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  1. #61
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You know what RS_.....let's try this a different way. A hypothetical.

    You are a good longterm contributing member of WoV in good standing, as is Axelwolf and MaxPen.

    So suppose someone shows up, maybe someone that used to participate at WoV, but hasn't in years. AS an example let's say Alan Mendelson. So Alan starts attacking you or Axelwolf or MaxPen. Continuing a feud that was started here or on some other forum. And Alan demands from Mike that you, Axelwolf or MaxPen be banned. He bullies and manipulates and constantly harasses Mike privately until Mike bans you (or Axelwolf or MaxPen).

    Would any of you guys think THAT is reasonable?

    And then to top it all off....after achieving his goal of getting you banned, Alan disappeared again, proving that was his only agenda.

    Be honest RS_ (Axel and MaxPen too). How would you feel about that?
    if Max, RS or anybody I like on the forum went full retard before, during and after the fact I would just think, oh well, you f***** up you dumbass. It's just the Forum, life moves on and so should you. Quit being all drama queen about it.
    It doesn't matter, the tribe has spoken.

    Bring back Kewlj 6 votes (19.35%)
    Bring back Nathan 10 votes (32.25%)
    It looks like you have a total of 6 fans and Nathan has at least 10. I voted for you so now you're probably thinking actually only have five fans. No doubt somebody misclicked one so that probably brings it down to four. Add a couple of your sock puppets you probably voted with. And now you're down to two.

    Wow I just went and checked my p.m. here and it seems to me that somebody admitted to voting multiple times on your behalf with a bunch of sock puppet accounts. I'm not going to say who it was but that's just f****** crazy since I was thinking that was the situation. According to my calculation you're actually - votes
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 08-16-2019 at 07:42 PM.

  2. #62
    ok, I'll bite. What are you talking about Axel?

  3. #63
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    ok, I'll bite. What are you talking about Axel?
    you can play coy all you want.

  4. #64
    "Our lives are but specks of dust falling through the fingers of time." Socrates
    Updated Version: "Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives."

    Life is short my friends. Make the most of it!

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by unowme View Post
    "Our lives are but specks of dust falling through the fingers of time." Socrates
    Updated Version: "Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives."

    Life is short my friends. Make the most of it!
    Do you have a source for that quote? It doesn't seem Socratic to me. It's all over Google attributed to Socrates but nobody gives a citation.

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    Originally Posted by unowme View Post
    "Our lives are but specks of dust falling through the fingers of time." Socrates
    Updated Version: "Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives."

    Life is short my friends. Make the most of it!
    Do you have a source for that quote? It doesn't seem Socratic to me. It's all over Google attributed to Socrates but nobody gives a citation.
    I have only seen it attributed to Socrates on the internet. Whoever wrote it, it reminds me that everything we are is fleeting and so don't waste too much time on relatively meaningless stuff. Of course your mileage may vary.

  7. #67
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You know what RS_.....let's try this a different way. A hypothetical.

    You are a good longterm contributing member of WoV in good standing, as is Axelwolf and MaxPen.

    So suppose someone shows up, maybe someone that used to participate at WoV, but hasn't in years. AS an example let's say Alan Mendelson. So Alan starts attacking you or Axelwolf or MaxPen. Continuing a feud that was started here or on some other forum. And Alan demands from Mike that you, Axelwolf or MaxPen be banned. He bullies and manipulates and constantly harasses Mike privately until Mike bans you (or Axelwolf or MaxPen).

    Would any of you guys think THAT is reasonable?

    And then to top it all off....after achieving his goal of getting you banned, Alan disappeared again, proving that was his only agenda.

    Be honest RS_ (Axel and MaxPen too). How would you feel about that?
    if Max, RS or anybody I like on the forum went full retard before, during and after the fact I would just think, oh well, you f***** up you dumbass. It's just the Forum, life moves on and so should you. Quit being all drama queen about it.
    It doesn't matter, the tribe has spoken.

