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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So what? Without Henry Ford (and others) we would all be walking. So what?
    You're blaming Shack for the same shit Thorp did.

  2. #22
    Shackleford has numerous times outed an advantage play, ruining it for players that were playing it. And while I have done so myself a couple times, mine were obviously by accident. Shacklefords are always on purpose because he usually says he knows it will upset (and hurt) some AP's. THAT is what we are talking about.

  3. #23
    You have no idea if it will be an advantage play or not until betting is closed. And that doesn't matter if he posted about it or not.

  4. #24

  5. #25
    kewlJ without all those guys outing Advantage Plays like card counting you would be stuck being a glorified cocktail waitress on Spirit Airlines. You owe guys like Michael Shackelford your career(I didn't say him specifically). They outed and wrote about Advantage play. I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand. Hey, you're not the only one. I see it time and time again, someone finds her way to the wizard of Vegas or GWAE, Dancers Book etc are very thankful to them and their resources for opening their eyes. Once they actually realize that information is now affecting them and their pocketbook they want everybody to shut up about it and they will even criticize people for sharing too much information. That's exactly what you were doing.

    But that's just the way it works.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Mike even did some math or exposed something on a few table games or promotions you've played in the past?

  6. #26
    No Fuck you Axelwolf! remember when I mentioned the Lucky Dragon promo, 100% by accident. I didn't even know it was an AP play. I was wondering why I got an email for a drawing for a casino had been closed for months. Do you remember that? Well, go back and read what you wrote to me. You were pissed. You reamed me a new ass (and don't you dare make a homophobic Joke you flaming homophobic asshole).

    Do you remember when I posted about the shuffle machine at El Cortez? I posted because I wanted players, AP's and non-AP's to be aware that this casino was cheating. I didn't know some AP's were able to take advantage of that. Do you know the hate mail I got from AP's. One anonymous email told me to watch my back because he/she would shoot me if they find me. (probably you).

    So I accidentally out an AP play and I am a villain. Mike shackleford purposely dose it. He is proud of it. He makes a joke that AP's are going to be mad. He is taking money out of players pockets when he does so, but gee, it's your buddy good 'old Mike and he is just being a good guy educating everyone.

    I am tired of the double standard. Everything is a double standard and everything is pissing contest with you insecure AP's with big egos. You got to prove you are better than the next guy. You know what that is....it's the Neapolitan Complex.

    Every fucking thing is about trying to discredit me. From the Haters that use to control this site and now from my fellow AP's. I am not a real AP because I read stuff in a book. What the fuck! Abe Lincoln learned everything by reading books. That is how most people learn things.

    I have tried really hard to be civil to you Axelwolf, but you just take shots at me and try to discredit me every chance you get. At least people like Singer and Moses are up front with their hate. You are a two-faced bitch.

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    ....it's the Neapolitan Complex.
    Now you've made me hungry for some ice cream.

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    No Fuck you Axelwolf! remember when I mentioned the Lucky Dragon promo, 100% by accident. I didn't even know it was an AP play. I was wondering why I got an email for a drawing for a casino had been closed for months. Do you remember that? Well, go back and read what you wrote to me. You were pissed. You reamed me a new ass (and don't you dare make a homophobic Joke you flaming homophobic asshole).

    Do you remember when I posted about the shuffle machine at El Cortez? I posted because I wanted players, AP's and non-AP's to be aware that this casino was cheating. I didn't know some AP's were able to take advantage of that. Do you know the hate mail I got from AP's. One anonymous email told me to watch my back because he/she would shoot me if they find me. (probably you).

    So I accidentally out an AP play and I am a villain. Mike shackleford purposely dose it. He is proud of it. He makes a joke that AP's are going to be mad. He is taking money out of players pockets when he does so, but gee, it's your buddy good 'old Mike and he is just being a good guy educating everyone.

    I am tired of the double standard. Everything is a double standard and everything is pissing contest with you insecure AP's with big egos. You got to prove you are better than the next guy. You know what that is....it's the Neapolitan Complex.

