View Poll Results: Who has the higher IQ?

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  • Rob Singer

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  • Tasha

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Thread: Singer or Tasha, whose the smartest?

  1. #61
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    This whole thing really is about the timeline. And here is that timeline.

    Rob and Mickey have been going at each other for years, trying to belittle and discredit each other. For the most part these attacks would be of a personal nature, because it was clear to everyone on this forum, in the AP community and the world that Mickey is more knowledgeable AP, with REAL AP play and winnings, than Rob. Only Rob and his one or two fans like Slingshot believed Rob's nonsense.

    So here was the devastating point for Rob. Mickey went on GWAE, I believe twice, was well received throughout the gambling AP community as it was very apparent that he knew what he was talking about. You know my feeling...."It's not that hard to figure out who knows what they are talking about.....". So this infuriated Rob, as in his mind it elevated Mickey above him in the AP community. Truth be told, Mickey was always far ahead of Rob.

    So with his relevancy on the decline, very few people believing him and his fans/supporters dwindling to like 1, Rob's first shot at more relevancy was that phony picture of a 200k jackpot, which was quickly debunked and proven phony. That having failed he "concocted" (borrowing this word from RS_) this double up bug story. But to make this story fly, to have any credibility he had to get at least 1 of the two top respected AP's on this forum on board, at least saying it "could have happened".

    I don't know what took place between Axel and Rob, nor do I even know what Axel's position is. It's murky and he doesn't seem to want to clarify it. But Mickey, beaten up by Rob's vicious personal attacks for years, maybe decades, and when I say beaten, up, I mean continuing comments about his being a drunk and low education. Of course that would bother someone. So Rob offers Mickey this truce, mickey jumps at it and becomes Rob's biggest supporter.
    Your post is all fantasy and quackery. No one can mentally beat me up. I'm to goddam tough for that shit. I'm an old rail rider. It ain't for pussies. Your buddy shack had riding a freight train on his bucket list. But when I told him, on WoV, of the harsh realities of riding the rails, wearing steel toed boots and carrying a ball pean hammer for protection the pussy quickly took riding a train off his bucket list. That's the kind of world I came out of. No one could push me around on the rails and no one can push me around here. Especially you, pipsqueak. And that's what you are trying to do right here, isn't it? Push me around until I make some sort of concession. Dude, you got no clue what you're fucking with. Good luck with trying to push me around, pipsqueak.

    Now, tell us all who debunked and disproved the 200K picture. You can't because nobody did. It's just your delusional thinking. No one debunked and disproved Rob on that story. He simply admitted what he did. And you call that "he was debunked and disproved." This is what your drama queen mind allows you to do. Just make shit up to suit your arguments. Total bullshit.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Now, tell us all who debunked and disproved the 200K picture. You can't because nobody did. It's just your delusional thinking. No one debunked and disproved Rob on that story. He simply admitted what he did. And you call that "he was debunked and disproved." This is what your drama queen mind allows you to do. Just make shit up to suit your arguments. Total bullshit.
    Made up shit? I posted YOUR OWN words. And not from years and years ago....from 4 months ago! I am sorry that your only retort is to get nasty as you always do.

  3. #63
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    OK Rob, I went back and read from the time you posted the phony picture. I am going to go back to the timeline thing because I like that. It is how law enforcement usually catches the liar and bad guy, and it works pretty well here too.

    So you posted this phony picture, claiming it was yours and yours alone. Mickeycrimm, you remember him, your new best friend and supporter asked you like half dozen times for the accompanying W2-G's and there should have been a bunch for any hand of 3ok or more. After 8 days and numerous different excuses of why you couldn't post accompanying W2-G's, you came up with this story which apparently you are sticking with that, you "partnered" with someone and he got the W2-G's.

    Now it was also during this discussion that Dan Druff reminded everyone of another incident 5 years prior where you posted a $50,000 jackpot win and it turned out that by the ID marks on that photo Dan was able to determine that picture occurred more than 6 months prior to your claim. In other words: you stole someone else's jackpot picture and claimed it as your own.

    These things are proof that you are, have always been and continue to be full of shit, Rob, regardless of any new found alliance with Mickeycrimm. Now speaking of Mickeycrimm, I want to post his quotes from that week directed at you, plus and additional 2 quotes from Mickeycrimm to Alan, who was defending you (as usual).

