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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    What's their highest denomination machine? Anything over $5 would be worth a trip to me now that I can move again.
    $2
    They do have $1 10 play
    Those don't give full points unless I missed something. I only found single line dollars that do. Its been a few weeks so anything can change.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 11-05-2019 at 03:46 PM.

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Thanks. I think I read the last time that there was only 1 or 2 of the 10-plays. Likely will be taken day and night.
    They have been open most of the time. Obviously if your system works(FYI it doesn't) full points are almost meaningless. I would be more than happy to observe you play.

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Thanks. I think I read the last time that there was only 1 or 2 of the 10-plays. Likely will be taken day and night.
    They have been open most of the time. Obviously if your system works(FYI it doesn't) full points are almost meaningless. I would be more than happy to observe you play.
    Bottom line question. Is DG Smart, stupid, desperate, dreaming or all of the above?

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  5. #25
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Thanks. I think I read the last time that there was only 1 or 2 of the 10-plays. Likely will be taken day and night.
    They have been open most of the time. Obviously if your system works(FYI it doesn't) full points are almost meaningless. I would be more than happy to observe you play.
    First, my play strategy does work because it has. And, it cannot be used on anything but 6 denominations with the same ratios between denominations as I played it. Anything other than that would not be my strategy. But it is correct to say that slot club benefits are meaningless when playing it. I did not count them into my results at all.

    That said, I would make the trip if there were >$5 machines to play ddbp on a single denomination that includes no reduction or elimination of slot club benefits, and I would never mind anyone watching. Like I've said, I stopped playing my strategy in 2004. I stopped playing the double up flaw in 2009. Since then, I do my best to only play with an edge with club benefits etc. etc. like any AP does.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    desperate
    Well opening a casino off Fremont, with renovated modern rooms with strip rates wasnít exactly the best idea. Trying to make your pool a destination (see Picnic) like a strip pool wasnít exactly the best idea. Willing to match strip casino players offers wasnít exactly the best idea. Hiring strip casino hosts with guaranteed salaries under the impression they would bring strip players DT wasnít exactly the best idea.

    So we are not exactly dealing with casino marketing geniuses here.

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I will look next time I go there. I thought they had some machines near the hallway that didn',t but I cant say for sure. Whatever the case, its still good to have 99% of their machines paying 100%+. I was there a few weeks ago and only a few pro's came in late night to play the bar. I don't think most AP's checked the bar points.
    Great Axel. Hopefully they will comp you in some way (restaurant vouchers/free play/cranking up one or more of DW,JP,BP or the other non-DB/non-DDB themes on the non-DB/non-DDB VP machine to 100%+) if you find machines with VP on them that don't have DB/DDB on them and also don't have any other VP on them with w/ 100%+ payback. I'm not suggesting that you get gaming involved if they false advertise, but obviously there are some people that would if they aren't comped for pointing out the false advertising.

    I am having a pipe-dream right now where you find a machine with OEJ on it there that has no DDB/DB and the slot manager has the slot attendant make the OEJ into the ace-line 101.5% OEJ game to comp you for the inconvenience.

  8. #28
    I believe they are smart enough to make their claim true, in the spirit of Nevada gaming law.

    That said I’m not sure it brings in the clientele they are looking for. But they are willing to accept the AP’s advantage in the false belief that others will show up and lose enough to cover the potential AP winnings.

    While I don’t expect anyone to give their secret success to casino ownership, what exactly can this place do to increase handle to make themselves more attractive to a potential buyer.

    Any intelligent potential buyer would see through this desperate attempt at producing volume. But what options do they have in an over saturated market, while in a bad location?

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    I believe they are smart enough to make their claim true, in the spirit of Nevada gaming law.

    That said Iím not sure it brings in the clientele they are looking for. But they are willing to accept the APís advantage in the false belief that others will show up and lose enough to cover the potential AP winnings.

    While I donít expect anyone to give their secret success to casino ownership, what exactly can this place do to increase handle to make themselves more attractive to a potential buyer.

    Any intelligent potential buyer would see through this desperate attempt at producing volume. But what options do they have in an over saturated market, while in a bad location?
    Turn it into a barcade with 50 pristine pinball machines (all eras) in addition to the current existing gaming inventory ;-)

  10. #30
    SKYLINE is a way better play than DTG, not even close really.

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