    Every fucking thing is about trying to discredit me. From the Haters that use to control this site and now from my fellow AP's. I am not a real AP because I read stuff in a book. What the fuck! Abe Lincoln learned everything by reading books. That is how most people learn things.

    I have tried really hard to be civil to you Axelwolf, but you just take shots at me and try to discredit me every chance you get. At least people like Singer and Moses are up front with their hate. You are a two-faced bitch.
    I have no idea why you're so angry about this. Exactly how am I trying to discredit you? It seems to me that you're trying to discredit Mike by starting an entire thread about him outing an advantage play. I agreed with you that sucks when he does that. I merely pointed out that you really don't have the right to bitch since he's doing exactly what all the guys who have written books and exposed information publicly have done. Without guys doing that you wouldn't know anything about Blackjack and have a career doing it. would you not agree with that? Or did you just happen to pick up on card counting while walking through a casino one day? So why is it now that you're so upset about HIM exposing plays? Have you ever read Elliot Jacobson stuff? Shackelford is an angel compared to him and many others.

    You need to take a chill pill. Nevermind me, I'm super easy to block. Is there any regular known member on these forums you haven't had a major problem with? Do you participate on any forum without creating a bunch of drama? Can you even go a week without creating/participating in some type of drama? You need to stop and ask yourself what the common denominator is?

    You keep tossing around the words backstabbing and two faced. That would require some element of friendship or me crowing how great you are to your face while going behind your back and saying the opposite or doing something bad to you. I think it's been very clear and obvious to everyone including you that I, like MANY others am not always a fan of yours. You tend to irk and annoy many people while getting on their nerves frequently, especially with your never-ending one-sided personal grudges we constantly have to deal with ad nauseam. Of course, that doesn't mean I can't be civil, nice and even like you at times. It doesn't mean I can't even try to help you if I feel you're deserving of it or it's just the right thing to do. I even agree with you on lots of things. That it doesn't make me a backstabber and two faced. These forums seem so torturous and damaging to you with absolutely no benefit, so for the life of me I cannot understand what your reasoning is for participating multiple times daily. It sounds like a good example of insanity to me.

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    No Fuck you Axelwolf! remember when I mentioned the Lucky Dragon promo, 100% by accident. I didn't even know it was an AP play. I was wondering why I got an email for a drawing for a casino had been closed for months. Do you remember that? Well, go back and read what you wrote to me. You were pissed. You reamed me a new ass (and don't you dare make a homophobic Joke you flaming homophobic asshole).

    Do you remember when I posted about the shuffle machine at El Cortez? I posted because I wanted players, AP's and non-AP's to be aware that this casino was cheating. I didn't know some AP's were able to take advantage of that. Do you know the hate mail I got from AP's. One anonymous email told me to watch my back because he/she would shoot me if they find me. (probably you).

    So I accidentally out an AP play and I am a villain. Mike shackleford purposely dose it. He is proud of it. He makes a joke that AP's are going to be mad. He is taking money out of players pockets when he does so, but gee, it's your buddy good 'old Mike and he is just being a good guy educating everyone.

    I am tired of the double standard. Everything is a double standard and everything is pissing contest with you insecure AP's with big egos. You got to prove you are better than the next guy. You know what that is....it's the Neapolitan Complex.

    Every fucking thing is about trying to discredit me. From the Haters that use to control this site and now from my fellow AP's. I am not a real AP because I read stuff in a book. What the fuck! Abe Lincoln learned everything by reading books. That is how most people learn things.

