Originally Posted by seemoreroyals View Post
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post

No, I'm not comparing 8 years to 2 years. Read the article again. It compares the first 645 days of each presidency. If you want to compare 8 years to 2 years it would be 182% for Obama to 29% for Trump.

I will agree with you on one point, and that is the market was bottoming when Obama came into office, but don't say the market has done better under Trump than Obama because it is not true.
"There are 3 kinds of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics." Mark Twain

The market had bottomed at 8000 when Obama took over. By August 2011 the market was at 11,000. That's not 183%. More like 37%. It was helped along by zero percent prime rate. But that rise did nothing for job creation. Unemployment was at 9% in 2009 and 8.5% in 2011. And the 8.5% figure is somewhat phony because so many people had quit actively looking for work. The Trump stock market rise put a lot of people back to work and those already working saw pay increases.
And then there is the 4th type of lie. That told by either Mickey Crimm, Rob Singer, or Donald J. Trump. Basis for their facts is either Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, or some other misinformed like minded individual. The purpose of their lies is to intimidate or influence weak minded or uneducated people that are not able to look at both sides and decide for themselves.
And you have to cobble together the poor/welfare class, gays, immigrants, minorities and rich elites to try and win in 2020 because everyone else is against you.