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  1. #21
    KewlJ, are you sure this rant you just did against Dan Druff won't make you cringe in remorse tomorrow after you've gotten a clearer and calmer head? As a Friend of yours, I'd say EDIT while you still have an open edit window. You still have about 30 minutes left to edit your rant post.

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    KewlJ, are you sure this rant you just did against Dan Druff won't make you cringe in remorse tomorrow after you've gotten a clearer and calmer head? As a Friend of yours, I'd say EDIT while you still have an open edit window. You still have about 30 minutes left to edit your rant post.
    Tasha when someone allows the hate to be spewed that Dan Druff allows, he is a racist and bigot. And not just about me but numerous members. Go back and read the statement from when Dan Druff banned Rob Singer. He banned him for repeated unacceptable racist attacks. And then 6 months later he reversed and allowed him back. That reversal, and not keeping Rob Singer in check as Dan promised in that reversal is Dan Druff in no uncertain terms endorsing that kind of racist and bigoted behavior.

    There has been exactly one time since I have been here that Dan though such a bigoted comment was out of line and that was when a hateful comment was made about Jews, because he is jewish. So no, I don't regret these comments. Dan Druff wondered why I had no interest in meeting with him, so I am telling him why. Because he is a bigot. Allowing that hate that Dan Druff does, makes him no different than the person spewing the hate.

  3. #23
    I don't assume every gay guy wants me. I never said that.

    In fact, given the incredible focus upon youth in the gay community (even more than in the hetero world), I think I'm too old for most gay guys to find attractive.

    Anyway, kewl, you freak out about every little thing. Everyone tells you this, but you don't believe them. You really need to lighten up.
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  4. #24
    So funny that kew uses his diversion of "race & bigotry" for an answer on why he wasn't willing to meet up with Dan. More like he was too cowardly because he didn't want to expose his fabricated internet forum life to anyone....lest his house of cards come tumbling down.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I don't assume every gay guy wants me. I never said that.

    In fact, given the incredible focus upon youth in the gay community (even more than in the hetero world), I think I'm too old for most gay guys to find attractive.

    Anyway, kewl, you freak out about every little thing. Everyone tells you this, but you don't believe them. You really need to lighten up.

    You know, I'm really, really busy, but I read Dan's comment that kewlJ went off on last night, and I was tempted to answer because Dan's remark was, shall we say, a bit discordant. Now I'm a guy who thinks political correctness has gone way, way overboard, and the social justice thing has gotten out of control and all that, so bear that in mind. I have a handful of lesbian friends and am not close to any gay guys. Anyway, if I had said this, I think it might have helped defuse the situation. I'll quote Dan in the following post.
    Last edited by redietz; 09-09-2019 at 07:18 AM.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Tasha, MaxPen just wants to be damned sure that I know he will never view me the same again and will never trust me. So just let him just say his peice. Nothing really has changed, because it is not like I was ever going to meet and hang out with any of these guys like MaxPen, Axel, ect (wizard's gang). I have lived in Vegas for 10 years. I was on WoV for 4 years and on other forums with them since. I mean 10 years, as a fulltime AP living in Vegas and participating on the same forums. Not once has anyone ever asked if I wanted to attend anything or hangout. Never a "hey a few of us are getting together for a couple beer. Is that something you would be interested in?" All I ever got was homophobic slurs and jokes.

    I even contacted Axelwolf, after Zenking moved to Vegas and was struggling so much, asking if there wasn't something he could do to help out Zenking, because I wanted Zenking to succeed. To his credit Axel, I guess Monet, probably MaxPen and some others had either just met up with Zenking or were about to. Either way, no invite as to whether I was interested in joining that or any other time. I never felt welcome with this crew. So MaxPen and Axelwolf will never trust me again. Again? As if any of them ever offered me any kind of friendship ever.
    KewlJ you have always made it very clear that you never wanted to meet up with anyone from the forums. There was never anything stopping you from coming to a WoV spring thing or whatever. You're now again reading into stuff that is not there. As usual.
    That's exactly what I thought when I read this.

