Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
My opinion on whether my finding of and then using the double up glitch was legal or not? It probably doesn't come from the same perspective as anyone else here. I have never led the life of a law-breaker, yet I sat at machines and closely examined two home machines and casino machines after finishing my weekly SPS play for the better part of 4 years, not really knowing what I was doing or looking for. I did, however, expect something could be done in the ONLY machine mode where when a hand is "over" it really isn't over. But when that light upstairs suddenly came on (ie, I caught the bill feeder light being on out of the corner of my eye before the hand was "really over") then my efforts seemed worth it.

To be honest, I truly didn't know and still don't, if what I did was illegal or not. I do not know if just because the feds dropped the case, if that meant what I did was legal. I always felt the state could keep pursuing a case. I try to rationalize the fact that I refused to ever use an existing hand I did not play for or hit, and how I never used any winners I hit more than once, as the moral equivalency of it possibly being legal. But that's all I have. The way the Kane case closed down helped, but because it seemed sloppy and you can never 100% trust anything when it comes to issues like this, it didn't guarantee anything to me. That's why I waited out the 10 years.

Dan, ATM's are a COMPLETELY different animal. You know that.
It looks like Dan hasn't yet caught up with the fact that Rob is claiming to have worked the same glitch as Kane and Nestor.
I agree. I'm thinking he must be heavily involved with getting ready for the WSOP.