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  1. #141
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    No, I don't miss drinking. Haven't had even one drink since I said I'm through. Don't have any desire to drink. I've been around the booze since sober day number 1. The machines in Montana are in the bars. And the casinos out of state all have liquor. Doesn't bother me. As I've said before I don't miss the hangovers. When I was drinking I was always somewhere between being drunk and drying out for a few days. That wreaked havoc on my sleeping pattern. It was tough to sleep when drying out. I don't have that problem anymore. I go right to sleep.
    Mickey you are kind of like a real life Sam Malone. Remember that old show Cheers from like the 80's or 90's? Woody Harrelson was a young pup in it and he is like mid 50's now, so maybe 30 years ago? So anyway Sam Malone, a retired athlete and recovering alcoholic owns and runs a bar. I think that was supposed to show how almost impossible that would be.

    I am not a big drinker. A few beers here and there especially watching football, but I had orthroscopic surgery on my elbow early this morning (volleyball injury) and it hurts like hell. I am ready for a couple swigs of something strong.

    Seriously though, continued success. You should be proud.

  2. #142
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    No, I don't miss drinking. Haven't had even one drink since I said I'm through. Don't have any desire to drink. I've been around the booze since sober day number 1. The machines in Montana are in the bars. And the casinos out of state all have liquor. Doesn't bother me. As I've said before I don't miss the hangovers. When I was drinking I was always somewhere between being drunk and drying out for a few days. That wreaked havoc on my sleeping pattern. It was tough to sleep when drying out. I don't have that problem anymore. I go right to sleep.
    Mickey you are kind of like a real life Sam Malone. Remember that old show Cheers from like the 80's or 90's? Woody Harrelson was a young pup in it and he is like mid 50's now, so maybe 30 years ago? So anyway Sam Malone, a retired athlete and recovering alcoholic owns and runs a bar. I think that was supposed to show how almost impossible that would be.

    I am not a big drinker. A few beers here and there especially watching football, but I had orthroscopic surgery on my elbow early this morning (volleyball injury) and it hurts like hell. I am ready for a couple swigs of something strong.

    Seriously though, continued success. You should be proud.
    I back up what you said about Mickey. Congratulations, Mickey! And KewlJ, I hope you feel better about your elbow!

  3. #143
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    And KewlJ, I hope you feel better about your elbow!
    I will be back to perfection in about 3 days. What was that other old show? We can rebuild him. Stronger! Faster!

    Maybe I can resume MY baseball career from high school. Or maybe not.

    Edit: had to look it up. It was Bionic Man. Remember the guy would be like running in slow motion and that somehow was supposed to mean he was going fast.

  4. #144
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    And KewlJ, I hope you feel better about your elbow!
    I will be back to perfection in about 3 days. What was that other old show? We can rebuild him. Stronger! Faster!

    Maybe I can resume MY baseball career from high school. Or maybe not.

    Edit: had to look it up. It was Bionic Man. Remember the guy would be like running in slow motion and that somehow was supposed to mean he was going fast.
    That was the Six Million Dollar Man(Bionic Man) that said,"We can rebuild him. Stronger! Faster! Aah, the late 60's/70's TV Dramas/Adventures. :. Good times even though I wasn't born yet and even my MOTHER was literally a kid then... My own edit. This is REALLY weird considering when I first saw your quote you were asking what show said,"We can rebuild him. Stronger! Faster!" And when I clicked quote to answer you had already edited your post to say Bionic Man and I had answered Six Million Dollar Man(Bionic Man) without realizing that you had said Bionic Man.
    Last edited by Tasha; 09-04-2019 at 12:12 AM.

  5. #145
    I wasn't born yet either, but still see some of these shows on one of the old cable stations that runs shows from 70's/80's. I have been watching Mash and Green Acres lately. Green Acres is a little TOO silly but I like Mash a lot.

  6. #146
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    That was the Six Million Dollar Man(Bionic Man) that said,"We can rebuild him. Stronger! Faster! Aah, the late 60's/70's TV Dramas/Adventures. :. Good times even though I wasn't born yet and even my MOTHER was literally a kid then... My own edit. This is REALLY weird considering when I first saw your quote you were asking what show said,"We can rebuild him. Stronger! Faster!" And when I clicked quote to answer you had already edited your post to say Bionic Man and I had answered Six Million Dollar Man(Bionic Man) without realizing that you had said Bionic Man.
    You are right. The show was six million dollar man. when I looked it up I saw a subtitle that said bionic man.

