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  1. #61
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Your racist, fascist, nazi propaganda doesn't work here, lefty. The first thing, dumfuck, is Russia annexed Crimea during the Obama adminstration. What the fuck did Obama do about it? Nothing.

    Crimea was part of the Soviet Union until Ukraine broke off. The entire Russian Naval Fleet has been stationed there for decades. 85% of the people of Crimea are Russian and speak Russian. The Russians didn't invade. They were already there. The citizens of Crimea support Russia, not Ukraine. What the fuck is Trump supposed to do about that? Tell the Crimeans they are Ukrainians, not Russians? Stick your propaganda BS up your ass.
    Mickey makes some very valid and true statements, just has trouble with the delivery part....you’ll have to excuse him on that tho, he is first cousins with the Geico caveman
    When you suck down so much porpaganda, I think you're naturally on the defensive on some level. So to make up for that, you have to put ridiculous insults in every sentence. It is a defense mechanism.

    He pretty thoroughly avoids direct questions or addressing what people say and just goes through this list of talking points he has. Not a sign on someone on the side of truth.

    It is funny, every Trump supporter I used to associate with was also a Russian apologist. They loved ZeroHedge and RT because it was "alternative". It is also full of Russian propaganda.

    Mickey's post is all sort of self-fulfilling gobbley-gook. Trump made America Great again - therefore Russian wouldn't support him. OOOK.

    Ukraine was invaded as was Crimea. While they may speak Russian, it doesn't mean they weren't invaded. The voting around the situation was questionable too. But yes, Crimea wasn't that upset being annexed by Russia.

    Making NATO pay up made them stronger against Russia? He didn't make them do anything. THat was already going on after Russia invade Ukraine. Yes, he tweeded and shit and it likely pushed them along.

    He expelled 60 diplomats! Tough move there! No way Hillary would have done that! <eyeroll>

    The facts are just about everyone else has accepted that Russia meddled with the election. Educated Republicans and Democrats. Trump wants to deny it for obvious reasons. His fan boys eat up everything he says. You can come up with a list of things that Trump did that are not in the interest of Russia, but that doesn't mean they didn't want him. Look at the direct evidence of what happened, or live in denial.
    Your ideology has left you delusional. The Clinton campaign spent 770 millions dollars on the 2016 election. The Trump campaign spent just 550 million. But you think the measly 7 million the Russians spent on the troll farms won the election for Trump.

    Newsflash: The Russian troll farms cranked out anti-Hillary and anti-Trump propaganda. But you libtards lie like hell saying the troll farms were all pro-Trump. Thats bullshit. The Russian goal was/is to sew discord in American politics. They thought Hillary would be the next president just like everyone else. The object was to weaken her Presidency.

    PS: The dossier, asshole. That was all anti-Trump and all produced by the Russians and Hillary planned to drop it very close to the election so Trump wouldn't have time enough to mount a defense. That dossier would have ruined Trump if it were dropped within a few weeks of the election with not enough time to debunk it. But Buzz Feed got a hold of it and published it long before the election foiling Hillary's plan.

    brainsinquestion, I know you know all this stuff. But your precious socialist ideology precludes you from admitting the truth. You aren't going to do anything that might help the opposition so the truth is a casualty with you.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  2. #62
    We have it from the lefties now that Russian troll farms in social media was enough influence to swing the election to Trump....and we also have it from lefties that Google, Facebook and Twitter manipulating their content does not sway voters.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  3. #63
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post

    Remember Trump also had ties to Epstein. We know he has cheated on his wives even when they were pregnant. He thinks nothing of grabbing a women by the pussy. I think Trump has much more to lose than Clinton if Jeffrey was ever to start to sing.
    Hillary was cleared of any wrongdoing by Comey- just like Trump was cleared by Comey. So it's all BS. Believe who you want- a man with 10,000+ lies or false statements or socialist Trump haters who try to outdo each other.
    Comey was ordered by Loretta Lynch to clear Hillary. And Lynch got her orders not to prosecute from Obama. Have you ever heard of the FBI Director clearing someone of a crime? That's not his/her job. Loretta Lynch was the top dog prosecutor. She's the one that should have made that speech on whether to charge Hillary or not, not Comey.
    Liberals aren't interested in the facts mickey. They want things to be their way OR ELSE, and they then come up with the "10,000 lies" BS just to try and make themselves feel better. And this is the best reason why I enjoy watching CNN and MSNBC so much on election days where Trump is running. Seeing them display the absolute shock, dismay, and denial all at the same time reminds me that this is also how the libtard forum posters are suffering too.

