Advantage play / cheating / crime....where is the line?

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Rob Singer wrote:

The first thing people like you would need to know is that finding this and executing this play in an actual casino setting, where you have no idea what might happen to you at any time, completely alters your world in a way only YOU can understand. It is not anything like a years-later discussion amongst people who had no skin in the game back then.


At least there is no mistaking on your part Rob that you were aware you were engaged in criminal activity. Of course, if you actually did partake in the endeavor itself.


There is never an "eye-in-the-sky review" of a vp taxable win unless there is a valid reason for it,


That is a strong assumption on your part that there is never an exception to the rules.

What I can say for sure Bosox, is that at the Atlantis (Reno, not the Bahamas), about 1 1/2 years ago, I sat down to spin off some free play within eye-shot of a guy who was waiting to get paid off on a $48K VP Jackpot (extremely likely non-vultured - it was a civilian from what I could tell). The brass went through that thing with a fine-toothed comb - head tech and all of the shit. The dude looked like a wealthy civilian and it was on a UX, so it was too new to be a Nestor/Kane play (I don't think it was vultured). As far as I'm concerned large jackpots can get sweated - I'm not saying they do all the time, but you're taking a risk when you pull this w2g shit on a move like the Nestor/Kane one.

Anyway, in today's casino environment, your denomination range is going to be way more limited (as Ron pointed out when describing the Nestor/Kane move) than yesteryear, since 5c and 10c might have the same pay table, and then 25c,50c and $1 might be the same (but not the same as the 5c/10c). Plus, you're almost always going to have to interact to request the double-up, unlike years past (as Ron pointed out as well during the play description).

Sometimes when casinos that have closed down want to maintain their license, they bring out old shit for people to play for a couple of days . . .

edit:didn't see JBJB's post confirming that EITS gets involved when I made my post (thanks JBJB)