    At one point when kewlJ brought up those blackjack shufflers possibly cheating, and claimed he had a machine with which he could prove it, I told him I wanted to meet with him to see it.

    I promised to keep his identity secret, and in fact told him he didn't even need to tell me his identity. He declined. I can respect his desire for anonymity, but when you desire such anonymity, you can't complain when people don't invite you out socially.

    I don't think it has anything to do with you being gay. I have arranged to meet gay people in person from my other forum, and I had no concern about their sexuality. In general, I think that most gay guys will be respectful enough not to put the moves on me if they know I'm straight, so I don't worry about it.

    You, know, Dan, I feel exactly the same way. I have arranged to meet Jews in person from other forums, and I had no concern about them wanting me to pick up the tab if we had dinner or coffee or whatever. In general, I think that most Jews will be respectful enough to not ignore the check if they know I'm not a Jew, so I don't worry about it.


    Now, is that funny? I guess it depends if you're Jewish and/or have a sense of humor. The point is, Dan clearly doesn't hang with the letter crowd (I still do not know what the hell the Q stands for) or read up on it too often. Not that there's anything wrong with that, to quote Seinfeld.

    Anyway, I'm not exactly a metrosexual hip-to-the-letters dude myself, but Dan's response above was so off-key (maybe even deaf) and potentially insulting, that I thought it was funny. So my inclination was to respond with some kind of semi-funny dig, but it was Sunday night, and I stayed up until 4:30 AM EST for the damn Hawaii game the night before, and I thought maybe somebody else would take Dan to task other than kewlJ.

    See, in some sick way, I care about you guys (well, with one exception). Dan, that answer was so bad that it was almost hilarious. Now some people get really pissed off when it's pointed out that they're tone deaf for whatever reason. But I gotta say -- Dan that was really fucking tone deaf!

    KewlJ, I'm sorry I didn't respond immediately, but I think Dan didn't mean it exactly like it sounded. Sometimes you try to speak Greek, and you speak Assyrian, you know?

    Anyway, my two cents. Yeah, Dan ain't running for president of the Rotary Gays anytime soon. KewlJ, I don't think he meant it as bad as it sounded, and I'm sorry I didn't take it into some kind of humorous direction immediately, because I should have.

  7. #27
    Males are disgusting, ugly creatures. If I we're a woman, I'd be a lesbian. I don't even like seeing men in porn. I prefer just women!

  8. #28
    Dan Druff=wrote:

    I don't think it has anything to do with you being gay. I have arranged to meet gay people in person from my other forum, and I had no concern about their sexuality. In general, I think that most gay guys will be respectful enough not to put the moves on me if they know I'm straight, so I don't worry about it.


    Dan, try not to pretend that you just made an innocent Gomer Pyle joke without knowing what you were really saying. Your reputation of condoning almost everything said, seems to indicate that you enjoy provoking as much as seeing provications from others under your watch. Clearly unprofessional behavior on your part.
    Last edited by BoSox; 09-09-2019 at 08:26 AM.

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Males are disgusting, ugly creatures. If I we're a woman, I'd be a lesbian. I don't even like seeing men in porn. I prefer just women!
    Exactly my sentiment.

  10. #30
    Where do you stand on the donkey?

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I don't assume every gay guy wants me. I never said that.

    In fact, given the incredible focus upon youth in the gay community (even more than in the hetero world), I think I'm too old for most gay guys to find attractive.

    Anyway, kewl, you freak out about every little thing. Everyone tells you this, but you don't believe them. You really need to lighten up.
    Dan Druff, this isn't about me being gay. And I am not black, so it is not about me taking racist comments personally.

    These are comments by people who are afraid of and demonize anyone who is different them themselves, race, nationality, sexuality. And when this kind of hate is allowed to exist and grow, and those not the target sit and say nothing, we have seen what occurs. This is exactly what occurred in Germany. Perhaps good advice to the Jew, Polish and Gays being marched to the ovens would have been "lighten up".

