Originally Posted by mcap View Post
Nothing you can do talking reason with a guy like boob21. When you zig he is going to zag, and when you zag, he is going to zig. Unless you’re badmouthing or he can manipulate you into badmouthing BJA, then he will keep on course all day.
Macap, you just stole your line from Mickey. And Mickey came up with it because he doesn’t know how to debate or know what he believes.

Where have I ever zigged or zagged on this topic? I made a statement of fact. When an AP or gambler or anybody else wins money in a casino no value has been created. The same is true when someone wins the lottery. All that happens is money has changed hands from one party to the other. One party has more money, while the other party has less. It’s that simple.

If you give money to your kids or friends have you created value? Has this money taken on more value since it has changed hands? The answer is no. The same situation happens in a casino. No value has been created by moving money from one party to the other, be it the player to the casino...or the casino to the player.

This has nothing to do with being a liberal or a conservative. It’s just a fact that moving money from one person to another without anything occurring is not adding value. It’s that simple.

Why is this so hard for you - and other APs - to understand? This does not change the fact that I like to go to casinos and extract money from them by being a card counter. But I don’t have any illusions that I’m adding any value to society when I do this. It’s not a big deal, but it appears to be to APs.