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  1. #21
    But redietz “knows precisely” that Rob owned machines. Lol! Just another case of faulty memory that always supports his narrative.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    But redietz “knows precisely” that Rob owned machines. Lol! Just another case of faulty memory that always supports his narrative.

    Well, I gave myself 10 minutes -- and I never search this forum, but here's one:

    Post 25, dated 2/16/2012, of a thread started by Alan Mendelson titled, "Rigged machines, programmed cold cycles, and server based technology."

    You know, mickey, I guess if you wanted to find one of these, it would probably require looking. Just a tip, from me to you.

    My guesstimate is there's a couple dozen references to "Singer" acquiring machines and stashing them at his house (or the famous storage locker in Arizona). Now 10 minutes is all I'm wasting on this nonsense. I'm sure mickey could track down others, if he were, shall we say, motivated. And if Spock reads this, he may put together a nice sampling. But me, I'm with kewlJ, this is all a waste of time. Nobody could buy into the "Singer" current narrative, and I know. I prefer to.

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    But redietz “knows precisely” that Rob owned machines. Lol! Just another case of faulty memory that always supports his narrative.

    Well, I gave myself 10 minutes -- and I never search this forum, but here's one:

    Post 25, dated 2/16/2012, of a thread started by Alan Mendelson titled, "Rigged machines, programmed cold cycles, and server based technology."

    You know, mickey, I guess if you wanted to find one of these, it would probably require looking. Just a tip, from me to you.

    My guesstimate is there's a couple dozen references to "Singer" acquiring machines and stashing them at his house (or the famous storage locker in Arizona). Now 10 minutes is all I'm wasting on this nonsense. I'm sure mickey could track down others, if he were, shall we say, motivated. And if Spock reads this, he may put together a nice sampling. But me, I'm with kewlJ, this is all a waste of time. Nobody could buy into the "Singer" current narrative, and I know. I prefer to.
    You know, redietz, I guess if you wanted me to read it you would have put up a link. Just a tip from me to you.

    So you are with KJ? This is all a waste of time. You and KJ sure are spending a lot of time on something that is a waste of time. Just sayin.'
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 09-23-2019 at 10:44 PM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I'm not saying this happen or I think it happen, but one could find and old machine for sale that never had the update. IIRC Rob has claimed to have bought machines before. If I was really looking for the bug and wanted to peruse this, that's exactly what I would do. The bug has appeared in casinos in the last few years or so, and not just in some small obscure location.
    Interesting post by Axelwolf. Seems like maybe someone figured out how Rob learned of the play before I did.

    Please note the line where Axel says "IIRC Rob has claimed to have bought machines before." What are the chances that we all are mis-rembering Rob talking about buying machines?

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I'm not saying this happen or I think it happen, but one could find and old machine for sale that never had the update. IIRC Rob has claimed to have bought machines before. If I was really looking for the bug and wanted to peruse this, that's exactly what I would do. The bug has appeared in casinos in the last few years or so, and not just in some small obscure location.
    Interesting post by Axelwolf. Seems like maybe someone figured out how Rob learned of the play before I did.

    Please note the line where Axel says "IIRC Rob has claimed to have bought machines before." What are the chances that we all are mis-rembering Rob talking about buying machines?
    Inspector KJ Clouseau, you and Inspector Redietz Clouseau, are a couple of asshats when it comes in investigative skills. In a word you two, SUCK at it.

    1. In post #18 of this thread Rob said he had access to a machine a few months before it was to be installed at Aliante Station when they opened in 2008. He said he had access. He did not say he bought it.

    2. Inspector Redietz Clouseau told me to search out the Rigged Machines thread started by Alan in 2012. Well, I just did. In post #25 of that thread, dated 2-16-2012, Rob said "so I found a backdoor way of getting a brand new machine into my home for three months."

    What Rob wrote in post #18 here fits with what he wrote in post #25 of the Rigged Machine thread in 2012.

    KJ, you two idiots cherry pick facts that support you idiotic narratives. I don't know if you two just ignore contradictory evidence, it just goes over your heads or what. So let me point something out to you. I know you haven't noticed it yet because you two clowns are to dumb to see it. So I will point it out very specifically so maybe you two will get it through your thick skulls:

    Rob made the post in the Rigged Machines thread on 2-16-2012. What is that, more than a year before the Kane & Nestor story broke in 2013. Your whole narrative has been that Rob learned about the glitch in 2013 then "bought a machine" to figure out the glitch.