    I have tried really hard to be civil to you Axelwolf, but you just take shots at me and try to discredit me every chance you get. At least people like Singer and Moses are up front with their hate. You are a two-faced bitch.
    I have no idea why you're so angry about this. Exactly how am I trying to discredit you? It seems to me that you're trying to discredit Mike by starting an entire thread about him outing an advantage play. I agreed with you that sucks when he does that. I merely pointed out that you really don't have the right to bitch since he's doing exactly what all the guys who have written books and exposed information publicly have done. Without guys doing that you wouldn't know anything about Blackjack and have a career doing it. would you not agree with that? Or did you just happen to pick up on card counting while walking through a casino one day? So why is it now that you're so upset about HIM exposing plays? Have you ever read Elliot Jacobson stuff? Shackelford is an angel compared to him and many others.

    You need to take a chill pill. Nevermind me, I'm super easy to block. Is there any regular known member on these forums you haven't had a major problem with? Do you participate on any forum without creating a bunch of drama? Can you even go a week without creating/participating in some type of drama? You need to stop and ask yourself what the common denominator is?

    You keep tossing around the words backstabbing and two faced. That would require some element of friendship or me crowing how great you are to your face while going behind your back and saying the opposite or doing something bad to you. I think it's been very clear and obvious to everyone including you that I, like MANY others am not always a fan of yours. You tend to irk and annoy many people while getting on their nerves frequently, especially with your never-ending one-sided personal grudges we constantly have to deal with ad nauseam. Of course, that doesn't mean I can't be civil, nice and even like you at times. It doesn't mean I can't even try to help you if I feel you're deserving of it or it's just the right thing to do. I even agree with you on lots of things. That it doesn't make me a backstabber and two faced. These forums seem so torturous and damaging to you with absolutely no benefit, so for the life of me I cannot understand what your reasoning is for participating multiple times daily. It sounds like a good example of insanity to me.
    Hey, Axel I THINK you have just given me an epiphany! Thank you. Some of the things you said to KewlJ in the last paragraph could be applied to me to.

  10. #30
    KewlJ the point was it's hypocritical to condemn a gambling writer for publicizing a play when your whole career depends on such writers.

    There's a certain semi-famous AP that used to criticize slot hustlers for revealing things on Twitter that just recently gave a (paid?) speech on AP at a major conference in LV...to an audience that probably has more potential and inclination to do this stuff than any other group I can think of.

    I personally don't see any high ground from which to criticize such people beyond the obvious hypocrisy or the superficiality of their motives (e.g. exposing plays just to show off that they know about them).

  11. #31
    It's pointless to explain some flaws to kew--esp. the hypocritical ones. He can't accept any criticism, he won't respond to the tough questions, he's always right/everyone else is always wrong. He owns the city of LV, and he knows more about it, the casinos, the people and their gambling than the creator. Reminds me of my 14-year old grandson.

    He has more than one crossed wire upstairs.....

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    No Fuck you Axelwolf! remember when I mentioned the Lucky Dragon promo, 100% by accident. I didn't even know it was an AP play. I was wondering why I got an email for a drawing for a casino had been closed for months. Do you remember that? Well, go back and read what you wrote to me. You were pissed. You reamed me a new ass (and don't you dare make a homophobic Joke you flaming homophobic asshole).

    Do you remember when I posted about the shuffle machine at El Cortez? I posted because I wanted players, AP's and non-AP's to be aware that this casino was cheating. I didn't know some AP's were able to take advantage of that. Do you know the hate mail I got from AP's. One anonymous email told me to watch my back because he/she would shoot me if they find me. (probably you).

    So I accidentally out an AP play and I am a villain. Mike shackleford purposely dose it. He is proud of it. He makes a joke that AP's are going to be mad. He is taking money out of players pockets when he does so, but gee, it's your buddy good 'old Mike and he is just being a good guy educating everyone.

    I am tired of the double standard. Everything is a double standard and everything is pissing contest with you insecure AP's with big egos. You got to prove you are better than the next guy. You know what that is....it's the Neapolitan Complex.

    Every fucking thing is about trying to discredit me. From the Haters that use to control this site and now from my fellow AP's. I am not a real AP because I read stuff in a book. What the fuck! Abe Lincoln learned everything by reading books. That is how most people learn things.