    Anyway, your math isn't adding up to me. IMB says the show was from 1974-1978. You say your mother was a kid then. But I have heard you say you are in your mid 30 or something? That would make your mother somewhere between 6 and 10 when you were born.

    ahh, is one of us confused about which personality account you are talking about? Maybe Nathan or one of the other's is younger?

  7. #147
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I wasn't born yet either, but still see some of these shows on one of the old cable stations that runs shows from 70's/80's. I have been watching Mash and Green Acres lately. Green Acres is a little TOO silly but I like Mash a lot.
    The Oldies but Goodies TV shows were really something special. Like The Original Twilight Zone show from circa 1959-1965 was really good. One episode in like 1962 kind of predicted the future. Rod Serling had an episode that was set in the future ,2000. In 2000 everyone over 18 was forced to get plastic surgery to look like one of 5 set pictures(In reality one Actor played like 5 different people and an Actress played both her character and her best friend after the transformation). The main character fought so hard to remain her original self but she was forced to get the plastic surgery against her will and ended up looking exactly like her best friend and cheerfully gushed about how "Happy," she was. It was a creepy episode but cut to 2019 and a lot of people today really don't have that much individuality today and seem like just replicas of other people just like in that creepy Twilight Zone episode.

  8. #148
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    That was the Six Million Dollar Man(Bionic Man) that said,"We can rebuild him. Stronger! Faster! Aah, the late 60's/70's TV Dramas/Adventures. :. Good times even though I wasn't born yet and even my MOTHER was literally a kid then... My own edit. This is REALLY weird considering when I first saw your quote you were asking what show said,"We can rebuild him. Stronger! Faster!" And when I clicked quote to answer you had already edited your post to say Bionic Man and I had answered Six Million Dollar Man(Bionic Man) without realizing that you had said Bionic Man.
    You are right. The show was six million dollar man. when I looked it up I saw a subtitle that said bionic man.

    Anyway, your math isn't adding up to me. IMB says the show was from 1974-1978. You say your mother was a kid then. But I have heard you say you are in your mid 30 or something? That would make your mother somewhere between 6 and 10 when you were born.

    ahh, is one of us confused about which personality account you are talking about? Maybe Nathan or one of the other's is younger?
    My Mother was born in 1967, so she was 7-11 during Six Million Dollar Man. I was born in 1984. She gave birth to me at 17.

  9. #149
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post

    My Mother was born in 1967, so she was 7-11 during Six Million Dollar Man. I was born in 1984. She gave birth to me at 17.
    yeah that's right. You said she was a kid then not born then.

    I have trouble relating to the 60's. The person I was married to was born in early 60's. Someone born in the 60's is roughly 20 years older than me depending on when in the 60's. BUT it seems like ages to me. It seems like an entirely different time. It seems like the 80's and 90's were still modern but I think of the 60's and I think of it like a black and white TV show and think of people dressing like men in black. Football players with leather helmets. I sort of think of cars from an even older era, like 1930's or something. I don't know I just can't seem to grasp the 60's. Woodstock I guess.

    wait here's an example. Footage of John F kennedy (60's) seems like a million years ago, but footage of Reagan or Father Bush (80's) still seems modern.

    I am thinking I might be overmedicated. I am going to bed.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 09-04-2019 at 01:12 AM.

  10. #150
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Despite Mickeycrimms constant barrage of homophobic hate attacks at me, I too offer my congratulation on 30 months sober. Now that is quite an accomplishment! Far surpasses any claim I have seen on this forum, including my own.

    So in all sincerely Mickey? Do you miss it? any brief falling off the wagon? any desire? Since by your AP posts, you detailed many places you play are sort of like bar places....any temptation with that?

