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  1. #161
    And btw, I know you are really pissed that I posted the "willing to forgive and forget" private comment, very similarly to how Mike is pissed that I posted some private things that he said that contradict what he said publicly. And while that isn't a nice thing to do and something I don't do lightly, the bigger issue is your dishonesty. You lied! You forced me to expose your lie. And now judging from this reply, you are even madder at me because you lied.

    Frankly I think you did the same thing with the "my brother is gay thing" and that's why you have ignored that question. I was bitching about you outing me to this forum and you gave me a "my brother is gay" line, just like a racist would say "hey I have black friends". But that is really irrelevant.

    The point is you lied and were dishonest. Forced me to prove you were dishonest. And then get mad at me.

  2. #162
    I have just completed the unplanned drive back to the Northeast due to enforced evacuation by Dorian. While I should be addressing other issues I would like to pass along some unsolicited thoughts.

    For myself, I have learned the most from this forum from MC and KJ. Frankly, I never have had the need to have issues with items regarding gaming. I read, review, research, and then have fun. Lately, like a hurricane, things have taken a twist. Using a traveling vernacular, quoting Yogi Berra, when you hit a fork in the road, take it. Another is, when you do not know where you are going, any road will take you there.

    I guess I am trying to state that there has been some responses, that if I had made, I wish I took the "24 hour" rule (and I say that from experience). Yes, simple political comments or friendly advise can escalate to things with multiple responses, that you want to simply state "damn". Again, I am not stating I would not do it, especially on a forum, but then again, I am not the one questioned.

    The reason for my response, is simply, redietz. His post is thoughtful and hits the important points. While Rob may have issues with Red, I have understood every post he has written (no, I am not a psychologist).

    Hopefully, things will subside and the skies will clear, just like the coast of Florida. I look forward to more adventures with everyone.

  3. #163
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I'm going to put in my two cents. I don't know how old Axelwolf is, but somebody's coming across like he's lived a sheltered life. This is all tempest in a teapot nonsense. And if "Singer" weren't in an anti-KJ corner, he'd be harping on what a "snowflake" Axel sounds like.

    KJ didn't do anything. Period. If and when he does something, then he's done something. KJ went, "Nyahh, nyaahhh, you're gonna be exposed." Axel portrays this as some big deal threat to the universe. Goddamn, Axel, I have some brilliant advice for you. That advice is based on the fact that sports handicappers have been stealing and exposing each other's plays for gazillions of years. The only thing that keeps me out of the circle jerk is that I'm an anomaly -- I use very few "set plays." So nobody can steal anything from me, or expose my livelihood to the casino bad guys, or hurt me. But the best people in the business have had their best plays exposed, their client lists stolen, their run-ins with the law or whatever publicized. Mike Lee, one of the finest handicappers of all time, entered into partnerships with people who ripped off everything from his style to his plays to his clients. People try to data mine your plays and profile every handicapper who wins -- they are trying to destroy you every blessed day of every year.

    So here's my brilliant advice to naïve snowflakes:

    If somebody has the ability to shut you down, expose you, and hurt you, you may want to consider treating them with formality and a modicum of respect. Now if I thought KJ was actually going to expose you, Axel -- and I do not -- the problem is mainly of your making. If you know people who'd have no qualms about putting you in the ground if you disrespect them, and reality forces you to interact with them regularly (and yes, I have dealings with those kinds of people and have for 40 years), then guess what? Don't be a flippant horse's ass in their company.

    Now I realize this is just genius advice. But I figure I'd pass it along.

    I don't know how standard APs operate, but until somebody does something, they haven't done something. If KJ wanted to out you or anybody, all he'd have to do his have a friend or brother do it. Or hell, me. I'd do it, sufficiently motivated.

    I find your post such a flagrant attempt to squash KJ, who hasn't done anything, that it's ridiculous. I don't even understand your logic. If you get KJ banned here, based on his threat to out you, then why wouldn't he out you? You must want to be outed, or being outed isn't a big deal. I mean, that's the logical outcome, right?

    Unless, of course, you know KJ wouldn't do that?

    So which is it?

    As for some other things on your list of KJ's psycho moments:

    1) People look up other people's info all the time, usually with more detail than what KJ does. My brother-in-law was the biggest PI in New Mexico. If I wanted to know anything about anybody on this forum, odds are, I'd be able to do it. I haven't bothered. If you have an email address of someone, you're about 50/50 to being able to track down their name and residence. Here's a hint: KJ has money. He could just buy the forum if he wanted to screw with people. Big revelation.

    2) If somebody's screws with you, reminding them you're going to screw with them in perpetuity is SOP. What, you're supposed to play nice? Why? Shackleford, in my opinion, based on what I've read, deserves any grief he gets from KJ.


