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  1. #21
    Is this king guy really stupid enough to give security lip, or does he make up stories like this regularly?

    I guess my question would then be, why would somebody who finds himself in that type of situation not just calmly react to whatever he's being told to do by the casino, then figure it all out with a clear mind afterwards? If he acted the way he claims to have, he's the type of fool who asks for and deserves everything he gets.

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Is this king guy really stupid enough to give security lip, or does he make up stories like this regularly?

    I guess my question would then be, why would somebody who finds himself in that type of situation not just calmly react to whatever he's being told to do by the casino, then figure it all out with a clear mind afterwards? If he acted the way he claims to have, he's the type of fool who asks for and deserves everything he gets.
    It’s 100% true, he is all the fool you stayed he is and more. Lots of similar posts of his to read but basically the poster child for a stupid “educated. Millennial.

    Sad thing is others have tried to help him but he is too stubborn to accept it.

    He makes it so easy to root against him. You have much better things to do but if you ever read his stuff at WoV you would be shocked. And for some reason like Nathan, Wiz has a soft spot for him.

    I may be tough on people but sorry, when you threaten to shoot up casino staff, you deserve to be in jail, raped and worse.

  3. #23
    ZK is stupidly putting an end to his own career. As much shit as he flips them he's bound to be all over OSN and Griffin by now.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Can somebody give me Cliff Notes on what then King said in his post, I really can't read all that.
    Ever read a ZK post? Of course you have.

    Same as always, just insert Cosmo this time.

    Usual threats toward casinos, his superior knowledge of the law and notes on why he’s the best.

    Rinse and repeat.
    Oh really, i made a threat again? Go ahead and copy/paste it so the world can see where I made a threat in this thread.

    Don't look now but your bias hate towards me is showing again but keep it coming. Must suck to know you and Zcore and all the idiots at WOV who doubted me had to eat your words about me so you have to keep the hate ongoing. Not many people could've came alone to vegas, built a bankroll from scratch back home without any cash handouts and successfully counted cards in the sweatiest city in the country. Not mention dropping 12k upon arrival in the first two months after moving out for the first time in my life especially after all the doubters saying I would fail and how many have failed before me. I wouldn't be surprised if im the all-time leader in card counting winnings. Im also convinced i've been ratted out by several people, but keep it coming the whole world can be against me and im not going anywhere.

    P.S Keep calling me the stereotypical millennial because i don't fit any of those stereotypes.

    P.S. Ask Zcore how his alarm clock is doing.
    Last edited by ZenKinG; 08-09-2019 at 01:50 AM.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Is this king guy really stupid enough to give security lip, or does he make up stories like this regularly?

    I guess my question would then be, why would somebody who finds himself in that type of situation not just calmly react to whatever he's being told to do by the casino, then figure it all out with a clear mind afterwards? If he acted the way he claims to have, he's the type of fool who asks for and deserves everything he gets.
    giving security lip service might actually be + Ev for him if he can collect on a lawsuit Payday.
    Aside from comments like, I'm the best card counter in the world blah blah blah, and perhaps some of his rhetoric, for the most part, everything he's ever said has turned out to be true.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by ZenKinG View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Can somebody give me Cliff Notes on what then King said in his post, I really can't read all that.
    Ever read a ZK post? Of course you have.

    Same as always, just insert Cosmo this time.

    Usual threats toward casinos, his superior knowledge of the law and notes on why he’s the best.

    Rinse and repeat.
    Oh really, i made a threat again? Go ahead and copy/paste it so the world can see where I made a threat in this thread.

    Don't look now but your bias hate towards me is showing again but keep it coming. Must suck to know you and Zcore and all the idiots at WOV who doubted me had to eat your words about me so you have to keep the hate ongoing. Not many people could've came alone to vegas, built a bankroll from scratch back home without any cash handouts and successfully counted cards in the sweatiest city in the country. Not mention dropping 12k upon arrival in the first two months after moving out for the first time in my life especially after all the doubters saying I would fail and how many have failed before me. I wouldn't be surprised if im the all-time leader in card counting winnings. Im also convinced i've been ratted out by several people, but keep it coming the whole world can be against me and im not going anywhere.

    P.S Keep calling me the stereotypical millennial because i don't fit any of those stereotypes.

    P.S. Ask Zcore how his alarm clock is doing.
    The fact you didn't make a threat again and that is all you are concerned about shows anyone who doesn't know you just about everything they need to know about you. Should I link to where you DID threaten to shoot up casinos and their employees? If anyone reported you it is because of that, it isn't something you joke about, PERIOD. And again if anyone reported you it's because you doxed yourself crying like a little bitch about the Video Game tournament you lost. I honestly don't remember why you lost but I know you had some excuse.