    And let me just say that I miss THIS mickeycrimm. A guy who spoke the truth and called out BS, regardless of any kind of "alliance".



    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    It's 100% that Robocchio didn't hit the 4 Aces in the picture. Everyone knows how he is. If he had a W2-G for it he would have posted it faster than greased lightning just so he could rub everyone's nose in it.

    Another thing is where are all the other W-2G's? At $500 per hand you get a W2-G for everything 3 of a Kind or higher. The machine will lock up every time you hit a 3K or higher. Don't know how it works nowadays but it used to be the casino would assign someone to stand by the player and write the W2-G's.
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    More deflection which is more proof Robocchio didn't hit the hand. Con game over, Robocchio.
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    So why did he go against everything he has stood for for 20 years and play this game? I personally don't think he did but a pic of the W2-G would sure rub our noses in it.
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    You're as phony as a three dollar bill, Robocchio.
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Robocchio, Richard Munchkin tweeted that they are looking for new people to interview on Gambling With An Edge. They have interviewed pretty much everyone in gambling....except the self described "World's Best Video Poker Player." How could they have overlooked you?

    Why don't you contact them about being on the show? So they can tell you they don't interview lying, bet welshing, psychobabbling fraudsters like you.
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Singer craves attention and credibility in the video poker world but his goofball gambling tactics, and relentless attacks on professional players, make that impossible.




    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Why don't you just admit you made the whole thing up?.
    Are you addressing Robocchio and the fake 200K jackpot?
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Now ask yourself this. Why was Robocchio appearing to be licking his chops over that DDB payscale? Remember, he has said for years that payscales don't matter. But all of a sudden it does. Your buddy, Robocchio is ten times as phony as you are. And that's as phony as it gets.
    edit: Correcting my earlier statement that Alan was defending Rob (as usual), I stand corrected. Even Alan was calling bullshit on this one. Good Job Alan.
    Reading some of my posts here had me in stitches. Thats the kind of mud Rob and i slung at each other for years. I think we called each other scumbags to the tenth power a million times or more. But then one day we quit trolling each other and you guys go ape shit. It was a real eye-opener for me. KJ, you guys are addicted to the troll. You don't want it any other way. You're haters. I'm not a hater but I can get mean when I want to. Putting my quotes up here is just another of your attempts to get Rob and I to go back at it. You are bound and determined to drive a wedge into our truce. Says a lot about you. And it's not good.

    And here you go making up facts again to suit yourself. When Dan found that the picture was taken six months prior it proved....THAT THE PICTURE WAS TAKEN SIX MONTHS PRIOR. IT DID NOT PROVE IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE'S PICTURE!

    So, Inspector Clouseau, er, KJ, what's the next fantasy bullshit you are going to make up?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #64
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Now, tell us all who debunked and disproved the 200K picture. You can't because nobody did. It's just your delusional thinking. No one debunked and disproved Rob on that story. He simply admitted what he did. And you call that "he was debunked and disproved." This is what your drama queen mind allows you to do. Just make shit up to suit your arguments. Total bullshit.
    Made up shit? I posted YOUR OWN words. And not from years and years ago....from 4 months ago! I am sorry that your only retort is to get nasty as you always do.
    Quit with your lies and you won't have a problem. Keep it up and you have a problem.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    You are stupid funny. That's stoooopid.....and funny too. You just wrote a long attack on me saying you don't attack me. LOLOLOL!!! That's how STUPID you are. Fuck off and die, bitch. You psychotic maggot. HAHAHAHA!!!!

    And you are a bald face lying cunt. I've stayed out of your troll feud with Rob. You keep trying to drag me into it just like you are doing now. I'm not jumping in and defending Rob. I'm jumping in and defending myself from your MALICIOUS ALLEGATIONS!!!! Repeat, MALICIOUS ALLEGATIONS!!!. Quit trying to drag me into your troll feud, drama queen. And that's confederacy not confederates. That old confederacy is no more. There's a new Confederacy of Dunces now and YOU are the ringleader.