    I've said this before, but I'm not sure I'd last 72 hours as KJ's roommate unless he were mute or I could slap him in the face once every 12 minutes. But that doesn't make him an evil anti-AP psycho. I don't know why you guys are playing drama queens aimed at the resident drama queen, but grow up and get real.

    And my advice: if somebody has the ability to squash you, or the inclination to bury you and yours, you may want to inject some formality into your interactions. Or cease the interactions on a friendly note.
    This right here is the post of the year. I take my hat off to you sir. I feel exactly the same although I do not have the patience to put it in writing in such great detail as you do. Here's my translated short message to Axel: grow a pair and stop crying like a little girl.

  4. #164
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I'm going to put in my two cents. I don't know how old Axelwolf is, but somebody's coming across like he's lived a sheltered life. This is all tempest in a teapot nonsense. And if "Singer" weren't in an anti-KJ corner, he'd be harping on what a "snowflake" Axel sounds like.

    KJ didn't do anything. Period. If and when he does something, then he's done something. KJ went, "Nyahh, nyaahhh, you're gonna be exposed." Axel portrays this as some big deal threat to the universe. Goddamn, Axel, I have some brilliant advice for you. That advice is based on the fact that sports handicappers have been stealing and exposing each other's plays for gazillions of years. The only thing that keeps me out of the circle jerk is that I'm an anomaly -- I use very few "set plays." So nobody can steal anything from me, or expose my livelihood to the casino bad guys, or hurt me. But the best people in the business have had their best plays exposed, their client lists stolen, their run-ins with the law or whatever publicized. Mike Lee, one of the finest handicappers of all time, entered into partnerships with people who ripped off everything from his style to his plays to his clients. People try to data mine your plays and profile every handicapper who wins -- they are trying to destroy you every blessed day of every year.

    So here's my brilliant advice to naïve snowflakes:

    If somebody has the ability to shut you down, expose you, and hurt you, you may want to consider treating them with formality and a modicum of respect. Now if I thought KJ was actually going to expose you, Axel -- and I do not -- the problem is mainly of your making. If you know people who'd have no qualms about putting you in the ground if you disrespect them, and reality forces you to interact with them regularly (and yes, I have dealings with those kinds of people and have for 40 years), then guess what? Don't be a flippant horse's ass in their company.

    Now I realize this is just genius advice. But I figure I'd pass it along.

    I don't know how standard APs operate, but until somebody does something, they haven't done something. If KJ wanted to out you or anybody, all he'd have to do his have a friend or brother do it. Or hell, me. I'd do it, sufficiently motivated.

    I find your post such a flagrant attempt to squash KJ, who hasn't done anything, that it's ridiculous. I don't even understand your logic. If you get KJ banned here, based on his threat to out you, then why wouldn't he out you? You must want to be outed, or being outed isn't a big deal. I mean, that's the logical outcome, right?

    Unless, of course, you know KJ wouldn't do that?

    So which is it?

    As for some other things on your list of KJ's psycho moments:

    1) People look up other people's info all the time, usually with more detail than what KJ does. My brother-in-law was the biggest PI in New Mexico. If I wanted to know anything about anybody on this forum, odds are, I'd be able to do it. I haven't bothered. If you have an email address of someone, you're about 50/50 to being able to track down their name and residence. Here's a hint: KJ has money. He could just buy the forum if he wanted to screw with people. Big revelation.

    2) If somebody's screws with you, reminding them you're going to screw with them in perpetuity is SOP. What, you're supposed to play nice? Why? Shackleford, in my opinion, based on what I've read, deserves any grief he gets from KJ.


    I've said this before, but I'm not sure I'd last 72 hours as KJ's roommate unless he were mute or I could slap him in the face once every 12 minutes. But that doesn't make him an evil anti-AP psycho. I don't know why you guys are playing drama queens aimed at the resident drama queen, but grow up and get real.

    And my advice: if somebody has the ability to squash you, or the inclination to bury you and yours, you may want to inject some formality into your interactions. Or cease the interactions on a friendly note.
    This right here is the post of the year. I take my hat off to you sir. I feel exactly the same although I do not have the patience to put it in writing in such great detail as you do. Here's my translated short message to Axel: grow a pair and stop crying like a little girl.
    Except, as usual, it isn't accurate. Red keeps harping "kj hasn't DONE anything!" Think again. What he perpetually does is THREATEN to do something, and in case you're missing it, these are the days when what people say carry consequences.

    Red's also saying he knows "the biggest PI in NM", and how such a person is necessary for snooping. Wrong again--this ain't 1984, the days he seems to still live in. Anybody with a credit card can find virtually anything, and anybody with a computer can locate anybody. And aside from all that, all you really need is a friend or relative in law enforcement or in certain elements of the govt. for all your needs. So when a sicko like kew is stupid enough to use these type of words against anyone online, he's again done something "wrong".