    That is my entire problem with you ZK, you bitch and complain about everything like you are a victim and the only person that shit happens to. It's called life. Remember when you went on a long crying like a bitch rant about a flat tire? Oh the horror.

    Believe it or not I respect you for doing what you want under your terms in life. And telling everyone who ever tried to help you to get lost. You moved to Vegas with your own money and have been there for 2 years or more now, with a roof over your head, even if it leaks. That said, I'm sure you are still in the same $40-$60K range and have only existed for 2 years just like the guy who cleans the floors at an Adult Theater. You are nothing special and miss so many opportunities, but you are doing it your way and there is something to be sad for being happy. I was WRONG about you being under an underpass. Happy?

    But I have to come back to little bitch part. You blame everyone but yourself for everything. It has been KJ's fault because, the mob, Chinese Decks of Cards, the weather, Trump, casino workers, casinos, and even the Grasshoppers. Everyone but yourself.

    How about all the lawsuits you have threatened? Where are you on them. Like most of your blowing off steam, you are full of shit. Cosmo isn't worried about you, nor are all the other casinos you have threatened to sue. MGM, Downtown Grand, Caesars, all still there. Not out of business like you said , unless of course you do own them like you said you would.

    So back to threatening to shoot up casinos. I for one never reported you or turned you in, nor do I know if others did. But if you ever do follow through on your threats and hurt anyone other than yourself, it will be probably be the biggest regret in my life for not doing something. I am taking the word of others who say you are just blowing off steam. I truly hope so because if you are not, I won't be the only one with regrets.

    By the way, how is the research on this years "LOCK of the CENTURY" coming? Let me guess, Bulls again?

    Stay Classy ZK.

  7. #27
    LMAO @ ZenKing.

    "No handouts" says the guy who lived at home until he was like 29.

    "Build a BR from scratch", playing the crappiest games on the planet. Moved to Vegas and succeeded. I have done all that too. And I have done it without all the "everybody is out to get me" paranoia crap.

    Sure...a little venting when variance kicks your ass. That is one of the benefits of these forums. You can share what you are going through with others that understand.

    But YOU, ZenKing....you are a peice of work with your level of paranoia, arrogance and entitlement.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 08-09-2019 at 09:58 AM.

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    LMAO @ ZenKing.

    "No handouts" says the guy who lived at home until he was like 29.

    "Build a BR from scratch", playing the crappiest games on the planet. Moved to Vegas and succeeded. I have done all that too. And I have done it without all the "everybody is out to get me" paranoia crap.

    Sure...a little venting when variance kicks your ass. That is one of the benefits of these forums. You can share what you are going through with others that understand.

    But YOU, ZenKing....you are a peice of work with your level of paranoia, arrogance and entitlement.
    I know right, he should have just got himself a sugar daddy/sugar Mama.

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    LMAO @ ZenKing.

    "No handouts" says the guy who lived at home until he was like 29.

    "Build a BR from scratch", playing the crappiest games on the planet. Moved to Vegas and succeeded. I have done all that too. And I have done it without all the "everybody is out to get me" paranoia crap.

    Sure...a little venting when variance kicks your ass. That is one of the benefits of these forums. You can share what you are going through with others that understand.

    But YOU, ZenKing....you are a peice of work with your level of paranoia, arrogance and entitlement.
    I know right, he should have just got himself a sugar daddy/sugar Mama.
    Exactly!! Just like YOU did.

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    LMAO @ ZenKing.

    "No handouts" says the guy who lived at home until he was like 29.

    "Build a BR from scratch", playing the crappiest games on the planet. Moved to Vegas and succeeded. I have done all that too. And I have done it without all the "everybody is out to get me" paranoia crap.

    Sure...a little venting when variance kicks your ass. That is one of the benefits of these forums. You can share what you are going through with others that understand.

    But YOU, ZenKing....you are a peice of work with your level of paranoia, arrogance and entitlement.
    I know right, he should have just got himself a sugar daddy/sugar Mama.

    Exactly!! Just like YOU did.
    Oh come on now, quit projecting.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I know right, he should have just got himself a sugar daddy/sugar Mama.

    Exactly!! Just like YOU did.
    Oh come on now, quit projecting.
    Well, if you are talking about me and my late partner, he was broke the day I met him. Even when I was starting out and didn't have much money....he was....."broker".

