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  1. #101
    Originally Posted by seemoreroyals View Post
    Danny, debt and deficits are sure to continue to get worse if Trump gets reelected. My wife and I paid twice as much in taxes as we did before the top one tenth of one percent tax cut went into effect. Much of ours is because my wife gets a lot of hand pays each year and the ability to offset on our tax return was largely eliminated making us have to pay tax on the majority of her w2g's. Like most people that go to the casino overall we lose more than we win most but that does not matter to the IRS in determining gambling wins and losses. Much of the excess $1 trillion of debt that has been created during Trump's tenure has to do with excess spending but I think that much of it has to do with the top tax payers contributing less in revenues. It's the same thing all over again promised when the r's were able to take control of all three branches of government.

    We need someone that can work with both d's and r's and get stuff done and cut spending. I did not vote for Trump but I was hopeful that his partisanship to his 30% would give way to willingness to work with the congress and the senate to pass common sense measures that would be good for everyone. And sadly, looking at his body of work, as long as he remains in office I do not expect anything to change.

    More insults. More snake oil salesmanship. More adoration of Putin and falling in love with the Korean dictator. More obsessing over building a wall and blaming all of our social problems on people of color. More taking credit for good will and accomplishments that were actually achieved by others. More blaming others for his own ineptness and self-created problems. More undermining democracy by attacking the media for keeping us informed and telling us like it is whether we like it or not. These are just some of the underlying habits and beliefs that define Trump's presidency that will lead to further damage to our country if Trump is reelected.
    The change in the standard deduction did not eliminate my ability to deduct losses. It just meant that I had to bring back in to my tax calculation all the stuff that I could have just not worried about and taken the new higher standard deduction if I didn't have gambling income and associated losses. But I live in a high tax state where that $10K max on local and state tax payments is not hard to hit. So on MFJ, it's another $14K of deductions before you exceed the standard, which can include charitable donations. At $1200 a pop minimum it's not that many handpays before you're over it.

  2. #102
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    LOL. Don't let me put words in your mouth, so correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that you just admitted that the "everyone else" you mention above is outnumbered by the "poor/welfare class, gays, immigrants, minorities, and rich elites." So, if that's the case, then isn't that the way democracies are supposed to work -- you know, the folks who outnumber the other folks (and vote) get their candidates in office? Or is it supposed to work another way?

    Trump is obviously not a shoo-in, precisely because the, ahem, poor/welfare class, gays, immigrants, minorities (soon to not be minorities), rich elites, and let's not forget the socialists -- they outnumber the "everyone else." Plus the "everyone elses" are older and dying off faster than the list previously mentioned. Now last I checked, and again, correct me if I'm wrong, I thought that was the way democracies worked.

    Of course, if you're advocating for something other than a democracy, I'm all ears.

    Two notes from me:

    1) I was horrified to find the kind of blowback Biden caught from Latino organizations for stating a couple of practical immigration policies. I cannot believe that family reunification is supposed to (pardon the pun) trump the pragmatics of immigration. The United States does not have unlimited resources, regardless of how much we blow on defense spending.

    2) Conservative radio host Joe Walsh delivered some hard-hitting anti-Trump interviews in the last few days, basically finally saying what I can't believe conservatives have kept a lid on for months.
    Redietz, this might be the stupidist post you've ever made. You imply I'm against fair elections. GTFO. The "everyone else" I'm referring to is the working class who have taken it up the ass for 30 years while your precious democrats take care of the poor/minorities/gays/immigrants. The working class is sick and tired of no representation. And then that "if you're advocating for something other than a democracy" bullshit. Get the fuck out you fucking buffoon. Or should I say "If you are advocating for a civil war I'm all ears."

    PS: Joe Walsh is a wingnut.

    You know, mickey, the "working class," which by your definition doesn't include "poor/welfare class, gays, immigrants, minorities" and socialists, I suppose, evidently doesn't outnumber "everybody else" (according to you). So what's your beef? If they haven't voted their interests, and they're outnumbered, what exactly are you complaining about? You don't like a two party system with nobody catering to the working class? Great -- welcome to the club. You may be a card-carrying communist and not know it.

