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  1. #21
    Kj, to clear things things up for you. First, when I said Moses was “spot on”, I was referring to his recent post on Zenzone this morning.

    His opening sentence was “I stand corrected.“ When Moses and I make mistake we correct them. Neither Moses or I are questioning the facts Midwest player has given. Moses then went on to editorialize on the situation with Midwest player. When I said Moses was “spot on”, that’s what I was referring to... Moses’s editorialized comments.

    I know you want this to be an exclusive gambling site. Do you approve of people talking about snow or shoveling snow? Because that’s a major topic with Midwest player. And personally, I enjoy it because snow and shoveling snow have been forgotten topics within the AP community. It’s important to have someone in the AP community bringing these topics to the forefront. Since you live in Vegas, you probably don’t understand the full impact of snow and shoveling snow to people living in midwest player’s neck of the woods. I do, so I will always defend Midwest Player when he talks about these important topics.

    You are a whiner. The Biggest whiner I’ve ever seen on a forum anywhere. I’m surprise Dan puts up with you. But you’re good for entertainment value, so I wouldn’t kick you off either if I was running one of these forums.

    As far as how many forums I’ve been banned from, it’s only one. Blacjajck apprenticeship. And the main reason I was banned was because of my position on tipping. I’m for it! My belief is if you go broke tipping you probably shouldn’t be playing the game in the first place. Before I got banned, I got a personal email from Colin basically giving me “a shot over the bow”, telling me I should quit talking about tipping or include CVCX data showing how tipping negatively impacted my game. Since I refused to do that, on one of my next posts I got a follow up email from Colin banning me.

    I actually take pride in being banned from a forum that refuses to allow freedom of speech and gets upset with anybody who believes in tipping or defends casinos, like I do.

    I have NOT been banned from Blackjack the forum, Wizard of Vegas, or Blacjajck info. Or this site. Each moderator and owner of the site has the right to ban me if they want. If they do, I’m not coming back like a sock puppet like you do. You won’t see any Spiderman on this site if I should get banned.

    And I don’t care what anybody says this is the best gambling site on the Internet and it’s not even close. And yes Gambling and AP topics are discussed. It’s good to see Dan is allowing Moses’s good friend UCFX on this site. He’s made some excellent post since he’s been on here. I’m hoping to meet him and Moses and Tater and all of Moses‘s friends when I go out to visit Moses in Reno, hopefully within the next year.

    If you think Moses and I are such good friends, then go back and look at Blackjack the forum when I first got on there. We had a lot of feuds. The reason I changed my handle on this site is because I didn’t want Moses to know who I was. It was for no other reason.

    Obviously, my cover wasn’t good enough, since Bobo forum detective discovered the connection between dbs and bob fairly quickly. I’m hoping to meet Bobo some day so I can learn how he does all his detective work. He’s the best at this, and there is no one even close. If Bobo forum detective is as good at blackjack as he is at detective work then Bobo should be the next person inducted into the Blackjack Hall of Fame. There, I threw his hat into the ring.

  2. #22
    Nice post Bob. Btw, I'm a she, not a he. I think when you visit you see I don't look anything like a boy. lol I wouldn't even be posting today.

    However, Dan. Yet another thread is started in the name of Moses. Now after almost two months. Moses answered on Zen Zone. Then Bob answered which is fine. Then here comes the ranting feminine one followed by his dog.

    Dan, I'm compelled to say, that despite that fact you banned Moses, he has nothing but good things to say about you and your forum. By contrast, KJ constantly complains, i.e the thread Dan Shit or get off the Pot is just one example of the many times KJ calls you out. As you say, it's your forum and you'll do as you damn well please. Moses and I both applaud you for that and respect your position.

    Now, I ask you Dan. Given the same set of circumstances, if KJ and Keystone were to make continued monstrous accusations at your significant other and she couldn't respond. What would you do? My guess is there would be some noses bloodied and asses kicked.

    But these two monkeys continue to chatter with words they have absolutely no intention of backing up.

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Nice post Bob. Btw, I'm a she, not a he. I think when you visit you see I don't look anything like a boy. lol I wouldn't even be posting today.

    However, Dan. Yet another thread is started in the name of Moses. Now after almost two months. Moses answered on Zen Zone. Then Bob answered which is fine. Then here comes the ranting feminine one followed by his dog.

    Dan, I'm compelled to say, that despite that fact you banned Moses, he has nothing but good things to say about you and your forum. By contrast, KJ constantly complains, i.e the thread Dan Shit or get off the Pot is just one example of the many times KJ calls you out. As you say, it's your forum and you'll do as you damn well please. Moses and I both applaud you for that and respect your position.