    KJ'S CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES. Sounds catchy. Now go suck some dick, bitch.
    MALICIOUS ALLEGATIONS?? You mean your own words? THAT is malicious allegations? I am sorry if you are embarrassed that you can't explain yourself, but reminding people of your own words from 4 months ago is NOT malicious allegations.

    Oh WoW! Mickeycrimm called me a bitch. What a shock! "Go suck a dick?" Thanks I probably will. Do you really think these kinds of things offend me Mickeycrimm? I have heard it all, everything your homophobic ass can hurl and more throughout my life. The only thing even a little bit new here is you proving what a low life you are. Great and knowledgeable AP, but as a person, pretty small.

    Hey if you want to act like a 10 year old and call each other homophobic names and attacks, I can do that too. Everyone on this forum knows that Rob's dick smells like your shit from fucking you like the little bitch that you have become. He played you like the fool that you have proven to be. You are Rob's little bitch boy now Mickey. Congratulations.
    90% of homos are pedophiles. You're in the majority, right KJ? How many kids did you molest?

    The only thing that pisses you off is you can't beat me down. But I can beat you down you little bitch.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Quit with your lies and you won't have a problem. Keep it up and you have a problem.
    Typical Mickey, now he will start with threats.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Reading some of my posts here had me in stitches. That's the kind of mud Rob and i slung at each other for years. I think we called each other scumbags to the tenth power a million times or more. But then one day we quit trolling each other and you guys go ape shit.
    This is about the saddest explanation you could come up with. This is a guy (mickey) throwing away his credibility. This is a guy (Mickey) admitting he is not an honest person and the things he says and his opinions may or may not be the truthful depending on how he feels about the person.

    Mickeycrimm, this is NOT the way it works. The truth is the truth and that doesn't change because you like or dislike the person. If it does then you are the one not being truthful.

    When I call people out like Singer or the Clown at Norm's Forum, or even the crazy guy up in Reno (who is likely now in jail as his ranting has diminished to the times they allow him internet access) it is because their claims are not possible and are misleading other players and people. And I wouldn't change because all of the sudden I decided I "liked" the person.

    I mean, I like RS_ , MaxPen, Bosox and Boz to name a few. But if any of these guys started making outrageous , ridiculous claims that goes against the mathematics, I would call them out. The truth doesn't change because you like or dislike someone. If it does then you are the dishonest one.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 08-27-2019 at 11:21 PM.

  7. #67
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    90% of homos are pedophiles. You're in the majority, right KJ? How many kids did you molest?

    The only thing that pisses you off is you can't beat me down. But I can beat you down you little bitch.
    Mickeycrimm showing his class(less). No other response needed.

  8. #68
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    I'm pretty sure Rob promising to find one of these machines and reveal it's location to Mickey is one of the reasons for Mickey's unquestioning support. Mickey is hoping that it is true. I have no idea if Rob is telling the truth or not. Maybe he is. Maybe he isn't. I don't really care either way. I do miss the Robbochio gifs though...lol
    Max, I keep telling myself I'm going to retire, kick back and take it easy. But the money is just to damn easy to make right now. I've slowed way down though. I don't get in a hurry to do anything. I've always been a lone wolf in the gambling world. I've always gone out and found my own plays and never horned in on anyone's else's plays. Never wanted to get involved with other gamblers. Nothing is going to change that. Just the other day Axel asked me if I was willing to fly in on plays if they came up. Everyone knows axel works big plays. I said "no, I'm fine working my own plays."

    I cruise enough casinos with old game kings. I could be looking if I wanted to but don't. The darkside has to much information on the glitch now. I would never put myself in that position. Even if someone were to offer I wouldn't accept.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #69
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    90% of homos are pedophiles. You're in the majority, right KJ? How many kids did you molest?

