Request For Mickeycrimm

[Rob.Singer]

Re: several comments axel posted.

I don't know much about the publishing business. GBC didn't either. They took on my book and off we went. I have no idea how many copies have been sold and I never cared. I think they printed too many--don't really know. I had an understanding with them that I wouldn't receive royalties money for 5 years, when it would be a 1-time lump sum. For the same reason I turned down payment for my GT article--even though it became the publication's most popular column ever and was the main driver behind their success for nearly 8 years--I wasn't concerned with getting money from my book: I was gambling up to $57,200 on near-weekly trips to Nevada for 4 years and then up to $5k/trip during my DU years. I simply wanted to get my point of view out to the playing public, and I didn't need that kind of money.

Axel, I'm the opposite of a pack rat. I don't keep texts 10 seconds past when I read them, and I don't keep tax returns and related financials past their required retention dates. And the fact that I was a vp writer wasn't a force in my not being concerned about future proof of the play. It was a cash cow, totally under only my control until I was either stopped by the law or the availability of the machines, or until illness came. In those situations, you do not get concerned with what other people might think or say more than a decade later. And even if I had been dumb enuf to take pictures or videos while playing under the lights, as you can clearly see, people who just don't want to believe things will concoct any and all reasons and theories as to why the info shouldn't be believed. I'm simply not the type of person who cares about that stuff, mainly because I've been thru and seen so much more than anything I've experienced in gambling, throughout my entire adult life.

As usual, kew continues to lie and make things up. Poor thing.

I might have time to look here once or twice a day, so I hardly read everything. It's nice to see all this interest and discussion about my vp achievements. The fact that they reside in perpetuity within your minds leads me to believe you're all not nearly as disbelieving as you wish to be seen as.

[redietz]

and steer people to respectable handicappers.

If this means what I think it means, then they were not respectable handicappers IMHO. That doesn't mean they weren't respectable people, nor do I take issue with them making a buck. I just don't understand why a winning handicapper would need or want investors or need to charge people for services. Obviously, there are always certain situations where multiple people could benefit.

Perhaps nowadays if someone has an edge while charging a small fee with an online setup to hundreds or thousands, it could be beneficial to the touts and punters.

I'm all ears if someone can show me verified long-term evidence of touts and the customers having an overall advantage. I have heard of possibly 2. Im hearing good things about unibated but that's not really a traditional tout service.

C'mon, Axel, don't be a moron. You use the phrase "handicapper" like some people use the phrase "doctor." There are brain surgeons and there are neonatal specialists and there are podiatrists.

The reality is, and has always been, that almost nobody who knows a particular sport intimately and wins is winning at other sports. The most you'll get is someone who wins at college football also wins at NFL or someone who wins at college football also wins at college hoops. That's about the max cross-pollination, and it's rare.

So anyone starting off with a bankroll under a million dollars will be hard-pressed, even if they are the best in the business at their sport, to make a living simply betting. Nobody wins at every sport, or even most sports, and nobody wins every year (I knew one guy who I believed did win every year -- that is one, as in singular). There is very rarely sustained consistency. That's what makes Fezzik's NFL so rare, and even he had the occasional terrible clunker year. I lose every six or seven years.

Very tough to just continually build a self-sustaining bankroll when you take a loss every four or five years, as even the best generally do, and hard to survive when you're betting a hundred events to two hundred events a year.

This idea you have that doctors should do brain surgery, deliver children, and operate on feet is absurd. Yeah, many try, but I wouldn't want to be their patient.

There are specialists. And they do win long term. But it's mainly in college hoops and, secondarily, college football.

[Rob.Singer]

Something I neglected to say: I appreciate the memory lane trip mickey mentioned. Dancer, The Queen, Skip Hughes, VPFree, arci....those were the days, and those were my power days in the vp world (2000-2009). It was a time of easy full RFB virtually anywhere for mid-level play. There was none of this "use your points" nonsense for meals, shows, etc. And cash back was worth it.

What I'm liking about all that is how it'll be a fond memory for me for many years to come. And while germ-attractors like kew will be sucking down his meals thru straws IF he ever makes it to his 50's, I'll still be clearly remembering all the glory days of my 2nd career. His fake trip back east, his phony surfing trip to LA with his made-up baby bro (you people DO realize that character is just another part of his make-believe "pro bj player" concoction....) and his bevy of lies is only to cover up the struggles with the aids virus he lives with, after letting sugar daddy constantly pump him thru his hemorrhoids and up his ass before he himself croaked of the disease.

I wish I had more time for this fun!

[mickeycrimm]

The reality is, and has always been, that almost nobody who knows a particular sport intimately and wins is winning at other sports.

Which begs a question. You've always had your nose way up Druff's ass. Talk about kissing and sucking up. You must be in love. He jumped out and had a good year in NFL for a change. You heaped lots of praise.

Now he's over in the sports betting section handicapping NHL, NBA, NFL all at the same time. You aren't over there calling him stupid like you are over here calling people stupid. WTF? Are you taking a prisoner or just sucking dick?