    And his passing actually cost me quite a bit of money. At that point our money was combined, so it isn't like he had his own money. I tried as best I could to figure out just how much I benefited financially, or to put it another way, how much he contributed to our partnership and the money I earned. It wasn't easy to come up with a dollar amount, but I tried to be as fair as I could and then took that amount, which was pretty significant and divided it amongst his 3 grown sons. He would have had a fit if he was alive to see that, but it is something I needed to do.

  12. #32
    So getting back to Zenking, there is something that I have always found a little disturbing. I think it was way back on Norm's blackjack forum, before, he began posting at WoV and before he had plans to move to Vegas. He talked about suing a casino and receiving a big payday. He mentioned a couple different plans. one was enticing casino security to rough him up so he could file That kind of lawsuit, of which there were a number of going on at that time. He also mentioned the old standard "slip and fall" where he would claim to have gotten hurt and then sue the casino.

    Needless to say, I wasn't impressed at the time. I mean the world greatest card counter ought to be able to make money counting cards, not need some phony lawsuit.

    So when I read the account of things at Cosmo, it came back to me, was he trying to entice security into some sort of action in which he could then sue? Because again, his actions certainly weren't that of a card counter, planning on any kind of longevity.

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So getting back to Zenking, there is something that I have always found a little disturbing. I think it was way back on Norm's blackjack forum, before, he began posting at WoV and before he had plans to move to Vegas. He talked about suing a casino and receiving a big payday. He mentioned a couple different plans. one was enticing casino security to rough him up so he could file That kind of lawsuit, of which there were a number of going on at that time. He also mentioned the old standard "slip and fall" where he would claim to have gotten hurt and then sue the casino.

    Needless to say, I wasn't impressed at the time. I mean the world greatest card counter ought to be able to make money counting cards, not need some phony lawsuit.

    So when I read the account of things at Cosmo, it came back to me, was he trying to entice security into some sort of action in which he could then sue? Because again, his actions certainly weren't that of a card counter, planning on any kind of longevity.
    Well no offense, but doh. It is a freeroll of sorts. He can insult them and if he manages to provoke some low paid employee to assault him, he makes some money. Probably somewhat signficant, but who knows. That is what is in the back of his mind. 100%. It is definitely an option to him. The question is though is how is his weighing this potential vs his longetivity as a card counter. Probably not productive overall.

    What is fascinating is how all you APs have all these side-feuds and so forth with each other. Good stuff. I'm just going to go to the last DA machine and see if I can give it a whack. I've never counted in my life. Still need to get some practice in on basic strategy.

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    What is fascinating is how all you APs have all these side-feuds and so forth with each other. Good stuff. I'm just going to go to the last DA machine and see if I can give it a whack. I've never counted in my life. Still need to get some practice in on basic strategy.
    Side feud? I have no side feud with Zenking. I think I have been in his corner far more than can be expected.

    When he signed up at WoV and began posting, I publicly stated that it wasn't right how the membership was openly rooting against him and "baiting him" into suspensions.

    When he moved to Vegas and was having difficultly bouncing around with living arrangements, I seriously considered inviting him to stay at my house as I had an extra bedroom at the time. I decided to give him a little time to see what he could do on his own first, and then within a few months, I had my heart surgery, so the timing just didn't work out.

    After he moved to Vegas and was struggling with early negative variance, I contacted Axelwolf (and Axel should be able to verify this) and asked him to meet with Zenking and see if there was anything he could do as far as helping him get into some non-card counting AP stuff. I thought it would be good for Zenking to diversify a bit. To his credit, Axelwolf and a couple other WoV members had either already met with Zenking or had a meet up planned (I forget which). And it is my understanding that Zenking showed no interest in any other AP stuff. His sole interest was card counting, which I of all people can appreciate.

    After Zenking began posting about his early negative variance in Las Vegas, I contacted him privately (I think through another site) and damn near shared my own rotation of stores with him, telling him what places to avoid (most of the strip)

    And through it all he continued to bad mouth me, directly or indirectly blaming me for his early lack of success. I mean I don't know what more I was supposed to do. Keep in mind, I am a card counter, playing a home rotation of Las Vegas, so there is or should be some protecting my turf. I think I went far and above the call of duty. But Like Boz said, Zenking never appreciated anything and with his rants and attitude and accusations, makes it hard for anyone to not root against him.

