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  1. #41
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I would never out an AP. Hell, I have All of Rob's personal information and including SS# and shit and don't even out him or make his life a living hell as I could.

    But I am serious. I get little support from this community. I am not talking about the hater's, the bitter old Degen gamblers like Rob and Blackhole, Alan before him. I am talking about players on multiple forums blaming me because they haven't won. And players that are supposed to be my fellow AP, always taking shots at me, because I choose to remain at the card counting level, as if I am some sort of mental midget. And NOW I am not even a real AP because I learned about card counting from books and members on forums? What the fuck is that Shit?

    For the record I learned as much as I could from many sources, books, forums, players on forums, software and my own experiences. Remember Las Vegas is my second go around. I had an earlier part of my career that didn't go great. I was basically 86ed from all my local casinos just as I started making some decent money. So I have taken all this including my own experiences and things I learned on my own from things like playing with software and formed and play a unique style that I don't think anyone else is playing, that has allowed me to play and make decent money for more than a decade in what is considered one of the sweatiest places to play. I would indeed call that self taught, not that it matters where anyone learns anything from....the important thing is to dedicate yourself to learning it. I have earned what I have and where I am and I don't appreciate anyone telling me I am not a real AP because I read stuff in book. I mean I could see that from the Hater society, but from my fellow AP's? WTF?!?

    So no Axelwolf, I am not going to out you to anyone. I am sorry I said that. It was pretty nasty. But I am pissed. Axelwolf, perhaps the most honest thing you said today was admitting that you don't like me very much. I'll give you that. That comes through loud and clear with all your little shots at me professionally and personally. WE have had this conversation in private numerous times and each time, you apologize, but the very next chance you get, same shit!

    There is a definite double standard on this forum and through out the community concerning me. For proof look no further than Mickeycrimms comment this week calling me a pedophile. When I did that to coach belly, I was warned it was against the rules. But coming at me is fair game. So you all don't have to bother lobbying Dan, I am done. I kick myself for even staying here 2 years. There is no value in the forum. It is a hateful troll forum, and that includes participants of that behavior that are fellow AP's.
    Kj, what about me? People pick on me too (even you've picked on me) but I don't let it bother me. Just keep your head up and don't let it get you down. It could be worse. You could get banned to zenzone with your buddy, Moses.

  2. #42
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Advantageplay View Post
    Just FYI, I speak to Derek and mike at the d quite often. They are on pace and we’re on pace for 1420-1460 sign ups, there was only going to be a VERY slight overlay at best and they weren’t sweating a 50k overlay nor would it be worth that much so mike really didn’t give away much
    how would one calculate the fact that someone is a better-than-average in a contest like this? I assume there has to be some dead money. Of course all the smart money is probably going to end up using all the same stale lines.
    LOL. It's the NFL, Axel. If you stick the most expert NFL spread contest player out there (and contests are quite different from betting), he might be about -200 over your average civilian. If you think differently (and I hope you do), you're wrong. Fezzik was phenomenal for two years, but then he wasn't. Nobody else really came close to doing what he did for two years, and then he bombed.

    The way you finish better-than-average in a contest like this is you organize a posse and use a team. Multiple coordinated entries. Economy of scale.

    The positive EV thing was never going to be that big a factor. There'll be a surge of late entries this week.

  3. #43
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Advantageplay View Post
    Just FYI, I speak to Derek and mike at the d quite often. They are on pace and we’re on pace for 1420-1460 sign ups, there was only going to be a VERY slight overlay at best and they weren’t sweating a 50k overlay nor would it be worth that much so mike really didn’t give away much
    how would one calculate the fact that someone is a better-than-average in a contest like this? I assume there has to be some dead money. Of course all the smart money is probably going to end up using all the same stale lines.
    LOL. It's the NFL, Axel. If you stick the most expert NFL spread contest player out there (and contests are quite different from betting), he might be about -200 over your average civilian. If you think differently (and I hope you do), you're wrong. Fezzik was phenomenal for two years, but then he wasn't. Nobody else really came close to doing what he did for two years, and then he bombed.

