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  1. #1
    Midwest Player stated he only played 13 days in a year. That's 352 days he didn't play. I doubt if you even play that much as you're on the forum everyday - all day waiting to pounce - like your job is FUDD. You guys are the PROS giving advice? When is the last time you or Midwest Player have ever reviewed a sim. Practiced on Verite. This is competition at the highest level where you lose by forfeit. Not something one just strolls in unprepared and wins. No wonder the younger players have entitlement issues.

    Moses, I never said I played only 13 times in a year. You better learn how to read. I said in the last 13 times I played I only had one loss. I played a total of 263 hours in 2018 for about 6 hours each day I played.

    By the way, I play on Verite for a few minutes almost every day I'm not on a BJ trip.

  2. #2
    Midwest Player, I thought Moses comments were spot on. You say you spend a lot of time shoveling snow off your roof. I’m lived for short periods of time in South Dakota and we’d have quite a bit of snow and I don’t remember anybody ever shoveling snow off their roofs. Most the time houses in the north have a steeper pitch so snow doesn’t build up on house roofs. If sounds like your area didn’t get that memo. Lol. Now with some of the flat roofs on warehouses, they’d have to shovel snow off roofs, but not on house roofs.

    Moses, about how many hours I play a year, you got it about right. I don’t keep real accurate records, so you’re estimate is pretty good. Some weekends I don’t play at all, but there are weekends I easily put in 20 hours. I’m a camper.

    This year I have kept better records of my playing time so we’ll see what happens. I’ve even stepped up my bet spread to 2 x $150 at casinos I don’t frequent as much. So far things have gone well, but I’m not running anywhere close to as hot as Midwest Player.

    I hope my post doesn’t get the usual nasty reply from kj for not being exclusively about gambling. I apologize for talking about shoveling snow off roofs on a gambling site. Hope this doesn’t get me barred.

    But to Midwest player’s credit, this is a forgotten topic on many forums. I’m glad he’s around to make us aware of this important issue. It takes all kinds! Lol

  3. #3
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    I hope my post doesn’t get the usual nasty reply from kj for not being exclusively about gambling.
    No, KJ's reply is that you Bob21 are a LIAR and a troll!

    Moses posts lies about everyone. He is a fucking liar, proven over and over. In this case he posted information about a player, Midwest player, that was completely false, because it suited him and the false accusations that he (moses) wanted to make, as he attempted to discredit Midwest Player. So Midwest Player corrects those false accusations. You chime in that "you think Moses comments were spot on". What the fuck!?! This isn't opinion. This is facts. There are only 1 set of facts about Midwest Players results and only Midwest Player know what they are. You and Moses don't get to dispute facts about Midwest players results.

    This is like if Moses says that Midwest Players favorite color is yellow. Midwest Player corrects him saying no my favorite color is blue. And then you chime in "I think Moses is spot on that Midwest's favorite color is yellow". You don't get to have an opinion, because this isn't about opinions, it is about fact. There is only one. And only Midwest Player knows. Idiot!!

    Moses making up his own facts proves yet again what a liar he is. And you backing up Moses after the person involved has corrected the record shows what a liar and troll you are. And truth be told I still think you are connected in some way. If not a sock puppet, you have some sort of association with Moses (family member/friend) whatever and he feeds you info and you run with it. Same damn effect as a sock puppet. A phony person in the hopes that it gives some sort of credibility. You aren't fooling me. I can recognize these situations a mile away. And I don't think you are fooling anyone else on these forums.

    So there you have it Bob21, you are a liar a troll and a fucking idiot!

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    I hope my post doesn’t get the usual nasty reply from kj for not being exclusively about gambling.
    No, KJ's reply is that you Bob21 are a LIAR and a troll!

    Moses posts lies about everyone. He is a fucking liar, proven over and over. In this case he posted information about a player, Midwest player, that was completely false, because it suited him and the false accusations that he (moses) wanted to make, as he attempted to discredit Midwest Player. So Midwest Player corrects those false accusations. You chime in that "you think Moses comments were spot on". What the fuck!?! This isn't opinion. This is facts. There are only 1 set of facts about Midwest Players results and only Midwest Player know what they are. You and Moses don't get to dispute facts about Midwest players results.

