Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
I disagree that Dan did not take this promo seriously. He brought his gf in to maximize the free play amount. And if you've read any history here, he has virtual epileptic attacks over $20 retail mistakes and feeling he's being stiffed free bottles of Gatorade.
Yeah, it is kind of funny that in another thread, Dan Druff referred to me as dramatic, when he goes ballistic over $5 and $10 incidents when he feels he has been wronged. But that's fine.

Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
"Free play is free play, not free money."

This is exactly correct. Casinos have the right to do anything they choose when they offer a free play promo.
Dan Druff specifically said that these promos didn't quite cross into "illegal" territory. But they are misleading. And if 99% of the people walk away feeling they were mislead, screwed or scammed, you have to wonder if such a promotion didn't achieve just the opposite of it's intended purpose. These things are about getting new players in the door, not having players first impression being "that place is a rip off". Not going to get much return customers who feel THAT way.

Just seems to be another of those bad ideas things that comes out of business school, as opposed to when real casino people ran the casino business.

Dan has a strong drive to keep people honest. The world needs more people like him, so everyone else who just rolls over and takes it.. well won't have to roll over and take it as often. I've seen stories of the man gettin shit straightened out over a video game that was taking quarters with no play.

You guys are right about business people running gambling stuff which they rarely seem to fully understand. Where I'm from we have poker clubs. Some of them were started by business guys and were first to the gray market and not busted. Things were great for years, but then they started doing shit all the regulars told them was a bad idea. They really only understand things on a simple 1 or 2 levels. Now that room is hurting and will likely never gain their share back. They blame it on geographic location, but a lot of it was making poor decisions.

They decided they were going to be 24/7 on weekends. First night. I show up to play in the biggest game. There is also a private game that has been allowed to poach the bad players off the floor. Well the smart regs are like, fuck this. I'm not sitting around here paying time to play these other regs. Many many complaints were made, but nothing was done. The public big game started to die because fish were all called into the private game and drained Friday night. So I show up that first night to have a long all night session, game is down to headsup. 20 minutes into headsup, they tell us they have to break the table. I was happy to be able to play headsup for at least 1 hour. I forget the reason they gave, but it was a nonsensical reason. They were just too cheap and realized it was break even for them to operate that table, but I sure as fuck didn't come there to play lower. I'd brought in patrons to this joint who gave them 100s if not more in revenue. I don't say anything or expect anything, but when I looked back at the whole situation it pissed me off enough to not go there that often.

So they saved $5 and probably cost themselves a few hundred. Fucking dipshits. Problem is I like most of the staff. The management that interfaces with customer is just told what to do. I get no satisfaction in seeing the place doing so poorly, because the business guys already made $$ hand over fist for years. Anyway.. I'm ranting off subject.