    The only thing that pisses you off is you can't beat me down. But I can beat you down you little bitch.
    Mickeycrimm showing his class(less). No other response needed.
    You fire me up then expect me to be polite? GTFO!
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #70
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Now, tell us all who debunked and disproved the 200K picture. You can't because nobody did. It's just your delusional thinking. No one debunked and disproved Rob on that story. He simply admitted what he did. And you call that "he was debunked and disproved." This is what your drama queen mind allows you to do. Just make shit up to suit your arguments. Total bullshit.
    Made up shit? I posted YOUR OWN words. And not from years and years ago....from 4 months ago! I am sorry that your only retort is to get nasty as you always do.
    Again, don't expect me to be nice when you fire my ass up.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #71
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Quit with your lies and you won't have a problem. Keep it up and you have a problem.
    Typical Mickey, now he will start with threats.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Reading some of my posts here had me in stitches. That's the kind of mud Rob and i slung at each other for years. I think we called each other scumbags to the tenth power a million times or more. But then one day we quit trolling each other and you guys go ape shit.
    This is about the saddest explanation you could come up with. This is a guy (mickey) throwing away his credibility. This is a guy (Mickey) admitting he is not an honest person and the things he says and his opinions may or may not be the truthful depending on how he feels about the person.

    Mickeycrimm, this is NOT the way it works. The truth is the truth and that doesn't change because you like or dislike the person. If it does then you are the one not being truthful.

    When I call people out like Singer or the Clown at Norm's Forum, or even the crazy guy up in Reno (who is likely now in jail as his ranting has diminished to the times they allow him internet access) it is because their claims are not possible and are misleading other players and people. And I wouldn't change because all of the sudden I decided I "liked" the person.

    I mean, I like RS_ , MaxPen, Bosox and Boz to name a few. But if any of these guys started making outrageous , ridiculous claims that goes against the mathematics, I would call them out. The truth doesn't change because you like or dislike someone. If it does then you are the dishonest one.
    I'm doing something you don't have the balls or class to do, honoring a truce. You are a very small person. Very weak minded. A hater. That's sad and pathetic. Stay bogged down in the bullshit if you want to but leave me out of it.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #72
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I didn't say if Rob Did or didn't play the machines machines. I don't know how many times I must repeat this. I said Rob seemed sincere when I talked to him and he had knowlage beyond what most people would have
    I am not going to go back and find exactly what you wrote, but it is clear quite a number of people, myself included seemed to take what you said differently than you meant. You apparently weren't very clear. Maybe intentionally.

    So in the name of clarity I ask you to give your opinion based on everything you have heard and know about the play. I have asked this before and you have ignored me, leaving me to believe you intentionally want this to be murky. People, again myself included, are interested in your opinion, just as we are Mickey's because of your expertise. AND this is the same reason that Rob picked you. So is it asking too much for you to give your best opinion....clearer than you did the first time?
    Then that's on you if you don't want to go back and read what I was trying to convey. When I agreed to talk to Rob about this I wanted to remain unbiased and as impartial as I could. If I recall correctly I said I was going to present what Rob told me and let you guys decide for yourself. If I enough evidence to be convinced one way or the other I would give my opinion. If I thought Rob was most likely lying and full of s*** I would have said so. If I was convinced Rob did in fact do what he said regarding the double up bug, I would have said so. I'm just not convinced either way. Given Rob's history here, it would be much easier and more fun to claim I think he's full of s*** and lying. Had I had that conversation with Rob, but I had no clue it was Rob, I would have been convinced whomever I was talking to was in fact telling me the truth and being sincere. If I think about it, some of the things make sense that he did play it.

    There are some things that don't make sense. I've mentioned this before, given that Rob always seemed to seek out some combination of acknowledgment, recognition, appreciation, respect and notoriety. Add in the fact that Rob loves proving people wrong. It seems very odd to me Rob didn't and wouldn't have saved enough evidence to prove all this. Even he has to admit not doing so is very contradictory of his nature. Even now, if everything Rob is saying is true I believe there would be a way or him to prove it. Perhaps he's looking and waiting for a significant reason to do so, something that benefits him. That just seems like the smart thing to do in my opinion. Sorry to burst your bubble KJ, but proving you wrong just doesn't seem like a significant enough reason.

    Rob admitted he's been trolling us because he had some agenda for acting the way he has related to this double up bug. I can't possibly fathom a good reason that would be. How does going out of your way being an a****** and rude to Advantage players and others help you in this situation??? Here's an idea, shut your f****** mouth, make your money, spend it, and act normal(Act normal: I guess I forgot who I'm talking to, then again, I think you can probably recognize SOMEONE ELSE who's acting abnormal).

