Request For Mickeycrimm

[PositiveVariance]

I was just curious as to how common is it that higher amounts of free play are awarded for excessive wins. But I guess that is all part of the game for the guys that run multiple cards, obviously not something they will be very open about sharing, and I dont blame them.

That's alien to me. I don't have any idea what's meant by "excessive wins."

I am to lazy to go back and look at the actual post, but ultimately what he determined was that you can have 2 cards that both put $10k coin in for the day. However, on one of the cards a player hit a jackpot and is up $5,000 for the day. ADT for both players is identical but one player is up $5,000, the other down $300.

Every player that put 10k coin in gets $200 in free play weekly while the guy up $5k gets $800 weekly (not actual free play amounts, but it is many multiples over what other players got for same coin-in)

Have you read DarkOZ's thread on his "NY AP Play"?

There was a big ordeal over this post, where posters left as they felt that Information shouldn't be made public.

Essentially he was able to know prematurely if a hand was going to win or lose and pull the players card accordingly. This way he could show excessive wins on a card in order to get the generous free play offers.

That post, IMO was one of the top threads in WOV history. People were furious with him for sharing this.

[Don Perignom]

Hitting a huge jackpot on a play while playing on a card could do it. 50k MHB sort of thing. I've heard before that they'll give out more if you win simply because they want to get it back.

Fascinating.

So it would have to be excessive "win" (singular), lol. Because I'm pretty sure I've been no-mailed or promo-banned for excessive "wins" (plural) .

[Don Perignom]

Have you read DarkOZ's thread on his "NY AP Play"?

Yes, some of it. That aspect escaped my attention.

I'll try to have another look.

[PositiveVariance]

Have you read DarkOZ's thread on his "NY AP Play"?

Yes, some of it. That aspect escaped my attention.

I'll try to have another look.

This was the best part. Because without that information, the play is dead.

[Don Perignom]

This was the best part. Because without that information, the play is dead.

I looked again. I did read the thread originally, but it didn't register as directly relevant to me. And still doesn't.

That kind of stuff is the domain of teams and well-developed information sharing networks.

As pertains to Dan, I still don't see it as industry-normal to reward big winners. If anything it's the opposite. Some operators only send mailers to losers.

[Rob.Singer]

I was just curious as to how common is it that higher amounts of free play are awarded for excessive wins. But I guess that is all part of the game for the guys that run multiple cards, obviously not something they will be very open about sharing, and I dont blame them.

That's alien to me. I don't have any idea what's meant by "excessive wins."

"Excessive wins" is a term used by forum dwellers who have never experienced a winner in excess of $2000. They instead utilize their "excessive" spare time obsessing over players who actually DO hit large winners, trying to talk themselves into it just not bring real by making up whatever scenario it takes. Oh....and at the same time, they vehemently claim how they absolutely LOVE to hear about big winners at casinos.

[PositiveVariance]

I was just curious as to how common is it that higher amounts of free play are awarded for excessive wins. But I guess that is all part of the game for the guys that run multiple cards, obviously not something they will be very open about sharing, and I dont blame them.

That's alien to me. I don't have any idea what's meant by "excessive wins."

"Excessive wins" is a term used by forum dwellers who have never experienced a winner in excess of $2000. They instead utilize their "excessive" spare time obsessing over players who actually DO hit large winners, trying to talk themselves into it just not bring real by making up whatever scenario it takes. Oh....and at the same time, they vehemently claim how they absolutely LOVE to hear about big winners at casinos.

Says the person that believes in "Hot and Cold cycles"?
It is called "variance".
It's a math thing, you wouldn't understand.


Better yet, What about Video Poker telepathy?
We call it mentally insane.

If I am a "Forum Deweller" with less than 2,000 combined post across all forums, I would love to know what that makes you, an almost daily forum participant of nearly 3 decades?

[Rob.Singer]

That's alien to me. I don't have any idea what's meant by "excessive wins."

"Excessive wins" is a term used by forum dwellers who have never experienced a winner in excess of $2000. They instead utilize their "excessive" spare time obsessing over players who actually DO hit large winners, trying to talk themselves into it just not bring real by making up whatever scenario it takes. Oh....and at the same time, they vehemently claim how they absolutely LOVE to hear about big winners at casinos.

Says the person that believes in "Hot and Cold cycles"?
It is called "variance".
It's a math thing, you wouldn't understand.


Better yet, What about Video Poker telepathy?
We call it mentally insane.

If I am a "Forum Deweller" with less than 2,000 combined post across all forums, I would love to know what that makes you, an almost daily forum participant of nearly 3 decades?

Yes, you are a forum dweller when you continuously comb thru this forum looking for angles to slip in your influence. It's also not lost on anyone how much you desire respect. The ones who don't get any at home do that.