    Now I don't know Todd (Dan Druff) personally, so I can't say for sure whether racism and bigotry that he allows is really who he is. But this forum is listed on at least two national registries of forums that allow and promote racist and hate speech. If I was the owner of this forum and sole administrator, and this perception did not reflect who I am, I would have to take a real look at how this came to be, what message I was sending (or not sending) that allowed this to happen.

    I mean this is supposed to be a forum on gambling related topics. GAMBLING! I challenge someone's gambling claims, that are mathematically impossible, I believe you yourself (Dan Druff) described Rob's claim as "all but impossible". And that person attacks back with attacks about a person's dead spouse having died of aids? And not just me, attacks of this nature on 3 different members late spouses. He has also made suggestions of me having sex with my brother and mother. All because his math doesn't work proving his claim bullshit.

    And now "spook reparations". Really Todd?

    YOU allowed this Dan Druff. You and you alone are responsible.

    #EVILtriumpsWHENgoodMENdoNOTHING
    Last edited by kewlJ; 09-09-2019 at 08:59 AM.

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Dan Druff=wrote:

    I don't think it has anything to do with you being gay. I have arranged to meet gay people in person from my other forum, and I had no concern about their sexuality. In general, I think that most gay guys will be respectful enough not to put the moves on me if they know I'm straight, so I don't worry about it.


    Dan, try not to pretend that you just made an innocent Gomer Pyle joke without knowing what you were really saying. Your reputation of condoning almost everything said, seems to indicate that you enjoy provoking as much as seeing provications from others under your watch. Clearly unprofessional behaviour on your part.
    Looks like a few of you are being controlled by the media-driven agenda that tries so hard to shove all this gay stuff in our faces. You can't turn on any of the new TV shows or movies or go to any type of play or show these days without having to endure the natural disgust of fags being trotted out for all to be 'in awe of".

    Besides, kew wasn't scolded for being a homo--it was because he's a phony and an idiot. But it gave social justice warrior redietz an opportunity to do what he always does: make believe he's "not really all that much into" this or that, yet in his very next statement proceeds to show his true colors. Liberal's disease personified....a side effect of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

  13. #33
    Redietz, the Q in LGBTQ stands for either Queen or Queer. The FLAMBOYANT Gays who wear pastels, neon bright colors, talk like,"Daaaling, you look mahvelous...." They speak with a lisp and are just full of life. So, pretty much the stereotypical out there Gays in Sitcoms and movies. Jack from Will And Grace would be considered a Queen/Queer. However, straight laced, uptight, Will would just be considered Gay. By looking at Will many people would assume that he is Straight. By looking at Jack many people would assume that he is Gay. On a side note,"Queen and Queer when used to describe THEMSELVES and other Gays is an affectionate term of Empowerment and Pride. But say a Straight man calling them Queer/Queen could be seen as
    offensive and derogatory slurs.

    Edit. Google also says that the Q stands for Questioning which means a person just might have feelongs for the same sex but is confused on what to do or feel.

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Redietz, the Q in LGBTQ stands for either Queen or Queer.
    No it doesn't! It stands for questioning.

    I personally, don't support or even understand most of those groups that those letter represent. Questioning? who cares? Bisexual. If this even exists it is very rare. For the most part guys that use the label bisexual, just haven't accepted that they are gay. And transgender? I will plead politically incorrect on this one. I don't get it and it makes me very uncomfortable.

    Oh and Lesbians....they scare the shit out of me.

    I also don't like effeminate gay guys. Being gay doesn't mean you are or act like a women. It means you are attracted to men. I am a man and I am attracted to men. And I don't like shopping, or musicals and I love sports. And I like other guys that like sports.

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Redietz, the Q in LGBTQ stands for either Queen or Queer.
    No it doesn't! It stands for questioning.

    I personally, don't support or even understand most of those groups that those letter represent. Questioning? who cares? Bisexual. If this even exists it is very rare. For the most part guys that use the label bisexual, just haven't accepted that they are gay. And transgender? I will plead politically incorrect on this one. I don't get it and it makes me very uncomfortable.