    Oh the coming joy.....

  4. #64
    The only person I see that could defeat Trump is Michelle Obama.

  5. #65
    The country suffered enough with her husband for 8 years sling, and it's taken a genius like Trump to start to get us out of that nightmare. She couldn't do the job anyway. Her husband lied a dozen times a day with a straight face.

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    The only difference is the type of brain that makes somewhat lean to the left, tends to not make them as susceptible to silly conspiracies.
    LOL What??

    You mean stuff like.....

    - Kavanaugh "raped" some dumb bimbo who doesn't remember jack shit 30+ years ago? Mhmmm. #BelieveAllWomen #SomethingSomethingRapeCulture #AccusationsEqualGuilt
    - Jesse Smollet (this really shouldn't need any explanation), but the whole thing was completely retarded from the get go. Yeah, it's like -10 degrees outside and everyone's bundled up to the hilt and somehow anyone, let alone white people, are going to recognize this guy that no white person has ever heard of?
    - I forget the kid's name, but remember when that fake vietnam veteran indian was being a dick to a bunch of kids on a field trip (in DC I think)?
    - Or when Michael Brown attacked a police officer and ended up getting shot and the left went absolute berserk because they think black people = perfect.
    - Let's not forget the glorious presidential election of 2016 where they were absolutely confident HRC was gonna win. There were some predictions nearing 99% for HRC. And of course, they lost (go figure, people don't want HRC as commander in chief, big surprise!). Then you had people rioting in the streets crying (literally -- people were crying), shouting "not MY president!" and other dumb shit.

    I don't know how that woman was not at least credible to some degree. You guys act like that sort of shit doesn't happen? I don't knowi t if it did or didn't, but that is like a basic thing that happens all over the place throughout life. That woman had a PhD and wasn't some bimbo. She had little to gain making up some lie like that. She knew she'd be attacked and she was.

    Pizzagate.. So much of this nonsense I don't pay attention to it or remember most of it, and I'm actually a fan of conspiracies. I just don't have the biases to make me want to believe stupid shit.
    Ms Ford was credible “to some degree”, until she gave her testimony. She didn’t know where the alleged incident happened, she didn’t know what year it happened and her “witnesses” denied her account. According to democrat politicians that was enough to disqualify Kavanaugh.
    Funny how no one in politics or the media talk about Balsey-Ford not getting justice. She was used, the ploy didn’t work, Kavanaugh got confirmed. End of story.

    It looks like your bias definitely has you believing this stupid shit.

  7. #67
    She was absolutely never credible Regarding any of this and it's an absolute big ass f****** lie.

  8. #68
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    She was absolutely never credible Regarding any of this and it's an absolute big ass f****** lie.
    The biggest tell is that no one on the left or in the media talk about her anymore.

  9. #69
    Of course stocks did better under Obama than Trump and here is the proof.
    https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019...ent/index.html

  10. #70
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Of course stocks did better under Obama than Trump and here is the proof.
    https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019...ent/index.html
    The market was bottomed out from the 2008 meltdown when Obama took over. It had nowhere to go but up....especially with zero percent interest rate. How many jobs left the country under Obama? And he said they were never coming back too. People having to work two part time jobs. Record number of people on food stamps. High taxes. And you're comparing 8 years to 2 years.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #71
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    The market was bottomed out from the 2008 meltdown when Obama took over. It had nowhere to go but up....especially with zero percent interest rate. How many jobs left the country under Obama? And he said they were never coming back too. People having to work two part time jobs. Record number of people on food stamps. High taxes. And you're comparing 8 years to 2 years.
    No, I'm not comparing 8 years to 2 years. Read the article again. It compares the first 645 days of each presidency. If you want to compare 8 years to 2 years it would be 182% for Obama to 29% for Trump.

    I will agree with you on one point, and that is the market was bottoming when Obama came into office, but don't say the market has done better under Trump than Obama because it is not true.

  12. #72
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    The market was bottomed out from the 2008 meltdown when Obama took over. It had nowhere to go but up....especially with zero percent interest rate. How many jobs left the country under Obama? And he said they were never coming back too. People having to work two part time jobs. Record number of people on food stamps. High taxes. And you're comparing 8 years to 2 years.
    No, I'm not comparing 8 years to 2 years. Read the article again. It compares the first 645 days of each presidency. If you want to compare 8 years to 2 years it would be 182% for Obama to 29% for Trump.