    I have tried really hard to be civil to you Axelwolf, but you just take shots at me and try to discredit me every chance you get. At least people like Singer and Moses are up front with their hate. You are a two-faced bitch.
    I have no idea why you're so angry about this. Exactly how am I trying to discredit you? It seems to me that you're trying to discredit Mike by starting an entire thread about him outing an advantage play. I agreed with you that sucks when he does that. I merely pointed out that you really don't have the right to bitch since he's doing exactly what all the guys who have written books and exposed information publicly have done. Without guys doing that you wouldn't know anything about Blackjack and have a career doing it. would you not agree with that? Or did you just happen to pick up on card counting while walking through a casino one day? So why is it now that you're so upset about HIM exposing plays? Have you ever read Elliot Jacobson stuff? Shackelford is an angel compared to him and many others.

    You need to take a chill pill. Nevermind me, I'm super easy to block. Is there any regular known member on these forums you haven't had a major problem with? Do you participate on any forum without creating a bunch of drama? Can you even go a week without creating/participating in some type of drama? You need to stop and ask yourself what the common denominator is?

    You keep tossing around the words backstabbing and two faced. That would require some element of friendship or me crowing how great you are to your face while going behind your back and saying the opposite or doing something bad to you. I think it's been very clear and obvious to everyone including you that I, like MANY others am not always a fan of yours. You tend to irk and annoy many people while getting on their nerves frequently, especially with your never-ending one-sided personal grudges we constantly have to deal with ad nauseam. Of course, that doesn't mean I can't be civil, nice and even like you at times. It doesn't mean I can't even try to help you if I feel you're deserving of it or it's just the right thing to do. I even agree with you on lots of things. That it doesn't make me a backstabber and two faced. These forums seem so torturous and damaging to you with absolutely no benefit, so for the life of me I cannot understand what your reasoning is for participating multiple times daily. It sounds like a good example of insanity to me.
    You want to escalate. Fine we will escalate jackass. I'll bet the casinos will appreciate getting your name and picture. After all, you are nothing to me. We aren't friends.

    And while we are at it tell us what Mike had for breakfast since your nose is that far up his ass. And that is what everything always comes back to.

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    No Fuck you Axelwolf! remember when I mentioned the Lucky Dragon promo, 100% by accident. I didn't even know it was an AP play. I was wondering why I got an email for a drawing for a casino had been closed for months. Do you remember that? Well, go back and read what you wrote to me. You were pissed. You reamed me a new ass (and don't you dare make a homophobic Joke you flaming homophobic asshole).

    Do you remember when I posted about the shuffle machine at El Cortez? I posted because I wanted players, AP's and non-AP's to be aware that this casino was cheating. I didn't know some AP's were able to take advantage of that. Do you know the hate mail I got from AP's. One anonymous email told me to watch my back because he/she would shoot me if they find me. (probably you).

    So I accidentally out an AP play and I am a villain. Mike shackleford purposely dose it. He is proud of it. He makes a joke that AP's are going to be mad. He is taking money out of players pockets when he does so, but gee, it's your buddy good 'old Mike and he is just being a good guy educating everyone.

    I am tired of the double standard. Everything is a double standard and everything is pissing contest with you insecure AP's with big egos. You got to prove you are better than the next guy. You know what that is....it's the Neapolitan Complex.

    Every fucking thing is about trying to discredit me. From the Haters that use to control this site and now from my fellow AP's. I am not a real AP because I read stuff in a book. What the fuck! Abe Lincoln learned everything by reading books. That is how most people learn things.