    The way you finish better-than-average in a contest like this is you organize a posse and use a team. Multiple coordinated entries. Economy of scale.

    The positive EV thing was never going to be that big a factor. There'll be a surge of late entries this week.
    When it comes to AP sports betting I only trust the math when presented with it, or people I know personally who consistently beat Sports and have been for years. I would never buy pics or sign up for any type of service. There's no chance of me following fezzik's picks. I ABSOLUTELY DO believe in line shopping, inconsistencies and using stale lines to your advantage.

  4. #44
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I would never out an AP. Hell, I have All of Rob's personal information and including SS# and shit and don't even out him or make his life a living hell as I could.

    But I am serious. I get little support from this community. I am not talking about the hater's, the bitter old Degen gamblers like Rob and Blackhole, Alan before him. I am talking about players on multiple forums blaming me because they haven't won. And players that are supposed to be my fellow AP, always taking shots at me, because I choose to remain at the card counting level, as if I am some sort of mental midget. And NOW I am not even a real AP because I learned about card counting from books and members on forums? What the fuck is that Shit?

    For the record I learned as much as I could from many sources, books, forums, players on forums, software and my own experiences. Remember Las Vegas is my second go around. I had an earlier part of my career that didn't go great. I was basically 86ed from all my local casinos just as I started making some decent money. So I have taken all this including my own experiences and things I learned on my own from things like playing with software and formed and play a unique style that I don't think anyone else is playing, that has allowed me to play and make decent money for more than a decade in what is considered one of the sweatiest places to play. I would indeed call that self taught, not that it matters where anyone learns anything from....the important thing is to dedicate yourself to learning it. I have earned what I have and where I am and I don't appreciate anyone telling me I am not a real AP because I read stuff in book. I mean I could see that from the Hater society, but from my fellow AP's? WTF?!?

    So no Axelwolf, I am not going to out you to anyone. I am sorry I said that. It was pretty nasty. But I am pissed. Axelwolf, perhaps the most honest thing you said today was admitting that you don't like me very much. I'll give you that. That comes through loud and clear with all your little shots at me professionally and personally. WE have had this conversation in private numerous times and each time, you apologize, but the very next chance you get, same shit!

    There is a definite double standard on this forum and through out the community concerning me. For proof look no further than Mickeycrimms comment this week calling me a pedophile. When I did that to coach belly, I was warned it was against the rules. But coming at me is fair game. So you all don't have to bother lobbying Dan, I am done. I kick myself for even staying here 2 years. There is no value in the forum. It is a hateful troll forum, and that includes participants of that behavior that are fellow AP's.
    I think you're twisting up everything I said in your head and and being overly sensitive. At no time did I ever say or implied you were not a real Advantage player(how the f*** you came up with that, I'll never know). Let me explain it again just to make sure you understand. I said, you have no right to b**** at guys like Mike putting out AP information, because, if not for them, you yourself, wouldn't be an advantage player. Smurgerburger and JB (go back and read) clearly understood what I was saying and further explained. You somehow twisted that in your head to thinking I was claiming you weren't a real Advantage player. I'm not even sure why that would infuriate you so much? I posted on pokerfraudalert a while back and someone claimed I worked for the casinos due the context of my post. I didn't even respond and wasn't even going to. Dandruff did and it worked itself out.

    I never said I don't like you very much. Again you're sensitive and twisting what I said in your head. because it's just not true. There's a big difference in saying I'm not always a KJ fan VS I don't like you very much. I'm not always a fan of yours because certain things you say and do and you're history. That doesn't mean I don't like you that just means you irk me sometimes and I state my opinion. Yes, I admit I take some shots and jabs at you sometimes,(as Nathan wood would say, TO BE FAIR, you have painted a big pink target on your back (- Do you think you're the only one I do that too? Please get over yourself on that aspect. Go over to Wizard of Vegas and take a look at some of my conversations with DarkOz. I tend to forget you often take things very seriously even if I'm just f****** with you and making a joke(You're Not Innocent on that front either). I'm sorry my Jabs are just that good The chances are, if I didn't like you and I thought very little of you I'd probably just ignore you for the most part.

