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  1. #101
    Redietz wrote:

    "You don't get asked about having your photo taken with the more substantial jackpots. I believe it's technically within their rights to photograph you."

    That is a key point Redietz. Rob needed notoriety immediately as he thrives on it. Every casino shows pictures of big jackpot winners but out of all of those winners little did anyone know Rob's picture was the only one on display in at least a dozen casinos at the same time. AndrewG, how come you did not figure this out? This may be a way that Rob can actually prove what he says he has done. There could be numerous pictures and records in casinos old archives.
    Last edited by BoSox; 11-23-2019 at 08:05 AM.

  2. #102
    Axelwolf raises a great point about the handpays. It happens to be a point that I raised months ago. Handpays draw attention. It takes about 5 seconds for surveillance to review the play. I don't know if they are required to review every handpay, but surely they would review some.

    Handpays are going to draw attention. The way to avoid attention would be avoiding handpays. Like Axel said, you could really Milk this play that way. With Handpays it would be a matter of time just as it was with Kane/Nestor. Rob always wants us to believe these things don't apply to him. He is special. Yeah, he is "special" alright.

  3. #103
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Rob, obviously I asked this before but I have since forgotten. Why did you take handpays and not just milk multiple machines over and over and over while moving around without ever having a hand pay while using the double up glitch?
    LOL. The answer's obvious, Axelwolf. He loves to tip.

    Even when he makes stuff up.

    Sorry, man, I didn't mean to distract from the gotcha moment. But the gotcha doesn't count for unbelievers, so forgive me.
    when I very first learned about this originally I assumed the only way the glitch could work is if it involved a handpay. Because, even if someone wasn't all that that Advantage play savvy you would have to think getting hand pays was one of the worst possible ways you would go about playing in this situation. I never imagined it could be done without taking handpays. You could easily get three or four thousand dollars out of 1 casino without much of a problem in a short amount of time. I don't see why one couldn't easily make $200,000 a month.

    There's one small caveat to that, you might want some proof of where all your money was coming from. However, if you just kept a log and paid your taxes I don't think there would be an issue. Or if you really wanted to you could take some of the winnings and go play higher denomination machines legitimately and generate tax forms that way.
    First, without handpays and signers, as long as you kept a proper log and didn't submit fudged tax returns, $200k/mo. or whatever amount wouldn't be a problem.

    My reason for only doing it on handpays and only once in each casino visit, was because of how unique this play was, and because I had to devise an approach strategy that mitigated possible attention. That was the key to play longevity. Remember, I didn't have the luxury of looking at it from today's point of view. It was a real time play that had potential for all kinds of unpleasant circumstances if even one person saw me doing it. Play preservation and security for me were the overwhelming goals, and in that order of importance.

    It may be hard to visualize, but try to think of what it would be like pounding away at this play on non-handpay winners 50 or more times in every casino....with the obvious occasional handpays sprinkled in. I know there's times when I'm walking around casinos and catch glimpses of how this or that player is operating at their machines, and plenty of others do that. There's also casino employees who might be watching you play purely out of interest, and maybe even somebody upstairs too. I considered all this, and came to the conclusion that somehow, someway, this play that I believed I owned with sacred rights, would be compromised much too soon had I gone that route.

    And regarding anyone at all from the casino doing a "hand review" after a single hit, the eye upstairs watching any individual on the up & up player like a hawk who just sat down, or a casino manager being suspicious over a player getting a single handpay, is just total vp inexperience on the part of kew. As far as I know none of that has ever happened to me regardless of how many handpays I got at a single machine when playing pre and post-double up, and I've hit a number of $40k and over winners and have had millions of dollars in taxables throughout the years. It's just a non-issue.

    Was my approach the optimal approach? Maybe, maybe not. But I can tell you for certainty, what I did was what was most comfortable for me after very carefully analyzing the situation as a lone wolf, and at a time when there was no 20-20 hindsight on how the Kane case turned out.

  4. #104
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Axelwolf raises a great point about the handpays. It happens to be a point that I raised months ago. Handpays draw attention. It takes about 5 seconds for surveillance to review the play. I don't know if they are required to review every handpay, but surely they would review some.

    Handpays are going to draw attention. The way to avoid attention would be avoiding handpays. Like Axel said, you could really Milk this play that way. With Handpays it would be a matter of time just as it was with Kane/Nestor. Rob always wants us to believe these things don't apply to him. He is special. Yeah, he is "special" alright.
    I've said this before but you just don't listen because it doesn't fit your odd agenda.

    You keep insisting that surveillance reviews most handpays. That's bs and here's proof. If they reviewed even ONE of Kane's or Nestor's many, many jackpots, they instantly would have seen exactly what they were doing. What casino surveillance expert wouldn't smell a rat--and a very big one at that--if they went back to do this "hand review" you're trying to push, and saw the player hit four 3's on quarters, go to the double up, then put a bill into a feeder THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DISABLED AT THIS POINT, then see the DU event disappear, then see the screen able to be changed to the games and denominations menu, then notice the player go back to his winning hand, change the denomination to the highest level, and THEN hit cashout? And all this is in ADDITION to the obvious hanky-panky of watching either of those two guys use a pre-existing hand for a jackpot payout.