    Now, I ask you Dan. Given the same set of circumstances, if KJ and Keystone were to make continued monstrous accusations at your significant other and she couldn't respond. What would you do? My guess is there would be some noses bloodied and asses kicked.

    But these two monkeys continue to chatter with words they have absolutely no intention of backing up.
    UCFX, sorry about the mixup on the gender. No insult intended.

    The two handles that are easy to keep straight are women are “Bubbles” and “Sassy Red”. With both of those handles, it’s pretty easy to figure out what their gender is.

    Sassy red was recently on Gambling with an Edge. Zee and I had a little running feud with her before we got kicked off BJA. Zee, because he didn’t agree with all the college kids dropping out of school to become bj pros and me, because I didn’t agree with Sassy red’s views on tipping.

    Sassy red had just quit her corporate job to become a full-time bj pro and said one of her goals was to tip less when she played. I made a comment questioning a goal like that. That’s an easy goal to accomplish. All you have to do is have less compassion for your fellow human being. That obviously didn’t go over well with the Blackjack Apprenticeship group and Sassy red. That comment also probably contributed to my demise on that site. Lol

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    I know you want this to be an exclusive gambling site. Do you approve of people talking about snow or shoveling snow? Because that’s a major topic with Midwest player. And personally, I enjoy it because snow and shoveling snow have been forgotten topics within the AP community. It’s important to have someone in the AP community bringing these topics to the forefront. Since you live in Vegas, you probably don’t understand the full impact of snow and shoveling snow to people living in midwest player’s neck of the woods. I do, so I will always defend Midwest Player when he talks about these important topics..
    I don't have a problem with Midwest Players references about the snow and shoveling and all. The first sites I was on were strictly blackjack sites and blackjack discussions, which is basically my life. But one of the things I liked about WoV is that in addition to AP/Gambling discussions, there were other topics. Being a huge sports fan, I like to talk sports. I also have an interest in politics, but have learned there can be no reasonable discussions about politics on these forums. Almost every forum related to gambling in any way has a section about Vegas, where you can discuss things not exactly gambling related, but just life in Vegas and I love Vegas, the city, the history. (Oddly on this forum every discussion is in the Vegas section, I have no idea why.)

    I actually am interested in learning a little bit about the people who are members of the forum, especially the AP's, because, AP is not just about what it stands for, playing with an advantage, it is a mindset and a way of life. And I am interested to read about other AP's and how this way of life, intertwines with their personal life, because it is VERY different than non AP's.

    So, in MWP's case, the snow is a big part of his AP life. Hell it snows there 10 months a year. And in Vegas for those of us that live here or visit regularly, the weather is also a big part of our lives, especially the summers.

    I lived in Philadelphia for 8 years, so I went through some winters, with snow and all. And I never liked it. So yeah, when my fellow AP's and members are bitching about digging out from 6 feet of snow in January to head to the casinos, I enjoy telling them that it is 65 degrees here in Vegas and I am wearing shorts. THAT is the trade off we get for enduring those 115+ temps in July and August.

    So yeah, I am ok, with more than just gambling/blackjack/AP talk. Actually one of my favorite things at WoV, was when Mission146 did the interview with me and I got to share my life and how my life as an blackjack player/card counter/ AP intertwined with my personal life.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    I actually am interested in learning a little bit about the people who are members of the forum, especially the AP's, because, AP is not just about what it stands for, playing with an advantage, it is a mindset and a way of life. And I am interested to read about other AP's and how this way of life, intertwines with their personal life, because it is VERY different than non AP's.
    Kj, this is an interesting paragraph. I get what you’re saying, but I don’t I agree with you. I think there are APs like me that see APing as being strictly about playing casino games with an advantage...and nothing more. I get we’re in the minority.

    But back to your main point. APing is about more than playing with an advantage; it’s “a mindset and way of life.” I understand your point, but, again, don’t agree with you.

    There was an excellent podcast on BJA where Colin interviewed Max Rubin. During the interview, Max made fun of the typical AP, and Colin got very uncomfortable. If I’d made the same comments Max made, everybody here would have called me a casino sympathize, an anti-AP and said this forum has become “unreadable” and asked to be self-excluded from this site. Btw, that’s an APs way of saying, I can’t handle a view point different than their own, or the typical AP viewpoint. Kj, you do this too, but everybody knows not to take you seriously since you’re too addicted to forums to stay away.