    Bring back Kewlj 6 votes (19.35%)
    Bring back Nathan 10 votes (32.25%)
    It looks like you have a total of 6 fans and Nathan has at least 10. I voted for you so now you're probably thinking actually only have five fans. No doubt somebody misclicked one so that probably brings it down to four. Add a couple of your sock puppets you probably voted with. And now you're down to two.

    Wow I just went and checked my p.m. here and it seems to me that somebody admitted to voting multiple times on your behalf with a bunch of sock puppet accounts. I'm not going to say who it was but that's just f****** crazy since I was thinking that was the situation. According to my calculation you're actually - votes
    Hey, I got that same PM. The more things change.......

  8. #68
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You know what RS_.....let's try this a different way. A hypothetical.

    You are a good longterm contributing member of WoV in good standing, as is Axelwolf and MaxPen.

    So suppose someone shows up, maybe someone that used to participate at WoV, but hasn't in years. AS an example let's say Alan Mendelson. So Alan starts attacking you or Axelwolf or MaxPen. Continuing a feud that was started here or on some other forum. And Alan demands from Mike that you, Axelwolf or MaxPen be banned. He bullies and manipulates and constantly harasses Mike privately until Mike bans you (or Axelwolf or MaxPen).

    Would any of you guys think THAT is reasonable?

    And then to top it all off....after achieving his goal of getting you banned, Alan disappeared again, proving that was his only agenda.

    Be honest RS_ (Axel and MaxPen too). How would you feel about that?
    if Max, RS or anybody I like on the forum went full retard before, during and after the fact I would just think, oh well, you f***** up you dumbass. It's just the Forum, life moves on and so should you. Quit being all drama queen about it.
    It doesn't matter, the tribe has spoken.

    Bring back Kewlj 6 votes (19.35%)
    Bring back Nathan 10 votes (32.25%)
    It looks like you have a total of 6 fans and Nathan has at least 10. I voted for you so now you're probably thinking actually only have five fans. No doubt somebody misclicked one so that probably brings it down to four. Add a couple of your sock puppets you probably voted with. And now you're down to two.

    Wow I just went and checked my p.m. here and it seems to me that somebody admitted to voting multiple times on your behalf with a bunch of sock puppet accounts. I'm not going to say who it was but that's just f****** crazy since I was thinking that was the situation. According to my calculation you're actually - votes
    Hey, I got that same PM. The more things change.......
    Ditto

  9. #69
    My perspective (a week later):

    I don't know or care about this WoV stuff. I don't even post there, as most of you know.

    This is a different type of forum with a much more laid back moderation style, as most of you also know.

    I don't know of kewlJ was right or wrong regarding his situation there. I do know that kewlJ can be very dramatic at times, and this thread is a good example of it. I have to agree with what Axel said. He should have just laid low after his ban, and not flipped out on Mike on other forums. That all but sealed the deal.

    Most forum owners aren't as easygoing as I am when it comes to tolerating people bashing them.
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  10. #70
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I don't know of kewlJ was right or wrong regarding his situation there. I do know that kewlJ can be very dramatic at times, and this thread is a good example of it. I have to agree with what Axel said. He should have just laid low after his ban, and not flipped out on Mike on other forums. That all but sealed the deal.

    Most forum owners aren't as easygoing as I am when it comes to tolerating people bashing them.
    Since you don't seem to know, but still want to be critical of me, let me recap a few things you are wrong about Dan Druff.

    I was banned at WoV in March 2016. For 3 months I said nothing publicly. I was communicating privately with Mr Shackleford, at times making progress of a return and then when we had reached an agreement, he told me he would have to run in by QFIT, who was the guy that came to his site seeking to ban me. He then came back and told me QFIT said no and discussions began to break down.

    At this point, as I criticized Mike, he told me there was a whole forum of people that criticized him daily at GamblingForums and I should go there. Let me say that again...Michael Shackleford is the one who suggested that I go to Gambling Forums to post my complaints. If there is anyone that needs proof of that, I have the PM.