    I also find it odd that and all these years Rob has not even alluded to the fact she did something stellar and one day it would come out. Not even a timestamped email to himself or someone else he could show us. Obviously something like that didn't have to give great details or say anything that would incriminate you but just enough that would document something you just came up with after the fact. I myself have done that or a few things just in case a situation ever came up where my story(IF ever wanted to tell it) was called into question.

    At some point, I'm hoping this will escalate a little bit further and something will happen more then Rob just writing words on a forum, Because, it seems to me he's on a complete free-roll. For the most part he's already tarnished his reputation and has nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

    If it turns out not to be true, he could always come back and say, I was trolling you guys... ha! ha! ha! people fell for it fell for it including MC and AW. If it's true, he gained some type of notoriety or whatever the f*** you want to call it. Perhaps he's looking to capitalize on it somehow. If nothing else, He has an i-told-you-so moment he can revel in.

    Hey Dandruff, how about having them as a guest on pokerfraudalert? I would certainly hate to be under the scrutiny of the poker community if I was lying about something like this. I have no doubt with enough eyes and ears on this situation from enough Advantage players/poker players the truth would come out one way or the other.

  13. #73
    From riding the rails to flying off the rails, Mickey's done it all.
    #FreeTyde

  14. #74
    Thank you guys who voted in the majority that you think I am smarter than Rob Singer! Although I do get that the poll may have been sarcastic and facetious,

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I didn't say if Rob Did or didn't play the machines machines. I don't know how many times I must repeat this. I said Rob seemed sincere when I talked to him and he had knowlage beyond what most people would have
    I am not going to go back and find exactly what you wrote, but it is clear quite a number of people, myself included seemed to take what you said differently than you meant. You apparently weren't very clear. Maybe intentionally.

    So in the name of clarity I ask you to give your opinion based on everything you have heard and know about the play. I have asked this before and you have ignored me, leaving me to believe you intentionally want this to be murky. People, again myself included, are interested in your opinion, just as we are Mickey's because of your expertise. AND this is the same reason that Rob picked you. So is it asking too much for you to give your best opinion....clearer than you did the first time?
    Then that's on you if you don't want to go back and read what I was trying to convey. When I agreed to talk to Rob about this I wanted to remain unbiased and as impartial as I could. If I recall correctly I said I was going to present what Rob told me and let you guys decide for yourself. If I enough evidence to be convinced one way or the other I would give my opinion. If I thought Rob was most likely lying and full of s*** I would have said so. If I was convinced Rob did in fact do what he said regarding the double up bug, I would have said so. I'm just not convinced either way. Given Rob's history here, it would be much easier and more fun to claim I think he's full of s*** and lying. Had I, had that conversation with Rob, but I had no clue it was Rob, I would have been convinced whomever I was talking to was in fact telling me the truth and being sincere. If I think about it, some of the things make sense that he did play it. BUT........

    There are some things that don't make sense. I've mentioned this before, given that Rob always seemed to seek out some combination of acknowledgment, recognition, appreciation, respect and notoriety. Add in the fact that Rob loves proving people wrong. It seems very odd to me Rob didn't and wouldn't have saved enough evidence to prove all this. Even he has to admit not doing so is very contradictory of his nature. Even now, if everything Rob is saying is true I believe there would be a way or him to prove it. Perhaps he's looking and waiting for a significant reason to do so, something that benefits him. That just seems like the smart thing to do in my opinion. Sorry to burst your bubble KJ, but proving you wrong just doesn't seem like a significant enough reason.

    Rob admitted he's been trolling us because he had some agenda for acting the way he has related to this double up bug. I can't possibly fathom a good reason that would be. How does going out of your way being an a****** and rude to Advantage players and others help you in this situation??? Here's an idea, shut your f****** mouth, make your money, spend it, and act normal(Act normal: I guess I forgot who I'm talking to, then again, I think you can probably recognize SOMEONE ELSE who's acting abnormal).

    I also find it odd that and all these years Rob has not even alluded to the fact she did something stellar and one day it would come out. Not even a timestamped email to himself or someone else he could show us. Obviously something like that didn't have to give great details or say anything that would incriminate you but just enough that would document something you just came up with after the fact. I myself have done that or a few things just in case a situation ever came up where my story(IF ever wanted to tell it) was called into question.