    Rob making that post in Feb. 2012 means he had the machine in his home sometime prior to that date. Was it in 2008? Probably was. In other words, Rob studied a machine long before the Kane & Nestor story broke.

    You two assclowns need to find something else to do. Your investigative skills SUCK.

    Link to the Rigged Machines thread:

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...zsOQ9J2WHMu-97

    And was Rob really looking for hot and cold cycles with the RNG? I doubt it. He was probably looking for more glitches.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 09-23-2019 at 11:37 PM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  6. #26
    I am not talking about "access to a machine". Numerous times Rob has mentioned that he bought and owned machines (I believe 2). Axelwolf makes at least 3 of us that remember him mentioning this. What are the chances all 3 of us are wrong?

    I am just not going to waste anymore time on this mickeycrimm. You have made your deal with Rob to back him up on everything he says....the same role Alan used to play. That is on you, but I am not going to play these games that Rob has played for decades and you are now joining him in playing.

  7. #27
    Mickey you keep referring to me and Redietz as Inspector Clouseau, well here is one for you mickeycrimm Clouseau.

    Early this year you posted screenshots of 2 different complaints against Rob. I don't feel comfortable re-posting because it has his address. One was from 2005, which would have been 2 years into his $500,000 per year double up bug play. The second, a judgement for $958 in 2011, which would have been 2 years AFTER he made 2.8 million playing the double up, from an apartment complex, which happen to match Rob's address on the complaint.

    I mean first off, who has these kind of minor legal judgements, and costs and hassles associated with them when the are sitting on 3 million dollars?

    Second, Did you google the apartment complex and unit listed as Rob's address? 1 bedroom, 700 square feet, renting for $1100 now, so it is safe to assume that $958 in 2011 was Rob's rent. He couldn't afford to pay his rent in 2011, but was sitting on 2.8 million?

    And where the hell are these houses (plural) that he supposedly bought for cash. 2011, 2 years after the double up, he is living in a fairly small apartment.

    This truce and agreement you have with Rob is all fine and good. But sometimes you have to add 2+2 and get 4.

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Mickey you keep referring to me and Redietz as Inspector Clouseau, well here is one for you mickeycrimm Clouseau.

    Early this year you posted screenshots of 2 different complaints against Rob. I don't feel comfortable re-posting because it has his address. One was from 2005, which would have been 2 years into his $500,000 per year double up bug play. The second, a judgement for $958 in 2011, which would have been 2 years AFTER he made 2.8 million playing the double up, from an apartment complex, which happen to match Rob's address on the complaint.

    I mean first off, who has these kind of minor legal judgements, and costs and hassles associated with them when the are sitting on 3 million dollars?

    Second, Did you google the apartment complex and unit listed as Rob's address? 1 bedroom, 700 square feet, renting for $1100 now, so it is safe to assume that $958 in 2011 was Rob's rent. He couldn't afford to pay his rent in 2011, but was sitting on 2.8 million?

    And where the hell are these houses (plural) that he supposedly bought for cash. 2011, 2 years after the double up, he is living in a fairly small apartment.

    This truce and agreement you have with Rob is all fine and good. But sometimes you have to add 2+2 and get 4.
    Sure I put all that up. I was trolling Rob hard at that time. But in the end do I really take the sides of landlords. Hell no! Most of them are the slimeballs of society.

    You just ignored all the evidence I put up in my previous post. That's what you do. If it doesn't fit your narrative you ignore it.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 09-24-2019 at 01:29 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Sure I put all that up. I was trolling Rob hard at that time. But you just ignored all the evidence I put up in my previous post. That's what you do. If it doesn't fit your narrative you ignore it.
    I don't see anything in the 2012 thread talking about the double up bug? The thread seems to be talking about rigged machines as in Rob's long-time unsubstantiated claim that machines aren't random. If there is mention of the double up bug and Rob knowing the sequence in that thread, please direct me to it.