    I have tried really hard to be civil to you Axelwolf, but you just take shots at me and try to discredit me every chance you get. At least people like Singer and Moses are up front with their hate. You are a two-faced bitch.
    I have no idea why you're so angry about this. Exactly how am I trying to discredit you? It seems to me that you're trying to discredit Mike by starting an entire thread about him outing an advantage play. I agreed with you that sucks when he does that. I merely pointed out that you really don't have the right to bitch since he's doing exactly what all the guys who have written books and exposed information publicly have done. Without guys doing that you wouldn't know anything about Blackjack and have a career doing it. would you not agree with that? Or did you just happen to pick up on card counting while walking through a casino one day? So why is it now that you're so upset about HIM exposing plays? Have you ever read Elliot Jacobson stuff? Shackelford is an angel compared to him and many others.

    You need to take a chill pill. Nevermind me, I'm super easy to block. Is there any regular known member on these forums you haven't had a major problem with? Do you participate on any forum without creating a bunch of drama? Can you even go a week without creating/participating in some type of drama? You need to stop and ask yourself what the common denominator is?

    You keep tossing around the words backstabbing and two faced. That would require some element of friendship or me crowing how great you are to your face while going behind your back and saying the opposite or doing something bad to you. I think it's been very clear and obvious to everyone including you that I, like MANY others am not always a fan of yours. You tend to irk and annoy many people while getting on their nerves frequently, especially with your never-ending one-sided personal grudges we constantly have to deal with ad nauseam. Of course, that doesn't mean I can't be civil, nice and even like you at times. It doesn't mean I can't even try to help you if I feel you're deserving of it or it's just the right thing to do. I even agree with you on lots of things. That it doesn't make me a backstabber and two faced. These forums seem so torturous and damaging to you with absolutely no benefit, so for the life of me I cannot understand what your reasoning is for participating multiple times daily. It sounds like a good example of insanity to me.
    You want to escalate. Fine we will escalate jackass. I'll bet the casinos will appreciate getting your name and picture. After all, you are nothing to me. We aren't friends.

    And while we are at it tell us what Mike had for breakfast since your nose is that far up his ass. And that is what everything always comes back to.
    I'm sorry my criteria for friendship is much higher than yours. I was saying we don't have a level of friendship that would support your accusations of backstabbing and being two-faced.

    Please do explain to me how I'm escalating this to a level that would cause you to threaten to expose me to casinos by sending my picture and name to casinos? I have never even thought about, suggested or even joked about exposing anything about you(or anyone) to casinos for any reason whatsoever. I've never done or said anything that would hurt your career in any way shape or form. I never put any effort into even finding out who you are or what your real name is or much about you. Other than trying to get you reinstated on The Wizard of Vegas and communicating with you on the internet and perhaps someone mentioning your forum name here and there as soon as I close the forum window I stopped thinking about all the b******* and unimportant things on the forums.
    For the most part, if I haven't met someone in person or at least communicated with them be a phone, Skype or some other method they fade out of my memory and thoughts.

    What you just said is probably one of the worst things an advantage player can say. That's some dark side shit right there, and all because your feelings are hurt and some trivial stuff has been said on internet forums. I highly suggest you delete that because I can't imagine DanDruff would appreciate having people making those kinds of threats on his forum. I have to imagine that comment right there will ring through the AP community loud and clear and show what kind of person KJ really is. The fact that it's even a thought in your head is enough to be worrisome to the entire AP community. And it's all over some internet argument b*******? I guess this is your way of trying to win the argument and have the last word? The worst thing I've said to you was busting your balls here in there and gave you a hard time regarding your battle with Mike and others. Nothing I have said or done ever Rose to any level that should cause a reaction that you just displayed when presented to any halfway normal person.

    You should really step back and think about what you just said. Yeah I know, you'll defend your actions till the end and try to justify it with a bunch of BS because you can never admit to being completely wrong and totally overreacting about something. You have always had the option to block me and not communicate with me. I myself have managed to totally ignore a few people no matter what they have or do say. It's worked very well this far.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 08-29-2019 at 02:38 PM.

  14. #34
    Fuck off Axel. AP community? What the fuck do I care about the AP community? I did. But no more. No one in the AP community has supported me. Well maybe BoSox. He has been a good friend. I also consider a couple other guys that don't participate here or at WoV friends. But I have gotten little support from anyone else in this "community". Everyone is out for themselves, so I can play that game. And I will.