    Finally, Red suggests whimping away from those who have the inclination of ability to hurt you. That may be how foreigners and libtards do it, but big mouth bullies like kew only understand strength--whether it be physical or a retort in words. Cowards can never handle this type of strength, which is exactly why kew keeps screaming back at axel. It's also why your idol is having such a problem with this.

    Start monkeying around--be prepared to face Kong.

  5. #165
    More of the same corny jibber jabber from Singer. Same lame shit.....different day.

  6. #166
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    More of the same corny jibber jabber from Singer. Same lame shit.....different day.
    Singer is a one trick pony and that trick is hate. But I will give him this....at least he is upfront about his hate. He doesn't pretend to be friendly while he is doing everything he can to undermine and discredit you. I can't believe I am saying this, but on this front Singer is more honest that that lowlife, weasel Axelwolf.

  7. #167
    KewlJ are you really claiming you have had no contact with the "FBI" over all your forum bullshit?

    Maybe not the "FBI" technically but I damn well remember you writing about your visits to the Cyber Crime division of LVMPD, or whatever it was. You even claimed they gave you info on who Moses was.
    Any reasonable person might think someone who has to run to authorities over internet forums might have a problem. You're that GUY. Think about it.

  8. #168
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    KewlJ are you really claiming you have had no contact with the "FBI" over all your forum bullshit?

    Maybe not the "FBI" technically but I damn well remember you writing about your visits to the Cyber Crime division of LVMPD, or whatever it was. You even claimed they gave you info on who Moses was.
    Any reasonable person might think someone who has to run to authorities over internet forums might have a problem. You're that GUY. Think about it.
    Do you watch the news MaxPen? About once a week, now there is someone that posts some threat online and the next day people, often many people end up dead.

    Now if I am not mistaken, your dear friend Mr Shackleford filed a police report or claimed he did over something Mickeycrimm said. Do you remember? It was back in the days when Mickey "indulged" a little and sometimes at night, his posts tended to go a little "colorful".

    Actually I shouldn't make lite of it because Mickey did threaten Mike, but as soon as Mickey came to his senses the next day, He apologized, like a man and I think anyone with half a brain that was familiar with Mickey's late night posting routine, recognized that Mickey was just being how mickey was at the time and wasn't a threat.

    Now I am not going to say how anyone that feels they were threatened should or shouldn't react. That is the person who feels threatened call. If Mike really felt threatened, I guess he was in his right to go to the police. I happen to think Mike was smart enough and knew Mickey well enough that he really didn't feel threatened, but rather wanted to make a point. But that's my opinion. But again, if he really felt threatened he had ever right.

    So this is exactly the kind of double standard I am talking about. Why is it ok for Mike to feel threatened and go to the authorities, but when I do it "I might have a problem"?


    So in my case this person who posts as Moses, threatened me 3 years ago on another forum. And I am not talking his "I'm going to kick your ass" or that kind of bravado stuff. I am talking "I have friends in Las Vegas and I will find you and shoot you". So that was 3 years ago.

    Now remember the guy that was asking people for any personal information on me, a picture, address, ect over at WoV a couple years ago? Who do you think that was? I was able to contact Mike through a third party and to his credit he banned that person.

    Now on this very site, Moses was PMing people and asking for any personal information they had on or about me. A member informed me just yesterday that this occurred. I'm not going to ask him/her to step forward and repeat it. Other before him have also confirmed the exact same thing. I mean why do you think Moses is banned from a forum that it is impossible to get banned from?

    So when this second threat to come to Las Vegas search the casinos, stay as long as it takes, find me and shoot me was made, hell yeah, I contacted the police. I mean this isn't a person that said something while drunk that he regrets and anyone that knows him didn't take all that seriously and this isn't a person like me, that was pushed and pushed and said something (not a physical threat) spur of the moment to Axelwolf that I regret. This is a person that made the same threat (to shoot me) 3 years apart, so it is something constantly on his mind. And in that interim time he was trolling me on numerous forums PMing people for information about me.

    And the police have a pretty detailed sheet of this guy did the same to a number of people, including another member of the blackjack/AP community that isn't one of my favorite people. This person also has a pretty good rap sheet, including assault. Anyone who doesn't take THIS kind of threat seriously is asking for trouble in today's world.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 09-04-2019 at 12:53 PM.

  9. #169
    I also am not a big gun guy. I believe in the second amendment and people right to have guns, not sure the forefathers envisioned assault rifles , but I don't want to get too political. Anyway until a few years ago, I personally just didn't want to own a gun. It just wasn't the way I wanted to live. But that has changed in the past few years, not 100% specific to this situation, also just the world we live in.