    "you were trolling Rob hard at that time". What does this mean mickey....you made this stuff including screenshot of legal complaints up? If that is what you are saying then you are as screwed up and completely uncredible as Rob. If you are not saying you made it up and it is real, then again, does this make sense to you. Guy wins 2.8 million from 2004 thru 2009 and in 2011 can't pay the rent on his 1 bedroom, 700 square foot apartment. This adds up to you?

  10. #30
    Mickey, I am going to lay this out for you one last time...the entire time line, the Entire Rob Singer Story.

    1990 -1996, Rob attempts to play video poker with an advantage. By his numbers he lost 45/k a year for 6 years, or $270,000.

    1996. Rob files for bankruptcy, wiping out a quarter million dollars in debt. Rob proudly proclaims bankruptcy to be a "wealth building tool". It is no coin incidence the amount of debt he ran up is basically what he lost in the previous 6 years, making his statement that the $270k lost was no big deal and about a half of years salary completely absurd. This is also 100% the behavior of a degenerate gambling addict. Run up huge debt gambling, every dollar you can get your hands on and then file for bankruptcy.

    1996 -1999. I don't know what occurred during these years. Rob says this was the time he came up with his "magical" SPS, progressive wagering, stop limit system.

    1999 - 2009. Rob writes a column for a weekly gambling paper. He also begins his claim that he played this math defying SPS system for 10 years, winning 1.5 million dollars. This SPS claim was later amended downwards to 4 years and the double up bug claim, replaced the final 5 years.

    2009. Not sure when Rob's "gig" as a non paid columnist at the gambling paper, came to an end, but in 2009 he announces his retirement.

    2011. Rob has a legal judgement against him from the apartment complex that he lives in for $958, which is likely his rent amount, meaning he didn't pay his rent on his small one bedroom apartment, which is inexplicable for someone that just won 2.8 million dollars.

    2013. The Nestor/Kane article in Wired magazine comes out. In a discussion on this forum Rob states that what Kane/Nestor did was illegal. Something someone who had also done this play, would never say. That is admitting you knew it was illegal and would open you up to more legal trouble if you were to be caught.

    2013 or sometime there after. Using the sequence from the Wired article Rob is able to figure out the correct sequence on a machine that he owns.

    2019. Rob steals the Nestor/Kane claim as his own, amending his claims from 1999 - 2009, flip flopping earlier statements and positions, and seeks a platform with either GWAE or Shackleford to tell his "story".

    This is the story of a degenerate gambler who lost all his money, ran up huge debt, filed for bankruptcy, couldn't pay his rent, had legal judgements against him, had a vendetta against Bob Dancer, just because he was successful at what Rob wanted to do and trolled the AP community and successful AP's for 20 years, making fantastic claims that fly in the face of the math, escalating and altering those claims as time went on. And that is where we are now.

    Now that is all I can do. Anyone who still wants to believe the earth is flat.....believe the earth is flat. I can't stop you.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Sure I put all that up. I was trolling Rob hard at that time. But you just ignored all the evidence I put up in my previous post. That's what you do. If it doesn't fit your narrative you ignore it.
    I don't see anything in the 2012 thread talking about the double up bug? The thread seems to be talking about rigged machines as in Rob's long-time unsubstantiated claim that machines aren't random. If there is mention of the double up bug and Rob knowing the sequence in that thread, please direct me to it.

    "you were trolling Rob hard at that time". What does this mean mickey....you made this stuff including screenshot of legal complaints up? If that is what you are saying then you are as screwed up and completely uncredible as Rob. If you are not saying you made it up and it is real, then again, does this make sense to you. Guy wins 2.8 million from 2004 thru 2009 and in 2011 can't pay the rent on his 1 bedroom, 700 square foot apartment. This adds up to you?
    Inspector KJ Clouseau, what is it about truth and honesty that you find so deplorable? You keep accusing me of forming alliances, lacking in credibility, and no longer worth the benefit of the doubt. You have obviously been trying to shame me into changing my opinion for some time now. It hasn't changed and will never change based on your deplorable tactics. My opinion is it is highly likely Rob put this play down. That's the truth as I know it. It's not based in an alliance. Just my honest opinion.