    This is like if Moses says that Midwest Players favorite color is yellow. Midwest Player corrects him saying no my favorite color is blue. And then you chime in "I think Moses is spot on that Midwest's favorite color is yellow". You don't get to have an opinion, because this isn't about opinions, it is about fact. There is only one. And only Midwest Player knows. Idiot!!

    Moses making up his own facts proves yet again what a liar he is. And you backing up Moses after the person involved has corrected the record shows what a liar and troll you are. And truth be told I still think you are connected in some way. If not a sock puppet, you have some sort of association with Moses (family member/friend) whatever and he feeds you info and you run with it. Same damn effect as a sock puppet. A phony person in the hopes that it gives some sort of credibility. You aren't fooling me. I can recognize these situations a mile away. And I don't think you are fooling anyone else on these forums.

    So there you have it Bob21, you are a liar a troll and a fucking idiot!
    I don`t know Bob21 or anything about him so couldn`t say if he`s a liar or not....however, anyone with 1/2 a brain knows Moses is a loony tunes bullshit artist

  5. #5
    And what this does is dissuades new members, real players, from participating here, because of these fucktards. Dan Druff is happy as a pig in shit because his shit site is getting a few more posts and views. But they are all from one asswipe (moses) and his sock puppets / associates.

    We finally get a few of these anti-AP trolls, with an agenda to destroy the site to leave or post less, and the void gets filled with another complete fraud and moron, Moses (and the figments of his imagination) who has proven he doesn't know shit about card counting or advantage play. He lives in a Reno sportsbook with his homeless friends betting sports and $5 blackjack, for a living. Yeah right. Reno of all places....the sweatiest place on earth.

    Dan Druff, I think you are a pretty smart guy, but I can't for the life of me figure out why you allow this kind of forum, that is now drawing these trolls. You are ruining your name by association by doing so, by embracing such a troll site with all the voodoo bullshit.

    And let me correct one other thing you said a few days ago Dan Druff. You attempted to put me down and place me in the same boat, by announcing that I too have been banned at a couple sites. A top talking point from this crowd. Let's get the record straight right now. I am banned at 2 forums, one a blackjack forum that I am (or was) feuding with the owner over blackjack substance. This person happens to have a long history of feuding with members of the blackjack community. The second forum WoV is just a connection of that, as this same person used his influence and friendship to get Wizard involved with something (an outside feud), that Wizard really didn't know anything about. So my 2 bannings are the result of one person, 1 feud.

    You are going to equate that with people like Moses, and Singer and a few others that are banned at numerous unrelated forums, basically every forum they go to because they are notorious trolls. It isn't even about gambling or advantage play or gambling related topics. These guys are trolls. They want to disrupt whatever forum they are on, so they are almost always banned and in very short order. And yet they always find a home and the welcome mat here. Can you explain that Dan Druff?

    And by the way it is no coincidence that the two people mentioned were also banned by you...on a site that by your own words, "You can't get banned from". What that tells me is that even YOU know, they are trolls and shouldn't be here. You just can't bring yourself to give up the temporary loss in traffic that would accompany such cleaning up the forum into something legit. Grow a pair Dan Druff!

    It is possible to have a forum that is a bit more lenient in terms of challenges and opinions, even voodoo opinions, that go against the math, along the lines of freedom of speech that you advocate, without inviting the worst of the worst of society and giving up all elements of human decency.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 04-13-2019 at 11:29 AM.

  6. #6
    Moses says:
    Since most of your posts are about snow, it appears you have not played since November 2018 which is 6 months or 1/2 year.

    Again not true. I did play in Nov 2018. I actually won over $1,200 for Nov. However, Nov was the month that I racked up that 1 loss out of the last 13 times I played. I don't play in the peak winter months, but I have already started my play for 2019. I'm actually 1/5 of the way to my goal for 2019. I don't know if I will make it especially since this last storm ruined the possibility for a blackjack trip.

    By the way, you can walk out your door and be sitting at a blackjack table in 5 minutes. I have a 2 or 3 hour drive or more to get to a blackjack table. So yes, I can't play every day like you and don't want to.
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 04-13-2019 at 11:45 AM.