    Regarding the Friendship comment, I was merely explaining your claims (that you have made multiple times) about me being a backstabber and two-faced needed to have a higher level of friendship to be warranted. Or you would have done something for me where I turned around and stab you in the back. I get what you were trying to convey but I certainly think you're using the wrong terminology making the situation sound much worse than it actually is. Were you assuming we had a high level of friendship? I certainly can't imagine you thought that was the case.(???) as a matter of fact I would almost bet I like you more than you like me even before all this b******* predating the Norm incident.

    Yes, I feel bad if what I say truly upsets you and most anyone on the forums. I'm willing to apologize and work it out if possible. If you contact me via PM and I apologize that makes sense I would apologize via PM. I guess there might be an appropriate situation where it might be better to actually contact someone personally to apologize to make it easier for both parties to Hash it out mano a mano. I have apologized a number of times publicly to people including you. So don't make it seem as if I'm only apologizing and private because I wouldn't want anybody to know I apologized or I have some sneaky agenda.

    Other than the Spirit Airlines flight attendant comment that was clearly a joke, I have absolutely nothing to apologize for regarding this thread. Feel free to explain exactly word for word what I said that was untrue, inaccurate or totally out of line?

    I highly suggest when you are totally calm that you go back and read my posts in this thread once again.

    P.S. With those types of thoughts and threats about turning in advantage players pictures and names to casinos, it would make perfect sense as to why you would never want to meet up with anybody on a forum. I mean, if you're willing to do, or even threatened that type of stuff over some silly internet crap, I can only imagine what you think others are capable of. I can only imagine what ZenKing is going to think about your comment since he thinks everybody's turning him in all the time. F***, perhaps he's right.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 08-29-2019 at 11:57 PM.

  5. #45
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You want to escalate. Fine we will escalate jackass. I'll bet the casinos will appreciate getting your name and picture. After all, you are nothing to me. We aren't friends.

    And while we are at it tell us what Mike had for breakfast since your nose is that far up his ass. And that is what everything always comes back to.
    Can't believe you said this KJ. In my book, intentionally outing another AP especially one who makes his living from AP activities is a mortal sin.

  6. #46
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Stating that 90% of homesexuals are pedophiles is different than calling someone a pedophile.
    I thought that was really Bad and even said so. I was hoping to lighten up the mood and posted something I thought was funny.

  7. #47
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Stating that 90% of homesexuals are pedophiles is different than calling someone a pedophile.
    I thought that was really Bad and even said so. I was hoping to lighten up the mood and posted something I thought was funny.
    Let me say that I apologize profusely for my comment that 90% of gays are pedophiles. The figure is actually closer to 95%.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #48
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Stating that 90% of homesexuals are pedophiles is different than calling someone a pedophile.
    I thought that was really Bad and even said so. I was hoping to lighten up the mood and posted something I thought was funny.
    Let me say that I apologize profusely for my comment that 90% of gays are pedophiles. The figure is actually closer to 95%.
    YOU SERIOUSLY NEED TO STOP IT!

    Because I can't stop laughing.

  9. #49
    Kew's leaving again?

    I thought that picture of all the priests making eyes at that little boy was the funniest ever posted on this forum. We're currently in the middle of watching all seasons of Ray Donovan, which helped me appreciate that posting even more.

  10. #50
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Kew's leaving again?

    I thought that picture of all the priests making eyes at that little boy was the funniest ever posted on this forum. We're currently in the middle of watching all seasons of Ray Donovan, which helped me appreciate that posting even more.
    Ray Donovan is an awesome show! What a talented actor Liev Schriber (SP?) is

  11. #51
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Kew's leaving again?

    I thought that picture of all the priests making eyes at that little boy was the funniest ever posted on this forum. We're currently in the middle of watching all seasons of Ray Donovan, which helped me appreciate that posting even more.
    Ray Donovan is an awesome show! What a talented actor Liev Schriber (SP?) is
    He certainly is.