My participation? I respond to questions and comments directed towards me, with insults. The difference between you & I is you act like kew: as if anything anyone says or does that you don't particularly care for or take affront to, is something that irritates you to the core. I OTOH enjoy every minute I read and post....sort of like the devil out prowling for misguided souls.

Maybe you missed it--the hot & cold cycles thing along with the 5th card flipover and any other vp theories I put out there between 2004 and 2019, were nothing but distractions wholly intended to consume people like you and AP's in general, about me, while I put down the DU play and then spent 10 years after those two idiots ruined it for me, continuing to stay silent about it until all statute of limitations were satisfied. And who made up the telepathy thing? It's brilliant, if it kept you people occupied!

I've also since said many times that I believe in AP play and always have. Mickey told you why I chose my pen name, and my insults vs. AP's were all a part of my "structured revenge strategy" in order to get a level of satisfaction out of my failure to be a part time successful AP in the several years prior. Actually, I failed because I never had the time or drive to apply myself properly, as I was constantly traveling worlwide and only could pop into Nv. casinos during limited breaks home.

The strategy I played successfully and made good money on from 2000-2004 was developed using math for sustainability, but relied on a large bankroll ($57,200 per trip) a "small" 5% win & quit goal, and good luck. Back then many of the machines/games I played right up thru the $100 ones were slightly +EV, but my rather large comparative profit-making was more a product of luck.

I see why my vp accomplishments disturb you. I can only imagine what my personal life and accomplishments do to you.....

[jbjb]

You DID NOT put down any DU bug no matter how much you keep typing it out. So just STFU!

[PositiveVariance]

You DID NOT put down any DU bug no matter how much you keep typing it out. So just STFU!

Of course he didn't play the DU bug. It is incredible how Singer will keep referencing it, regardless of everyone knowing it's only a dream of his, something with not even a sliver of truth to it.

This is why I rarely read his replies, just another concocted story, due to some weird jealous hatred towards real winning gamblers.

His pure fabrication post yesterday about owning a Hellcat, would be the easiest to prove out of all his concocted fairy tales. Something as simple as providing a vehicle registration.

All we get is, "I don't care if you guys believe me or not".
There is nothing Rob Singer wants more than for his concocted stories to be excepted as reality. There is NO excuse for not having evidence of this vehicles ownership. Not wanting to provide it is another issue, but we all know why! Because there is NO evidence!


It says a lot when a guy can say with near certainty that a simple claim such as ownership of a specific vehicle is an outright lie! Imagine the past someone must have for another person to know that a simple claim of owning a nice sports car, (nothing spectacular, but nice, indeed) is an entirely made up claim to impress people on a forum?


If he thought KewlJ believed his stories, he would add 20 years to his life expectancy. There is something that kills him inside about not being believed by a real AP, let alone one that is openly gay. What makes it 100x worse for him, is he views KJ as "less than" because he is gay.


"Dale Gribble" aka Rob Singer thinking up his next fairy tale...

[MisterV]

PV, he might actually own that type of a car.

He traveled the Pacific NW, ostensibly in that car, and invited me to meet him to share a meal and view the car.

I passed, but the fact that he offered to meet me and let me check out his wheels implies he actually owns one.

But hey, Robert is a Master Troll, so you never know...

[kewlJ]

MrV, Rob also offered and made arrangements for both MaxPen and Dan Druff to meet him and view evidence of his latest jackpot claim (the one with the cursor and exercise equipment).

He could very well own the car he claims, but I wouldn't put much stock in that "offer to meet you". Rob loves wasting people's time, both in real life and online. That is the act of trolling and what trolls do.

[MisterV]

MrV, Rob also offered and made arrangements for both MaxPen and Dan Druff to meet him and view evidence of his latest jackpot claim (the one with the cursor and exercise equipment). He could very well own the car he claims, but I wouldn't put much stock in that "offer to meet you". Rob loves wasting people's time, both in real life and online. That is the act of trolling and what trolls do.

Correct, and as I posted previously I passed on the opportunity to meet him in Pacific City due to those concerns.

I did offer for him to jaunt to Lincoln City to meet me a Chinook Winds, and he too passed.

FWIW that isn't the type / model of car I'd choose to drive around / tour the country in, but to each his own.

[PositiveVariance]

PV, he might actually own that type of a car.

He traveled the Pacific NW, ostensibly in that car, and invited me to meet him to share a meal and view the car.

I passed, but the fact that he offered to meet me and let me check out his wheels implies he actually owns one.

But hey, Robert is a Master Troll, so you never know...

I hope he does. Because if you start lying about owning a modest "sports car", where do you go from there?

Like I have said many times, I as well as many here would love for the gambling claims to be true. The story tellers think, "their just jealous haters".

When people make up outrageous claims, everything they say gets questioned. Over the years, they will have a few "gotcha" moments.



Even if he were to show that he had owned one or does currently own one, this would prove my point about him wanting to be believed, and only providing actual evidence when a claim is true.