    At some point, I'm hoping this will escalate a little bit further and something will happen more then Rob just writing words on a forum, Because, it seems to me he's on a complete free-roll. For the most part he's already tarnished his reputation and has nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

    If it turns out not to be true, he could always come back and say, I was trolling you guys... ha! ha! ha! people fell for it fell for it including MC and AW. If it's true, he gained some type of notoriety or whatever the f*** you want to call it. Perhaps he's looking to capitalize on it somehow. If nothing else, He has an i-told-you-so moment he can revel in.

    Hey Dandruff, how about having them as a guest on pokerfraudalert? I would certainly hate to be under the scrutiny of the poker community if I was lying about something like this. I have no doubt with enough eyes and ears on this situation from enough Advantage players/poker players the truth would come out one way or the other.

  16. #76
    Micky that pedo stuff you directed at KJ was out of line.

    But this is funny as hell....



    Bachelor Vatican Edition


  17. #77
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I didn't say if Rob Did or didn't play the machines machines. I don't know how many times I must repeat this. I said Rob seemed sincere when I talked to him and he had knowlage beyond what most people would have
    I am not going to go back and find exactly what you wrote, but it is clear quite a number of people, myself included seemed to take what you said differently than you meant. You apparently weren't very clear. Maybe intentionally.

    So in the name of clarity I ask you to give your opinion based on everything you have heard and know about the play. I have asked this before and you have ignored me, leaving me to believe you intentionally want this to be murky. People, again myself included, are interested in your opinion, just as we are Mickey's because of your expertise. AND this is the same reason that Rob picked you. So is it asking too much for you to give your best opinion....clearer than you did the first time?
    Then that's on you if you don't want to go back and read what I was trying to convey. When I agreed to talk to Rob about this I wanted to remain unbiased and as impartial as I could. If I recall correctly I said I was going to present what Rob told me and let you guys decide for yourself. If I enough evidence to be convinced one way or the other I would give my opinion. If I thought Rob was most likely lying and full of s*** I would have said so. If I was convinced Rob did in fact do what he said regarding the double up bug, I would have said so. I'm just not convinced either way. Given Rob's history here, it would be much easier and more fun to claim I think he's full of s*** and lying. Had I had that conversation with Rob, but I had no clue it was Rob, I would have been convinced whomever I was talking to was in fact telling me the truth and being sincere. If I think about it, some of the things make sense that he did play it.

    There are some things that don't make sense. I've mentioned this before, given that Rob always seemed to seek out some combination of acknowledgment, recognition, appreciation, respect and notoriety. Add in the fact that Rob loves proving people wrong. It seems very odd to me Rob didn't and wouldn't have saved enough evidence to prove all this. Even he has to admit not doing so is very contradictory of his nature. Even now, if everything Rob is saying is true I believe there would be a way or him to prove it. Perhaps he's looking and waiting for a significant reason to do so, something that benefits him. That just seems like the smart thing to do in my opinion. Sorry to burst your bubble KJ, but proving you wrong just doesn't seem like a significant enough reason.

    Rob admitted he's been trolling us because he had some agenda for acting the way he has related to this double up bug. I can't possibly fathom a good reason that would be. How does going out of your way being an a****** and rude to Advantage players and others help you in this situation??? Here's an idea, shut your f****** mouth, make your money, spend it, and act normal(Act normal: I guess I forgot who I'm talking to, then again, I think you can probably recognize SOMEONE ELSE who's acting abnormal).

    I also find it odd that and all these years Rob has not even alluded to the fact she did something stellar and one day it would come out. Not even a timestamped email to himself or someone else he could show us. Obviously something like that didn't have to give great details or say anything that would incriminate you but just enough that would document something you just came up with after the fact. I myself have done that or a few things just in case a situation ever came up where my story(IF ever wanted to tell it) was called into question.

    At some point, I'm hoping this will escalate a little bit further and something will happen more then Rob just writing words on a forum, Because, it seems to me he's on a complete free-roll. For the most part he's already tarnished his reputation and has nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

    If it turns out not to be true, he could always come back and say, I was trolling you guys... ha! ha! ha! people fell for it fell for it including MC and AW. If it's true, he gained some type of notoriety or whatever the f*** you want to call it. Perhaps he's looking to capitalize on it somehow. If nothing else, He has an i-told-you-so moment he can revel in.