    I will agree with you on one point, and that is the market was bottoming when Obama came into office, but don't say the market has done better under Trump than Obama because it is not true.
    "There are 3 kinds of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics." Mark Twain

    The market had bottomed at 8000 when Obama took over. By August 2011 the market was at 11,000. That's not 183%. More like 37%. It was helped along by zero percent prime rate. But that rise did nothing for job creation. Unemployment was at 9% in 2009 and 8.5% in 2011. And the 8.5% figure is somewhat phony because so many people had quit actively looking for work. The Trump stock market rise put a lot of people back to work and those already working saw pay increases.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #73
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    The market was bottomed out from the 2008 meltdown when Obama took over. It had nowhere to go but up....especially with zero percent interest rate. How many jobs left the country under Obama? And he said they were never coming back too. People having to work two part time jobs. Record number of people on food stamps. High taxes. And you're comparing 8 years to 2 years.
    No, I'm not comparing 8 years to 2 years. Read the article again. It compares the first 645 days of each presidency. If you want to compare 8 years to 2 years it would be 182% for Obama to 29% for Trump.

    I will agree with you on one point, and that is the market was bottoming when Obama came into office, but don't say the market has done better under Trump than Obama because it is not true.
    "There are 3 kinds of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics." Mark Twain

    The market had bottomed at 8000 when Obama took over. By August 2011 the market was at 11,000. That's not 183%. More like 37%. It was helped along by zero percent prime rate. But that rise did nothing for job creation. Unemployment was at 9% in 2009 and 8.5% in 2011. And the 8.5% figure is somewhat phony because so many people had quit actively looking for work. The Trump stock market rise put a lot of people back to work and those already working saw pay increases.
    And then there is the 4th type of lie. That told by either Mickey Crimm, Rob Singer, or Donald J. Trump. Basis for their facts is either Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, or some other misinformed like minded individual. The purpose of their lies is to intimidate or influence weak minded or uneducated people that are not able to look at both sides and decide for themselves.

  14. #74

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    That's funny sling. CNN's been lying about Trump since he announced his candidacy.

  16. #76
    Originally Posted by seemoreroyals View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post

    No, I'm not comparing 8 years to 2 years. Read the article again. It compares the first 645 days of each presidency. If you want to compare 8 years to 2 years it would be 182% for Obama to 29% for Trump.

    I will agree with you on one point, and that is the market was bottoming when Obama came into office, but don't say the market has done better under Trump than Obama because it is not true.
    "There are 3 kinds of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics." Mark Twain

    The market had bottomed at 8000 when Obama took over. By August 2011 the market was at 11,000. That's not 183%. More like 37%. It was helped along by zero percent prime rate. But that rise did nothing for job creation. Unemployment was at 9% in 2009 and 8.5% in 2011. And the 8.5% figure is somewhat phony because so many people had quit actively looking for work. The Trump stock market rise put a lot of people back to work and those already working saw pay increases.
    And then there is the 4th type of lie. That told by either Mickey Crimm, Rob Singer, or Donald J. Trump. Basis for their facts is either Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, or some other misinformed like minded individual. The purpose of their lies is to intimidate or influence weak minded or uneducated people that are not able to look at both sides and decide for themselves.
    All the liberal lying and posturing doesn't change the one fact that guarantees Trump being elected for a 2nd term: the economy.

    Now YOU may not have a retirement account, but both my wife and I do. And I'll tell you one sure thing that confused and angry peoplelike you do not want to understand: we don't work, we spend A LOT of money, and we still have almost as much value in both our accounts as we had the day Trump was elected.

    We are certainly not alone. Plus those who work and contribute likely have far more money now than they did then, and wages are up/taxes are down. So all the lies in the world by libtards and never-Trumpers like our misguided sling, will ever affect the votes of the general public. You might be able to get some foreigners, minorities, queers, etc. to vote for one of those nutjob democratic candidates because many of them would rather have handouts, but it'll mean little overall.

    Eli's coming....again.

  17. #77
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by seemoreroyals View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    "There are 3 kinds of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics." Mark Twain

    The market had bottomed at 8000 when Obama took over. By August 2011 the market was at 11,000. That's not 183%. More like 37%. It was helped along by zero percent prime rate. But that rise did nothing for job creation. Unemployment was at 9% in 2009 and 8.5% in 2011. And the 8.5% figure is somewhat phony because so many people had quit actively looking for work. The Trump stock market rise put a lot of people back to work and those already working saw pay increases.
    And then there is the 4th type of lie. That told by either Mickey Crimm, Rob Singer, or Donald J. Trump. Basis for their facts is either Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, or some other misinformed like minded individual. The purpose of their lies is to intimidate or influence weak minded or uneducated people that are not able to look at both sides and decide for themselves.
    All the liberal lying and posturing doesn't change the one fact that guarantees Trump being elected for a 2nd term: the economy.

