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Thread: Message to Norm.

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    I am going to post a public message to an audience of one, because he reads this site (might be a member for all I know) and this is the only way I have to respond.

    Early today on BJTF, someone mentioned the forum "gamblingforums", a site that several of us here previously participated on. Norm's posted the following reponse to that mention:

    "I have been told that the owner/admin of the site sells Roulette systems. Appears likely given the registration history. But, obviously you haven't read the hundreds of posts there by KJ claiming this (BJTF) is the most fraudulent site on the 'Net. He's still at it elsewhere after all these years."

    To set the record straight, what I claimed was that there was a fraud member at BJTF, posting mathematically impossible blackjack claims, intentionally misleading other members. And when several members challenged those claims, Norm disallowed those challenges and protected this fraud for several years, until Don Schlesinger finally completely discredited all of the claims, just as I and others had tried to do years earlier.

    This is a little different than Norm's version.

    As per the final thought. Who brought this up? (after all these years)??

    Norman, your forum, that I helped start, made the first half dozen posts when no one else would sign up because they feared what it would become under you, is hemorrhaging members. Daily membership visits is in the 80's when it once was in the 130's. You might want to focus on that.

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    Poor poor KJ. Always running his mouth. Always the victim. Your fantasy world is shrinking.

    Let's go with "I seriously doubt Norm gives a fuck" for $500 Alex. I mean Axel.
    Last edited by UCFX; 03-31-2019 at 10:16 AM.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    To set the record straight, what I claimed was that there was a fraud member at BJTF, posting mathematically impossible blackjack claims, intentionally misleading other members.
    What do you call what you're doing here? Do you really believe the assortment of fairy tales you told here are not misleading other members?

    Looks like you got advice for all forum members. Shank, Norm, Dan, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
    Pelosi Calif. Schumer N.York. Enough said. We'll never stop those states. Their like 2 foreign countries. I'm for invasion.

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    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    To set the record straight, what I claimed was that there was a fraud member at BJTF, posting mathematically impossible blackjack claims, intentionally misleading other members.
    What do you call what you're doing here? Do you really believe the assortment of fairy tales you told here are not misleading other members?


    What he is saying is just the opposite of what you are saying. Unless you consider warning others about possible pitfalls pertaining to the game itself and the importance of money management skills. He does not post about a constantly rosy picture for people who are considering playing the game.

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    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    What he is saying is just the opposite of what you are saying. Unless you consider warning others about possible pitfalls pertaining to the game itself and the importance of money management skills. He does not post about a constantly rosy picture for people who are considering playing the game.
    Hey BoBo, I know you talk out of your ass because you're bored and spend most of your waking hours surfing gaming forums. KJ is a lying fairy tale bullshit artist. Just the fact that you suck up what that fool says demonstrates how much of a clown you really are.

    How well do you know KJ ?

    Did you ever meet him ?

    Did he ever show you all his assets ?

    You don't know shit about him except for his printed fairy tales. You still believe in the tooth fairy ... correct?

    FN fool
    Pelosi Calif. Schumer N.York. Enough said. We'll never stop those states. Their like 2 foreign countries. I'm for invasion.

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    Mr. Blackhole: Please forgive me asking more questions before Bosox answered yours. But he has been on this morning and I have to go to work. So I have some additional questions.

    Have you ever met Moses?

    Been to his house?

    Seen any of his sports bet tickets?

    Seen him play blackjack?

    My answer is yes to all the above. You call me a Ho? Why are you making this false accusations? To be KJs friend?

    I have only met one AP in my life. Are you him? If so, how in the world did you arrive at the Ho conclusion? We welcomed this person, a complete stranger, into our home and went out to dinner and a casino. This is how you repay our kindness? IF you don't know me, or are not him, then it's time you come clean. If you don't get in touch with this east coast attorney? Then I WILL. THAT's for damn sure.

    Ignore, and I will be requesting he come to this forum to straighten out these false accusations you continue to spew.

    Dan. This is a creepy guy who was making claims about me before I ever posted on this forum.
    Last edited by UCFX; 04-01-2019 at 08:31 AM.

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    Norms response to KJs OP;

    About one out of every 200 of KJs accusations of crimes by many people, I make a comment. That is, about once a year I state, for the record, that his accusations are completely without merit.