    Kew is a talented bser. He's shown time and again that he just doesn't have the discipline or fortitude to be able to do what he says when it comes to "blaming Dan" and quitting the forum. He's so disgustingly weak that it's even embarrassing to the most hardened of life's true gamers. In fact, there's ZERO doubt the little twit isn't right now nervously and neurotically zooming into this forum looking to torture himself at least one more time. Just another list of examples why his internet tale of being some kind of "successful bj pro" is nothing more than how he configured his online fantasy.

    RIP kew....until you CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!

  12. #52
    I have a feeling most of whatever little spirit this site actually had left has now been crushed.

  13. #53
    KewlJ, I was shocked at what you said but at least you acknowledged that it was nasty and implied that you felt remorse for saying it, so there's a silver lining and saving grace there. Another well known Poster admitted he says nasty and shocking things when he is angry for a few minutes and then after he calms down feels shocked and huge remorse when he realizes the horrible things he said during his few minutes of Anger.

  14. #54
    Well, since this forum's obviously had it, I'll clear up one big point I've seen made here about pedophiles before we close down.

    First, queers are not "born" with their disease--they make it their choice from interactions with others either at an early age or in their teenage years. These people find it difficult and unnerving to interact with the opposite sex, so they turn to the easy route and hook up with equally weak individuals without the pressure associated with acting properly enuf to "impress" the opposite sex. And that weakness stays with them for their lifetimes. Over time, these crossed-wire freaks find it easier to be able to talk with other women, who instantly feel at-ease conversing with "men" who aren't trying to get into their pants. See Martha Stewart for one glaring example.

    As they begin to build confidence flirting with and talking to members of their own sex (via that disgusting fairy-voiced lithp they so desperately practice) along the way they discover that their only real power in life is over little boys, whom they can easily control when they can't influence others at any level. Not all, but MOST homos become pedophiles. And this is why they are targeted for continuous deserved beatings in prisons everywhere. And regardless of how many of the new TV shows and movies try to push their gay agenda on the normal population because of the sickness permeating throughout the media industry, nothing will change any of these facts.

    I hope that clears things up.
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 08-31-2019 at 02:34 PM.

  15. #55
    Rob is literally so fucking stupid he doesn't realize pedophiles go after prepubescent girls too.

    I bet Tasha knew that.

  16. #56
    Rob, why are you so insecure with yourself? You are always looking for admiration, and acceptance from others why is that? What a poor excuse of a man you are.

  17. #57
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Rob is literally so fucking stupid he doesn't realize pedophiles go after prepubescent girls too.

    I bet Tasha knew that.
    Not the queer ones.

    Wise up dopey.

  18. #58
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Rob, why are you so insecure with yourself? You are always looking for admiration, and acceptance from others why is that? What a poor excuse of a man you are.
    I've gotta empathize with Rob on this one. I have also said things because I was trying to get praise, admiration, and fit in. I even began picking on a fellow outcast under one of my Accounts on another website hinking I was going to be part of the cool clique for doing so. I soon got a thread from a Member from the Cool Clique with my name on it and was excited. I thought this was going to be my "Welcome To The Cool Clique," welcome. When I clicked on it, it was anything but.

    The Cool Clique Member posted something like,"Karice, you're an Idiot. Welcome to My Ignore List." Sure I got a Welcome, but ut wasn't the kind of "Welcome," I wanted or was expecting. The Cool Clique Posters were like,"Karice turned on the guy too? Man she is desperate to fit in. She reminds me of the 14 year old Geeky Freshman girl trying to hang out with the 17 year okd Cheerleaders." Needless to say, I did not fit in with the Cool Clique and I showed that part of the website I was willing to turn on fellow outcasts for a chance to fit in with the Cool Clique. I apologized to the Fellow Outcast when it became clear that I would not be fitting in with the Cool Clique. It was incredibly mature on his part that he forgave my turning on him. So I know where Rob is coming from.

  19. #59
    Except that the accusation is from a dunce. And a rather jealous one at that.

  20. #60
    I'll borrow from The Masters.

    Simply titled

    The Classic



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