    So either you believe surveillance guys are complete retards who missed hundreds of the Kane/Nestor manipulations doing what you call "regular reviews of handpay jackpots" before the Einstein of all surveillance finally got hired at the Silverton....or you very well may not know WTF you're talking about again. The latter sounds spot on.

  5. #105
    Yessirree, Bob.

    Sometimes he was a very careful dude massaging the play for longevity. Other times he might, as he says, not have been doing it optimally. A careful man, but not optimal, eh? And still other times, he was explaining online to the public how the play was illegal and Kane/Nestor were breaking the law so that if he were caught, he could plead multiple personality syndrome (he had been posting his legal opinions as "Rob Hummer?"). His strategy for using the play, in hindsight, was beyond the ken of mortal man.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that. Everybody drinks too much on occasion.

  6. #106
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Axelwolf raises a great point about the handpays. It happens to be a point that I raised months ago. Handpays draw attention. It takes about 5 seconds for surveillance to review the play. I don't know if they are required to review every handpay, but surely they would review some.

    Handpays are going to draw attention. The way to avoid attention would be avoiding handpays. Like Axel said, you could really Milk this play that way. With Handpays it would be a matter of time just as it was with Kane/Nestor. Rob always wants us to believe these things don't apply to him. He is special. Yeah, he is "special" alright.
    I've said this before but you just don't listen because it doesn't fit your odd agenda.

    You keep insisting that surveillance reviews most handpays. That's bs and here's proof. If they reviewed even ONE of Kane's or Nestor's many, many jackpots, they instantly would have seen exactly what they were doing. What casino surveillance expert wouldn't smell a rat--and a very big one at that--if they went back to do this "hand review" you're trying to push, and saw the player hit four 3's on quarters, go to the double up, then put a bill into a feeder THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DISABLED AT THIS POINT, then see the DU event disappear, then see the screen able to be changed to the games and denominations menu, then notice the player go back to his winning hand, change the denomination to the highest level, and THEN hit cashout? And all this is in ADDITION to the obvious hanky-panky of watching either of those two guys use a pre-existing hand for a jackpot payout.

    So either you believe surveillance guys are complete retards who missed hundreds of the Kane/Nestor manipulations doing what you call "regular reviews of handpay jackpots" before the Einstein of all surveillance finally got hired at the Silverton....or you very well may not know WTF you're talking about again. The latter sounds spot on.
    Ok first of all surveillance looks at all kind of different things. At the top of that list is Employee theft, or so I have been repeatedly told and it goes from there. What they get to (priority) surely depends on time of day, how crowded and all that. I don't know where checking handpays would be. I imagine not near the top, but still on the list. And if you are doing something illegal or even potentially illegal, like you were, you would want to avoid that at all costs. And don't give us any shit about it not being illegal. It is.

    Now here's the thing Kane and Nestor clearly didn't worry about getting caught, because they appear to have done almost everything wrong. But, YOU tell us that you did everything you could to avoid detection. That is how you claim you made in 5 years on this play, where as Kane/Nester got caught within months right? So doing everything you could to avoid detection should have included avoiding handpays. Handpays would clearly be a danger zone. And as others have pointed out, you could have done quite nicely avoiding the most dangerous situation. Just another inconsistency in the Great Singer Caper.

    Now let's talk about my agenda? What is my agenda. I'm not selling anything. I am not writing a book. I pulled the plug on that deal halfway through and returned the advance. (I decided as an active player it wasn't the right time). I am not running around doing interviews. I turned down GWAE years ago for the same reason, it wasn't the right time for it, while still an active player. Hell I don't even share exactly what I do in detail. I do give out bits and pieces, like tracking multiple tables, or I might mention different tidbits here and there, may spreading both directions, but I have never sat down and given full details of everything I do, as it could be too identifying for an active player.

    So please tell me what my agenda is? The only agenda I have is that I would like for people like you who I feel are intentionally misleading other players to tell the truth.

  7. #107
    Dumb and ignorant just don't do you justice.....

    Judging from the HUGE point you sidestepped and instead chose to give us yet another heavy dose of face-saving, it is exponentially far more likely of getting noticed operating the play 50 or more times on a single or multiple machine's per day than it is being noticed by by upstairs using it on a single handpay. So tell us genius--exactly HOW was it that Kane and Nestor never had any of their handpay jackpot manipulations noticed by surveillance until Silverton...even after you tried watering it all down like you do everything that you look stupid on?

  8. #108
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Dumb and ignorant just don't do you justice.....

    ….like you do everything that you look stupid on?
    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...le-up-bug-poll

    Check the poll numbers and then tell me about who looks dumb, ignorant and stupid. Nobody believes your bullshit and yet you just continue on. I say this often, but you keep proving that you really live in a fantasy world, an alternative reality. Nobody believes you Rob...get it through your thick head.

    And the poll on this site is where you had the best chance, because for whatever reason, you have some members that support you. Just imagine a poll at one of the other sites, with more legitimate AP's and members based in reality.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 11-24-2019 at 02:21 PM. Reason: spelling

  9. #109
    And while I am at it Rob, let me tell you how I have known since day 1 on this site that you are full of crap.

