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Thread: Quick Hits Platinum 5QH/6QH +EV midrange double meter combos

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    For the $1.50 max bet penny denom Quick Hit Platinum (along with it's various skins), I plotted (please see below) some bi-variate (5QH Meter and 6QH Meter) scenarios (the underlying data used to construct the plot is also shown) where the machine goes +EV so that players could find more situations than just looking at the 5QH Meter to see if its a play or 6QH Meter to see if its a play. In combination, one doesn't have to have such an extreme case of one meter or the other getting big enough. Every 196 spins or so on average, the player will catch the 5QH or 6QH progressive. Please let me know if anyone has any questions.

    Regards, TP.

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    You signed your post TP, lol.

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    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    You signed your post TP, lol.
    I'm guessing that's for tableplay and not toilet paper.

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    Thanks for this. How often would you say these plays come up?

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    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    Thanks for this. How often would you say these plays come up?
    I'm not sure. It would depend on the number of machines in place and activity. I saw a $37 (reset $15) on the 5QH meter yesterday, but the 6QH wasn't strong ($88, reset $75) so I decided not to take it. I would suggest, not necessarily seeking them out, but if things are slow, or while you're on your way to something, to always check the 5QH and 6QH meters. Hopefully the mid-range double meter info will add to the times there's a play.
    A study of meter growth on the 5QH and 6QH meters would be helpful since then the probability of a plays occurring could be calculated.
    But I have not taken a look at the meter growth. If someone knows the growth rate I can do some calculations.

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    This is very nice -- thanks TP.

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    Originally Posted by kuma View Post
    This is very nice -- thanks TP.
    Sure no problem Kuma.

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    I don't pay much attention to the quick hits because it's just a once in awhile play. I think the bottom meter runs at 1%. I'll check next time I'm around one. Just 1% is not conducive to developing plays. Short coiners have the most effect because they are running the meters up without qualifying for anything. I always look at what the others are betting. They get lots of short coin action.
    Luck is probability taken personally.

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I don't pay much attention to the quick hits because it's just a once in awhile play. I think the bottom meter runs at 1%. I'll check next time I'm around one. Just 1% is not conducive to developing plays. Short coiners have the most effect because they are running the meters up without qualifying for anything. I always look at what the others are betting. They get lots of short coin action.
    Exactly Mickey - I wouldn't hold my breath finding plays on these. Something you glance at while getting to whatever your destination is. I was hoping that examining (glancing at) both the 5QH and 6QH would move the play from very rare to rare in terms of frequency since both meters don't have to move into the stratosphere (but both do have to be quite high). Also, I made a mistake in stating that I could calculate the frequency of it being a play per what you wrote above - short coiners can't pick off the play, only max betters can - so one can't simply state that if the meters grows from X1 to X2 that Y max bet spins occurred (which would allow a probability calculation like "if the meters grows from X1 to X2, Y spins were made so you have a probability of P to hit it in Y spins - Y cannot be determined")

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    There used to be a discussion forum called Slot Machines Forum that discussed these machines extensively. IIRC they had PAR sheets too.
    I had just found the site and was starting to analyze all of it when the forum went away.
    Unfortunately all I remember is free games comes on an average every 81 spins.
    But the analysis of the QH jackpot balances and when they were playable were similar to what Mickey's presented here for other slots. Also similar to how I've seen breakdowns done for VP with multiple progressives.
    Like I recall there were Excel like forms where you could enter the various jackpot balances and it would calculate whether it was an advantage to play or not.

    Just mentioning this in case this rings bells for someone who paid more attention or spent more time reading that forum than I ended up with.

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    Originally Posted by pkspins View Post
    Unfortunately all I remember is free games comes on an average every 81 spins.
    Hi Pkspins, the free games occur every 96 spins on average:
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