    Anyway, what did Max Rubin say about APs? His basic premise is APs are so cheap they can’t enjoy a night out. He said if they go to a bar in a casino, they would spend more time thinking about how to get a beer for free, than just paying for it, and enjoying a night out with their friends. He said they’d wonder how much video poker they’d have to play to get a free beer, how could they get the beer without tipping the waitresses, etc. They would be consumed by thinking how little money they could spend, rather than enjoying the evening.

    Max went on and on making fun of the AP mindset, and it started making Colin very uncomfortable. Because Colin and his BJA groupies think like this...every decision should be about EV and how you can get something for free or next to nothing. Sleeping and peeing in your car is seen as a postive EV move. Most normal people see this as being cheap.

    This is why some APs get uncomfortable with me since I don’t think like this. I want to play with an advantage and I take it very seriously, but the other things that are considered part of the AP mindset, I want no part of.

    I’ve known people like this throughout my life. I’d rather go through life with a little less money and tip and not try to always get the best bargain. Being cheap can take the fun out of being on vacation or spending a night out on the town. I figure I’m going to die with a lot more than I can spend so I might as leave some for people as I go through life, rather than be Mr. cheapskate with every decision I make.

    The more I listen to Max Rubin, the more I like him. He created a tourist trap (the BJ Hall of Fame) in his casino to attract people, but he still doesn’t let APs play in his casino. You got to love that. This is genius! He even called Colin out for some of his people trying to play in his casino. Max enjoys life no matter what side of the table he’s on, AP or casino. He can laugh and make fun of both sides. Wish more people were like this.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Okay Moses, just for you I will post the results of my last 13 sessions. Total win $5,632 or $75.60 per hour. Yes, as you say: "When the good Lord shine his light upon you, which clearly is the case, according to your results. You don't question. You don't expect/demand more. You simply give thanks."
    Holy smokes MP. Moneya Plenty. You won $5,632 in just 13 sessions and you're worried about renting a car to get from Denver to Blackhawk? IF you played green chip, full time, you could buy a car...in several states. You're doing better than Jesus. I can see it when you're standing at the Pearly Gates with St. Peter. Sorry, Moneya Plenty, God said "no." He doesn't want you coming here scaring off all the ploppies. So I'd nix that parachuting in idea.

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Remember the saying. "It doesn't take much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". .
    KJ walking the walk.


  8. #28
    I'll give UCFX the benefit of the doubt that she is not Moses. Moses is a MAN and she is a WOMAN.

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    I'll give UCFX the benefit of the doubt that she is not Moses. Moses is a MAN and she is a WOMAN.
    They`re both women

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    I'll give UCFX the benefit of the doubt that she is not Moses. Moses is a MAN and she is a WOMAN.
    They`re both women
    You still haven't PMed me. Don't get me wrong. I admire the fact a ploppy from LA, who visits Vegas a few times a year, is willing to go to such great lengths to stand up for a self professed PRO, that is not willing to back up his words. It takes courage to stand up for someone else. You will be doing the Blackjack community a great service by riding them of the evil Moses. I hope KJ will appreciate what you are doing for him. Not just KJ, but the entire Blackjack community of which he speaks will be forever grateful to you for coming out from behind your words and facing Moses down.

    They might even make you Mayor and vote you into the Blackjack Hall of Fame. Wouldn't that be something? A ploppy gets inducted. In your case, it will certainly be earned for all the words you will be backing up, like calling me a bitch, and all in the comments to incite since February 22 in your defense of KJ the great.

    We are only missing two minor details. Exactly when and where would you like this meeting to take place? Please, just answer the question. I will be off to church soon to forgive you for calling me a bitch. Thank you for that Bosox. I will pray for the good Lord to give you strength and courage during the Blackjack communities time of need. I do hope, for your sake, you are not the guy in the little video.
    Last edited by UCFX; 04-14-2019 at 08:32 AM.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    I'll give UCFX the benefit of the doubt that she is not Moses. Moses is a MAN and she is a WOMAN.
    They`re both women
    You still haven't PMed me. Don't get me wrong. I admire the fact a ploppy from LA, who visits Vegas a few times a year, is willing to go to such great lengths to stand up for a self professed PRO, that is not willing to back up his words. It takes courage to stand up for someone else. You will be doing the Blackjack community a great service by riding them of the evil Moses. I hope KJ will appreciate what you are doing for him. Not just KJ, but the entire Blackjack community of which he speaks will be forever grateful to you for coming out from behind your words and facing Moses down.

