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    Damn, two times I went to bat for you and I ended up getting banned both times. This last time I got nuked. By the way, I am no socket puppet. I'm Midwest Player and have been posting on several forums under this name for over 10 years. So yes KJ, collect the money on that $250,000 bet.

    I really don't follow WOV but in the past around 8 to 10 years ago, I did make several posts there. Those posts you see there are mine. My name on WOV is MidwestPlayer. I just haven't been active there for a long time. If Mike, thought the post was inappropriate why didn't he just delete it.

    Anyway, I sure don't feel like I deserved to be nuked for just trying to put in a good word for KJ. After I read KJ's post on being banned for 1247 days I felt bad for him and was just trying to get Mike to reconsider the ban as others have done behind the scenes.

    Is there any way to contact Mike, and try to explain the situation? My intentions were not to stir up trouble as BoSox might think.
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 08-13-2019 at 02:10 PM.

  2. #2
    Why is it you people feel so insulted about being "nuked" by a bunch of foreigners intent on controlling everything you say on WoV? Just walk away already, and blaze new trails elsewhere or just live your lives without all those mostly anonymous wonders waiting to pounce.

  3. #3
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Why is it you people feel so insulted about being "nuked" by a bunch of foreigners intent on controlling everything you say on WoV? Just walk away already, and blaze new trails elsewhere or just live your lives without all those mostly anonymous wonders waiting to pounce.
    Wisdom Robbo, wisdom. Nobody ever lost a dollar from being banned over there other than the owners. Including you, Mick and KJ. I actually like KJ, but never understand his infatuation with it, even if he was right.

    Same as 1BB and others like him. Even Larry bitched about it until he walked away from forums.

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    I'm not really getting it. Wisdom dictates that reinstating those 3 personalities you mentioned at the very minimum would instantly inflate that place to enormous proportions. And that's what that forum is all about these days, right? Attracting as many readers as possible in order to lead as many of them as possible to their online casinos.

    The business model is there for them right in front of their faces. Who's fighting it?

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Why is it you people feel so insulted about being "nuked" by a bunch of foreigners intent on controlling everything you say on WoV? Just walk away already, and blaze new trails elsewhere or just live your lives without all those mostly anonymous wonders waiting to pounce.
    Wisdom Robbo, wisdom. Nobody ever lost a dollar from being banned over there other than the owners. Including you, Mick and KJ. I actually like KJ, but never understand his infatuation with it, even if he was right.

    Same as 1BB and others like him. Even Larry bitched about it until he walked away from forums.
    didn't kjiz book deal go bad after he got banned there?

    It certainly could affect an AP's, game developers, tout's or some other gambling related business income if they were to get banned from there.

    EDIT: LOL, I SOMEHOW TYPED KJIZ. I kinda like it

  6. #6
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Why is it you people feel so insulted about being "nuked" by a bunch of foreigners intent on controlling everything you say on WoV? Just walk away already, and blaze new trails elsewhere or just live your lives without all those mostly anonymous wonders waiting to pounce.
    Wisdom Robbo, wisdom. Nobody ever lost a dollar from being banned over there other than the owners. Including you, Mick and KJ. I actually like KJ, but never understand his infatuation with it, even if he was right.

    Same as 1BB and others like him. Even Larry bitched about it until he walked away from forums.
    didn't kjiz book deal go bad after he got banned there?

    It certainly could affect an AP's, game developers, tout's or some other gambling related business income if they were to get banned from there.

    EDIT: LOL, I SOMEHOW TYPED KJIZ. I kinda like it
    No clue of his book deal, but if he did have a book deal he was way ahead of Ozzy, who keeps threatening it.

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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    It certainly could affect an AP's, game developers, tout's or some other gambling related business income if they were to get banned from there.

    EDIT: LOL, I SOMEHOW TYPED KJIZ. I kinda like it
    First, I am not the least bit surprises you like KJ jizz, Axelwolf. I always suspected you are a deeply closeted....well whatever, with all your gay "humor". But that's another topic of discussion...and not one that can be discussed at WoV any longer.

    More seriously, I agree with Axel that these bannings effect a players reputation. In my case it did have an effect on my book deal. Some of that my doing.

    It also can have an effect on how other AP's view you and can influence if they want to do business with you. In my case I am not seeking to partner or do business with anyone, but you never know.

    There was a poster at WoV, claiming to be Bojack from the old BJinfo and Bojack from the old BJinfo was most likely Tommy Hyland. This Bojack reincarnated at WoV claims to have looked me up, with interest in me playing for his well known team, but decided against it because of my posting. Frankly I don't believe any of that story. I don't think the guy posting as bojack at WoV was the same bojack (likely Tommy Hyland but never confirmed) and I don't think anyone found me and viewed my play without me knowing. I am pretty aware of what is happening around me when I play. But it just goes to show that these things that happen on these forums, banning and feuds can effect what other players think of someone, which could translate into lost business opportunities. Translation: costs money! That is why I take it so seriously.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 08-13-2019 at 05:59 PM.