[MaxPen]

PV, he might actually own that type of a car.

He traveled the Pacific NW, ostensibly in that car, and invited me to meet him to share a meal and view the car.

I passed, but the fact that he offered to meet me and let me check out his wheels implies he actually owns one.

But hey, Robert is a Master Troll, so you never know...

I hope he does. Because if you start lying about owning a modest "sports car", where do you go from there?

Like I have said many times, I as well as many here would love for the gambling claims to be true. The story tellers think, "their just jealous haters".

When people make up outrageous claims, everything they say gets questioned. Over the years, they will have a few "gotcha" moments.



Even if he were to show that he had owned one or does currently own one, this would prove my point about him wanting to be believed, and only providing actual evidence when a claim is true.

It is more than likely his son in law's or something to that effect. Whatever though, he raised a good daughter that has made her parents life better in their later years. Not everyone can say that. So he did something right....RIP

[MDawg]

True, versus UNKewlJ who

was kicked out of his familial home for being an irritant.

[accountinquestion]

"Excessive wins" is a term used by forum dwellers who have never experienced a winner in excess of $2000. They instead utilize their "excessive" spare time obsessing over players who actually DO hit large winners, trying to talk themselves into it just not bring real by making up whatever scenario it takes. Oh....and at the same time, they vehemently claim how they absolutely LOVE to hear about big winners at casinos.

Says the person that believes in "Hot and Cold cycles"?
It is called "variance".
It's a math thing, you wouldn't understand.


Better yet, What about Video Poker telepathy?
We call it mentally insane.

If I am a "Forum Deweller" with less than 2,000 combined post across all forums, I would love to know what that makes you, an almost daily forum participant of nearly 3 decades?

Yes, you are a forum dweller when you continuously comb thru this forum looking for angles to slip in your influence. It's also not lost on anyone how much you desire respect. The ones who don't get any at home do that.

My participation? I respond to questions and comments directed towards me, with insults. The difference between you & I is you act like kew: as if anything anyone says or does that you don't particularly care for or take affront to, is something that irritates you to the core. I OTOH enjoy every minute I read and post....sort of like the devil out prowling for misguided souls.

Maybe you missed it--the hot & cold cycles thing along with the 5th card flipover and any other vp theories I put out there between 2004 and 2019, were nothing but distractions wholly intended to consume people like you and AP's in general, about me, while I put down the DU play and then spent 10 years after those two idiots ruined it for me, continuing to stay silent about it until all statute of limitations were satisfied. And who made up the telepathy thing? It's brilliant, if it kept you people occupied!

I've also since said many times that I believe in AP play and always have. Mickey told you why I chose my pen name, and my insults vs. AP's were all a part of my "structured revenge strategy" in order to get a level of satisfaction out of my failure to be a part time successful AP in the several years prior. Actually, I failed because I never had the time or drive to apply myself properly, as I was constantly traveling worlwide and only could pop into Nv. casinos during limited breaks home.

The strategy I played successfully and made good money on from 2000-2004 was developed using math for sustainability, but relied on a large bankroll ($57,200 per trip) a "small" 5% win & quit goal, and good luck. Back then many of the machines/games I played right up thru the $100 ones were slightly +EV, but my rather large comparative profit-making was more a product of luck.

I see why my vp accomplishments disturb you. I can only imagine what my personal life and accomplishments do to you.....

This deserves it spelled out.

Laughed outloud.

[accountinquestion]

"Dale Gribble" aka Rob Singer thinking up his next fairy tale...

Mixed race broke ass Monty Burns is a far better description.

[accountinquestion]

BTW folks listen to George Santos's speech yesterday. I swear he reads kewls posts.

[Rob.Singer]

PV, he might actually own that type of a car.

He traveled the Pacific NW, ostensibly in that car, and invited me to meet him to share a meal and view the car.

I passed, but the fact that he offered to meet me and let me check out his wheels implies he actually owns one.

But hey, Robert is a Master Troll, so you never know...

I hope he does. Because if you start lying about owning a modest "sports car", where do you go from there?

Like I have said many times, I as well as many here would love for the gambling claims to be true. The story tellers think, "their just jealous haters".

When people make up outrageous claims, everything they say gets questioned. Over the years, they will have a few "gotcha" moments.



Even if he were to show that he had owned one or does currently own one, this would prove my point about him wanting to be believed, and only providing actual evidence when a claim is true.

This is funny. A modest "sports car"? When was a 4-door sedan last identified as a sports car? Proof of a not-all-that-expensive Dodge Charger with a $50k modification and 1000hp? Next thing you'll be saying is I have no phone

PV continues to prove my point. He isn't street-smart, he's a geek at a computer, he has zero experience in the world outside of browsers, and he truly is one of the little people

Max, thanks for the kind words about my role as a dad. But her husband wouldn't know the difference between a sedan and an SUV.