    So if you own a gun as I do and you defend yourself and again this isn't specific to this situation, even if someone breaks into your home and you shoot them, you kind are the one that has to prove you were justisfied and did nothing wrong. (screwed up world in which we live).

    So anyone that has a situation like I have described is well advised to contact the police and file a report. Should the worse case scenario occur and you are forced to do what you need to do to defend yourself, that report acts as protection for you in proving you were justified.

  10. #170
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    KewlJ are you really claiming you have had no contact with the "FBI" over all your forum bullshit?

    Maybe not the "FBI" technically but I damn well remember you writing about your visits to the Cyber Crime division of LVMPD, or whatever it was. You even claimed they gave you info on who Moses was.
    Any reasonable person might think someone who has to run to authorities over internet forums might have a problem. You're that GUY. Think about it.
    Do you watch the news MaxPen? About once a week, now there is someone that posts some threat online and the next day people, often many people end up dead.

    Now if I am not mistaken, your dear friend Mr Shackleford filed a police report or claimed he did over something Mickeycrimm said. Do you remember? It was back in the days when Mickey "indulged" a little and sometimes at night, his posts tended to go a little "colorful".

    Actually I shouldn't make lite of it because Mickey did threaten Mike, but as soon as Mickey came to his senses the next day, He apologized, like a man and I think anyone with half a brain that was familiar with Mickey's late night posting routine, recognized that Mickey was just being how mickey was at the time and wasn't a threat.

    Now I am not going to say how anyone that feels they were threatened should or shouldn't react. That is the person who feels threatened call. If Mike really felt threatened, I guess he was in his right to go to the police. I happen to think Mike was smart enough and knew Mickey well enough that he really didn't feel threatened, but rather wanted to make a point. But that's my opinion. But again, if he really felt threatened he had ever right.

    So this is exactly the kind of double standard I am talking about. Why is it ok for Mike to feel threatened and go to the authorities, but when I do it "I might have a problem"?


    So in my case this person who posts as Moses, threatened me 3 years ago on another forum. And I am not talking his "I'm going to kick your ass" or that kind of bravado stuff. I am talking "I have friends in Las Vegas and I will find you and shoot you". So that was 3 years ago.

    Now remember the guy that was asking people for any personal information on me, a picture, address, ect over at WoV a couple years ago? Who do you think that was? I was able to contact Mike through a third party and to his credit he banned that person.

    Now on this very site, Moses was PMing people and asking for any personal information they had on or about me. A member informed me just yesterday that this occurred. I'm not going to ask him/her to step forward and repeat it. Other before him have also confirmed the exact same thing. I mean why do you think Moses is banned from a forum that it is impossible to get banned from?

    So when this second threat to come to Las Vegas search the casinos, stay as long as it takes, find me and shoot me was made, hell yeah, I contacted the police. I mean this isn't a person that said something while drunk that he regrets and anyone that knows him didn't take all that seriously and this isn't a person like me, that was pushed and pushed and said something (not a physical threat) spur of the moment to Axelwolf that I regret. This is a person that made the same threat (to shoot me) 3 years apart, so it is something constantly on his mind. And in that interim time he was trolling me on numerous forums PMing people for information about me.

    And the police have a pretty detailed sheet of this guy did the same to a number of people, including another member of the blackjack/AP community that isn't one of my favorite people. This person also has a pretty good rap sheet, including assault. Anyone who doesn't take THIS kind of threat seriously is asking for trouble in today's world.
    First of all I never said I agreed with Mike going to the police. I find that rediculous in that situation as well. However, there is a difference between a forum owner in a situation vs a forum participant. One can easily stop participating and the other cannot.
    Another irony in your post is Moses still remains a member of WoV in good standing.
    I know arguing with you about your behavior and conduct is fruitless. Like Axel says, "you always have to have the last word". But seriously, you really need to take an introspective look at your behavior and realize how it is coming across to others.

  11. #171
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    KewlJ are you really claiming you have had no contact with the "FBI" over all your forum bullshit?

    Maybe not the "FBI" technically but I damn well remember you writing about your visits to the Cyber Crime division of LVMPD, or whatever it was. You even claimed they gave you info on who Moses was.
    Any reasonable person might think someone who has to run to authorities over internet forums might have a problem. You're that GUY. Think about it.
    Do you watch the news MaxPen? About once a week, now there is someone that posts some threat online and the next day people, often many people end up dead.

    Now if I am not mistaken, your dear friend Mr Shackleford filed a police report or claimed he did over something Mickeycrimm said. Do you remember? It was back in the days when Mickey "indulged" a little and sometimes at night, his posts tended to go a little "colorful".

    Actually I shouldn't make lite of it because Mickey did threaten Mike, but as soon as Mickey came to his senses the next day, He apologized, like a man and I think anyone with half a brain that was familiar with Mickey's late night posting routine, recognized that Mickey was just being how mickey was at the time and wasn't a threat.

