be singing the praises of the casinos. They're your life.

You don’t need to worry about this Alan. Our country is so far down the casino rabbit hole that it wouldn’t matter what anybody said, casinos are here to stay. It’s only a matter of time before they are legalized in all 50 states.

Americans love their casinos. They spend more in casinos than at all major sporting events and movies. This must be because people love this form of entertainment...losing while playing negative EV games.

No wait, casinos can’t be providing any entertainment for the masses. There is no way that could be happening. All these people go to casinos as a side job, they hate it and think of it as work. At least that’s what most APs think.

[mickeycrimm]

Well, ring the bell -- Argentino and I see eye to eye on another topic.

Yeah, there are some strange -- and wrong -- assertions here. Kind of makes one wonder why somebody starts a thread when they don't know anything about half the casinos in this country.

In many ways, tribal casinos are a way for Native Americans to collect their own reparations from the mathematically challenged American tourist population.

So you’re saying Indian casinos pay no local or state taxes? Maybe it’s not called taxes but they pay something to the state and local entities for the right to operate their casinos. I think you’re right, it’s called something else, but it’s still revenue going to local governments. If you’re going to make such an accusation, please support it with some references.

I’m shocked at how little APs know about the casino industry. It looks like they get most of their information from word of mouth and speculation. Do some research and you might be surprised at what you find.

I'm no AP, at least in the marginalized sense of the word. But while you're requesting supporting info on the facts I laid out, it'd be nice if you first produce evidence of your initial assertions. I know there will be none because it's all just a click away on the internet. You should have listened to redietz.

And I'll even clip your wings a little more before you try to proclaim that those who win in casinos are big time taxpayers. First, most people lose, and the vast majority of those who receive W2G's incur overall more losses than they win. But let's stick with the "winners" for now, shall we?

We'll first use kew as an example. The character he's created wins every year playing bj. Let's say he claimed a net income of $88,000 in 2018. He's likely received zero W2G's. Now it doesn't take an MBA like me to ascertain that he'd have to be the absolute dumbest bazooka to come down the gambling pike not to have also claimed $88,000 in losses--IF he files a tax return. No AP gambler looks for ways to pay taxes.

Next we'll shift gears to mickeycrimm. The character HE'S created on the internet claims to beat up casinos to the tune of $100,000+ every year! He also claims to rarely, if ever, receive W2G's, because he's a low level player. Now, should he be an avid filer of tax returns, do you actually believe he would not deduct losses equal to his winnings, or do you think he would truthfully report his net winnings so he could happily cut a check for $21,000 to the IRS on April 15th?

Wise up.

If the character you created actually won $100,000 per year but showed no net win from it then he had to have hid behind his wife's income. After several years of a single person doing this the IRS would want to know what money paid the rent/mortgage, car payments, utilities, insurance, etc. The way the IRS catches most gamblers is they live larger than what their stated income says they should be living.

[mickeycrimm]

So you’re saying Indian casinos pay no local or state taxes? Maybe it’s not called taxes but they pay something to the state and local entities for the right to operate their casinos. I think you’re right, it’s called something else, but it’s still revenue going to local governments. If you’re going to make such an accusation, please support it with some references.

I’m shocked at how little APs know about the casino industry. It looks like they get most of their information from word of mouth and speculation. Do some research and you might be surprised at what you find.

I'm no AP, at least in the marginalized sense of the word. But while you're requesting supporting info on the facts I laid out, it'd be nice if you first produce evidence of your initial assertions. I know there will be none because it's all just a click away on the internet. You should have listened to redietz.

And I'll even clip your wings a little more before you try to proclaim that those who win in casinos are big time taxpayers. First, most people lose, and the vast majority of those who receive W2G's incur overall more losses than they win. But let's stick with the "winners" for now, shall we?