    Meanwhile, mickey aside, here's a column by an author whose book, The Death of Expertise, I loved. He's an international specialist with a Russia focus who teaches at the U.S. Naval War College. Not exactly a wingnut.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...an/2013614001/

    I have absolutely no idea how anyone following Trump for 40 years could possibly draw the conclusion he would be a working class champion. It requires you to prioritize what he said for 18 months during the campaign over what actions he took for 35 years. We're talking about 3500 lawsuits against subcontractors or launched by subcontractors because he refused to pay them. It was his standard operating procedure. If that's how you make decisions, okay, more power to you.

    Trump was so desperate for loans in the early 90's, he tried to acquire some money from Las Vegas sources. The conversations did not go well. He then began his relationship with Deutsche Bank -- after what most people would consider a last ditch effort.
    Redietz, you are really going off the deep end here lately. Do you think I give a rats ass about what a TDS Never Trumper has to say? I already studied them assholes. They're bullshit. Nichols is just another wingnut pushing an agenda. Then you come up with the weirdest shit "40 years Trump didn't do anything to show he's a working class champion." WTF? Oh, thats right, you're a far left TDS socialist. It ain't that 40 years. It's what he campaigned on and followed through on.

    Seal the border
    Cut taxes
    Cut regulations
    Create jobs
    Tariffs on goods of the companies that move out of US
    Repeal Obamacare

    That's what makes him a working class champion. And he's gotten most of it done. He's still plugging away on getting the border sealed, though the asshole dems fight him every step of the way. Dems are phony hypocrites because they used to be for sealing the border until it became a Trump cause. He couldn't repeal Obamacare because of traitor John McCain who stabbed the working class in the back just to get Trump. But he did get rid of the individual mandate.

    There's another thing I like about Trump. For decades you lefties have had it your way with the name calling. Calling conservatives racists, fascists, nazis and a host of other viscious names. Bush43, McCain, Romney were all called that by you lefty trolls. No pushback. They didn't say jackshit back. Now comes someone, Donald Trump, that pushes back. Calls you unscrupulous lefty, socialist punks what you are, SLIMEBALLS!!!

    And you lefties go into convulsions over it. "Woe is me!!! Woe is me!!! Boohoo!!! Boohoo!!! Trump called me a name!!! He can't do that!!! I'm a lefty!!! I have a right to call him names!!! He doesn't have a right to call me names!!!! He's!!!! He's!!! He's a moron!!!! Yeah, thats it!!! He's an idiot!!! Thats the ticket!!!! Trump has to go!!! Trump has to go!!! He can't call me names!!! Where's my safe space?"

    That's why you lefties detest Trump. He pushes back on you name calling socialist idiots and you can't stand it. Its been a pleasure watching you lefties have to take a dose of your own medicine. And it's been an orgasmic pleasure watching you lefties squeal like pigs over it. A bunch of banshee chickens. Squak!!! Squak!!! Squak!! LMAO at you sissified punks.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 08-17-2019 at 03:07 AM.
    "It is worth noting that those that have never lived under socialism adore it while those that have lived under socialism hate it." Gerry Kasperov

  3. #103
    [QUOTE=mickeycrimm;91646][QUOTE=redietz;91607]
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    That's why you lefties detest Trump. He pushes back on you name calling socialist idiots and you can't stand it. Its been a pleasure watching you lefties have to take a dose of your own medicine. And it's been an orgasmic pleasure watching you lefties squeal like pigs over it. A bunch of banshee chickens. Squak!!! Squak!!! Squak!! LMAO at you sissified punks.
    It is amazing how you frame this guy as some strong tough guy. He's basically a bully. Not all of his policies are horrible, but as a leader the guy is horrible. I barely pay attention to what the early stage dementia mother fucker says these days. Yea, those who detest Trump are the "sissified punks" because they don't idolize a grown man on a level that is a bit <ahem> embarrassing. Who do you say this shit for?

  4. #104
    [QUOTE=accountinquestion;91671][QUOTE=mickeycrimm;91646]
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    That's why you lefties detest Trump. He pushes back on you name calling socialist idiots and you can't stand it. Its been a pleasure watching you lefties have to take a dose of your own medicine. And it's been an orgasmic pleasure watching you lefties squeal like pigs over it. A bunch of banshee chickens. Squak!!! Squak!!! Squak!! LMAO at you sissified punks.
    It is amazing how you frame this guy as some strong tough guy. He's basically a bully. Not all of his policies are horrible, but as a leader the guy is horrible. I barely pay attention to what the early stage dementia mother fucker says these days. Yea, those who detest Trump are the "sissified punks" because they don't idolize a grown man on a level that is a bit <ahem> embarrassing. Who do you say this shit for?
    A "strong tough guy" in Washington is anyone who isn't intimidated by lefty loons' hypocrisy and gives better than he gets. And while half the country appreciates this "tough guy" for his policies and for his not backing down from the constant lies, conspiracy theory hoaxes, and whiny "racism" claims of the liberals, the other half has a bunch of Hollywood jealous nut jobs along with an absurd collection of foreigners, illegals, minorities, and queers....basically, those who don't really count.