[mickeycrimm]

[QUOTE=redietz;168827]

Very tough to just continually build a self-sustaining bankroll when you take a loss every four or five years, as even the best generally do, and hard to survive when you're betting a hundred events to two hundred events a year.

Looks like an excuse for piss poor money management. But then you've recently shown your weakness in math.

[redietz]

The reality is, and has always been, that almost nobody who knows a particular sport intimately and wins is winning at other sports.

Which begs a question. You've always had your nose way up Druff's ass. Talk about kissing and sucking up. You must be in love. He jumped out and had a good year in NFL for a change. You heaped lots of praise.

Now he's over in the sports betting section handicapping NHL, NBA, NFL all at the same time. You aren't over there calling him stupid like you are over here calling people stupid. WTF? Are you taking a prisoner or just sucking dick?

I've always had my nose up Druff's ass? LOL. Like when I've told him multiple times that I owe him a punch in the face for allowing what's allowed on this forum? I've said that publicly on here more than once. I PMed him a couple of times saying the same thing. If that's sucking up, God bless you, mickey. Todd knows, even though he's about four inches taller and 40 pounds more than me, that if I meet him in person, he's 50/50 to get a stiff left jab.

Todd tackled multiple sports in the two-year initial Covid era, when staying on top of line moves and sit-outs (NBA) had much, much more clout than in normal times. His is an "AP" approach to sports betting, in case you haven't noticed, mickey. You know, "soft lines" and all that lingo. He'll learn, and he's learning, that jacks of all trades risk being masters of none.

He can read, like everyone else. I never said, "this stuff is true for everyone but Todd," or anything like that. He's making the same error that 95% of all handicappers, even the great ones, have made in the last 50 years. It's the same error that people like Stu Ungar and Phil Ivey and others have made. They blow what they made via what they do best on other aspects of gambling where they have no real expertise. Telling people this stuff usually has little effect. They have to learn their own limitations by blowing money. I'm doing people a favor, especially "APs," by telling them why they're wrong about this and that. I give Dancer credit. He dabbled, he experimented, and he publicly acknowledged he can't win at the poker or sports betting stuff.

But of course, all the "APs" on this forum think they can. Figure out who's likely correct, Dancer or you.

And that's the lesson for you, mickey. You're barely above civilian in some aspects of gambling, but you're not smart or disciplined enough to rein yourself in. You've never put yourself in a position to be evaluated by other people, which is one reason that you have little idea what you don't know.

[accountinquestion]

Lol ranting about APs.. I'm telling you guys. Every post with this goober has one of 3 themes.

Redoetz doesn't know enough to understand what valuable advice actually is. In his head everything he says is valuable while sharp people out here are rolling eyes at him infinitely.

[accountinquestion]

So instead of Billy waters he is bringing up Phil Ivey and Stu Unger. His obsession with famous ppl and feeling a need to insert them in his posts is a funny little trait of this clown. I guess it lends him gravitas as he'd like to say.

You know... if only they'd listened to someone like redietz.......... their lives would have been different!!!

[mickeycrimm]

The reality is, and has always been, that almost nobody who knows a particular sport intimately and wins is winning at other sports.

Which begs a question. You've always had your nose way up Druff's ass. Talk about kissing and sucking up. You must be in love. He jumped out and had a good year in NFL for a change. You heaped lots of praise.

Now he's over in the sports betting section handicapping NHL, NBA, NFL all at the same time. You aren't over there calling him stupid like you are over here calling people stupid. WTF? Are you taking a prisoner or just sucking dick?

I've always had my nose up Druff's ass? LOL. Like when I've told him multiple times that I owe him a punch in the face for allowing what's allowed on this forum? I've said that publicly on here more than once. I PMed him a couple of times saying the same thing. If that's sucking up, God bless you, mickey. Todd knows, even though he's about four inches taller and 40 pounds more than me, that if I meet him in person, he's 50/50 to get a stiff left jab.

Todd tackled multiple sports in the two-year initial Covid era, when staying on top of line moves and sit-outs (NBA) had much, much more clout than in normal times. His is an "AP" approach to sports betting, in case you haven't noticed, mickey. You know, "soft lines" and all that lingo. He'll learn, and he's learning, that jacks of all trades risk being masters of none.

He can read, like everyone else. I never said, "this stuff is true for everyone but Todd," or anything like that. He's making the same error that 95% of all handicappers, even the great ones, have made in the last 50 years. It's the same error that people like Stu Ungar and Phil Ivey and others have made. They blow what they made via what they do best on other aspects of gambling where they have no real expertise. Telling people this stuff usually has little effect. They have to learn their own limitations by blowing money. I'm doing people a favor, especially "APs," by telling them why they're wrong about this and that. I give Dancer credit. He dabbled, he experimented, and he publicly acknowledged he can't win at the poker or sports betting stuff.

But of course, all the "APs" on this forum think they can. Figure out who's likely correct, Dancer or you.

And that's the lesson for you, mickey. You're barely above civilian in some aspects of gambling, but you're not smart or disciplined enough to rein yourself in. You've never put yourself in a position to be evaluated by other people, which is one reason that you have little idea what you don't know.

If you think the forum should be censored then you should be banned for the false information you give.