    Now I am not going to say how anyone that feels they were threatened should or shouldn't react. That is the person who feels threatened call. If Mike really felt threatened, I guess he was in his right to go to the police. I happen to think Mike was smart enough and knew Mickey well enough that he really didn't feel threatened, but rather wanted to make a point. But that's my opinion. But again, if he really felt threatened he had ever right.

    So this is exactly the kind of double standard I am talking about. Why is it ok for Mike to feel threatened and go to the authorities, but when I do it "I might have a problem"?


    So in my case this person who posts as Moses, threatened me 3 years ago on another forum. And I am not talking his "I'm going to kick your ass" or that kind of bravado stuff. I am talking "I have friends in Las Vegas and I will find you and shoot you". So that was 3 years ago.

    Now remember the guy that was asking people for any personal information on me, a picture, address, ect over at WoV a couple years ago? Who do you think that was? I was able to contact Mike through a third party and to his credit he banned that person.

    Now on this very site, Moses was PMing people and asking for any personal information they had on or about me. A member informed me just yesterday that this occurred. I'm not going to ask him/her to step forward and repeat it. Other before him have also confirmed the exact same thing. I mean why do you think Moses is banned from a forum that it is impossible to get banned from?

    So when this second threat to come to Las Vegas search the casinos, stay as long as it takes, find me and shoot me was made, hell yeah, I contacted the police. I mean this isn't a person that said something while drunk that he regrets and anyone that knows him didn't take all that seriously and this isn't a person like me, that was pushed and pushed and said something (not a physical threat) spur of the moment to Axelwolf that I regret. This is a person that made the same threat (to shoot me) 3 years apart, so it is something constantly on his mind. And in that interim time he was trolling me on numerous forums PMing people for information about me.

    And the police have a pretty detailed sheet of this guy did the same to a number of people, including another member of the blackjack/AP community that isn't one of my favorite people. This person also has a pretty good rap sheet, including assault. Anyone who doesn't take THIS kind of threat seriously is asking for trouble in today's world.
    About Moses, Moses DID actually pose a real threat to you, KewlJ...:/ He got banned after asking on how to find you and at FIRST pretended he had good intentions and just wanted to have dinner with you and shoot the breeze with you. At least one very observant Poster said something like,"I am getting a very "Uh oh," vibe from Moses's seemingly innocent request. Please no one actually give Moses information on how to find KewlJ. I have a feeling he'll hurt KewlJ if he actually finds him in the real world." Moses later admitted that his "Innocent" post wasn't really all that innocent at all and had he actually gotten information on how to find you, he would have beat you up. He admitted that he plotted to hurt you by tricking people into thinking he just wanted to hang out with you. That observant Poster was right and Moses was banned for plotting to beat you up.
    Last edited by Tasha; 09-04-2019 at 01:34 PM.

  12. #172
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I also am not a big gun guy. I believe in the second amendment and people right to have guns, not sure the forefathers envisioned assault rifles , but I don't want to get too political. Anyway until a few years ago, I personally just didn't want to own a gun. It just wasn't the way I wanted to live. But that has changed in the past few years, not 100% specific to this situation, also just the world we live in.

    So if you own a gun as I do and you defend yourself and again this isn't specific to this situation, even if someone breaks into your home and you shoot them, you kind are the one that has to prove you were justisfied and did nothing wrong. (screwed up world in which we live).

    So anyone that has a situation like I have described is well advised to contact the police and file a report. Should the worse case scenario occur and you are forced to do what you need to do to defend yourself, that report acts as protection for you in proving you were justified.
    With the ability to lash out without forethought owning a gun might not be the best thing for you. But I believe everyone should exercise their right. Hopefully you will not become a statistic that allows others to attack the right to bear arms further.

  13. #173
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    KewlJ are you really claiming you have had no contact with the "FBI" over all your forum bullshit?

    Maybe not the "FBI" technically but I damn well remember you writing about your visits to the Cyber Crime division of LVMPD, or whatever it was. You even claimed they gave you info on who Moses was.
    Any reasonable person might think someone who has to run to authorities over internet forums might have a problem. You're that GUY. Think about it.
    Do you watch the news MaxPen? About once a week, now there is someone that posts some threat online and the next day people, often many people end up dead.

    Now if I am not mistaken, your dear friend Mr Shackleford filed a police report or claimed he did over something Mickeycrimm said. Do you remember? It was back in the days when Mickey "indulged" a little and sometimes at night, his posts tended to go a little "colorful".

    Actually I shouldn't make lite of it because Mickey did threaten Mike, but as soon as Mickey came to his senses the next day, He apologized, like a man and I think anyone with half a brain that was familiar with Mickey's late night posting routine, recognized that Mickey was just being how mickey was at the time and wasn't a threat.