    Bosox writes: Thank you for your meaningless, and obvious onesided opinion.

    Scoreboard:
    Helpfuls. Norm 2 for 2.

    Not Help Bosox 0 for 5. I mean Nosox.


    Dan. Given Norm's response and both KJs and Bosox false claims and accusations, consider the frauds who are writing on your forum.

    NO KJ. I'm not MOSES!

    I'm much smarter than him. IF you haven't figured that out by now? This it's true. U Can't FIX Stupid.

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    Does Norm Fartemberger have the farts again?
    Keystone is a mental midget.

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Does Norm Fartemberger have the farts again?
    .
    I don't know Mickey. But Moses ate two big bowls of the Navy Bean soup at the poker room of the Peppermill while watching basketball Sunday. Whew! I thought that mouse in the house had died. But no, he put up his little hands and surrendered. lol

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I find it so weird when I encounter someone like Singer on these forums. Someone making outlandish claims and having this weird need to be someone they are not. And to go to the extreme of the sockpuppetry that he goes to, making up people to vouch for him and sing his praises. I am sure that is some kind of mental deficiency or void but it is just weird to me.
    What could a person with your lack of education possible know about mental deficiency? Unless it's from your own narcissistic traits and behaviors.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Now I know he will fire back saying similar things about me. THIS isn't normal.
    Any normal person would fire back when insulted. However, your excessive need for admiration is abnormal.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    The bottom line is like I always say, it doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking. And while the use of sockpuppets for false credibility "muddies" that process, it doesn't change it, only prolongs it. Sooner or later the person proves themselves to just be talking.
    Your exaggerated sense of self importance exemplifies your constant need to "talk the talk." However, your preoccupation with fantasies about success, power, brilliance precludes you from "walking the walk." Behind your mask of extreme confidence less a fragile self esteem that is vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    And while I myself have a few haters, some that follow me to different sites, there hate and attacks on me almost always turn out to be about some sort of personal issue rather than the math and these people always turn out to be non-AP's that can't even recognize the math. Because my math adds up. Like me. Hate me. My math adds up. For good reason.

    But keep going Argentino/Singer. I suppose you will go to your grave continuing to perpetuate this little farce that now only 2 or 3 people still believe, and I don't even thing those 2-3 even really believe anymore. It is just all really weirdness!
    In addition to the above;
    1.) You expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it.
    2.) You exaggerate achievements and talents.
    3.) You are disappointed when you're not given special consideration.
    4.) You monopolize conversations and belittle people you deem as inferior.
    5.) You are envious of others and believe others are envious of you.
    6.) Your haughty manner is arrogant, conceited, boastful, and pretentious. All which masks the fears that burn you up inside.
    7.) Therefore, rather than face, you belittle the other person with lies in order to appear superior.
    Last edited by UCFX; 04-02-2019 at 03:33 PM.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    And while I have used a couple sockpuppets to return to forums that I was banned usually to post something specific and usually intentionally obvious with a similar name, I have never even considered this nonsense that these sockpuppet people like Singer and Moses do, creating not just sock puppets, but alternative personalities. One of Moses sock's here is a female for god sakes.
    Add Schizotypal to this KJs list above. KJ, PLEASE GET SOME HELP.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I myself am not a fan of the BJHoF. Never have been. And the fact that I was approached earlier this year about possible future membership, hasn't changed that. I respect the people and their achievements but don't need a clubhouse to pat each other on the back. I probably won't be approached again. .
    Congratulations.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    As for your views on a AP career, nobody gives a fuck what you a casino industry guy thinks. If you weren't such a fucking idiot, you would have figured that out during your long running discussion. Nobody cares about you or what you think. You are the village idiot. A casino industry troll, who's only purpose is to be disruptive and destroy any forum that has any discussion of advantage play. So just fuck off asshole.
    Pardon me for saying. But if this is your acceptance speech? It could use some work.

    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Are you serious kj? You’ve been approached by the BJ Hall of Fame group to become a member? That would really bring credibliliy to this group. Lol .
    Surely he isn't serious. Whups, sorry I called you surely.

    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Which accomplish is the most impressive in your book?
    Book? What book? KJ wrote a book.
    Surely you're not serious. Sorry, I mean Bob.

    Can you imagine the forum D trying to explain this to Don S? Well, uh, you see Don. You tell him Norm.
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