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  1. #61
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    You can get this show for n/c with something my son recently installed on my TV--it's a "jailbroken firestick" with IP Vanish. Even gets recent movies like John Wick III and the new Godzilla movie and others. Even though I don't understand it or even want to understand it, it really an advantage play all-around. For certain Amazon Prime shows you have to disconnect the VPN to watch it.
    Sounds good but does it have the yes/no double up feature?

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    You can get this show for n/c with something my son recently installed on my TV--it's a "jailbroken firestick" with IP Vanish. Even gets recent movies like John Wick III and the new Godzilla movie and others. Even though I don't understand it or even want to understand it, it really an advantage play all-around. For certain Amazon Prime shows you have to disconnect the VPN to watch it.
    Sounds good but does it have the yes/no double up feature?
    Bosox, now that’s a good one. One of your better one liners. I laughed when I read it.

  3. #63
    Moses, I just read your comments on KC. Made me laugh. Yeah, this guy (KC) had a brutal 2 and a half month streach where he lost about $325,000. The movie shows his wins/losses at each casino. There for a while he was just getting hammered. He started out on a good winning streak, winning about $600,000, but then gave half of it back over the next two months, before it turned around again. At the end of 12 months, it looked like he won slightly more than half million. He was playing big stakes. His story was believable.

    When I watched the movie, I thought of Yoshi and Joe who have claimed to make a $500,000 to a million dollars year after year playing bj. On GWAE, Yoshi claimed to have several $100,000 winnning sessions. The majority of time, KC’s wins and losses were in the $10,000 and under range, and he was constantly getting kicked out. Yoshi said the casinos just let him hammer them for $100,000 without doing anything. Something didn’t sound right in their stories.

    It seems like lately there has been quite a few of these young kids (like in their 20s) on GWAE claiming to make big money in bj traveling the country. Makes Rob’s double up story seem like peanuts. Lol. Personally, I don’t think there are that many casinos that are going to let it happen. I mean it’s not like they haven’t seen a card counter before.

  4. #64
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    You can get this show for n/c with something my son recently installed on my TV--it's a "jailbroken firestick" with IP Vanish. Even gets recent movies like John Wick III and the new Godzilla movie and others. Even though I don't understand it or even want to understand it, it really an advantage play all-around. For certain Amazon Prime shows you have to disconnect the VPN to watch it.
    Sounds good but does it have the yes/no double up feature?
    Better than average humor. If you folks only knew how just mentioning that brings me back to the mountain top.....I've felt like a king every time I've walked into any casino over the past 15 years--even if I lose these days.

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    I just watched inside the Edge last night. I enjoyed the movie, even though it was mostly about being backed off as he drove around the country playing at different casinos.

    Something that didn’t make sense is when KC said he had to leave Vegas and could no longer play there since he was too widely known. I would think with all his disguises, he could have kept playing there for as long as he wanted.

    I figured that part was more of a plot device to justify his trip around America. At any rate, it was a good movie. It really showed the variance in the game as he went on a two month losing streak losing over $300,000 during this time.
    I haven't yet seen the documentary as I have been very busy racking up mega hours of late. Going to be doing extensive travel this summer beginning next week, so it is one of many things I can catch up with while flying.

    I really don't want to prejudge, but I feel like this story has already been told. Seems like the premise is not all that different than the Church team story and even a couple others, and while that was interesting to me, as a professional player I got a funny feeling from it like, the "goal" was really more about making the movie that anything else. And to make it interesting you need to focus on the heat, and backoffs, and create some sort of element of danger....James Bond-ish. Maybe Roinhood-esque.

    That really isn't what I consider professional blackjack play to be. Granted we are talking about an entirely different level (much higher stakes than I play) and much more of a slash and burn style. Not to pick on Colin or the church team or anyone from a couple of the other teams, or even a handful of solo players that engaged in this slash & burn "casino tour" and in a matter of months or a year or so at the longest, are unable to play almost anywhere. I mean shouldn't the goal be to achieve some sort of longevity? Years, decades of making a living, rather than a short time, which almost seems more about making a movie than anything else, followed by writing books and running bootcamps, and what not.

    There are a lot of players and I am not just speaking of these high profile players, that seem to think backoffs, barings, being read the trespass act are some sort of badge of honor. Like THAT verifies something. Frankly, I feel just the opposite, the real "achievement" is figuring out how to keep playing a winning for years and years. Figuring out what style and limits are tolerated. Again, that is just me. A different style, different limits and different goals I guess.

    Still, there is always something to be learned from other player's experiences....even if it is what NOT to do.

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    I just watched inside the Edge last night. I enjoyed the movie, even though it was mostly about being backed off as he drove around the country playing at different casinos.

    Something that didn’t make sense is when KC said he had to leave Vegas and could no longer play there since he was too widely known. I would think with all his disguises, he could have kept playing there for as long as he wanted.

    I figured that part was more of a plot device to justify his trip around America. At any rate, it was a good movie. It really showed the variance in the game as he went on a two month losing streak losing over $300,000 during this time.
    I haven't yet seen the documentary as I have been very busy racking up mega hours of late. Going to be doing extensive travel this summer beginning next week, so it is one of many things I can catch up with while flying.

    I really don't want to prejudge, but I feel like this story has already been told. Seems like the premise is not all that different than the Church team story and even a couple others, and while that was interesting to me, as a professional player I got a funny feeling from it like, the "goal" was really more about making the movie that anything else. And to make it interesting you need to focus on the heat, and backoffs, and create some sort of element of danger....James Bond-ish. Maybe Roinhood-esque.