    Now I am not going to say how anyone that feels they were threatened should or shouldn't react. That is the person who feels threatened call. If Mike really felt threatened, I guess he was in his right to go to the police. I happen to think Mike was smart enough and knew Mickey well enough that he really didn't feel threatened, but rather wanted to make a point. But that's my opinion. But again, if he really felt threatened he had ever right.

    So this is exactly the kind of double standard I am talking about. Why is it ok for Mike to feel threatened and go to the authorities, but when I do it "I might have a problem"?


    So in my case this person who posts as Moses, threatened me 3 years ago on another forum. And I am not talking his "I'm going to kick your ass" or that kind of bravado stuff. I am talking "I have friends in Las Vegas and I will find you and shoot you". So that was 3 years ago.

    Now remember the guy that was asking people for any personal information on me, a picture, address, ect over at WoV a couple years ago? Who do you think that was? I was able to contact Mike through a third party and to his credit he banned that person.

    Now on this very site, Moses was PMing people and asking for any personal information they had on or about me. A member informed me just yesterday that this occurred. I'm not going to ask him/her to step forward and repeat it. Other before him have also confirmed the exact same thing. I mean why do you think Moses is banned from a forum that it is impossible to get banned from?

    So when this second threat to come to Las Vegas search the casinos, stay as long as it takes, find me and shoot me was made, hell yeah, I contacted the police. I mean this isn't a person that said something while drunk that he regrets and anyone that knows him didn't take all that seriously and this isn't a person like me, that was pushed and pushed and said something (not a physical threat) spur of the moment to Axelwolf that I regret. This is a person that made the same threat (to shoot me) 3 years apart, so it is something constantly on his mind. And in that interim time he was trolling me on numerous forums PMing people for information about me.

    And the police have a pretty detailed sheet of this guy did the same to a number of people, including another member of the blackjack/AP community that isn't one of my favorite people. This person also has a pretty good rap sheet, including assault. Anyone who doesn't take THIS kind of threat seriously is asking for trouble in today's world.
    About Moses, Moses DID actually pose a real threat to you, KewlJ...:/ He got banned after asking on how to find you and at FIRST pretended he had good intentions and just wanted to have dinner with you and shoot the breeze with you. At least one very observant Poster said something like,"I am getting a very "Uh oh," vibe from Moses's seemingly innocent request. Please no one actually give Moses information on how to find KewlJ. I have a feeling he'll hurt KewlJ if he actually finds him in the real world." Moses later admitted that his "Innocent" post wasn't really all that innocent at all and he actually wanted to find you to kick your ass. That observant Poster was right and Moses was banned for plotting to beat someone up.
    I remember Moses wanting to track me down as well. He threatened me like he does alot of people. I never once thought about running to the police.
    People pretty much bring on their own problems. KewlJ continues to want to poke the head of the snake and wonders why he is being threatened with getting bit. Then when he gets scared he runs to the police and wants them to do his bidding.

    #neverKewlJsFault

    #AlwaysTHEvictim

  14. #174
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I also am not a big gun guy. I believe in the second amendment and people right to have guns, not sure the forefathers envisioned assault rifles , but I don't want to get too political. Anyway until a few years ago, I personally just didn't want to own a gun. It just wasn't the way I wanted to live. But that has changed in the past few years, not 100% specific to this situation, also just the world we live in.

    So if you own a gun as I do and you defend yourself and again this isn't specific to this situation, even if someone breaks into your home and you shoot them, you kind are the one that has to prove you were justisfied and did nothing wrong. (screwed up world in which we live).

    So anyone that has a situation like I have described is well advised to contact the police and file a report. Should the worse case scenario occur and you are forced to do what you need to do to defend yourself, that report acts as protection for you in proving you were justified.
    With the ability to lash out without forethought owning a gun might not be the best thing for you. But I believe everyone should exercise their right. Hopefully you will not become a statistic that allows others to attack the right to bear arms further.
    Boy you really are a fucking douchebag. I bet you think it's a good idea for people like Singer to own a gun. Don't get me wrong I understand why people like him would own guns. He's a keyboard warrior who is scared like shit in real life and needs to bring a gun to a fist fight because he's nothing more than an old has been. Singer has made a lot of enemies during the last couple of decades so I can understand he's looking over his shoulder everywhere he goes. I never heard you make similar remarks to Singer about his gun ownership. And he lashes out plenty....and crawls back under his rock when the heat is starting to bother him.
    Last edited by Vegas_lover; 09-04-2019 at 01:40 PM.

  15. #175
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    I know arguing with you about your behavior and conduct is fruitless. Like Axel says, "you always have to have the last word". But seriously, you really need to take an introspective look at your behavior and realize how it is coming across to others.
    What is the deal MaxPen. You get to say something or make a point and I am not allowed to respond? I thought we were having a civil conversation here today....nobody has turned up the heat or rhetoric...we are just talking. What is the problem?