    Hey Dandruff, how about having them as a guest on pokerfraudalert? I would certainly hate to be under the scrutiny of the poker community if I was lying about something like this. I have no doubt with enough eyes and ears on this situation from enough Advantage players/poker players the truth would come out one way or the other.
    OK.. Having recognized all these years I was probably regarded (rightfully so) as a penny ante gambler, probably my problem with the whole thing is during that time frame I relayed that I had inadvertently pushed the du button(didn't even know there was one) and lost $800. I would have appreciated this info from Rob as back then I was hitting quads easily. I hate W2Gs, so if Rob had requested, I would have kept it to myself. Now take this as a whiney person bellyaching or whatever-just saying. And I now realize his predicament and that he earned the right to do whatever. Just saying.

  18. #78
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    If I thought Rob was most likely lying and full of s*** I would have said so. If I was convinced Rob did in fact do what he said regarding the double up bug, I would have said so. I'm just not convinced either way.
    Damn Axelwolf, you could have been or could still be a politician, writing all that to say the 6 words that I highlighted, or the slightly longer version with the preceding two sentences which I have also included.

    I do thank you for clarifying. I too hoped and still hope "at some point this will escalate and Rob will show or have something more than just his word', because frankly his word isn't worth anything to me. I keep asking for something more, but all we get is more of the Rob run-a-round.

    And frankly if this were the first time dealing with him, a person might want to give the benefit of doubt, but there is a long history of this. Outrageous, claims, and then nothing to back it up. Changing excuses, and all that.

    And for those that think I am using a double standard because I repeatedly say people shouldn't have to prove their claims. This is a different situation, a different level. This is such a big claim, it would be monumental. It would in fact be one of the greatest AP plays, so there is proof required. This is different than me claiming to win by my card counting, which many, many players do or can do.

    Here is the analogy. MY claim is equivalent to me saying I ran and finished a half marathon 2 Sundays ago. Nothing extraordinary about that. Many people run and finish marathons and half marathons every week. No proof required. You are free to believe or not believe me. Rob's claim is like him saying he ran a 3 minute mile last Sunday. Something that has never been done. So yeah, THAT requires some sort of proof.

  19. #79
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    You're a scumbag coward for using all those usernames. No one with any standing in the gambling world does that. But I understand why you do it. You don't want all those you trolled to come exposing you on new sites. Just a run of the mill coward. Now run on off to some other new site with another phony username. That is, after you go pee in the women's room.
    No, I actually have a professional career and the internet is full of mentally ill freaks. I don't want them trolling/stalking me.

    We've never even posted on the same forum until now. I was aware of you though from my browsing of other forums where I never bothered to sign up. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything but show your mental illness. I'm a scumbag because I have an actual professional career and would rather not be all over google and the likes. You on the other hand are basically a professional mooch. A nifty mooch, but it isn't like you contribute anything. Yet, so quick to look down on others. A guy with nothing to lose.

    What would it even matter if you knew my other usernames on other forums? Lol. So nuts. So you could go stalk me? I don't put myself out there like you. I seek no attention or glory.

    I haven't trolled anyone on this site outside of Rob nor am I hiding from anyone on this site. Your logic sucks and so do your skills outside of slot machines. Like I said before, stick with the machines as they have treated you well.

    I never said I had any "standing in the gambling world". I referred to myself as a wanna-be weekend warrior AP. Are you this fucking dumb outside of machines? I know a few people, nothing more.

    Sorry you got so worked up over my exposing how Trump owns you mentally. You and your "moderate" views. That is literally what this is all about.

    Man you are nasty. No wonder you couldn't hold down a job. Christ.
    LOL! You fucking pick tomatoes for a living and are one of the mentally ill slug trolls on the internet using the library computer. Dude you ain't got enough gambling money to rub two quarters together. Here's some news. It takes something you ain't got, brains, to be a machine pro. You're running me down for what I do but you want to be exactly like me. You don't have what it takes. Hey, you'll work out fine playing bingo with the little old ladies though. The bingo hall is a perfect spot for idiots like you that don't have what it takes. Remember to yell BINGO!!!

    Your excuses for using all the sockpuppets is chickenshit. Now go back to picking tomatoes. Don't forget to ask your boss for a ten cent an hour raise.
    Micky, a few things. You can make up all you wish about me etc. Just don't talk shit about my character. Ok?!