    Your misguided opinions, on the other hand, are based in your animosity toward Singer. You ignore evidence that supports his claim and come up with all kinds of wild stuff that you think supports your narrative. And you have no problem casting aspersions on anyone that disagree's with you. In short, YOU ARE SICK! Get help while you can.

    Now, you need to go back and work on your timeline. You had Rob learning the double up bug off a machine subsequent to the 2013 publication on the Kane/Nestor story. So far the only evidence we have is Rob had a machine in his house prior to 2012.

    Now, your kockamamie assertion about you and redietz and axel say Rob had more machines, and I presume that would be a date later than 2013. Until you put up some evidence of it then it's just conjecture on your part. Prove it, asshole, don't speculate.

    And for Rob and the landlord. I put up all kinds of shit disparaging Rob. I was trolling him. I didn't give a damn if it was right or not. But how do we really know whether Rob had a legitimate beef or not? All I know is landlords always lose in small claims court because they are slimeballs. The judges don't like them.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 09-24-2019 at 03:05 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Mickey, I am going to lay this out for you one last time...the entire time line, the Entire Rob Singer Story.

    1990 -1996, Rob attempts to play video poker with an advantage. By his numbers he lost 45/k a year for 6 years, or $270,000.

    1996. Rob files for bankruptcy, wiping out a quarter million dollars in debt. Rob proudly proclaims bankruptcy to be a "wealth building tool". It is no coin incidence the amount of debt he ran up is basically what he lost in the previous 6 years, making his statement that the $270k lost was no big deal and about a half of years salary completely absurd. This is also 100% the behavior of a degenerate gambling addict. Run up huge debt gambling, every dollar you can get your hands on and then file for bankruptcy.

    1996 -1999. I don't know what occurred during these years. Rob says this was the time he came up with his "magical" SPS, progressive wagering, stop limit system.

    1999 - 2009. Rob writes a column for a weekly gambling paper. He also begins his claim that he played this math defying SPS system for 10 years, winning 1.5 million dollars. This SPS claim was later amended downwards to 4 years and the double up bug claim, replaced the final 5 years.

    2009. Not sure when Rob's "gig" as a non paid columnist at the gambling paper, came to an end, but in 2009 he announces his retirement.

    2011. Rob has a legal judgement against him from the apartment complex that he lives in for $958, which is likely his rent amount, meaning he didn't pay his rent.

    2013. The Nestor/Kane article in Wired magazine comes out. In a discussion on this forum Rob states that what Kane/Nestor did was illegal. Something someone who had also done this play, would never say. That is admitting you knew it was illegal and would open you up to more legal trouble if you were to be caught.

    2013 or sometime there after. Using the sequence from the Wired article Rob is able to figure out the correct sequence on a machine that he owns.

    2019. Rob steals the Nestor/Kane claim as his own, amending his claims from 1999 - 2009, flip flopping earlier statements and positions, and seeks a platform with either GWAE or Shackleford to tell his "story".

    This is the story of a degenerate gambler who lost all his money, ran up huge debt, filed for bankruptcy, couldn't pay his rent, had legal judgements against him, had a vendetta against Bob Dancer, just because he was successful at what Rob wanted to do and trolled the AP community and successful AP's for 20 years, making fantastic claims that fly in the face of the math, escalating and altering those claims as time went on. And that is where we are now.

    Now that is all I can do. Anyone who still wants to believe the earth is flat.....believe the earth is flat. I can't stop you.
    You've made a lot of assumptions. You obviously believe the earth is flat. Now, here is something for you to work on. What was Rob doing with an IGT Game King in his house in 2008?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Sure I put all that up. I was trolling Rob hard at that time. But you just ignored all the evidence I put up in my previous post. That's what you do. If it doesn't fit your narrative you ignore it.
    I don't see anything in the 2012 thread talking about the double up bug? The thread seems to be talking about rigged machines as in Rob's long-time unsubstantiated claim that machines aren't random. If there is mention of the double up bug and Rob knowing the sequence in that thread, please direct me to it.