    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Another irony in your post is Moses still remains a member of WoV in good standing.
    This IS actually a pretty funny Irony, MaxPen.

    Opponents or people taking shots at me like to say that I am banned at all kinds of forums. Norm frequently says I am banned at 6 forums. The truth is that I am banned at 2, Norm's (BJTF) and Mike's (WoV) and come on, I don't think anyone being even slightly objective wont say that wasn't Norm's doing and intent. But whatever. 2 is the actual number.

    Moses has been banned at least 4 forums that I can think of and all for the same exact reason. So you are correct that the one single forum that he is not banned from is WoV. BUT, what does he have like 8 posts or something. He doesn't post there (at least not under his Moses handle). He is forum-savy enough to have recognized that WOV is one if not the most over-moderated forums (would you agree?) and smart enough to know that his shit would not be tolerated there.

    But I will tell you what, if you want to get one of your moderator friends over at WoV to check IP addresses from Moses few posts and from "sidthesquids" posts, that would be the person at WoV requesting personal information on me that Mike banned....well lets just say "If I were a betting man". Seriously, if not a direct IP match the IP will be from Reno, maybe some public wifi like a sportsbook.

    BABS: If you are reading....get on this!
    Last edited by kewlJ; 09-04-2019 at 01:42 PM.

  16. #176
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I also am not a big gun guy. I believe in the second amendment and people right to have guns, not sure the forefathers envisioned assault rifles , but I don't want to get too political. Anyway until a few years ago, I personally just didn't want to own a gun. It just wasn't the way I wanted to live. But that has changed in the past few years, not 100% specific to this situation, also just the world we live in.

    So if you own a gun as I do and you defend yourself and again this isn't specific to this situation, even if someone breaks into your home and you shoot them, you kind are the one that has to prove you were justisfied and did nothing wrong. (screwed up world in which we live).

    So anyone that has a situation like I have described is well advised to contact the police and file a report. Should the worse case scenario occur and you are forced to do what you need to do to defend yourself, that report acts as protection for you in proving you were justified.
    With the ability to lash out without forethought owning a gun might not be the best thing for you. But I believe everyone should exercise their right. Hopefully you will not become a statistic that allows others to attack the right to bear arms further.
    Boy you really are a fucking douchebag. I bet you think it's a good idea for people like Singer to own a gun. Don't get me wrong I understand why people like him would own guns. He's a keyboard warrior who is scared like shit in real life and needs to bring a gun to a fist fight because he's nothing more than an old has been. Singer has made a lot of enemies during the last couple of decades so I can understand he's looking over his shoulder everywhere he goes. I never heard you make similar remarks to Singer about his gun ownership. And he lashes out plenty....and crawls back under his rock when the heat is starting to bother him.
    I was not talking to Singer. Am I supposed to give my opinion on the entire forum roster when addressing one person?

  17. #177
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    I know arguing with you about your behavior and conduct is fruitless. Like Axel says, "you always have to have the last word". But seriously, you really need to take an introspective look at your behavior and realize how it is coming across to others.
    What is the deal MaxPen. You get to say something or make a point and I am not allowed to respond? I thought we were having a civil conversation here today....nobody has turned up the heat or rhetoric...we are just talking. What is the problem?

    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Another irony in your post is Moses still remains a member of WoV in good standing.
    This IS actually a pretty funny Irony, MaxPen.

    Opponents or people taking shots at me like to say that I am banned at all kinds of forums. Norm frequently says I am banned at 6 forums. The truth is that I am banned at 2, Norm's (BJTF) and Mike's (WoV) and come on, I don't think anyone being even slightly objective wont say that wasn't Norm's doing and intent. But whatever. 2 is the actual number.

    Moses has been banned at least 4 forums that I can think of and all for the same exact reason. So you are correct that the one single forum that he is not banned from is WoV. BUT, what does he have like 8 posts or something. He doesn't post there (at least not under his Moses handle). He is forum-savy enough to have recognized that WOV is one if not the most over-moderated forums (would you agree?) and smart enough to know that his shit would not be tolerated there.

    But I will tell you what, if you want to get one of your moderator friends over at WoV to check IP addresses from Moses few posts and from "sidthesquids" posts, that would be the person at WoV requesting personal information on me that Mike banned....well lets just say "If I were a betting man". Seriously, if not a direct IP match the IP will be from Reno, maybe some public wifi like a sportsbook.

    BABS: If you are reading....get on this!
    You most certainly can respond. It is expected that you will. You're not known as "Last Word KJ" for nothing.

