Glad you are feeling better. Heart health is a serious thing for sure. I've had several family members with heart issues. Take care of yourself.
Glad you are feeling better. Heart health is a serious thing for sure. I've had several family members with heart issues. Take care of yourself.
Luckily my family doesn't have heart issues but I've never been in shape. Signed up for a personal trainer and so I'm literally learning fitness basics. My cardio is so bad.Originally Posted by radicalwin
On an encouraging note, my Dad had a quintuple bypass in his seventies and left a few days later. He followed doctor orders to the letter and even mapped out a distance to vigorously walk INSIDE the house! He lived another 10 years, and it took cancer to take the final toll. He never missed a beat enjoying what time he had left.
I'm sure you all read where a certain med for Sling's granddaughter costs 1K a pill. Since my heart attack and my introduction to meds--I currently take 6 different meds per day--I'm now getting on top of the issue of the cost of prescription drugs and how Americans are being gouged by big pharma. Sling's daughter is a case in point. That 1K pill here probably costs about $130 in the UK and Canada.
My meds cost about $700 a month. It's mainly because of one pill, Eliquis. It's a blood thinner. Because of my heart attack and the resulting condition I'm at greater risk of having a stroke. That's where a blood clot forms and heads to the brain. So the Eliquis is the most important med I take. My blood has to stay thinned out in order to lower the chance of a stroke. A 30-day supply of Eliquis costs $546 at my local Wal-Mart. In the UK that same 30 day supply costs $70. Americans are being gouged by big pharma.
I don't know if any of you have noticed the new TV commercials by Trump where he is trying to drum up support to take on big pharma and get drug prices lowered. This is an issue I'm glad to see him take up. I know many of you don't like Trump but this is an issue you need to get behind him on. Right now I think to many in Congress are afraid of big pharma and their money so are avoiding the issue.
Everyone should contact your congressional leaders and senators and tell them you want lower drug prices.
Thanks for listening.
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This issue first inflamed me when the epipen hike came about-pure evidence of greed. This should be a bipartisan effort no matter which side-if you are a true American. Friends and family of my son raised help through a gofundme which humbled us, but more importantly showed America's true heart.Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
As in just about everything in life, what goes around comes around. Preparation and respect--you either learn their unmatched benefits at an early age or you eventually pay the price. When you're young, it's no game when it comes to your personal health. You either understand and respect you're extraordinarily amazing human body or you don't. These stupid yuppies and other idiots who go into it saying "I'm gonna live hard and fast and probably die at a relatively young age"? Good riddance when you go.
We all know that there's a million ways to leave this earth, and because of the breakdown of bodies with age our chances increase exponentially with every passing day. But if you make the choice early-on to abuse your body--which to me is hard to digest--then expect the worst and don't bitch or whine about it when that day comes. It makes all the difference in the world if you accept it with the grit of an angry roaring lion. THOSE are the ones who do not fear what awaits.
I saw our resident philosopher accountinquestion complain about his poor cardio and how he's never been in decent shape. That's probably the M.O. of the majority of people in this country. You people all go to casinos--you see more athletic types of more obese and fat-ass people? They also puffing on cigarettes and gulping the booze? How about ANYWHERE you go in this country? I say WTF's their problem!??
Good luck.
Lower drug prices by government force? THis is some liberal anti-capitalist shit! JUST WORK HARDER! This country does NOT need more handouts.... oh wait.. it is for yourself? Well THAT is different!Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Seriously though, it bugs me "Trump where he is trying to drum up support to take on big pharma and get drug prices lowered". Trump is about the last one who is going to do anything in this area. He is trying to drum up support for himself. His policies have consistently benefited the wealthy more than the poor. Outside of attributing this economic swing to him, what is there? The only ones who are going to take on big pharma are liberals. Sorry if the truth stings.