  7. #7
    Please have everyone post their results after 13 sessions. That should clear things up. KJ, you're ranting again. I thought you left. Please put some clothes on and go cry to your mommy.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Please have everyone post their results after 13 sessions. That should clear things up. KJ, you're ranting again. I thought you left. Please put some clothes on and go cry to your mommy.
    Just as if on que, Moses sock puppet UCFX responds with 2 more lies that Moses has repeatedly pushed. The reference about putting cloths on is a lie that Moses has repeatedly stated on another forum that I walk around naked in front of my mother. A complete lie. I never remember being naked in front of my mother. I suppose maybe when I was 2 years old, I was, but I don't remember. Certainly not in the last 30 some years.

    The second reference "cry to your mom" is about the lie that Moses repeatedly tells that I live with my mother and she drives me around. Both complete lies. When my mother divorced and moved to Las Vegas a few years back, she stayed in my home for a couple months, while looking for and then waiting for an opening in a 50+ community. She never "lived with me" nor where there any plans for it.

    Trolls lie....that is the bottom line. They can't troll based on facts or the truth, so they make up there own. Moses, his sockpuppet UCFX, and whatever the association is with Bob21 are a troll. Bob21 may or may not actually be a separate person, but it is the same troll association that has all but taken over this forum with Dan Druff's apparent blessing.

  9. #9
    Well Duh! I live with him and it is Saturday. My day off. But talk about coincidence. No posts from either KJ or Keystone is 2 days. And then Keystone follows a KJ post in just 11 minutes. KJ is a well known monstrous fraud and liar. I guess Keystone is his enforcer? lmao

  10. #10
    More bullshit.

    Moses says:
    IF Bob, who has said many times he plays for recreation, only plays 10 hours on weekends, that is still 2600 hours a year.

    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Moses, about how many hours I play a year, you got it about right. I don’t keep real accurate records, so you’re estimate is pretty good. Some weekends I don’t play at all, but there are weekends I easily put in 20 hours. I’m a camper.
    I suggest Moses and Bob brush up on their math skills. I surely don't think playing 20 hours per weekend a year is 2,600 hours. Most it could be would be 1040 hours and Bob admits he doesn't play every weekend. I also kind of doubt if Bob is actually getting 20 hours of play time on a weekend if he has a full time job.

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Well Duh! I live with him and it is Saturday. My day off. But talk about coincidence. No posts from either KJ or Keystone is 2 days. And then Keystone follows a KJ post in just 11 minutes. KJ is a well known monstrous fraud and liar. I guess Keystone is his enforcer? lmao
    You continue to be the world's biggest idiot. I joined the forum when Mickeycrimm suggested it after the forum we were on lost all credibility (the owner was a scammer). Keystone was on this forum before I joined. I Know almost nothing about Keystone, except that he hasn't demonstrated any kind of blackjack knowledge (no offense Keystone). I believe he has even stated that he doesn't play blackjack. You think I, a blackjack guy, who most of my posts are on the top of blackjack and my experiences, is going to create a sock puppet that can't back me up on anything I say? There is just no other word for you Moses/UCFX than idiot.

    What I think Keystone and I have in common is we both recognize you are a troll, and an idiot, along with numerous other. That doesn't make us sockpuppets…..that makes us all "on to you".

    But since you have made these claims about keystone and I, I am quite sure Dan Druff has looked into it and if he hasn't I invite him to. And I invite and encourage him to share his opinion on both Keystone and I being sock puppets as well as Moses and UCFX being sock puppets. PLEASE Dan Druff, reveal what you have found.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    More bullshit.

    Moses says:
    IF Bob, who has said many times he plays for recreation, only plays 10 hours on weekends, that is still 2600 hours a year.

    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Moses, about how many hours I play a year, you got it about right. I don’t keep real accurate records, so you’re estimate is pretty good. Some weekends I don’t play at all, but there are weekends I easily put in 20 hours. I’m a camper.
    I suggest Moses and Bob brush up on their math skills. I surely don't think playing 20 hours per weekend a year is 2,600 hours. Most it could be would be 1040 hours and Bob admits he doesn't play every weekend. I also kind of doubt if Bob is actually getting 20 hours of play time on a weekend if he has a full time job.
    I don`t know how he`s supposed to do that, I doubt he finished the 3rd grade...Oh yeah, he`s a college graduate tho lol....he has a degree in felching from Hobo State

  13. #13
    Actually, MP, Math Promoter, 50 hours a week is 2600 a year. But it's good to know you're reading a forum you say you never read. Great catch in the trap Moses set for you. But you still got the wrong answer. In the words of MaxPen and JBJB. Two very bright guys IMO. Why didn't you post at Zen Zone? Btw, Moses is banned here. He won!