    I was just pointing out that I will not argue every last detail with you because it is fruitless. You are not going to agree with what alot of people see. So it is pointless.

  18. #178
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post

    With the ability to lash out without forethought owning a gun might not be the best thing for you. But I believe everyone should exercise their right. Hopefully you will not become a statistic that allows others to attack the right to bear arms further.
    Boy you really are a fucking douchebag. I bet you think it's a good idea for people like Singer to own a gun. Don't get me wrong I understand why people like him would own guns. He's a keyboard warrior who is scared like shit in real life and needs to bring a gun to a fist fight because he's nothing more than an old has been. Singer has made a lot of enemies during the last couple of decades so I can understand he's looking over his shoulder everywhere he goes. I never heard you make similar remarks to Singer about his gun ownership. And he lashes out plenty....and crawls back under his rock when the heat is starting to bother him.
    I was not talking to Singer. Am I supposed to give my opinion on the entire forum roster when addressing one person?
    How convenient. It's no secret you're not a Kew fan and so you make a lame ass idiotic remark to him about gun ownership. You could have said the same thing to Singer for years but somehow you never did. Who the fuck are you to give him unsollicited advice? You don't like the guy? Fine. Why don't you just mind your own friggin business like you do with others? It's pretty obvious a couple of you idiots are constant tag teaming against Kew to insult him or piss him off. Fucking babies!! I don't agree with everything he says or does but some of you (including you) like to continue your juvenile shit and it's pretty transparant and pathetic.

  19. #179
    Here's another question for you MaxPen, since you are the WoV rep here.

    About 3 weeks ago, maybe a month, Midwest Player who is a member here and also a longtime member, but infrequent poster at WoV, started a threat at WoV, I forget the exact title (probably buried 9 or 10 pages deep in the current thread board) that had my name (KJ) in the title. He even said something to the effect that he hoped he wasn't breaking any rules but wanted to know if it was possible to get me re-instated. Within minutes he was nuked.

    I mean frankly if he had asked I would have advise MWP not to do that...mentioning my name is toxic. But he didn't ask and I feel sort of bad. Mike's reason given was that MWP was a sockpuppet but he didn't say who. I get the feeling Mike thinks it was me, but MWP is an a longtime time low limit (not professional) card counter, from obviously the Midwest. He participates on Norm's forum, Blackjack info, BJ21 (<- do you participate here MWP). I have known him since I started participating on my first forum the old blackjackinfo. He is a legit low level AP and definitely not me. He plays the middwest, I think trips to Wendover and Laughlin....places like that. Reno MWP?

    And while he sometimes is a little annoying, he likes to bitch about his 9 months of winter and digging out from 6 feet of snow every week, I Think Mike made a mistake on this one. (I have heard he sometimes does). Come to think of it I believe Axel commented that night Mike may have made a mistake.

    So what happened was the next morning was the "new Rules" day at WoV and this little incident got buried. I would think some of you guys that know better should speak up on his behalf. RS_, come on you know MWP....you might be one that finds him annoying, but you know he is legit.

    And if MWP is a sockpuppet of someone else, for god sakes tell us who, because he has managed to pull it off for 10+ years on multiple forums.

    That is my good deed for the day MWP. That's all I can do.

  20. #180
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Vegas_lover View Post

    Boy you really are a fucking douchebag. I bet you think it's a good idea for people like Singer to own a gun. Don't get me wrong I understand why people like him would own guns. He's a keyboard warrior who is scared like shit in real life and needs to bring a gun to a fist fight because he's nothing more than an old has been. Singer has made a lot of enemies during the last couple of decades so I can understand he's looking over his shoulder everywhere he goes. I never heard you make similar remarks to Singer about his gun ownership. And he lashes out plenty....and crawls back under his rock when the heat is starting to bother him.
    I was not talking to Singer. Am I supposed to give my opinion on the entire forum roster when addressing one person?
    How convenient. It's no secret you're not a Kew fan and so you make a lame ass idiotic remark to him about gun ownership. You could have said the same thing to Singer for years but somehow you never did. Who the fuck are you to give him unsollicited advice? You don't like the guy? Fine. Why don't you just mind your own friggin business like you do with others? It's pretty obvious a couple of you idiots are constant tag teaming against Kew to insult him or piss him off. Fucking babies!! I don't agree with everything he says or does but some of you (including you) like to continue your juvenile shit and it's pretty transparant and pathetic.
    Boy are you a confused one....lol

    I don't think I have ever disagreed with KJ much about anything. I have always liked KJ. I haven't disagreed with much up until his outburst about revealing another AP and now some of his defense attempts.
    I believe KJ would say that I have always been a friend. Atleast as much as one can be that basically only knows someone from a forum.
    Not sure what your hangup about Singer is. Do I need to go digging up some Cousin Eddie trailer pics and post them to make you happy?

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