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Zenking, TBF, they make you take off your glasses to make sure you aren't self excluded/Tresspassed.
    Gawd you are a fucking idiot and moron. That is not why they have you take off glasses at all. Jesus fing christ I dont think I could try to be as dumb as you.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    What is fascinating is how all you APs have all these side-feuds and so forth with each other. Good stuff. I'm just going to go to the last DA machine and see if I can give it a whack. I've never counted in my life. Still need to get some practice in on basic strategy.
    Side feud? I have no side feud with Zenking. I think I have been in his corner far more than can be expected.

    When he signed up at WoV and began posting, I publicly stated that it wasn't right how the membership was openly rooting against him and "baiting him" into suspensions.

    When he moved to Vegas and was having difficultly bouncing around with living arrangements, I seriously considered inviting him to stay at my house as I had an extra bedroom at the time. I decided to give him a little time to see what he could do on his own first, and then within a few months, I had my heart surgery, so the timing just didn't work out.

    After he moved to Vegas and was struggling with early negative variance, I contacted Axelwolf (and Axel should be able to verify this) and asked him to meet with Zenking and see if there was anything he could do as far as helping him get into some non-card counting AP stuff. I thought it would be good for Zenking to diversify a bit. To his credit, Axelwolf and a couple other WoV members had either already met with Zenking or had a meet up planned (I forget which). And it is my understanding that Zenking showed no interest in any other AP stuff. His sole interest was card counting, which I of all people can appreciate.

    After Zenking began posting about his early negative variance in Las Vegas, I contacted him privately (I think through another site) and damn near shared my own rotation of stores with him, telling him what places to avoid (most of the strip)

    And through it all he continued to bad mouth me, directly or indirectly blaming me for his early lack of success. I mean I don't know what more I was supposed to do. Keep in mind, I am a card counter, playing a home rotation of Las Vegas, so there is or should be some protecting my turf. I think I went far and above the call of duty. But Like Boz said, Zenking never appreciated anything and with his rants and attitude and accusations, makes it hard for anyone to not root against him.
    Is this stuff for real kew? You were actually gonna invite a complete unknown--a self-proclaimed gambler no less, with no job or money--to live in your home? I'd be thankful for that heart problem....

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    What is fascinating is how all you APs have all these side-feuds and so forth with each other. Good stuff. I'm just going to go to the last DA machine and see if I can give it a whack. I've never counted in my life. Still need to get some practice in on basic strategy.
    Side feud? I have no side feud with Zenking. I think I have been in his corner far more than can be expected.

    When he signed up at WoV and began posting, I publicly stated that it wasn't right how the membership was openly rooting against him and "baiting him" into suspensions.

    When he moved to Vegas and was having difficultly bouncing around with living arrangements, I seriously considered inviting him to stay at my house as I had an extra bedroom at the time. I decided to give him a little time to see what he could do on his own first, and then within a few months, I had my heart surgery, so the timing just didn't work out.

    After he moved to Vegas and was struggling with early negative variance, I contacted Axelwolf (and Axel should be able to verify this) and asked him to meet with Zenking and see if there was anything he could do as far as helping him get into some non-card counting AP stuff. I thought it would be good for Zenking to diversify a bit. To his credit, Axelwolf and a couple other WoV members had either already met with Zenking or had a meet up planned (I forget which). And it is my understanding that Zenking showed no interest in any other AP stuff. His sole interest was card counting, which I of all people can appreciate.

    After Zenking began posting about his early negative variance in Las Vegas, I contacted him privately (I think through another site) and damn near shared my own rotation of stores with him, telling him what places to avoid (most of the strip)

    And through it all he continued to bad mouth me, directly or indirectly blaming me for his early lack of success. I mean I don't know what more I was supposed to do. Keep in mind, I am a card counter, playing a home rotation of Las Vegas, so there is or should be some protecting my turf. I think I went far and above the call of duty. But Like Boz said, Zenking never appreciated anything and with his rants and attitude and accusations, makes it hard for anyone to not root against him.
    Is this stuff for real kew? You were actually gonna invite a complete unknown--a self-proclaimed gambler no less, with no job or money--to live in your home? I'd be thankful for that heart problem....
    If young chicks were into BJ/AP like young guys are, I would have been inviting them all(All the hot ones that is) to say with me and I would absolutely "help" them out.

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by GwoAE View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Zenking, TBF, they make you take off your glasses to make sure you aren't self excluded/Tresspassed.
    Gawd you are a fucking idiot and moron. That is not why they have you take off glasses at all. Jesus fing christ I dont think I could try to be as dumb as you.
    YOU come across as dumb. Of course they ask you to remove your glasses to make sure you aren't self excluded/Tresspassed. Countless of self excluded/Trespassed people have made it past Entrance Security onto the actual games.