    So I did join Gamblingforums, in June 2016, just as Mike suggested, and 3 months after my banning, with no progress being made, I posted in a thread where my ban at WoV had been the leading topic of discussion.

    So this was 3 months after. Exactly how long was I suppose to "lay low"?

    And one other thing. While I now know that Axelwolf, RS_ and MaxPen, were talking to Mike behind the scenes on my behalf. Nobody told me that at the time. I heard from no one.

    And let's be real about this. I waited 3 months. Wouldn't have mattered if I had waited 3 years. The fact is that Mike knew he was wrong from day 1. I know this because he privately told me. And then he went on to tell me how much Norm (QFIT) had pressured him and how Mike "owed this favor to QFIT, so he couldn't say no".

    So nothing was going to change. The fact is Mike knew he was wrong, but he wasn't going to be man enough to admit that publicly. The only conclusion I can come to is that he was and remains afraid of QFIT.

  11. #71
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Most forum owners aren't as easygoing as I am
    Being "easygoing" and allowing all the trolling that you do has worked out real well Dan Druff. You have a forum where 90% of discussion is either about WOV or a couple Trump enthusiasts doing THAT troll thing, or.....Tasha starting meaningless threads. NOTHING that has anything to do with talk of Vegas or casinos as the forum's title suggests. So it's no wonder we are down to about 7 posts a day and 5 are by Tasha. Great Job Mr. Easygoing.

  12. #72
    Kew, how dense can you be? No matter who posts about your childish reactions to whatever trouble YOU got YOURSELF into over at WoV--which inexplicably now, then, and forever appears to have both ruined and controls every aspect of your very weird life--everybody's always wrong and you're always "right". You're just not getting it. And given your insatiable propensity to HAVE to and NEED to get every reader to believe every little thing you say about yourself online, this only serves to confirm how full of bs all or most of your life-claims truly are. If people don't care about your claims and unimportant feelings, don't believe your fairy tales, or are sick and tired of your nonsensical drama outbursts and your going on and on and on and on about totally irrelevant stuff--TAKE THE HINT MCFLY.

    Wise up....and recommend you stop torturing yourself so shamelessly in front of those peers you absolutely NEED to respect and believe in you.
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 08-25-2019 at 07:36 AM.

  13. #73
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Kew, how dense can you be? No matter who posts about your childish reactions to whatever trouble YOU got YOURSELF into over at WoV--which inexplicably now, then, and forever appears to have both ruined and controls every aspect of your very weird life--everybody's always wrong and you're always "right". You're just not getting it. And given your insatiable propensity to HAVE to and NEED to get every reader to believe every little thing you say about yourself online, this only serves to confirm how full of bs all or most of your life-claims truly are. If people don't care about your claims and unimportant feelings, don't believe your fairy tales, or are sick and tired of your nonsensical drama outbursts and your going on and on and on and on about totally irrelevant stuff--TAKE THE HINT MCFLY.

    Wise up....and recommend you stop torturing yourself so shamelessly in front of those peers you absolutely NEED to respect and believe in you.
    Dan Druff said some things that showed he really didn't know the situation, so I corrected him in that I had laid low for 3 months. So just shut the fuck up Rob. No one was talking to you. No one is ever talking to you because no one cares what you say or think anymore. You have proven yourself to be the boy who cried wolf and no one gives a shit what you say. So just stop interjecting yourself in every little thing involving me, proving how obsessed you are with me.

  14. #74
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Shackleford is a maroon, as Bugs Bunny used to say.

    Those who can, gamble. Those who can't, run gambling forums. Or look for glitches.
    What is a maroon? or are you saying he is a brownish crimson color.

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by DRich View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Shackleford is a maroon, as Bugs Bunny used to say.

    Those who can, gamble. Those who can't, run gambling forums. Or look for glitches.
    What is a maroon? or are you saying he is a brownish crimson color.
    It never did make sense for Bugs Bunny to call a Fool a Maroon which is a brownish reddish color when he should have said Moron instead but I guess the Writers wanted Bugs to come across as cutesy and witty.

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