    Continued success with this endeavor.
    No, I don't miss drinking. Haven't had even one drink since I said I'm through. Don't have any desire to drink. I've been around the booze since sober day number 1. The machines in Montana are in the bars. And the casinos out of state all have liquor. Doesn't bother me. As I've said before I don't miss the hangovers. When I was drinking I was always somewhere between being drunk and drying out for a few days. That wreaked havoc on my sleeping pattern. It was tough to sleep when drying out. I don't have that problem anymore. I go right to sleep.
    It is pretty nice to have no desire for your one time addictions. I used to drink everyday but I never was a hair of the dog type. I used to get pretty loaded and just feel dried out, but I seemed functional. I don't know how much of it is age and how much is just learning. At some point it becomes obvious that getting loaded on booze isn't worth the complete shit next day. You sorta gotta be frank with yourself as to what you get out of being drunk vs what you miss out the next day. This is especially true if you don't have a job to go to and force yourself through whatever. I haven't given up booze, but it used to be that every bar called to me as I'd drive by. I knew all the bars and a few bartenders all too well. Then at some point I just sorta ask myself why? It just isn't worth it - especially given odds of a DWI. I no longer close bars out, drinking as much as I can.. the desire really has left me, but it isn't hard for someone to cajole me into drinking with them. I really can't imginen drinking hard until 60ish. I've never been a wake up and drink person. Somehow hangovers never gave me any desire to drink so I never tried to be a proper alcoholic as I always dried out for the day. It was weird though, my whole brain was wired differently. I loved straight chilled vodka martinis. My tolerance for drinking shots and stuff now just makes me shudder. The attachment to the bars as I'd drive by. Really though it all sort of just stopped when I was honest with myself how nasty the hangovers are vs getting loaded. I wonder if I really was ever an alcoholic. Sure some of my extended family said so but lols. I also quit drinking because I took up doing a lot of stupid dangerous stuff and fucked myself up so bad I needed an operation and other issues. Multiple episodes of legitimate broken bones. lol drunk lol. Good times.

    Does Mr Crimm ever go into what led up to his quitting booze? Mother of all hangovers? Something bad? Story not told?

  11. #151
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    AxelWolf wrote:

    The worsts you can claim about me is that I'm forum trolling asshole and a jerk at that, but at least I'm not a possible rat.


    You can't say that you are not a possible rat when coming from an equal perspective "point of view" that KJ has gone through for a really long time now. That is a big difference which possibly no members could compare with that type of treatment. Fact KJ did not out you and had no intention of doing so. How do you think you would react while constantly being attacked from all sides?
    if I was taking it from all sides(there's a missed opportunity for a gay joke if I ever seen one). I would look in the mirror and ask myself why are all these people against me what the f*** is it about me and what am I doing wrong. Then I would take a long f****** break and either change what I'm doing or walk away if I couldn't contain myself.





    You have absolutely no idea if KJ outed anybody or not(unless you guys are the same people). One might ask themselves if KJ is capable of doing such a thing. Well let's all take a look at some things for a before anyone makes their decision...

    1)He's been willing to expose people's private messages when he gets angry I think he's losing some ground(something he himself said was a big No-No).
    2)He's went to Extreme Measures to fake his own death....just think about that for a moment. People in the community have their suspicions if that was even true. You would think if participating on gambling forum cause you to get robbed I almost killed you might be a little cautious going forward and avoid battles and making threats to everyone.
    3)He's gotten the FBI involved in his internet Forum bullshit.
    4)He's engaged in physical threats with others.
    5)He's went out of his way to research Rob singer's real name and social security number through a paid Network find information out about him and then expose it(Let that sink in a little bit).
    6)He went out of his way to find the Wizards address and send him shit.
    6)He threatened to never Let It Go with the wizard and basically said he would do anything to tarnish his name and reputation until the day he dies. And to this day he tries to tarnish Mike's name any chance he gets while spending time reading WOV just so he could pull out bits and pieces to discredit him. Go read gambling forums, if you haven't already, and see all the nasty things he said to me and anyone who dare not agree with his views about Mike including other members of that forum and all the craziness he exposed about himself.
    7)He's made multiple sock puppets in order to return to a form that he's not wanted on.
    8)Apparently he spent money just so he could write a book motivated by tarnishing Mike's name or some other b******* like that whatever the case he actually spent money on his stupid Vendetta over f****** internet forum ban.
    9) let's not forget all the b******* with with Norm and all the other people involved in all that b*******
    And that's only the stuff I can remember or know about, no doubt we could go back and find other crazy concerning things he's said.

    I'm not going to quote the post that led up to this since This shit is getting too long. Start from the beginning of the thread, read it, and then please someone explain to me what terrible thing I said to KJ.
    Read his words very very carefully. For some reason he thinks I'm the one escalating it when in fact he's escalating it by continually calling me a backstabber and other b*******.