    That really isn't what I consider professional blackjack play to be. Granted we are talking about an entirely different level (much higher stakes than I play) and much more of a slash and burn style. Not to pick on Colin or the church team or anyone from a couple of the other teams, or even a handful of solo players that engaged in this slash & burn "casino tour" and in a matter of months or a year or so at the longest, are unable to play almost anywhere. I mean shouldn't the goal be to achieve some sort of longevity? Years, decades of making a living, rather than a short time, which almost seems more about making a movie than anything else, followed by writing books and running bootcamps, and what not.

    There are a lot of players and I am not just speaking of these high profile players, that seem to think backoffs, barings, being read the trespass act are some sort of badge of honor. Like THAT verifies something. Frankly, I feel just the opposite, the real "achievement" is figuring out how to keep playing a winning for years and years. Figuring out what style and limits are tolerated. Again, that is just me. A different style, different limits and different goals I guess.

    Still, there is always something to be learned from other player's experiences....even if it is what NOT to do.
    Excellent post Kj. For the record, I feel the same way. With this said, I still enjoyed the movie. KC’s story was believable, and entertaining.

  7. #67
    Kew, That was a great post. You gave some insight on the game which you play and it was interesting.

  8. #68
    I have amazon prime so watched it there. The dude was slashing and burning across the whole US. He wont be welcome in a casino anywhere in short order.
    Keystone is a mental midget.

  9. #69
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    You can get this show for n/c with something my son recently installed on my TV--it's a "jailbroken firestick" with IP Vanish. Even gets recent movies like John Wick III and the new Godzilla movie and others. Even though I don't understand it or even want to understand it, it really an advantage play all-around. For certain Amazon Prime shows you have to disconnect the VPN to watch it.
    Rob, I thought you were a man of principle, what happened to you protecting yourself with your ten year statute of limitations theory? Did you privately record your son doing the installation on your TV set for "to cover your ass" the purpose of giving him a hard life lesson on how to keep things quiet? Anyway it seems like you passed down to your siblings all of your life's skills on how to buck the system with unsavory advantage plays, good job.
    Last edited by BoSox; 06-10-2019 at 03:25 AM.

  10. #70
    You certainly don't understand me Bo. You're talking to someone who made money filing a bankruptcy in 1996.

    I see myself as a refined product of the US Government. 10 years of training & work is all it took to master the art of becoming an advantage player in life. After that nasty career I literally ad-libbed my way into a decent aerospace career. And then came the video poker chapter--actually my finest moment. This firestick stuff is not even white noise.

    You learn early on that it's all a numbers game throughout life. Play it well and you live it well. People in general are the true assholes they are when they're driving. Remember that when you meet them at bars or social functions, shake their hands at business meetings, or talk sweet nothings to them over-the-counters. Think of how much better off you'd be if you only had to deal with dogs or horses instead. People take from you from the get-go, they will stab you in the back at your place of employment just to get ahead, they'll lie about you to others in order to appear superior to you, and they'll do things to you that you wouldn't conceive of doing to anybody ever.

    People are given a choice: live....or be eaten alive. And it almost always comes down to being about numbers. Learn to play the game WITHOUT HURTING ANYONE IN THE PROCESS, understand that financial institutions' #1 goal is to financially rape as many of their sheep as possible without regard, accept the fact that all politicians until Trump have not and do not care one bit about the lives of anyone other than themselves, respect your families and your bodies as the miracles that they really are, and you will have a great opportunity to lead a successful and fulfilled life.

    Go Bruins!

  11. #71
    Hey, Rob. How's the foot doing?
    Keystone is a mental midget.

  12. #72
    Rob singer wrote:

    You certainly don't understand me Bo. You're talking to someone who made money filing a bankruptcy in 1996.


    I know Rob you use every tool available to you, you should be so proud. That above quote says it all!

  13. #73
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Hey, Rob. How's the foot doing?
    The foot is in the boot. That should rhyme but it doesn't.

    Operation on the 21st to insert screws. Driving up to visit our daughter in Mn. as soon as the Dr. allows it. Should be in early August. Gonna be miserably hot this week. What's been my best summer advantage play? Before the electric company put in these non-tamperable electric meters around 1980, people used to flip them around on the hot summer weekends so they'd run backwards, and throw an old shirt over them to cover them up.

  14. #74
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Rob singer wrote:

    You certainly don't understand me Bo. You're talking to someone who made money filing a bankruptcy in 1996.


    I know Rob you use every tool available to you, you should be so proud. That above quote says it all!
    And I am. I should have added "...but I didn't have to".

    It's all in the way you choose to use your tools.

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Go Bruins!
    FAIL!!!!!!

  16. #76
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Go Bruins!
    FAIL!!!!!!
    Speaking of Bruins futures: https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...es-passed.html

  17. #77
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Hey, Rob. How's the foot doing?
    The foot is in the boot. That should rhyme but it doesn't.

    Operation on the 21st to insert screws. Driving up to visit our daughter in Mn. as soon as the Dr. allows it. Should be in early August. Gonna be miserably hot this week. What's been my best summer advantage play? Before the electric company put in these non-tamperable electric meters around 1980, people used to flip them around on the hot summer weekends so they'd run backwards, and throw an old shirt over them to cover them up.
    My dad did the same thing with those electric meters back in the 70's.
    Keystone is a mental midget.

  18. #78
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Go Bruins!
    FAIL!!!!!!
    Rob has had enough bragging rights with the Red Sox and Patriots.
    Keystone is a mental midget.

  19. #79
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Go Bruins!
    FAIL!!!!!!
    Rob has had enough bragging rights with the Red Sox and Patriots.
    Yeah I know, but it's fun to needle him a bit

    P.S. you forgot the Celtics back in the day.

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