We'll first use kew as an example. The character he's created wins every year playing bj. Let's say he claimed a net income of $88,000 in 2018. He's likely received zero W2G's. Now it doesn't take an MBA like me to ascertain that he'd have to be the absolute dumbest bazooka to come down the gambling pike not to have also claimed $88,000 in losses--IF he files a tax return. No AP gambler looks for ways to pay taxes.

Next we'll shift gears to mickeycrimm. The character HE'S created on the internet claims to beat up casinos to the tune of $100,000+ every year! He also claims to rarely, if ever, receive W2G's, because he's a low level player. Now, should he be an avid filer of tax returns, do you actually believe he would not deduct losses equal to his winnings, or do you think he would truthfully report his net winnings so he could happily cut a check for $21,000 to the IRS on April 15th?

Wise up.

If the character you created actually won $100,000 per year but showed no net win from it then he had to have hid behind his wife's income. After several years of a single person doing this the IRS would want to know what money paid the rent/mortgage, car payments, utilities, insurance, etc. The way the IRS catches most gamblers is they live larger than what their stated income says they should be living.

PS you just make the shit up as you go. I've said I had one year slightly above 100K before expenses.

[mickeycrimm]

I certainly do not blame casinos for operating. They have been very kind to me over the years.

Thank you, capitalism and government.

By any chance are you the guy who offered to suck me off outside the Battle Mountain Truck Stop Monday night? They guy claimed to have a 9 1/2 cock and also claimed to be able to turn the $20 he wanted for swallowing into $100,000 in minutes on a VP machine.

Probably just a strange coincidence.

And I’m sure that ramshackle RV he stumbled back to wasn’t actually his.

Rob has parked the ole camp trailer many times at Battle Mountain. He likes the town known as the worst town in America.

[mickeycrimm]

For the record, there is no "Indian gaming" in Pennsylvania. There are no "Indian casinos" or "Indian bingo halls."

The numbers I listed above (45% of U.S. revenue and close to 500 U.S. casinos) were referring to Native-American gaming. The casinos in Pennsylvania that have been purchased by tribes are not considered, and their numbers do not count towards, the Native American numbers. Tribes bought casinos on non-tribal land in Pennsylvania because they made incredible amounts of money from their tribal-land casinos and want to ameliorate the effects of more and more states legalizing gambling. So if the tribes have no land in those newly-legal states, they pony up the money to buy casinos outright. These casinos are considered state-regulated and non-tribal, and they pay taxes.

But these are not "Indian gaming."

Redietz, I don’t know what point you’re trying to make with this post. It looks like you’re agreeing with me. My point, in case you missed it, is the state and local govenrments still receive a lot of revenue from Indian casinos. In many cases, more than from non-Indian casinos. You can call it taxes, revenue sharing or whatever, but Indian casinos contribute to local governments.

The Indian gaming regulation act is not what people think. It’s pretty complicated and has gone before the Supreme Court many times. States and local governments still need to approve Indian casinos. They aren’t going to approve them if there’s not something in it for them. Remember, in the big cowboys vs Indian war, the cowboys won.

As far as Pennsylvania, Mohegan Sun tribe in Connecticut bought Pocono Downs race track and has slot machines on this property where they share revenue with the state. Maybe you were trying to make some technical point that the Indian properties are regulated differently in Pennsylvania than other states. Okay, I’ll give you that. I expect each state probably handles indian casinos differently.

This belief that APs have that the Tribal casinos revenue is only for the Indians is very misguided. These casinos are pretty much like all the others. They provide revenue to state and local governments. They exist because state and local governments want them.

Most tribes fought their states tooth and nail to be allowed to open casinos.

[Bob21]

For the record, there is no "Indian gaming" in Pennsylvania. There are no "Indian casinos" or "Indian bingo halls."