    I just noticed this little gem..
    KJ SAID, "One anonymous email told me to watch my back because he/she would shoot me if they find me. (probably you)." I categorically deny having sent any anonymous email to him or knowing who did, or having anything to do with that situation whatsoever. I can almost guarantee you at whatever time that was sent one can link it to some battle he was having with someone else. As far as I'm concerned... him saying that it was probably me, is some pretty slanderous shit right there. I'm willing to give someone access my computer's emails and other information needed to prove that's absolutely not true. There's zero chance KJ did not save that email. I'm fairly sure he can post up or send that email to someone who can track it back to a specific IP address or something like that. Let me guess he's not willing to do that or he no longer has the email.

    And yet, he's all upset I called him a possible rat... when in fact, he said he was going to be a rat and then followed it up again in another post. KJ is one of the most hypocritical motherfukers in the world.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    You want to escalate. Fine we will escalate jackass. I'll bet the casinos will appreciate getting your name and picture. After all, you are nothing to me. We aren't friends.

    And while we are at it tell us what Mike had for breakfast since your nose is that far up his ass. And that is what everything always comes back to.
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Fuck off Axel. AP community? What the fuck do I care about the AP community? I did. But no more. No one in the AP community has supported me. Well maybe BoSox. He has been a good friend. I also consider a couple other guys that don't participate here or at WoV friends. But I have gotten little support from anyone else in this "community". Everyone is out for themselves, so I can play that game. And I will.

    So let that be the answer to who KJ really is: I treat people with respect until they disrespect me. Then I give it back.

    And don't answer this. We are done. But I am pretty sure you will be thinking about me in the near future. Something along the lines of "that mother fucker".
    After all that you expect anyone to believe he isn't capable and wouldn't do that? This is more than just him being dramatic.Even just having those types of thought in your head should be very concerning to anyone that knows or deals with him in any fashion.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 09-04-2019 at 03:37 AM.

  12. #152
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    That was the Six Million Dollar Man(Bionic Man) that said,"We can rebuild him. Stronger! Faster! Aah, the late 60's/70's TV Dramas/Adventures. :. Good times even though I wasn't born yet and even my MOTHER was literally a kid then... My own edit. This is REALLY weird considering when I first saw your quote you were asking what show said,"We can rebuild him. Stronger! Faster!" And when I clicked quote to answer you had already edited your post to say Bionic Man and I had answered Six Million Dollar Man(Bionic Man) without realizing that you had said Bionic Man.
    You are right. The show was six million dollar man. when I looked it up I saw a subtitle that said bionic man.

    Anyway, your math isn't adding up to me. IMB says the show was from 1974-1978. You say your mother was a kid then. But I have heard you say you are in your mid 30 or something? That would make your mother somewhere between 6 and 10 when you were born.

    ahh, is one of us confused about which personality account you are talking about? Maybe Nathan or one of the other's is younger?
    My Mother was born in 1967, so she was 7-11 during Six Million Dollar Man. I was born in 1984. She gave birth to me at 17.
    Tasha, I appreciate and respect the fact that you gave your opinion on this matter. I'm sorry to say, I really don't think you understand the gravity of what was said. And, as you and all of us know, you are a terrible judge of character among other things. I'm not trying to be mean, but I don't know how else to say it because that's the information we have about you. So can you please do me a big favor and stop posting nonsense in this thread, it's very serious situation. I would be happy to engage conversation with you in a different thread even if it's regarding this.

  13. #153
    AxelWolf wrote:

    I would look in the mirror and ask myself why are all these people against me what the f*** is it about me and what am I doing wrong.


    Axel, that one line above quote is a very accurate point of view, although, does need further clarification which I would like to try to briefly opine on. In my opinion, KJ was in fact very wrong in writing too much personal history about his private life on the internet boards. Starting with him writing about a SUCCESSFULL career playing full time blackjack with a small part playing video poker which included actual annual figures for a decade and a half. On a side note KJ helped too many to mention beginning players who were apprecitave on actual blackjack boards. He was well accepted and started opening up more and more about his personel life which to a fact was NOT a problem on those boards. Needless to say he made a real BIG mistake thinking he would also be well accepted here as well. Suffice it to say there is a lot of jealousy and hate in this world and for these reasons alone talking about your private life on internet boards is asking for trouble, regardless if you are in the right or not. So yes Axel KJ should look in the mirror for answers.
    Last edited by BoSox; 09-04-2019 at 05:32 AM.