    Oh and Lesbians....they scare the shit out of me.

    I also don't like effeminate gay guys. Being gay doesn't mean you are or act like a women. It means you are attracted to men. I am a man and I am attracted to men. And I don't like shopping, or musicals and I love sports. And I like other guys that like sports.
    Shortly after I said that Q meant Queen/Queer, I visited Google which said that Q also meant Questioning. I even edited my post to reflect the fact.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Shortly after I said that Q meant Queen/Queer, I visited Google which said that Q also meant Questioning. I even edited my post to reflect the fact.
    Queer and/or queen makes zero sense Tasha. Those are just slang for gay which is already included.

    Adding a Q for queer or queen would be like adding a second "N" for nigger to the NAACP. National association for the advancement of colored people and niggers. Does that make sense to you Tasha
    I already said the difference between Gay and Queer/Queen. Gay is the guy who is straight laced and uptight and comes off as Straight whereas Queen/Queer is the giy who is Flamboyant and effeminate. The Transgender often overlaps with the Queen/Queer.
    Last edited by Tasha; 09-09-2019 at 09:38 AM.

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Dan Druff=wrote:

    I don't think it has anything to do with you being gay. I have arranged to meet gay people in person from my other forum, and I had no concern about their sexuality. In general, I think that most gay guys will be respectful enough not to put the moves on me if they know I'm straight, so I don't worry about it.


    Dan, try not to pretend that you just made an innocent Gomer Pyle joke without knowing what you were really saying. Your reputation of condoning almost everything said, seems to indicate that you enjoy provoking as much as seeing provications from others under your watch. Clearly unprofessional behavior on your part.
    Huh, I didn't even consider this. I just assume people aren't doing tricky dog whistle stuff. Thanks for pointing out that I might have been very naïve.

    I also didn't know this site was listed for being a hate speech site. That may help explain Mr. Mendelson's disengagement.

    One thing that has struck me lately. I had assumed, incorrectly as it turned out, that the WoV site had some "left" bias to it. I had never participated there, but after signing up and posting 50 times, it was clear that the most frequent posters were all "right" leaning. My assumptions regarding the site had been colored by what "Singer" and mickey had posted here. The mods may come off as left at WoV, but that's because they are continually reigning in the right leaning posters.

    Maybe Dan's tone deaf post was purposeful. I guess it would be difficult to be that bad by accident. Hell, I don't know. I have never checked Todd's other forum, so I don't know anything about his political and social inclinations. I am surprised as to how many people about 90% out there on the right side of the social bell curve perceive themselves as middle of the road. These misperceptions seem to be mainly a male thing.

  18. #38
    I guess this is the perfect opportunity to tell about a true incident that occurred last week as I was trying to outrace the hurricane in Florida.

    My wife and I stayed in Roswell, Ga (Atlanta area) for 2 1/2 days with my wife's former college roommate. I had not seen the wife and husband for at least two decades. We had always gotten along fine. On Saturday afternoon we ended up at a higher end sports bar to watch college football. I had to hit the restroom and proceed to follow the signs. Ultimately I found the hallway that had the restroom doors. All three doors had gold metal symbols to identify the bathrooms. The problem was the first one had a male, a female, and a wheelchair symbol. Then I noticed that the other two bathrooms had the same three symbols. At that moment, am employee saw me with a quizzical look on my face. He stated that all bathrooms are unisex. To make humor of the moment, I replied, "But I am transgender.". The employee replied, 'I will have to talk to the manager.".

    I raced through my bathroom visit and raced back to the table. While my wife was less than pleased, the other couple laughed their asses off.

  19. #39
    Well played Dan, traffic is up again.

  20. #40
    redietz wrote:

    . I am surprised as to how many people about 90% out there on the right side of the social bell curve perceive themselves as middle of the road. These misperceptions seem to be mainly a male thing.


    You are off again, as 90% of the people on the supposed right side of the bell curve ARE IN FACT MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. All of the movement, extreme as it is, is from the socialist left party side of the bell curve.

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