    So let that be the answer to who KJ really is: I treat people with respect until they disrespect me. Then I give it back.

    And don't answer this. We are done. But I am pretty sure you will be thinking about me in the near future. Something along the lines of "that mother fucker".

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    No Fuck you Axelwolf! remember when I mentioned the Lucky Dragon promo, 100% by accident. I didn't even know it was an AP play. I was wondering why I got an email for a drawing for a casino had been closed for months. Do you remember that? Well, go back and read what you wrote to me. You were pissed. You reamed me a new ass (and don't you dare make a homophobic Joke you flaming homophobic asshole).

    Do you remember when I posted about the shuffle machine at El Cortez? I posted because I wanted players, AP's and non-AP's to be aware that this casino was cheating. I didn't know some AP's were able to take advantage of that. Do you know the hate mail I got from AP's. One anonymous email told me to watch my back because he/she would shoot me if they find me. (probably you).

    So I accidentally out an AP play and I am a villain. Mike shackleford purposely dose it. He is proud of it. He makes a joke that AP's are going to be mad. He is taking money out of players pockets when he does so, but gee, it's your buddy good 'old Mike and he is just being a good guy educating everyone.

    I am tired of the double standard. Everything is a double standard and everything is pissing contest with you insecure AP's with big egos. You got to prove you are better than the next guy. You know what that is....it's the Neapolitan Complex.

    Every fucking thing is about trying to discredit me. From the Haters that use to control this site and now from my fellow AP's. I am not a real AP because I read stuff in a book. What the fuck! Abe Lincoln learned everything by reading books. That is how most people learn things.

    I have tried really hard to be civil to you Axelwolf, but you just take shots at me and try to discredit me every chance you get. At least people like Singer and Moses are up front with their hate. You are a two-faced bitch.
    I have no idea why you're so angry about this. Exactly how am I trying to discredit you? It seems to me that you're trying to discredit Mike by starting an entire thread about him outing an advantage play. I agreed with you that sucks when he does that. I merely pointed out that you really don't have the right to bitch since he's doing exactly what all the guys who have written books and exposed information publicly have done. Without guys doing that you wouldn't know anything about Blackjack and have a career doing it. would you not agree with that? Or did you just happen to pick up on card counting while walking through a casino one day? So why is it now that you're so upset about HIM exposing plays? Have you ever read Elliot Jacobson stuff? Shackelford is an angel compared to him and many others.

    You need to take a chill pill. Nevermind me, I'm super easy to block. Is there any regular known member on these forums you haven't had a major problem with? Do you participate on any forum without creating a bunch of drama? Can you even go a week without creating/participating in some type of drama? You need to stop and ask yourself what the common denominator is?

    You keep tossing around the words backstabbing and two faced. That would require some element of friendship or me crowing how great you are to your face while going behind your back and saying the opposite or doing something bad to you. I think it's been very clear and obvious to everyone including you that I, like MANY others am not always a fan of yours. You tend to irk and annoy many people while getting on their nerves frequently, especially with your never-ending one-sided personal grudges we constantly have to deal with ad nauseam. Of course, that doesn't mean I can't be civil, nice and even like you at times. It doesn't mean I can't even try to help you if I feel you're deserving of it or it's just the right thing to do. I even agree with you on lots of things. That it doesn't make me a backstabber and two faced. These forums seem so torturous and damaging to you with absolutely no benefit, so for the life of me I cannot understand what your reasoning is for participating multiple times daily. It sounds like a good example of insanity to me.
    You want to escalate. Fine we will escalate jackass. I'll bet the casinos will appreciate getting your name and picture. After all, you are nothing to me. We aren't friends.

    Come on now, you know better than that! Please take it back and apologize.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Fuck off Axel. AP community? What the fuck do I care about the AP community? I did. But no more. No one in the AP community has supported me. Well maybe BoSox. He has been a good friend. I also consider a couple other guys that don't participate here or at WoV friends. But I have gotten little support from anyone else in this "community". Everyone is out for themselves, so I can play that game. And I will.