  14. #154
    That was a devastating post about how truly twisted the kew mind really is. How long before the psycho turns on his new-found bff Tasha?

  15. #155
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    That was a devastating post about how truly twisted the kew mind really is. How long before the psycho turns on his new-found bff Tasha?

    I don't think that KewlJ is a psycho, just hurt. And he has apologized for nasty things he has said. There is a big difference between someone who writes nasty tgings and doesn't show any remorse and gives no apologies and someone who writes nasty things and then shows remorse and apologizes.

  16. #156
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I wasn't born yet either, but still see some of these shows on one of the old cable stations that runs shows from 70's/80's. I have been watching Mash and Green Acres lately. Green Acres is a little TOO silly but I like Mash a lot.
    The Oldies but Goodies TV shows were really something special. Like The Original Twilight Zone show from circa 1959-1965 was really good. One episode in like 1962 kind of predicted the future. Rod Serling had an episode that was set in the future ,2000. In 2000 everyone over 18 was forced to get plastic surgery to look like one of 5 set pictures(In reality one Actor played like 5 different people and an Actress played both her character and her best friend after the transformation). The main character fought so hard to remain her original self but she was forced to get the plastic surgery against her will and ended up looking exactly like her best friend and cheerfully gushed about how "Happy," she was. It was a creepy episode but cut to 2019 and a lot of people today really don't have that much individuality today and seem like just replicas of other people just like in that creepy Twilight Zone episode.
    The Twilight Zone continues, circa de 2019!

  17. #157
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I wasn't born yet either, but still see some of these shows on one of the old cable stations that runs shows from 70's/80's. I have been watching Mash and Green Acres lately. Green Acres is a little TOO silly but I like Mash a lot.
    The Oldies but Goodies TV shows were really something special. Like The Original Twilight Zone show from circa 1959-1965 was really good. One episode in like 1962 kind of predicted the future. Rod Serling had an episode that was set in the future ,2000. In 2000 everyone over 18 was forced to get plastic surgery to look like one of 5 set pictures(In reality one Actor played like 5 different people and an Actress played both her character and her best friend after the transformation). The main character fought so hard to remain her original self but she was forced to get the plastic surgery against her will and ended up looking exactly like her best friend and cheerfully gushed about how "Happy," she was. It was a creepy episode but cut to 2019 and a lot of people today really don't have that much individuality today and seem like just replicas of other people just like in that creepy Twilight Zone episode.
    The Twilight Zone continues, circa de 2019!
    I was talking about the ORIGINAL Twilight Zone which aired circa 1959-1965. Even back then they kind of predicted in the future a lot of people will lose their identity and look like many other people. Cut to 2019 and see how so many people just look like other people and even do it willingly. Look at how many people get plastic surgery to look like popular Celebrities. In fact there was a TV Show called I want to look like a Celebrity where people were so obsessed with wanting to look like Celebrities they begged plastic surgeons to give them plastic surgery to look like them. The Plastic Surgeons wisely turned down their outlandish requests knowing that in the near future or distant future there was a possibility that the potential Client would out live their obsession with said Celebrity and that would in theory cause big problems wgen in say two years the Client no longer is interested in looking like say Tom Brady but still looks like Tom Brady due to the plastic Tom Brady surgery and wants their original face back. Uh oh.

  18. #158
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    but given your history (like with Wizard, threatening to say bad things about him for the rest of your life,
    I can't argue with some, maybe most of what you said RS_. We have been on different forums for a long time. I know that is not a substitute for personally knowing someone, but I am a little disappointed you don't feel you know me enough to know I would never do that. You are also pretty familiar with Axelwolf so you should know that he pushes and pushes people....pushes buttons. Sometimes it is hard to see during, but go back and read afterwards and it is pretty clear he is trying to get under someone's skin and takes pleasure when they are pushed too far.