  8. #8
    On the flip side, getting banned, or being the most popular dude at WoV, would have a net effect somewhere near absolute zero for any sports handicapper. Serious sports gamblers aren't attending to WoV for much of anything.

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Anyway, I sure don't feel like I deserved to be nuked for just trying to put in a good word for KJ. After I read KJ's post on being banned for 1247 days I felt bad for him and was just trying to get Mike to reconsider the ban as others have done behind the scenes.

    Is there any way to contact Mike, and try to explain the situation? My intentions were not to stir up trouble as BoSox might think.
    You didn't deserve to be banned MWP. I believe WoV has a rule against talking about banned members (can anyone verify?) and if that is the case a suspension might have been in order. 3 days is the standard first offense, although a warning is more appropriate for a first time offender that likely didn't know.

    BUT, you mentioned my name. And that means Mike's blood pressure soars and he goes completely off the deep end.

    And isn't that a shame. I mean we are talking about grown men here in Norm and Mike. Norm is his 70's. Mike in his mid 50;s. Norm has been involved with dozens of feuds and holds grudges for years...so nothing new. But Mike Shackleford following in those footsteps. I really though more of Mike. He continues to disappoint me.

    I mean so this thing happened....the Norm manipulating Mike to get involved in a feud he shouldn't have. Mike banned me. I took it personally. VERY personally! said some nasty things. Mike isn't clean either. He said things to me in private that completely contradicted what he said publicly. I don't know how else to describe that other than dishonest. And I took that personally.

    So there is plenty of blame to go around. But I mean it is now 4 years later. Mike is an AP living in Vegas. I am an AP living in Vegas. I have reached out to Mike numerous times trying to open an avenue of communication and he immediately closes every one down. There comes a time you get over this shit and move on.

    I mean technically, I have been proven right in my initial feud with Norm, which spilled over to WoV. And Norm himself has proven me right that his only reason for coming to WoV was to use Mike. But none of that even matters. There comes a time, you move on. It is shocking to me that Mr. Shackleford is unable to do so, and flies off the handle and deep end when someone even mentioned my name. I think Mickeycrimm is right...that in itself tells you something.

  10. #10
    I just thought of your name kew, and I burst out laughing at how you want to believe anything on these forums have any effect on anyone's livelihood. To believe in something as stupid as that takes a very peculiar, exceptionally weak type of person in everyday life.

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I just thought of your name kew, and I burst out laughing at how you want to believe anything on these forums have any effect on anyone's livelihood. To believe in something as stupid as that takes a very peculiar, exceptionally weak type of person in everyday life.
    How can you believe that? Your behavior on these forums is why noone gives a fuck whether or not you played the VP glitch. You were unable to get on GWAE with what one could consider the biggest ever story in VP.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    On the flip side, getting banned, or being the most popular dude at WoV, would have a net effect somewhere near absolute zero for any sports handicapper. Serious sports gamblers aren't attending to WoV for much of anything.
    most of the guys who are good at betting Sports don't talk about it, they just do it and make money.

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I just thought of your name kew, and I burst out laughing at how you want to believe anything on these forums have any effect on anyone's livelihood. To believe in something as stupid as that takes a very peculiar, exceptionally weak type of person in everyday life.
    How can you believe that? Your behavior on these forums is why noone gives a fuck whether or not you played the VP glitch. You were unable to get on GWAE with what one could consider the biggest ever story in VP.
    I would have gone on GWAE if I had been asked, but I've never tried. Anyone who passed on this doesn't know how to generate business. Even IGT has encouraged me not to make too big a story out of this, for obvious reasons. There's more going on than you think. Either way, nothing on these forums has any effect on my livelihood and never has. It's mainly entertainment for those of us that have had much more productive lives.

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I just thought of your name kew, and I burst out laughing at how you want to believe anything on these forums have any effect on anyone's livelihood. To believe in something as stupid as that takes a very peculiar, exceptionally weak type of person in everyday life.
    How can you believe that? Your behavior on these forums is why noone gives a fuck whether or not you played the VP glitch. You were unable to get on GWAE with what one could consider the biggest ever story in VP.
    I would have gone on GWAE if I had been asked, but I've never tried. Anyone who passed on this doesn't know how to generate business. Even IGT has encouraged me not to make too big a story out of this, for obvious reasons. There's more going on than you think. Either way, nothing on these forums has any effect on my livelihood and never has. It's mainly entertainment for those of us that have had much more productive lives.
    That's my point. Why do you think you weren't asked? For awhile there you were trying to get MickeyCrimm to put the word in for you to get on the show. I don't know if he did or not but I'm pretty sure they heard about your story and rejected it because of your online rep. Maybe I'm wrong. It would be interesting to see correspondence with IGT regarding this matter. With necessary redactions of course.