If you can't see that these companies are really funding their CEO's instead of reinvesting into research and development, then you miss the point. I went through the scenario with Walmart-a representation of what's going on. As I saw benefits slowly slipping away and then saw where EACH of the Walton children received 18 BILLION, it began an awakening that overflowed into drug companies and others. How about this-Government ENCOURAGING to line their pockets?Originally Posted by accountinquestionLower drug prices by government force? THis is some liberal anti-capitalist shit! JUST WORK HARDER! This country does NOT need more handouts.... oh wait.. it is for yourself? Well THAT is different!Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Seriously though, it bugs me "Trump where he is trying to drum up support to take on big pharma and get drug prices lowered". Trump is about the last one who is going to do anything in this area. He is trying to drum up support for himself. His policies have consistently benefited the wealthy more than the poor. Outside of attributing this economic swing to him, what is there? The only ones who are going to take on big pharma are liberals. Sorry if the truth stings.
Account, your attitude is that of a bonified loser.Originally Posted by accountinquestionLower drug prices by government force? THis is some liberal anti-capitalist shit! JUST WORK HARDER! This country does NOT need more handouts.... oh wait.. it is for yourself? Well THAT is different!Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Seriously though, it bugs me "Trump where he is trying to drum up support to take on big pharma and get drug prices lowered". Trump is about the last one who is going to do anything in this area. He is trying to drum up support for himself. His policies have consistently benefited the wealthy more than the poor. Outside of attributing this economic swing to him, what is there? The only ones who are going to take on big pharma are liberals. Sorry if the truth stings.
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Well, if you can tell me how you think Trump is going to do something for you by taking on big companies in the US, I'm all ears. He's had 3 years to do such a thing somewhere.. Put up! Wheres the beef? Maybe there is something I am overlooking.Originally Posted by mickeycrimmAccount, your attitude is that of a bonified loser.Originally Posted by accountinquestionLower drug prices by government force? THis is some liberal anti-capitalist shit! JUST WORK HARDER! This country does NOT need more handouts.... oh wait.. it is for yourself? Well THAT is different!Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Seriously though, it bugs me "Trump where he is trying to drum up support to take on big pharma and get drug prices lowered". Trump is about the last one who is going to do anything in this area. He is trying to drum up support for himself. His policies have consistently benefited the wealthy more than the poor. Outside of attributing this economic swing to him, what is there? The only ones who are going to take on big pharma are liberals. Sorry if the truth stings.
R&D costs money and this and that. I can give you the song and dance. We get the best drugs earliest because of capitalism and all that. This is what we want! Capitalism! If we make drugs too cheap, no new ones will be invented.
I mean I am ok with someone requesting that Trump go after Big-Pharma but like this has been a liberal thing forever. Trump decides his policies strictly on whether they are anti-Obama/Clinton and whether they benefit the wealthy. He also says anything to get elected. Sure middle class might get a tax-cut, but guaranteed upper-classes get a bigger one under Trump. Who knows, maybe I have Trump wrong on what he's done.
You're asking for price controls... or something? What is Trumps plan? <crickets> It goes something like "Vote for me and I'll MAGA" ?
I can give you lots of reasons why capitalism fails when applied to medicine but don't think anyone wants to hear it.
Two sides to every story. Sure, no one likes monopolistic capitalism. Then, no one likes the abuse of generosity. I have been on the decision making side in our church benevolence and there are some who just can't get it that they have to be responsible for their actions. To put it simply, greed in the human realm has to be replaced by a new way of thinking.Originally Posted by accountinquestionWell, if you can tell me how you think Trump is going to do something for you by taking on big companies in the US, I'm all ears. He's had 3 years to do such a thing somewhere.. Put up! Wheres the beef? Maybe there is something I am overlooking.Originally Posted by mickeycrimmAccount, your attitude is that of a bonified loser.Originally Posted by accountinquestion
R&D costs money and this and that. I can give you the song and dance. We get the best drugs earliest because of capitalism and all that. This is what we want! Capitalism! If we make drugs too cheap, no new ones will be invented.
I mean I am ok with someone requesting that Trump go after Big-Pharma but like this has been a liberal thing forever. Trump decides his policies strictly on whether they are anti-Obama/Clinton and whether they benefit the wealthy. He also says anything to get elected. Sure middle class might get a tax-cut, but guaranteed upper-classes get a bigger one under Trump. Who knows, maybe I have Trump wrong on what he's done.