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    What is fascinating is how all you APs have all these side-feuds and so forth with each other. Good stuff. I'm just going to go to the last DA machine and see if I can give it a whack. I've never counted in my life. Still need to get some practice in on basic strategy.
    Side feud? I have no side feud with Zenking. I think I have been in his corner far more than can be expected.

    When he signed up at WoV and began posting, I publicly stated that it wasn't right how the membership was openly rooting against him and "baiting him" into suspensions.

    When he moved to Vegas and was having difficultly bouncing around with living arrangements, I seriously considered inviting him to stay at my house as I had an extra bedroom at the time. I decided to give him a little time to see what he could do on his own first, and then within a few months, I had my heart surgery, so the timing just didn't work out.

    After he moved to Vegas and was struggling with early negative variance, I contacted Axelwolf (and Axel should be able to verify this) and asked him to meet with Zenking and see if there was anything he could do as far as helping him get into some non-card counting AP stuff. I thought it would be good for Zenking to diversify a bit. To his credit, Axelwolf and a couple other WoV members had either already met with Zenking or had a meet up planned (I forget which). And it is my understanding that Zenking showed no interest in any other AP stuff. His sole interest was card counting, which I of all people can appreciate.

    After Zenking began posting about his early negative variance in Las Vegas, I contacted him privately (I think through another site) and damn near shared my own rotation of stores with him, telling him what places to avoid (most of the strip)

    And through it all he continued to bad mouth me, directly or indirectly blaming me for his early lack of success. I mean I don't know what more I was supposed to do. Keep in mind, I am a card counter, playing a home rotation of Las Vegas, so there is or should be some protecting my turf. I think I went far and above the call of duty. But Like Boz said, Zenking never appreciated anything and with his rants and attitude and accusations, makes it hard for anyone to not root against him.
    Well side-feud comment wasn't really meant to be directed at you. I am not exactly new to this stuff, but I haven't been a regular on a APish forum since RTP went away. It is interesting how many hostilities there are between various people. A bit humorous, but nothing new. Anyway, thanks for the background story. I just find ZK's attitude amusing/refreshing even if misdirected and unproductive.

    People pick on Tasha, but IMO she should just be banned or at least ignored.

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    What is fascinating is how all you APs have all these side-feuds and so forth with each other. Good stuff. I'm just going to go to the last DA machine and see if I can give it a whack. I've never counted in my life. Still need to get some practice in on basic strategy.
    Side feud? I have no side feud with Zenking. I think I have been in his corner far more than can be expected.

    When he signed up at WoV and began posting, I publicly stated that it wasn't right how the membership was openly rooting against him and "baiting him" into suspensions.

    When he moved to Vegas and was having difficultly bouncing around with living arrangements, I seriously considered inviting him to stay at my house as I had an extra bedroom at the time. I decided to give him a little time to see what he could do on his own first, and then within a few months, I had my heart surgery, so the timing just didn't work out.

    After he moved to Vegas and was struggling with early negative variance, I contacted Axelwolf (and Axel should be able to verify this) and asked him to meet with Zenking and see if there was anything he could do as far as helping him get into some non-card counting AP stuff. I thought it would be good for Zenking to diversify a bit. To his credit, Axelwolf and a couple other WoV members had either already met with Zenking or had a meet up planned (I forget which). And it is my understanding that Zenking showed no interest in any other AP stuff. His sole interest was card counting, which I of all people can appreciate.

    After Zenking began posting about his early negative variance in Las Vegas, I contacted him privately (I think through another site) and damn near shared my own rotation of stores with him, telling him what places to avoid (most of the strip)

    And through it all he continued to bad mouth me, directly or indirectly blaming me for his early lack of success. I mean I don't know what more I was supposed to do. Keep in mind, I am a card counter, playing a home rotation of Las Vegas, so there is or should be some protecting my turf. I think I went far and above the call of duty. But Like Boz said, Zenking never appreciated anything and with his rants and attitude and accusations, makes it hard for anyone to not root against him.
    I guess you're right at least partially to warrant an apology from me. You did try to help somewhat, but I think you've exaggerated on the helping part and you also ignored many PM's on bjinfo I sent you whether purposely or accidentally. Nonetheless, I shouldn't have called you out several times without any proof even though some of the things you have said over the years have come across to me as absurd or unrealistic.

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