    He wins just about everything that's important. Why the dems are clinging onto another wet dream against this highly intelligent, charismatic and true-to-his-word guy, is the right wonder of the modern world. Unless, of course, you throw in Epstein's picture of pervert Bill Clinton in a blue dress with red pumps. How proud you people must be.

  5. #105
    I actually like Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton on the other hand, I think she's a terrible person. Unfortunately, I think she now wears the Dyke pants in that family.

  6. #106
    The left: trump is a moron! He’s a racist! He’s a fascist! He’s a nazi!

    Trump: the left wing and mainstream media are a bunch of looney tunes!

    The left: trump shouldn’t use such divisive rhetoric!
    "It is worth noting that those that have never lived under socialism adore it while those that have lived under socialism hate it." Gerry Kasperov

  7. #107
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    The left: trump is a moron! He’s a racist! He’s a fascist! He’s a nazi!

    Trump: the left wing and mainstream media are a bunch of looney tunes!

    The left: trump shouldn’t use such divisive rhetoric!
    Healthcare was mandated under Obama (you must pay for other peoples health care !!) - a nazi/fascist if there ever was one.
    Last edited by tableplay; 08-17-2019 at 11:54 PM.

  8. #108
    Someone explain this one to me. My wife suddenly gets deathly ill, can't hold anything down and says she feels horrible. We go to the emergency room where they determine she needs transfusion for stomach virus. Our insurance is charged $8,000 and we're left with $400 out of our pockets- and oh, yeah- there was someone there while she was being taken care of to find out how we'd pay! We were charged $900 EACH for two rooms- I guess one must have been the xray room where she spent two minutes. To make a long story short, our physician said yeah, if it had been during the day for an office visit, our bill would have been $200. Who's responsible for outrageous discrepancy? Reminds me of the epi pen guy who went from $14 to $400.

  9. #109
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Healthcare was mandated under Obama (you must pay for other peoples health care !!) - a nazi/fascist if there ever was one.
    The thing about healthcare premiums is they are not graduated according to income like the income tax. The middle class is vastly larger in population than the upper class. That means the middle class is footing the bill for the healthcare of the poor.
    "It is worth noting that those that have never lived under socialism adore it while those that have lived under socialism hate it." Gerry Kasperov

  10. #110
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    The left: trump is a moron! He’s a racist! He’s a fascist! He’s a nazi!

    Trump: the left wing and mainstream media are a bunch of looney tunes!

    The left: trump shouldn’t use such divisive rhetoric!
    Healthcare was mandated under Obama (you must pay for other peoples health care !!) - a nazi/fascist if there ever was one.
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Someone explain this one to me. My wife suddenly gets deathly ill, can't hold anything down and says she feels horrible. We go to the emergency room where they determine she needs transfusion for stomach virus. Our insurance is charged $8,000 and we're left with $400 out of our pockets- and oh, yeah- there was someone there while she was being taken care of to find out how we'd pay! We were charged $900 EACH for two rooms- I guess one must have been the xray room where she spent two minutes. To make a long story short, our physician said yeah, if it had been during the day for an office visit, our bill would have been $200. Who's responsible for outrageous discrepancy? Reminds me of the epi pen guy who went from $14 to $400.

    The answer is the great short post # 107 by tableplay right above yours.


    The simple deduction is that the haves have to pay for the have nots. Now you must realize that you failed miserably the requirements for being a far left nut job. As it is not enough to simply pay for others health care you must be appreciative "be happy" that you are doing your fair share.
    Last edited by BoSox; 08-18-2019 at 05:15 AM.

