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Thread: GWAE episode with "The Doc"

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    So this evening driving between casinos, I listened to Part 2 of Gambling with an Edge episode featuring "the Doc". Doc is not a professional blackjack player, he is a medical doctor. But he is very serious about his card counting/AP career, treats it very professionally and has plans to play professionally when he retires from his medical career. I was very impressed with his professional approach. Kudos to "Doc" or "the Doc" for an informative and well done episode.

    I strongly recommend both aspiring card counters (if there are any on this forum) as well as professional players take a listen to Doc. I found myself agreeing with almost everything he said, with the possible exception that a player can afford a little bit of cover. There are some low cost cover techniques that do make a difference as far as longevity.

    During the interview it was mentioned that "the Doc" participates on at least one of the gambling/AP forums. I am not really familiar with "the Doc" from any forums. There is "Doc" at WoV, but I am not familiar with him being this serious of a blackjack player. Anyone know if this is the same "Doc"?



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    For the love of God, how many God damn episodes on gambling with an edge is about blackjack. I was about to listen to it today when I thought f*** this is the same s*** over and over and over.

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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    For the love of God, how many God damn episodes on gambling with an edge is about blackjack. I was about to listen to it today when I thought f*** this is the same s*** over and over and over.
    Well that's because you guys that do other AP things, are tight lipped and won't go on GWAE and discuss anything. Mickeycrimm was one of the few that did.

    What say you go on and share some of the stuff you do, Axelwolf? I am guessing NOT....hun?

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    For the love of God, how many God damn episodes on gambling with an edge is about blackjack. I was about to listen to it today when I thought f*** this is the same s*** over and over and over.
    Well that's because you guys that do other AP things, are tight lipped and won't go on GWAE and discuss anything. Mickeycrimm was one of the few that did.

    What say you go on and share some of the stuff you do, Axelwolf? I am guessing NOT....hun?
    I've seen plenty of other interesting topics on that show but they keep on going back to the well with the same Blackjack b*******.

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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    For the love of God, how many God damn episodes on gambling with an edge is about blackjack. I was about to listen to it today when I thought f*** this is the same s*** over and over and over.
    Well that's because you guys that do other AP things, are tight lipped and won't go on GWAE and discuss anything. Mickeycrimm was one of the few that did.

    What say you go on and share some of the stuff you do, Axelwolf? I am guessing NOT....hun?
    I've seen plenty of other interesting topics on that show but they keep on going back to the well with the same Blackjack b*******.
    I'll reiterate something I said a few days ago:

    "Card counting is boring. Talking about it online is 10,000x more boring"

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    Doc on the WoV is already retired. For something like 15 years now. I can say for sure it's not him.

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    The thing about BJ is it is widely appealing. Most AP stuff you can't practice quite thoroughly at home nor is it as widely discussed. BJ is like the only real AP thing where you can learn it at home, know your casino, show up and apply it. It is great for part-time weekend warrior type APing.

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    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Doc on the WoV is already retired. For something like 15 years now. I can say for sure it's not him.
    There could be multiple well known AP Gamblers nicknamed "Doc."

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    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Doc on the WoV is already retired. For something like 15 years now. I can say for sure it's not him.
    There could be multiple well known AP Gamblers nicknamed "Doc."
    Where should I ship your Master of the Obvious Award? I was answering Kewlj's question. I didn't know it was possible for more than one person to have the same screen name on the same site. Now we all know it is possible for one person to be as many screen names as they want. Including you.

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    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Doc on the WoV is already retired. For something like 15 years now. I can say for sure it's not him.
    There could be multiple well known AP Gamblers nicknamed "Doc."
    Where should I ship your Master of the Obvious Award? I was answering Kewlj's question. I didn't know it was possible for more than one person to have the same screen name on the same site. Now we all know it is possible for one person to be as many screen names as they want. Including you.
    Nathan is right, though. There could be multiple well known AP Gamblers nicknamed "Doc."

    Sacre Bleu!

    O _ O
    #FreeTyde

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    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post

    There could be multiple well known AP Gamblers nicknamed "Doc."
    Where should I ship your Master of the Obvious Award? I was answering Kewlj's question. I didn't know it was possible for more than one person to have the same screen name on the same site. Now we all know it is possible for one person to be as many screen names as they want. Including you.
    Nathan is right, though. There could be multiple well known AP Gamblers nicknamed "Doc."

    Sacre Bleu!

    O _ O
    Well that's what the award is for.

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    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Doc on the WoV is already retired. For something like 15 years now. I can say for sure it's not him.
    There could be multiple well known AP Gamblers nicknamed "Doc."
    Where should I ship your Master of the Obvious Award? I was answering Kewlj's question. I didn't know it was possible for more than one person to have the same screen name on the same site. Now we all know it is possible for one person to be as many screen names as they want. Including you.
    Hey! I was only like 7 names on WOV! :P

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    It was a great episode IMHO (just like the week before). The show could have a lot more great guests though if Dancer the Clown was replaced. For example, in one recent week they had some woman on (probably eye-candy) named "Black Asian" who didn't know you should never play casino games if you don't have an edge - she was a supposed BJ counter.

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    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    It was a great episode IMHO (just like the week before). The show could have a lot more great guests though if Dancer the Clown was replaced. For example, in one recent week they had some woman on (probably eye-candy) named "Black Asian" who didn't know you should never play casino games if you don't have an edge - she was a supposed BJ counter.
    Piss on Dancer. He NEEDS a players card to be profitable. Revoke them, and he's just another ploppie in the wind.

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    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    The thing about BJ is it is widely appealing. Most AP stuff you can't practice quite thoroughly at home nor is it as widely discussed. BJ is like the only real AP thing where you can learn it at home, know your casino, show up and apply it. It is great for part-time weekend warrior type APing.
    I can't argue with this.

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    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    It was a great episode IMHO (just like the week before). The show could have a lot more great guests though if Dancer the Clown was replaced. For example, in one recent week they had some woman on (probably eye-candy) named "Black Asian" who didn't know you should never play casino games if you don't have an edge - she was a supposed BJ counter.
    Piss on Dancer. He NEEDS a players card to be profitable. Revoke them, and he's just another ploppie in the wind.
    Yup.

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    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    It was a great episode IMHO (just like the week before). The show could have a lot more great guests though if Dancer the Clown was replaced. For example, in one recent week they had some woman on (probably eye-candy) named "Black Asian" who didn't know you should never play casino games if you don't have an edge - she was a supposed BJ counter.
    Piss on Dancer. He NEEDS a players card to be profitable. Revoke them, and he's just another ploppie in the wind.
    Yup.
    Also, he shills for one of the SWEATIEST casinos in the Vegas area.

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    I have to disagree with this About Bob dancer. He's able to figure out lots of different angles and take advantage of them. He started out doing those types of things. The question would be, if he had to abandon the high limit play stuff with thin edges would he be motivated enough to actually do some of the other things needed in order to make money? I have no doubt the guy is smart enough to master any aspect of the AP if he his mind and time into it. There is no doubt he has the connections to get involved with any aspect of Advantage play. A fairly certain that people would be willing to teach and spoon-feed him all the information he needed or wanted. And he either has the bank roll or can get a hold of it in order to do those things without the fear of losing.

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