The numbers I listed above (45% of U.S. revenue and close to 500 U.S. casinos) were referring to Native-American gaming. The casinos in Pennsylvania that have been purchased by tribes are not considered, and their numbers do not count towards, the Native American numbers. Tribes bought casinos on non-tribal land in Pennsylvania because they made incredible amounts of money from their tribal-land casinos and want to ameliorate the effects of more and more states legalizing gambling. So if the tribes have no land in those newly-legal states, they pony up the money to buy casinos outright. These casinos are considered state-regulated and non-tribal, and they pay taxes.

But these are not "Indian gaming."

Redietz, I don’t know what point you’re trying to make with this post. It looks like you’re agreeing with me. My point, in case you missed it, is the state and local govenrments still receive a lot of revenue from Indian casinos. In many cases, more than from non-Indian casinos. You can call it taxes, revenue sharing or whatever, but Indian casinos contribute to local governments.

The Indian gaming regulation act is not what people think. It’s pretty complicated and has gone before the Supreme Court many times. States and local governments still need to approve Indian casinos. They aren’t going to approve them if there’s not something in it for them. Remember, in the big cowboys vs Indian war, the cowboys won.

As far as Pennsylvania, Mohegan Sun tribe in Connecticut bought Pocono Downs race track and has slot machines on this property where they share revenue with the state. Maybe you were trying to make some technical point that the Indian properties are regulated differently in Pennsylvania than other states. Okay, I’ll give you that. I expect each state probably handles indian casinos differently.

This belief that APs have that the Tribal casinos revenue is only for the Indians is very misguided. These casinos are pretty much like all the others. They provide revenue to state and local governments. They exist because state and local governments want them.

Most tribes fought their states tooth and nail to be allowed to open casinos.

It’s a little more complicated than that. Many states and local governments used the Indian gaming act as a loophole to get land based casinos into their state. I know some places where this happened. No question, Mickey, you’re right in some cases.

It doesn't matter how hard Indians fight to get in, if the state doesn’t allow casinos, they aren’t getting in. They aren’t getting into Utah and Texas until the state government approve them. I expect Utah will be the last state to approve casinos.

[mickeycrimm]

Hey kj, I am not an anti-AP. I guess you could call me a “balanced” AP. I am an AP myself. When I see APs make misinformed comments about casinos, I correct them.

There are a lot of APs that don’t know why casinos exists. They think they just appear in communities like weeds. Most APs don’t know they have to get government approval before they can open. Why does the government approve them when they know the downsides that come with them? Because of all the revenue the casinos generate for the state and local governments.

I also point out the casinos business model, which most APs don’t understand or won’t acknowledge. When I say it’s to provide negative EV games for the purpose of entertainment, I almost always get some AP responding by saying “bullshit”. If that’s not their business model, I wish some AP could enlighten me on what it is. So far none have.

As far as Bob, in case you didn’t notice he gets paid for his services. He’s not doing anything out of the goodness or his heart or because he has some higher moral code. He’s basically an “ ambulance chaser “. There are quite a few lawyers out there like Bob. He’s found his niche with the AP crowd and holding casinos hostages over some trivial thing. I’m sure there are some legitimate cases, but I expect a lot of the cases the casino just pay him off to make them go away. He’s become a hero in the AP world since it doesn’t take much to be a hero in their world. Lol

You know nothing about Nersesian. He had to take a cut in pay to take the casino cases. It was always hard to get a lawyer to sue the casinos over these abuse cases. They didn't want them because there was much better money in other type cases. But Nersesian took a dim view of the casinos always getting away with it. He didn't like all the rights being violated. So he took the casino cases even though he could have made much better money on other type cases.

That was his story and you guys bought it. Look it might be true but I doubt it. I expect he saw a gullible group of people he could exploit to make some money. All lawyers are looking for their niche and I expect he found his by going after casinos. Some go after the Hotel industry, some the car industry, some oil companies, etc. He choose casinos.

Casinos are only a small part of what he does, shitforbrains. You can look at the judgement sizes to see their isn't much money in it.

[mickeycrimm]

APs should not post anything that may be construed as anti casino including that casinos increase crime or banruptcies. After all, should anything happen to limit casino gambling such as removing ATMs from inside cadinos, the APs might lose opportunities for income.