You're asking for price controls... or something? What is Trumps plan? <crickets> It goes something like "Vote for me and I'll MAGA" ?
I can give you lots of reasons why capitalism fails when applied to medicine but don't think anyone wants to hear it.
I agree. You know what, I don't think liberals like people taking advantage of the system any more than Republicans. However it seems that Republican-types get far more offended at others taking advantage of the system.Originally Posted by slingshotTwo sides to every story. Sure, no one likes monopolistic capitalism. Then, no one likes the abuse of generosity. I have been on the decision making side in our church benevolence and there are some who just can't get it that they have to be responsible for their actions. To put it simply, greed in the human realm has to be replaced by a new way of thinking.Originally Posted by accountinquestionWell, if you can tell me how you think Trump is going to do something for you by taking on big companies in the US, I'm all ears. He's had 3 years to do such a thing somewhere.. Put up! Wheres the beef? Maybe there is something I am overlooking.Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
R&D costs money and this and that. I can give you the song and dance. We get the best drugs earliest because of capitalism and all that. This is what we want! Capitalism! If we make drugs too cheap, no new ones will be invented.
I mean I am ok with someone requesting that Trump go after Big-Pharma but like this has been a liberal thing forever. Trump decides his policies strictly on whether they are anti-Obama/Clinton and whether they benefit the wealthy. He also says anything to get elected. Sure middle class might get a tax-cut, but guaranteed upper-classes get a bigger one under Trump. Who knows, maybe I have Trump wrong on what he's done.
You're asking for price controls... or something? What is Trumps plan? <crickets> It goes something like "Vote for me and I'll MAGA" ?
I can give you lots of reasons why capitalism fails when applied to medicine but don't think anyone wants to hear it.
I really think it boils down to some people are just more offended when other people get something for free. I am ok with these opinions, but the world needs consistency. If one is going to hate anything close to liberalism, then don't go say support "Support Trump for a core plank of the opposing party."
Hearing Trump, he'll fix everything and has. It is nonsense. If you want to vote for him, fine, just cut the shit with the lying to yourself about that guy. What is his plan to fix pharmacy prices? Has he ever put one forward? Come'on.
Honestly, Mickey is suggesting price controls. That is some deeply liberal stuff which I'm not even sure I am ok with. I am however ok with single-payer. That is not near as liberal as the idea of price controls. Basically I think there should be single-payer with some limits. The wealthy are able to pay extra but single-payer covers a baseline reasonable medical care. (But isn't that where the right starts screaming death courts or whatever the scare term back in the day was?)
Single-payer would go a long ways to correcting medical care if capped on the expense per person etc.
The Eliquis I take is $546 a month where the rest of the world gets it for $70 a month. Why are Americans singled out to pay 8X what the rest of the world is paying? If everyone had your attitude, account, nothing will ever be done about it. Thanks for nothing and go piss and moan your politics to someone else.
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Yes. Sorry this got started on your get well posts. NO ONE is asking for handouts! Just researched a new trial vaccine from Mayo clinic that was successful in treating cancer in clinical trials. Cost? $12 MILLION! C'mon accountingquestion.Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
All one-upmanship aside it's quite telling that our proud lifelong conservative in the rugged individualist mold becomes a de facto socialist the first time in his life he's forced to use a hospital.
Of what is it telling, I'm not sure...that single payer really is going to happen?
Mickey, you don't have health insurance?
Take off that stupid mask you big baby.
Can you come up with a quote from me where I said I was for unbridled, unfettered capitalism? No, you can't. Capitalism without checks and balances is as bad as communism. Anti-trust laws come to mind. I believe big pharma is ripping off Americans to the benefit of foreigners. There is nothing socialist in that belief. And I'm not a life long conservative. I used to be liberal as hell....when I was broke.Originally Posted by smurgerburger
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How are drug companies "ripping off Americans to the benefit of foreigners"?
They sell the drugs for what they can in different countries. In single payer countries they have to accept whatever price the national health program sets or they lose the entire national market.
Even if the whole world had the US system it would not drive down the market price here, as far as I can see.
You're calling for price fixing, of course that's a socialist solution.
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