    Now I am going to specifically disagree with this line quoted. I didn't say I would say bad things about Mike. I said, "I would continue to remind people of how this played out for the rest of my life". Since when did the truth become a bad thing?

    also context is very important. I don't feel like going back and finding the exact quote but Mike said something about if he allowed me back, Norm would continue to bitch about it. So I was simply saying yeah well I am going to continue to bitch about it too.
    I mean, I don't really know you, though. It's not like we talk all the time or hangout n stuff. Given your history of drama and all this shit (read Axel's suspiciously coherent post above), I really don't know. Sure, ya got fucked on some of the drama stuff, but you like to escalate escalate escalate things above and beyond what's "normal". You flipped out on Axel for....God himself doesn't even know why. And you've flipped out on others because you thought they were attacking you when they weren't (and I'm not talking about the gay stuff). Then you're having thoughts of outing an AP, which is ludicrous in it of itself, but then decide to WRITE IT on a forum. I think if it wasn't for several people saying how fucked up that was to write/think, you would have pushed it and kept going with it. That's pretty disconcerting.

    Axel calls OnceDear the worst moderator of all time. He calls PokerGrinder a pedophile in like every other post. He doesn't give a shit if you're gay straight chinese or italian (okay, maybe italian).
    #FreeTyde

  19. #159
    I'm going to put in my two cents. I don't know how old Axelwolf is, but somebody's coming across like he's lived a sheltered life. This is all tempest in a teapot nonsense. And if "Singer" weren't in an anti-KJ corner, he'd be harping on what a "snowflake" Axel sounds like.

    KJ didn't do anything. Period. If and when he does something, then he's done something. KJ went, "Nyahh, nyaahhh, you're gonna be exposed." Axel portrays this as some big deal threat to the universe. Goddamn, Axel, I have some brilliant advice for you. That advice is based on the fact that sports handicappers have been stealing and exposing each other's plays for gazillions of years. The only thing that keeps me out of the circle jerk is that I'm an anomaly -- I use very few "set plays." So nobody can steal anything from me, or expose my livelihood to the casino bad guys, or hurt me. But the best people in the business have had their best plays exposed, their client lists stolen, their run-ins with the law or whatever publicized. Mike Lee, one of the finest handicappers of all time, entered into partnerships with people who ripped off everything from his style to his plays to his clients. People try to data mine your plays and profile every handicapper who wins -- they are trying to destroy you every blessed day of every year.

    So here's my brilliant advice to naïve snowflakes:

    If somebody has the ability to shut you down, expose you, and hurt you, you may want to consider treating them with formality and a modicum of respect. Now if I thought KJ was actually going to expose you, Axel -- and I do not -- the problem is mainly of your making. If you know people who'd have no qualms about putting you in the ground if you disrespect them, and reality forces you to interact with them regularly (and yes, I have dealings with those kinds of people and have for 40 years), then guess what? Don't be a flippant horse's ass in their company.

    Now I realize this is just genius advice. But I figure I'd pass it along.

    I don't know how standard APs operate, but until somebody does something, they haven't done something. If KJ wanted to out you or anybody, all he'd have to do his have a friend or brother do it. Or hell, me. I'd do it, sufficiently motivated.

    I find your post such a flagrant attempt to squash KJ, who hasn't done anything, that it's ridiculous. I don't even understand your logic. If you get KJ banned here, based on his threat to out you, then why wouldn't he out you? You must want to be outed, or being outed isn't a big deal. I mean, that's the logical outcome, right?

    Unless, of course, you know KJ wouldn't do that?

    So which is it?

    As for some other things on your list of KJ's psycho moments:

    1) People look up other people's info all the time, usually with more detail than what KJ does. My brother-in-law was the biggest PI in New Mexico. If I wanted to know anything about anybody on this forum, odds are, I'd be able to do it. I haven't bothered. If you have an email address of someone, you're about 50/50 to being able to track down their name and residence. Here's a hint: KJ has money. He could just buy the forum if he wanted to screw with people. Big revelation.

    2) If somebody's screws with you, reminding them you're going to screw with them in perpetuity is SOP. What, you're supposed to play nice? Why? Shackleford, in my opinion, based on what I've read, deserves any grief he gets from KJ.


    I've said this before, but I'm not sure I'd last 72 hours as KJ's roommate unless he were mute or I could slap him in the face once every 12 minutes. But that doesn't make him an evil anti-AP psycho. I don't know why you guys are playing drama queens aimed at the resident drama queen, but grow up and get real.

    And my advice: if somebody has the ability to squash you, or the inclination to bury you and yours, you may want to inject some formality into your interactions. Or cease the interactions on a friendly note.