    For one I don't want to be like you. I find AP stuff fascinating and when/if I come across big plays I may take them in the future. Might even go visit casinos specifically for such purposes. Thats about it.

    For two, I make probably more than you do without near the effort.

    For 3, if I was going to do AP stuff fulltime 100%, I would definitely do something else but machine play.

    Actually, I am considering starting up a slot development company at some point in the future.

    No Micky, I do not want to be you. Good luck telling yourself that.

    I only ran you down to the extent of your socialist this blah blah. I'm almost positive you also whine about people getting free stuff. (ie getting something for free that you can't/don't get. - after all that is the primary motivation of why people like you whine)

    And outside of that, damn these are some good fucking tomatoes.

  20. #80
    Kew will never be happy unless axel says he believes as kew wants him to believe. The only question now is, will this obsession take over his WoV obsession, where we are continuously treated to meaningless long rant after long rant about how everyone is wrong and kew is right.

    My reply to axel over why I didn't set up some elaborate "this will be proof to the critics" is pretty simple: this was BIG to me in my world, and there was always a diminishing chance it could have landed me in prison--something very ominous to a person with a respectable govt & private working career behind him, a long happy marriage, and children and grandchildren. I was extraordinarily focused on making sure my tax returns were 100% according to the book in order to eliminate any trouble from that aspect of the situation. Thinking about being able to prove something like this to mostly anonymous internet forum people or frankly to anyone, did not even come close to making the cut. What was important was that I made money from the play in a way that I would never get noticed doing it. I chose to be a professional video poker player, and I was all-in from the start. Worrying about what people thought of me if and when I were to release such information was never even close to being a part of my approach.

    You don't see me running around jumping up and down screaming like a spoiled little kid who can't get his way, because this person or that person doesn't believe me. I don't really care one way or the other. But I'm sure SOME people do, as evidenced from their prior hatred of me and the jealousy which flows thru their minds when they truly know they can't just dismiss what I've done.

    Unlike you or quite a few others here, I'm not beholden to what a community of online anonymous people think of me about anything. I've had a good working career where I built up a great reputation with friends all over the world. And you know I have a family, who have benefitted greatly from both my work and vp efforts. The fact that I chose to take up a vp career that included a successful strategy as well as success in finding an exploitable flaw in the machines, is well in-line with my lifetime of personal and professional success. Sure I've had some bumps just like you explained to me about yourself, and everyone does. Understand that laying down this play for so long by someone like me was extremely stressful because of the unknowns. I was just lucky in the way that it ended. The story of my life, really.

    Now onto why I acted so despicable on the forums over the years. I came onto the scene with an agenda to stir up controversy and to show I could win money playing differently than how the vp ap's claimed they did. Choosing the right pen name gave me instant credibility in that dept. Then Gaming Today came after me and that stroke of luck lasted nearly 8 years. The nasty battle was on, the hate was spewing on the internet, and I was loving every minute of it. But in the middle of all this the expected/unexpected happened. I found an unspeakable machine flaw that made me something called easy money. I was convinced I had the unique ability to keep it to myself as well as being able to go on with "business as usual" for the duration.

    As such, I kept up my hated forums profile, and I "adjusted" my actual VP results downward and my play reports to make them more believable in my publications and on my website. And I was able to keep this up until the play ended.

    While some of this might not be how others would have handled it, it's how I chose to. All I can say is, you'd have to have walked entirely in my shoes to know all the answers here. I know I can't prove anything now and those who hate me and don't want it to be that I made a lot of money from this play will forever continue to try and tell themselves that it's just not so. No sweat off my ass. But the fact that I chose axel and mickey to tell first was only because I recognized that not only are these two guys probably the most knowledgeable about machine gambling---I knew that if they could experience the REAL me explaining something that I did and how I did it--if they didn't immediately diss it then I achieved my goal of finally being able to share this pressurized secret hidden deep inside with my biggest critics who would listen. There was no deception in any way.

    I recently saw where Mickey said I probably know more about this play than IGT does. He's right. So in that regard, I'll make myself available for anyone who wants to question me, debate me, or learn from me on it. And I WILL find machines that have never been updated with the correct eprom.

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