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post

    How can you believe that? Your behavior on these forums is why noone gives a fuck whether or not you played the VP glitch. You were unable to get on GWAE with what one could consider the biggest ever story in VP.
    I would have gone on GWAE if I had been asked, but I've never tried. Anyone who passed on this doesn't know how to generate business. Even IGT has encouraged me not to make too big a story out of this, for obvious reasons. There's more going on than you think. Either way, nothing on these forums has any effect on my livelihood and never has. It's mainly entertainment for those of us that have had much more productive lives.
    That's my point. Why do you think you weren't asked? For awhile there you were trying to get MickeyCrimm to put the word in for you to get on the show. I don't know if he did or not but I'm pretty sure they heard about your story and rejected it because of your online rep. Maybe I'm wrong. It would be interesting to see correspondence with IGT regarding this matter. With necessary redactions of course.
    Of course my online reputation isn't stellar, and I don't fault Dancer for his negative reaction.
    IGT doesn't move very fast and it's in the early stages, nothing in writing as yet.

    I will say this about that however. I understood and understand more about what committed AP's really do and how they operate, from talking to axel and mickey and following their words and correspondence on twitter and some of it here, than I've seen anywhere else. I now understand my failure as an AP better also--other than my 5-1/2 years as a glitch ap. It's more than attitude and money.

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    It certainly could affect an AP's, game developers, tout's or some other gambling related business income if they were to get banned from there.

    EDIT: LOL, I SOMEHOW TYPED KJIZ. I kinda like it
    First, I am not the least bit surprises you like KJ jizz, Axelwolf. I always suspected you are a deeply closeted....well whatever, with all your gay "humor". But that's another topic of discussion...and not one that can be discussed at WoV any longer.

    More seriously, I agree with Axel that these bannings effect a players reputation. In my case it did have an effect on my book deal. Some of that my doing.

    It also can have an effect on how other AP's view you and can influence if they want to do business with you. In my case I am not seeking to partner or do business with anyone, but you never know.

    There was a poster at WoV, claiming to be Bojack from the old BJinfo and Bojack from the old BJinfo was most likely Tommy Hyland. This Bojack reincarnated at WoV claims to have looked me up, with interest in me playing for his well known team, but decided against it because of my posting. Frankly I don't believe any of that story. I don't think the guy posting as bojack at WoV was the same bojack (likely Tommy Hyland but never confirmed) and I don't think anyone found me and viewed my play without me knowing. I am pretty aware of what is happening around me when I play. But it just goes to show that these things that happen on these forums, banning and feuds can effect what other players think of someone, which could translate into lost business opportunities. Translation: costs money! That is why I take it so seriously.
    There's NO WAY that someone reading MWP's posts would be like, "Oh yeah, this is the guy I want to partner up with!"
    #FreeTyde

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post

    How can you believe that? Your behavior on these forums is why noone gives a fuck whether or not you played the VP glitch. You were unable to get on GWAE with what one could consider the biggest ever story in VP.
    I would have gone on GWAE if I had been asked, but I've never tried. Anyone who passed on this doesn't know how to generate business. Even IGT has encouraged me not to make too big a story out of this, for obvious reasons. There's more going on than you think. Either way, nothing on these forums has any effect on my livelihood and never has. It's mainly entertainment for those of us that have had much more productive lives.
    That's my point. Why do you think you weren't asked? For awhile there you were trying to get MickeyCrimm to put the word in for you to get on the show. I don't know if he did or not but I'm pretty sure they heard about your story and rejected it because of your online rep. Maybe I'm wrong. It would be interesting to see correspondence with IGT regarding this matter. With necessary redactions of course.
    I let both Dancer and Munchkin know about Rob working the Game King glitch and how much he made over a 5 year period. I told them the story was out there if they were interested. I got a one word response from Dancer "Thanks." No response from Munchkin but I suspect that Dancer squashed any chance of a GWAE interview. And I suspect that Munchkin would be interested if not for Bob.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 08-15-2019 at 03:17 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  18. #18
    They don't want him on there because he's a self admitted liar and is also lying about this playing this "glitch." Wise up!

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    They don't want him on there because he's a self admitted liar and is also lying about this playing this "glitch." Wise up!
    Hmmm....a well known liar who has this magnificent story! What could go wrong?
    #FreeTyde

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I let both Dancer and Munchkin know about Rob working the Game King glitch and how much he made over a 5 year period. I told them the story was out there if they were interested. I got a one word response from Dancer "Thanks." No response from Munchkin but I suspect that Dancer squashed any chance of a GWAE interview. And I suspect that Munchkin would be interested if not for Bob.
    You probably should have tried to go through Munchkin, just because of the history between Dancer and Singer. Munchkin is a pretty level headed guy. But either way, you would have had to attempt to really sell it Mickey, just because Singer has zero credibility. You would have had to say what makes you, a very knowledgeable AP on the subject believe Singer is telling the truth. In short, you would have had to put YOUR credibility on the line for Singer. You did that here, rather ferociously. Is there a reason you weren't willing to do so, further?

    And what happened with Shackleford re-interviewing Singer? Wasn't Axelwolf trying to set that up? I mean Shackleford seems like a pretty open-minded guy so I can't imagine there would be any obstacles there.

    Obviously I am being VERY sarcastic. Shackleford is anything but open-minded. But he should be. If Singer's claim is anything close to true, it is should be a huge story in the AP gambling community and should be heard regardless of whether people like Singer or not.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 08-15-2019 at 08:04 AM.

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