  20. #160
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    1)He's been willing to expose people's private messages when he gets angry I think he's losing some ground(something he himself said was a big No-No).
    2)He's went to Extreme Measures to fake his own death....just think about that for a moment. People in the community have their suspicions if that was even true. You would think if participating on gambling forum cause you to get robbed I almost killed you might be a little cautious going forward and avoid battles and making threats to everyone.
    3)He's gotten the FBI involved in his internet Forum bullshit.
    4)He's engaged in physical threats with others.
    5)He's went out of his way to research Rob singer's real name and social security number through a paid Network find information out about him and then expose it(Let that sink in a little bit).
    6)He went out of his way to find the Wizards address and send him shit.
    6)He threatened to never Let It Go with the wizard and basically said he would do anything to tarnish his name and reputation until the day he dies. And to this day he tries to tarnish Mike's name any chance he gets while spending time reading WOV just so he could pull out bits and pieces to discredit him. Go read gambling forums, if you haven't already, and see all the nasty things he said to me and anyone who dare not agree with his views about Mike including other members of that forum and all the craziness he exposed about himself.
    7)He's made multiple sock puppets in order to return to a form that he's not wanted on.
    8)Apparently he spent money just so he could write a book motivated by tarnishing Mike's name or some other b******* like that whatever the case he actually spent money on his stupid Vendetta over f****** internet forum ban.
    9) let's not forget all the b******* with with Norm and all the other people involved in all that b*******
    And that's only the stuff I can remember or know about, no doubt we could go back and find other crazy concerning things he's said.
    There is a lot of Hate in that post. But there is a lot of disguised hate/comments in most of what you say and write. That is why I have always felt you two-faced. Perhaps a better term is dishonest. I addressed some of these things in the last day, like that I have had no contact with the FBI....you are reading that from Moses, and yet you come right back and repeat it. The same can be said for several other points like fake death. I have corrected for years and you still post what you want. You know who used to do that all the time....Alan M. He used to say something. you correct him with something that he doesn't want to hear and he would pretend he didn't hear it and just make his same claim all over again. And it is dishonest. You are now in the company of shyster greatness.

    But I do see something revealing about your post. Every single thing that you just said, occurred before that short PM from you two days ago. "I'm willing to forgive and forget". This doesn't look like a person willing to forgive and forget. This looks like a person with an agenda to discredit / tarnish. Which is what I have always felt and said about you. That sir....is the definition of "two-faced". You say one thing privately "forgive and forget" and then try your damned to tarnish someone publicly. That is two faced and THAT is dishonest.

    I actually bought your 2 faced agenda for a while. You know telling me something, while you said and did the complete opposite. You know when I figured it out for good? When you announced that I was gay here after my first post. THAT was no accident, that was an attempt open me to attacks from day 1. And you succeeded didn't you?

    Let's cut to what this is really all about and has been from day 1 with you. Michael Shackleford. I dared say anything negative about Mike and you come after me. He should be called out for it. Mike WAS WRONG. And it continues to be wrong to this day. Hey sometimes the emperor needs to hear that he has no cloths on. And you no what the really saddest part is? Mike knows he was wrong. He said so himself, long before Norm absolutely proved that he used Mike by disappearing. I just have a really hard time when someone knows they were wrong and that it hurt someone and isn't man enough to fix it. And that is exactly what this has all been about. A guy so insecure that he can't say, yeah I was wrong and fix what he did wrong. I mean you....YOU yourself, once told me to stop saying that Norm played or manipulated Mike because Mike couldn't deal with that perception. And THAT is exactly what this is about now.


    Here is my analogy. Guy gets convicted of a crime he didn't commit. Let's say he spends 1280 some days (<-lol) in prison. New evidence, maybe DNA or a video proves someone else committed the crime. (this would be Norms disappearance proving his intent). All that remains is for the judge to order a new trial. But the judge doesn't want to admit that he made a mistake....isn't man enough to admit that he made a mistake. Is too insecure to admit he made a mistake.

    Well you know what the Judge made a mistake! And as long as I am still sitting in jail, I am going to keep reminding him that he made a mistake, just as I promised...not threatened, 4 years ago. And I am sorry if you are unhappy with that and feel the need to dishonestly go after me trying to protect your friend.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 09-04-2019 at 08:13 AM.

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