    Now YOU may not have a retirement account, but both my wife and I do. And I'll tell you one sure thing that confused and angry peoplelike you do not want to understand: we don't work, we spend A LOT of money, and we still have almost as much value in both our accounts as we had the day Trump was elected.

    We are certainly not alone. Plus those who work and contribute likely have far more money now than they did then, and wages are up/taxes are down. So all the lies in the world by libtards and never-Trumpers like our misguided sling, will ever affect the votes of the general public. You might be able to get some foreigners, minorities, queers, etc. to vote for one of those nutjob democratic candidates because many of them would rather have handouts, but it'll mean little overall.

    Eli's coming....again.

    Sounds as if somebody's itching to bet the 2020 presidential election. Well, I just saw a -125 on Trump at youwager. I'd be willing to take a whack at +140 coming back the other way on the Democratic nominee (whoever it is) winning the thing.

    So, I'm not sure what "guaranteeing" a win means, oddswise, but that what the poster above said about the economy. It sure seems like a +140 would fall well within that opinion's comfort range. I'm sure Todd would hold the money. That's what he does.

  18. #78
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by seemoreroyals View Post

    And then there is the 4th type of lie. That told by either Mickey Crimm, Rob Singer, or Donald J. Trump. Basis for their facts is either Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, or some other misinformed like minded individual. The purpose of their lies is to intimidate or influence weak minded or uneducated people that are not able to look at both sides and decide for themselves.
    All the liberal lying and posturing doesn't change the one fact that guarantees Trump being elected for a 2nd term: the economy.

    Now YOU may not have a retirement account, but both my wife and I do. And I'll tell you one sure thing that confused and angry peoplelike you do not want to understand: we don't work, we spend A LOT of money, and we still have almost as much value in both our accounts as we had the day Trump was elected.

    We are certainly not alone. Plus those who work and contribute likely have far more money now than they did then, and wages are up/taxes are down. So all the lies in the world by libtards and never-Trumpers like our misguided sling, will ever affect the votes of the general public. You might be able to get some foreigners, minorities, queers, etc. to vote for one of those nutjob democratic candidates because many of them would rather have handouts, but it'll mean little overall.

    Eli's coming....again.

    Sounds as if somebody's itching to bet the 2020 presidential election. Well, I just saw a -125 on Trump at youwager. I'd be willing to take a whack at +140 coming back the other way on the Democratic nominee (whoever it is) winning the thing.

    So, I'm not sure what "guaranteeing" a win means, oddswise, but that what the poster above said about the economy. It sure seems like a +140 would fall well within that opinion's comfort range. I'm sure Todd would hold the money. That's what he does.
    I wouldn't bet on this election. Unless a viable candidate appears, I'll do like last year and vote for the lesser of two evils. My middle son thought I wasn't voting for my beliefs. I asked him if I should then vote for Hillary instead. He never answered.

  19. #79
    Rob, one of the biggest lies of all is giving Trump credit for economic recovery. The two best presidents in my lifetime for the economy were Clinton and Obama. Clinton worked with both d's and r's and produced a surplus during his time as president. After King George the second lied to us about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, led by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, we spent so much money on a war in the middle east that we are still spending on it even today. Nobody other than the 30 percent that staunchly support the republican party wanted this war and we ran up such a debt that it just about wrecked the economy.

    When Obama came along he was faced with an economy where several big banks had failed and several more were on the verge of collapse which would have resulted in the collapse of our American way of life. I remember getting some incredible buys in both stocks and bonds and CD's during this time. So Rob, I have owned and continue to own stocks and bonds most likely more than you do. Anyway, Obama was put in a situation that he had to employ deficit spending to get our country out of the mess it was in. Under Obama's leadership, our economy improved greatly, unemployment rates decreased, and by the time Obama left office the economic meltdown was behind us.

    So giving Donald J Trump credit for the economy is not even close to being true. All he has done has been moving the redistribution of wealth away from those that actually need it to the top half of one percent that don't need it. The same line of BS the republicans used before AKA trickle down economics. We were misled by DJT and his economic team into believing that by giving the wealthy tax cuts that the end result would be more revenues to pay back excess spending. Unfortunately, in the 2 and a half years since DJT took over our deficits have now reached record levels. We are now at a point that another economic recession is almost a certainty.
    Last edited by seemoreroyals; 08-14-2019 at 12:17 PM.

  20. #80
    Saw a great sticker on a car today. It read, I lived though Obama you'll live through Trump.
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

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