    They might even make you Mayor and vote you into the Blackjack Hall of Fame. Wouldn't that be something? A ploppy gets inducted. In your case, it will certainly be earned for all the words you will be backing up, like calling me a bitch, and all in the comments to incite since February 22 in your defense of KJ the great.

    We are only missing two minor details. Exactly when and where would you like this meeting to take place? Please, just answer the question. I will be off to church soon to forgive you for calling me a bitch. Thank you for that Bosox. I will pray for the good Lord to give you strength and courage during the Blackjack communities time of need. I do hope, for your sake, you are not the guy in the little video.
    Told you before, I think it`s pathetic when 4 or 5 nutless sheep gang up on one individual....thought it was weak in HS and think its weak now....Oh i get why people do it. Not comfortable in their own skin, need affirmation, low self confidence, safety in #`s, all that....I, however, don`t need a clique, I am the clique....get it?

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    I'll give UCFX the benefit of the doubt that she is not Moses. Moses is a MAN and she is a WOMAN.
    Well that probably doesn't surprise anybody…..you never were the sharpest tool in the shed. If UCFX is a woman, she probably has a bigger dick and mustache than Moses. I'm not buying "her" story nor do I care. This is one big comedy show with a bunch of terrible comedians…..

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Told you before, I think it`s pathetic when 4 or 5 nutless sheep gang up on one individual....thought it was weak in HS and think its weak now
    I agree. Perhaps if there were that many ganging up on poor poor KJ, maybe they had a point?

    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Oh i get why people do it. Not comfortable in their own skin, need affirmation, low self confidence, safety in #`s, all that....I, however, don`t need a clique, I am the clique....get it?
    You believe whatever you want or need to believe in order to face Moses. There is no clique. He is, has been, and will be in complete isolation waiting for your answer. Standing up for what you believe in? I respect that. So does Moses. It's going to be one helluva fight. WHEN AND WHERE?
    Last edited by UCFX; 04-14-2019 at 11:44 AM.

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    I'll give UCFX the benefit of the doubt that she is not Moses. Moses is a MAN and she is a WOMAN.
    Well that probably doesn't surprise anybody…..you never were the sharpest tool in the shed. If UCFX is a woman, she probably has a bigger dick and mustache than Moses. I'm not buying "her" story nor do I care. This is one big comedy show with a bunch of terrible comedians…..
    O that's cool. A man going after a woman because her belief doesn't agree with his? What are you going to do next? Break her ribs? What is it with you guys and your talk of mentulomania. Do you think it makes you sound tough? Comedy show is over. You'll have to get in line behind Keystone who is sticking up for KJ. Unless you are now sticking up for Keystone who was sticking up for KJ. Wow, Tasha. And men say women are confusing? lol

    What was that you said Keystone about cliques?

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    I'll give UCFX the benefit of the doubt that she is not Moses. Moses is a MAN and she is a WOMAN.
    Well that probably doesn't surprise anybody…..you never were the sharpest tool in the shed. If UCFX is a woman, she probably has a bigger dick and mustache than Moses. I'm not buying "her" story nor do I care. This is one big comedy show with a bunch of terrible comedians…..
    O that's cool. A man going after a woman because her belief doesn't agree with his? What are you going to do next? Break her ribs? What is it with you guys and your talk of mentulomania. Do you think it makes you sound tough? Comedy show is over. You'll have to get in line behind Keystone who is sticking up for KJ. Unless you are now sticking up for Keystone who was sticking up for KJ. Wow, Tasha. And men say women are confusing? lol

    What was that you said Keystone about cliques?
    Blablabla...…..barf……..Next please?

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    Blablabla...…..barf……..Next please?
    Ditto! Tasha, look who is speechless. A man? I use that term loosely.

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    Blablabla...…..barf……..Next please?
    Ditto! Tasha, look who is speechless.
    Ohh Moses tried to deliver a snappy comeback.....how exciting.

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    Blablabla...…..barf……..Next please?
    Ditto! Tasha, look who is speechless.
    Ohh Moses tried to deliver a snappy comeback.....how exciting.
    Blah. Blah. Blah. Just what we need...another forum queer. Is that you, like Blackhole said, KJ? lol What a worthless piece of mankind?

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    Blablabla...…..barf……..Next please?
    Ditto! Tasha, look who is speechless. A man? I use that term loosely.
    We already knew you were using that term loosely…… Moses/UCFX or whatever you want to call yourself

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    We already knew you were using that term loosely…… Moses/UCFX or whatever you want to call yourself
    Oh look, KJ tried to deliver a snappy response. Why don't one or all three of you worthless queers put on your big boy pants and put and end to this?

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