    "you were trolling Rob hard at that time". What does this mean mickey....you made this stuff including screenshot of legal complaints up? If that is what you are saying then you are as screwed up and completely uncredible as Rob. If you are not saying you made it up and it is real, then again, does this make sense to you. Guy wins 2.8 million from 2004 thru 2009 and in 2011 can't pay the rent on his 1 bedroom, 700 square foot apartment. This adds up to you?
    It makes perfect sense. Rob could have gambled and lpst that 2.8 million which is why he couldn't pay that 2011 rent. A woman won 13 million and just like the next year all of that 13 million was gone and she resorted to stealing from Relatives bank Accounts that she had Power Of Attorney from just to get by....She was gambling with that 13 million on high limitslots....

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I don't see anything in the 2012 thread talking about the double up bug? The thread seems to be talking about rigged machines as in Rob's long-time unsubstantiated claim that machines aren't random. If there is mention of the double up bug and Rob knowing the sequence in that
    Do you really think Rob would be talking about the double up bug in 2012 long before the statute of limitations was up?

    What you should really be contemplating on is what was Rob really doing with an IGT Game King in his house in 2008. He may very well have run simulations like he said. But was that all he was doing? Or was he also looking for more bugs?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Sure I put all that up. I was trolling Rob hard at that time. But you just ignored all the evidence I put up in my previous post. That's what you do. If it doesn't fit your narrative you ignore it.
    I don't see anything in the 2012 thread talking about the double up bug? The thread seems to be talking about rigged machines as in Rob's long-time unsubstantiated claim that machines aren't random. If there is mention of the double up bug and Rob knowing the sequence in that thread, please direct me to it.

    "you were trolling Rob hard at that time". What does this mean mickey....you made this stuff including screenshot of legal complaints up? If that is what you are saying then you are as screwed up and completely uncredible as Rob. If you are not saying you made it up and it is real, then again, does this make sense to you. Guy wins 2.8 million from 2004 thru 2009 and in 2011 can't pay the rent on his 1 bedroom, 700 square foot apartment. This adds up to you?
    It makes perfect sense. Rob could have gambled and lpst that 2.8 million which is why he couldn't pay that 2011 rent. A woman won 13 million and just like the next year all of that 13 million was gone and she resorted to stealing from Relatives bank Accounts that she had Power Of Attorney from just to get by....She was gambling with that 13 million on high limitslots....
    Rob also put over 600K in escrow at the Westin, I think, on a proposed bet between him and Fezzik. I can't remember the year, maybe 2007.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Rob also put over 600K in escrow at the Westin, I think, on a proposed bet between him and Fezzik. I can't remember the year, maybe 2007.
    I don't know anything about this. Is there some sort of proof that he deposited 600K escrow at Westin to cover a wager? Please direct me to the thread and proof.

    And why do I have a feeling if I read through that incident there will be the old mickeycrimm, the real mickeycrimm arguing everything Rob says. But Now, here you are with your little R.S. cheerleading outfit on.

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    And why do I have a feeling if I read through that incident there will be the old mickeycrimm, the real mickeycrimm arguing everything Rob says. But Now, here you are with your little R.S. cheerleading outfit on.
    Fuck off and die bitch. You're just a screeching little crybaby troll. Wattemberger and Shackleford were right. You're bad news. I'm glad they offed you. They should have done it sooner. Now go piss in the women's room, fruitcake.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  18. #38
    [QUOTE=mickeycrimm;93077]
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    And why do I have a feeling if I read through that incident there will be the old mickeycrimm, the real mickeycrimm arguing everything Rob says. But Now, here you are with your little R.S. cheerleading outfit on.
    Fuck off and die bitch. You're just a screeching little crybaby troll. Wattemberger and Shackleford were right. You're bad news. I'm glad they offed you. They should have done it sooner. Now go piss in the women's room, fruitcake.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  19. #39
    Rob having a game king is his house prior to 2012 fucked up your whole timeline, Inspector KJ Clouseau. It really fucked up your world. So you resort to the same old tactic of trying to bully someone into agreeing with you. You're a piece of shit.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    And why do I have a feeling if I read through that incident there will be the old mickeycrimm, the real mickeycrimm arguing everything Rob says. But Now, here you are with your little R.S. cheerleading outfit on.
    Fuck off and die bitch. You're just a screeching little crybaby troll. Wattemberger and Shackleford were right. You're bad news. I'm glad they offed you. They should have done it sooner. Now go piss in the women's room, fruitcake.
    I hate Fruitcakes but I do make them during the Holiday Season from November to January.

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