I got news for you, you ain't go not punch, pussy. You can't even beat the flies off your ass. Any man can grab you with a hockey player grip and pound your head into sand.

Your insufferable arrogance is you think your speech should be published but anyone with a different opinion should be censored. You're a fascist. I detest motherfuckers that are against free speech. You deserve to be horsewhipped.

You are the king of false information. For years you told us that math is not strong in sports betting. That opinion is what counts. But then Billy Walters destroyed that illusion you painted. His handicapping is pure ass math. Of course you had to come out and attack it. He exposed you for the idiot you are.

[coach belly]

Todd knows, even though he's about four inches taller and 40 pounds more than me, that if I meet him in person, he's 50/50 to get a stiff left jab.

Plus, he's jacked.

If you traded punches, and landed 8 to his 5, how many punches over .500 would that be?

[PositiveVariance]

Just curious, which one of you guys is Druff speaking of when he said something to the effect of, "I was Playing VP with someone from Vegas Casino Talk"?

(This was on PFA radio)

[Don Perignom]

Just curious, which one of you guys is Druff speaking of when he said something to the effect of, "I was Playing VP with someone from Vegas Casino Talk"?

(This was on radio)

Here's the link to that, starting at 2:50:50 ...



I'm confused on the details. Apparently it was during Dan's previous trip to Vegas (presumably this year), at the same unspecified casino. The VCT guy was playing UX 10 play on the same machine as Dan's future jackpot. VCT guy hit a royal on one line, and Dan recalled: "I was happy for him because he's a nice guy, I like him ...."

That doesn't describe anyone on this forum .

I'm sensing there's more to the story about why this particular machine was being played.

[PositiveVariance]

Just curious, which one of you guys is Druff speaking of when he said something to the effect of, "I was Playing VP with someone from Vegas Casino Talk"?

(This was on radio)

Here's the link to that, starting at 2:50:50 ...



I'm confused on the details. Apparently it was during Dan's previous trip to Vegas (presumably this year), at the same unspecified casino. The VCT guy was playing UX 10 play on the same machine as Dan's future jackpot. VCT guy hit a royal on one line, and Dan recalled: "I was happy for him because he's a nice guy, I like him ...."

That doesn't describe anyone on this forum .

I'm sensing there's more to the story about why this particular machine was being played.

Thanks for tracking it down...

Yeah, I didn't think it sounded like one of the 12-14 regulars that post.


I thought there was more to Druff playing that machine as well. I just don't see him playing $100 per hand on a high variance game, with no upside. I'm sure he figured after the free play he will earn, at least he will be in positive territory.

[PositiveVariance]

Just curious, what kind of freeplay will you get for $300,000 coin in?

[Don Perignom]

Just curious, what kind of freeplay will you get for $300,000 coin in?

Did he mention his coin-in? I thought he said 2.5 to 3 hours of play, so I would have thought ~$150k. Many casinos on the strip are using theo to award points and comps. Theo can vary widely.

[PositiveVariance]

Just curious, what kind of freeplay will you get for $300,000 coin in?

Did he mention his coin-in? I thought he said 2.5 to 3 hours of play, so I would have thought ~$150k. Many casinos on the strip are using theo to award points and comps. Theo can vary widely.

I don't believe he specifically said, for some reason I was thinking 5 or so hours, but yeah it could very well be closer to 3 hours.

Also, I keep forgeting the FP amounts given in Vegas eat ass.

"Eat ass" probably wasn't the best reference since it may be a good thing to some of you.

[Don Perignom]

Also, I keep forgeting the FP amounts given in Vegas eat ass.

FP from points could range from 0.05% (for full-pay vp) to near 1% (for slots with 10% theo). But some resorts send big mail offers, which are really hard to pin down as a % of coin-in.

[PositiveVariance]

Also, I keep forgeting the FP amounts given in Vegas eat ass.

FP from points could range from 0.05% (for full-pay vp) to near 1% (for slots with 10% theo). But some resorts send big mail offers, which are really hard to pin down as a % of coin-in.

I know most are based of theo, I remembered that DarkOz post on WOV for his "NY AP play", where he determined the Free Play for excessive Winning was issued at a much higher level than the typical percentage of Theo.

I was just curious as to how common is it that higher amounts of free play are awarded for excessive wins. But I guess that is all part of the game for the guys that run multiple cards, obviously not something they will be very open about sharing, and I dont blame them.

[Don Perignom]

I was just curious as to how common is it that higher amounts of free play are awarded for excessive wins. But I guess that is all part of the game for the guys that run multiple cards, obviously not something they will be very open about sharing, and I dont blame them.

That's alien to me. I don't have any idea what's meant by "excessive wins."

[accountinquestion]

I was just curious as to how common is it that higher amounts of free play are awarded for excessive wins. But I guess that is all part of the game for the guys that run multiple cards, obviously not something they will be very open about sharing, and I dont blame them.

That's alien to me. I don't have any idea what's meant by "excessive wins."

Hitting a huge jackpot on a play while playing on a card could do it. 50k MHB sort of thing. I've heard before that they'll give out more if you win simply because they want to get it back. Seems counterintuitive at first.