    Have you considered a snow blower? Relax KJ, it's not a queer Eskimo.

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post

    I don`t know how he`s supposed to do that, I doubt he finished the 3rd grade...Oh yeah, he`s a college graduate tho lol....he has a degree in felching from Hobo State
    What's the matter Keystone? Isn't Moses playing nice with you? You're so smart. Surely you can come up with terms as opposed to just words. Sorry, I mean you not actually Shirley?

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post

    I don`t know how he`s supposed to do that, I doubt he finished the 3rd grade...Oh yeah, he`s a college graduate tho lol....he has a degree in felching from Hobo State
    What's the matter Keystone? Isn't Moses playing nice with you? You're so smart. Surely you can come up with terms as opposed to just words. Sorry, I mean you not actually Shirley?
    English please dumbass..do you speak it? LOL

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Please have everyone post their results after 13 sessions. That should clear things up. KJ, you're ranting again. I thought you left. Please put some clothes on and go cry to your mommy.
    Okay Moses, just for you I will post the results of my last 13 sessions. Total win $5,632 or $75.60 per hour. Yes, as you say: "When the good Lord shine his light upon you, which clearly is the case, according to your results. You don't question. You don't expect/demand more. You simply give thanks."

  17. #17
    Just for fun, I just looked at Keystone's posting history. It took all of about 90 seconds looking at the first page of his posts to see he frequently posts at 4am, 5am, 6am. Yesterday is was 3:58 am.

    I don't wake up until 7am (Las Vegas time) and almost never post before 8am as I am eating breakfast, getting ready to head out for the day. Like I said it took a minute for anyone with half a brain to figure that out, Moses, you complete moron.

    I mean if I want to take this even further, I would guess Keystone is on the East Coast or maybe Midwest or something where there is a several hours time difference. So he wakes up at I don't know whenever and posts and it comes across as 4 or 5am here, but it is probably 7 or 8 am to him. Either way, it is WELL before.....hours before I ever post. You really are dumb as shit Moses.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You really are dumb as shit Moses.
    ...And you and Keystone are the ultimate chicken shits.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Actually, MP, Math Promoter, 50 hours a week is 2600 a year.
    Bob never said he plays 50 hours a week. He said 20 hours a weekend.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You really are dumb as shit Moses.
    ...And you and Keystone are the ultimate chicken shits.
    There is one other interesting thing Moses/UCFX. On your loony bin forum where you talk to yourself, you have at times suggested I was sockpuppets with several other members of the BJ community, including 21forme, Ryemo, and I believe Bosox.

    I network and communicate privately with 2 of these players.

    21forme, who hates it when I reference him, is quite a bit older than me, has been around the community probably a decade longer than me, is married, with adult children. Unlike myself he personally meets and plays with quite a number of players.

    Reymo, runs or used to run the blackjack accord site. That is where I met him and began communicating with him. Although he is closer to my age (a bit younger), he too is married I believe and he has small children. He has been around the community a lot less time than I. And he has done well for himself. Progressed faster than I did through my career, not that, that is a measuring stick.

    BoSox, I would say I am least familiar with. I don't even know what age range he might be. I think older, but I don't know why I think that. I rarely communicate privately with him, until a few PM's recently. I know him from several forums and he has demonstrated significant blackjack knowledge.

    BUT, what all these guys have in common with me is that we are all legitimate, knowledgeable, successful blackjack players and as such have recognized that you aren't. Remember the saying. "It doesn't take much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". We have all at some point, independently of each other, figured out that YOU, Moses are just talking. And in your case it really wasn't that hard, even though you have some blackjack knowledge. And it really pisses you off that most legitimate members of the BJ AP community figure out that you are not one of us, pretty easily.

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