    So let that be the answer to who KJ really is: I treat people with respect until they disrespect me. Then I give it back.

    And don't answer this. We are done. But I am pretty sure you will be thinking about me in the near future. Something along the lines of "that mother fucker".
    It won't take much for a group of AP's to monitor various pits in Las Vegas and profile the counters that come thru to figure out which one is KJ. Get pics and everything. Deliver them to Griffin, OSN and all the casinos. And then you, KJ, will be saying "those motherfuckers!!!" Don't think your outing an AP won't go unpunished by the AP community.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #37

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Fuck off Axel. AP community? What the fuck do I care about the AP community? I did. But no more. No one in the AP community has supported me. Well maybe BoSox. He has been a good friend. I also consider a couple other guys that don't participate here or at WoV friends. But I have gotten little support from anyone else in this "community". Everyone is out for themselves, so I can play that game. And I will.

    So let that be the answer to who KJ really is: I treat people with respect until they disrespect me. Then I give it back.

    And don't answer this. We are done. But I am pretty sure you will be thinking about me in the near future. Something along the lines of "that mother fucker".
    So now that you no longer care you're ready to expose an AP to casinos?

    I'm in disbelief at the absurdity of this. I mean that's some next level shit right there. I motion that Dan perma-ban you from this forum. It has become obvious that you are incapable of handling yourself in a civilized manner.
    I usually don't agree with nukes on the WoV, but damn, Mike sure had it right about you. I regret ever speaking up on your behalf. I feel like a total retard.
    Last edited by MaxPen; 08-29-2019 at 07:24 PM.

  19. #39
    I would never out an AP. Hell, I have All of Rob's personal information and including SS# and shit and don't even out him or make his life a living hell as I could.

    But I am serious. I get little support from this community. I am not talking about the hater's, the bitter old Degen gamblers like Rob and Blackhole, Alan before him. I am talking about players on multiple forums blaming me because they haven't won. And players that are supposed to be my fellow AP, always taking shots at me, because I choose to remain at the card counting level, as if I am some sort of mental midget. And NOW I am not even a real AP because I learned about card counting from books and members on forums? What the fuck is that Shit?

    For the record I learned as much as I could from many sources, books, forums, players on forums, software and my own experiences. Remember Las Vegas is my second go around. I had an earlier part of my career that didn't go great. I was basically 86ed from all my local casinos just as I started making some decent money. So I have taken all this including my own experiences and things I learned on my own from things like playing with software and formed and play a unique style that I don't think anyone else is playing, that has allowed me to play and make decent money for more than a decade in what is considered one of the sweatiest places to play. I would indeed call that self taught, not that it matters where anyone learns anything from....the important thing is to dedicate yourself to learning it. I have earned what I have and where I am and I don't appreciate anyone telling me I am not a real AP because I read stuff in book. I mean I could see that from the Hater society, but from my fellow AP's? WTF?!?

    So no Axelwolf, I am not going to out you to anyone. I am sorry I said that. It was pretty nasty. But I am pissed. Axelwolf, perhaps the most honest thing you said today was admitting that you don't like me very much. I'll give you that. That comes through loud and clear with all your little shots at me professionally and personally. WE have had this conversation in private numerous times and each time, you apologize, but the very next chance you get, same shit!

    There is a definite double standard on this forum and through out the community concerning me. For proof look no further than Mickeycrimms comment this week calling me a pedophile. When I did that to coach belly, I was warned it was against the rules. But coming at me is fair game. So you all don't have to bother lobbying Dan, I am done. I kick myself for even staying here 2 years. There is no value in the forum. It is a hateful troll forum, and that includes participants of that behavior that are fellow AP's.

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    Stating that 90% of homesexuals are pedophiles is different than calling someone a pedophile.

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