The APs should be singing the praises of the casinos. They're your life.

There is nothing wrong with making a living in casinos but also being honest about the downside of casinos.

[Bob21]

You know nothing about Nersesian. He had to take a cut in pay to take the casino cases. It was always hard to get a lawyer to sue the casinos over these abuse cases. They didn't want them because there was much better money in other type cases. But Nersesian took a dim view of the casinos always getting away with it. He didn't like all the rights being violated. So he took the casino cases even though he could have made much better money on other type cases.

That was his story and you guys bought it. Look it might be true but I doubt it. I expect he saw a gullible group of people he could exploit to make some money. All lawyers are looking for their niche and I expect he found his by going after casinos. Some go after the Hotel industry, some the car industry, some oil companies, etc. He choose casinos.

Casinos are only a small part of what he does, shirforbrains. You can look at the judgement sizes to see their isn't much money in it.

I can tell I’m getting under your skin Mickey. How can I tell? You’re resorting to name calling. When liberals lose arguments this is the first thing they resort too, name calling.

First off, there are a lot of sealed off-the-record settlements between two parties in some of these cases so we’ll never know the true story, and how much Bob makes. Second, a lot of people have side business. If this is only a side business for Bob as you say, then I expect Bob probably doesn’t put much time into it.

I’ve never had much respect for lawyers who’s business model is shaking down business. You can call it what you want, but at the core of what Bob does is shakedown corporations. In his case, it’s casinos. These type of lawyers are for the most part parasites to our economy.

[BoSox]

That was his story and you guys bought it. Look it might be true but I doubt it. I expect he saw a gullible group of people he could exploit to make some money. All lawyers are looking for their niche and I expect he found his by going after casinos. Some go after the Hotel industry, some the car industry, some oil companies, etc. He choose casinos.

Casinos are only a small part of what he does, shirforbrains. You can look at the judgement sizes to see their isn't much money in it.

I can tell I’m getting under your skin Mickey. How can I tell? You’re resorting to name calling. When liberals lose arguments this is the first thing they resort too, name calling.

First off, there are a lot of sealed off-the-record settlements between two parties in some of these cases so we’ll never know the true story, and how much Bob makes. Second, a lot of people have side business. If this is only a side business for Bob as you say, then I expect Bob probably doesn’t put much time into it.

I’ve never had much respect for lawyers who’s business model is shaking down business. You can call it what you want, but at the core of what Bob does is shakedown corporations. In his case, it’s casinos. These type of lawyers are for the most part parasites to our economy.

Bob, you just enjoy getting people all angry and agitated don't you? You could care less whatever comes out of your mouth, you just want to troll.

[Bob21]

Casinos are only a small part of what he does, shirforbrains. You can look at the judgement sizes to see their isn't much money in it.

I can tell I’m getting under your skin Mickey. How can I tell? You’re resorting to name calling. When liberals lose arguments this is the first thing they resort too, name calling.

First off, there are a lot of sealed off-the-record settlements between two parties in some of these cases so we’ll never know the true story, and how much Bob makes. Second, a lot of people have side business. If this is only a side business for Bob as you say, then I expect Bob probably doesn’t put much time into it.

I’ve never had much respect for lawyers who’s business model is shaking down business. You can call it what you want, but at the core of what Bob does is shakedown corporations. In his case, it’s casinos. These type of lawyers are for the most part parasites to our economy.

Bob, you just enjoy getting people all angry and agitated don't you? You could care less whatever comes out of your mouth, you just want to troll.

Bobo, should I quite expressing my views than? It looks like you aren’t able to handle opinions that are different than yours. By the way, this is the hallmark of a liberal, someone who can’t handle someone who thinks differently than them.

By the way, a troll is not someone who has opinions different than the majority. I know this is the definition of troll in the AP community, since it’s a cultish-type community. Please look up the definition of troll.