  11. #111
    I've met a lot of veterans in the bars in Helena, Montana. From old veterans whose health is going bad to young guys that were shot up in Iraq or Afghanistan. And I've learned things from them. There aren't any great VA hospitals. It's just that some are better than others. The one in Helena is known as one of the better ones. Consequently, there is an inordinate amount of veterans living in Helena. One of the things they told me about was the undesirable list the VA maintains. This list is for veterans who are deemed to disruptive to provide healthcare for. They are excluded from healthcare services. If you complain to much about the long wait times or shoddy healthcare you can find yourself on the list.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 08-18-2019 at 05:25 AM.
    "It is worth noting that those that have never lived under socialism adore it while those that have lived under socialism hate it." Gerry Kasperov

  12. #112
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Someone explain this one to me. My wife suddenly gets deathly ill, can't hold anything down and says she feels horrible. We go to the emergency room where they determine she needs transfusion for stomach virus. Our insurance is charged $8,000 and we're left with $400 out of our pockets- and oh, yeah- there was someone there while she was being taken care of to find out how we'd pay! We were charged $900 EACH for two rooms- I guess one must have been the xray room where she spent two minutes. To make a long story short, our physician said yeah, if it had been during the day for an office visit, our bill would have been $200. Who's responsible for outrageous discrepancy? Reminds me of the epi pen guy who went from $14 to $400.
    Go to a walk in next time.
    I'll miss Alan's profound stupidity.

  13. #113
    Originally Posted by quahaug View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Someone explain this one to me. My wife suddenly gets deathly ill, can't hold anything down and says she feels horrible. We go to the emergency room where they determine she needs transfusion for stomach virus. Our insurance is charged $8,000 and we're left with $400 out of our pockets- and oh, yeah- there was someone there while she was being taken care of to find out how we'd pay! We were charged $900 EACH for two rooms- I guess one must have been the xray room where she spent two minutes. To make a long story short, our physician said yeah, if it had been during the day for an office visit, our bill would have been $200. Who's responsible for outrageous discrepancy? Reminds me of the epi pen guy who went from $14 to $400.
    Go to a walk in next time.
    Hard to find at midnight.

  14. #114
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Who's responsible for outrageous discrepancy?
    Health Insurance companies, who have inserted themselves between health providers and customers. Aren't they wonderful ?

  15. #115
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Who's responsible for outrageous discrepancy?
    Health Insurance companies, who have inserted themselves between health providers and customers. Aren't they wonderful ?
    OK. Forgive my ignorance. Are you saying they're getting repaid for their participation?

  16. #116
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Who's responsible for outrageous discrepancy?
    Health Insurance companies, who have inserted themselves between health providers and customers. Aren't they wonderful ?
    OK. Forgive my ignorance. Are you saying they're getting repaid for their participation?
    Sling, everybody knows why emergency rooms charge outrageous amounts for services you can get at your Doctor's office. Your doctor only sees paying customers, while that emergency room treats everyone, and many of those are illegals who go there for common colds, pregnancy and delivery, cuts and bruises, and they haul in their large pile of annoying, sloppy kids for any and all shots and treatments. All for free, except the rest of us pay for these slobs.

    Got aproblem with the "outrageous discrepancy"? Complain to the democrats.

  17. #117
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Who's responsible for outrageous discrepancy?
    Health Insurance companies, who have inserted themselves between health providers and customers. Aren't they wonderful ?
    OK. Forgive my ignorance. Are you saying they're getting repaid for their participation?
    By being middlemen, the insurance companies take a nice cut. Health services would be cheaper (in the long run) without these middlemen.

  18. #118
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Health Insurance companies, who have inserted themselves between health providers and customers. Aren't they wonderful ?
    OK. Forgive my ignorance. Are you saying they're getting repaid for their participation?
    Sling, everybody knows why emergency rooms charge outrageous amounts for services you can get at your Doctor's office. Your doctor only sees paying customers, while that emergency room treats everyone, and many of those are illegals who go there for common colds, pregnancy and delivery, cuts and bruises, and they haul in their large pile of annoying, sloppy kids for any and all shots and treatments. All for free, except the rest of us pay for these slobs.

    Got aproblem with the "outrageous discrepancy"? Complain to the democrats.
    Didn't realize-really. We both get checkups and have no drug, smoking, etc. habits. so we have been blessed with better than average health

  19. #119
    Trump had better stir something up soon- The View and Steven Colbert have all been reruns. Some Democrats may have to drop out without something to protest.

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