    I used to think I was pretty unique in regards to my AP story. There are portions that are still unique, but in hearing and reading many other players stories, there is a similarity to most. There are unique parts as well that I as an AP enjoy (maybe non-AP's don't find it as fascinating), but there is a similarity to most. Even players like Axelwolf, who is what I consider more of a machine AP (in fairness, Axel is probably a complete well rounded AP, but I still think machine play when I think of Axel). So when I read some of Axel's story, especially the early years, that same similarity was there.

    For a real AP, it isn't about the money. Sure we want to make money and the more the better. But for almost every professional or serious card counter and AP, there was an element early on of beating the casino. Playing their games, by their rules and winning. And before anyone gets into the hundreds of thousands of dollars, all that really matters is making a living, whatever that entails for one's circumstances. 50k, 80k, maybe even 30k. Initially that is all we wanted, because it validates that we could beat the casino and that is what it really is about.

    Most AP's, whatever method of AP they are engaged in struggle early for a few years. Maybe not as bad as I did my first 3 years averaging 10k a year, but they struggle as they learn more and more. It is often said that anyone who can succeed at advantage play, could have made much more money doing something else. And that goes right back to the money wasn't the driving force.

    Now your story and that of the blackjack nut T3 on the blackjack forum that I called out, don't fit that mold. Both are guys claiming to have done well in the real world that leave that world to pursue gambling riches. That just is not the AP mentality....that is the degenerative gambler mentality.

    I mean only the very top AP's actually make more than 100k on a regular basis. Most AP's that achieve any kind of longevity, eventually are able to earn high 5 figures to 100k being about the ceiling. Again, there are a few really top players that can do better. And there are some that can do better for a few years, but quickly wear out their welcome and can't achieve any kind of longevity. There is a whole bunch of blackjack dudes like that, has some success for a few years, now can't get a game, and write books and run seminars or boot camps.

    So a Rob Singer as well as this T3 blackjack guy were players claiming to come from successful non-AP backgrounds, leaving that to pursue riches. And it just doesn't work that way. In addition both of you either announced ahead of time or telegraphed that you were going to not only succeed but be the best. Ap's just don't do that.

    It was just red flag after red flag that said This guy is Full of Shit. Now I encounter a lot of players that I don't find completely credible. That I believe are embellishing part or all of their story and I never say a word. But when people that I am sure are full of crap keep it up and 'muddy the waters' to the point that other, usually newer inexperienced players are believing their BS, I will speak up.

    I am sorry if it pisses you off that I call you out and shoot down your fantasy claims. I can guarantee, I am not alone, most real AP's see all the same red flags as I do and know you are full of crap. Just most don't care. It doesn't help them in anyway to call you out, so most don't, or maybe they will once in a while when they just get sick of hearing your bullshit. But I can guarantee you that among those with any sort of knowledge of real advantage play and/or that know the math, very few think you are anything but a bullshit artist. Your story and claims just don't fit. Don't fit what APs are about. Don't fit the math.

    But if you need this for some reason, even after the polls and what should be obvious that almost no one believes you...If your life is so incomplete that you need this fantasy.... then go for it.

  10. #110
    And the above were just the initial red flags. Every day there are more and more. Even all Rob's attacks and nastiness is a red flag. That is just him trying to shut people up and discourage others that would question him.

    All a person really has to do is take a step back once in a while and say does this make sense? Based on the math? Based on common sense? Does this make sense?

  11. #111
    KJ...if Rob is full of crap, your full of shit...fuck you...go back to your momma’s hole....
    Keep your friends close, keep your drinks closer...

  12. #112
    Based on common sense? Does this make sense?....from the guy who faked his own internet death. GENASS.
    Keep your friends close, keep your drinks closer...

  13. #113
    Originally Posted by jpfromla View Post
    KJ...if Rob is full of crap, your full of shit...fuck you...go back to your momma’s hole....
    Seems like an unusually hostile response from someone not really involved in the discussion.

  14. #114
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    And the above were just the initial red flags. Every day there are more and more. Even all Rob's attacks and nastiness is a red flag. That is just him trying to shut people up and discourage others that would question him.

    All a person really has to do is take a step back once in a while and say does this make sense? Based on the math? Based on common sense? Does this make sense?
    I just skimmed through multiple kew postings above, and guess what? Instead of answering my Kane/Nestor challenge to his claim that most handpay jackpot vp hands are reviewed by surveillance, he goes off on some strange tangent about his obsession with me.

    Looks like he's done this all day, with ungodly long rambling posts. But the one thing I noticed that truly verifies he's a lying fraud is he actually said "it's not about the money with AP's"!

    Pussy prison wouldn't be safe enuf for him after such a stupid statement.

  15. #115
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    And the above were just the initial red flags. Every day there are more and more. Even all Rob's attacks and nastiness is a red flag. That is just him trying to shut people up and discourage others that would question him.

    All a person really has to do is take a step back once in a while and say does this make sense? Based on the math? Based on common sense? Does this make sense?
    I just skimmed through multiple kew postings above, and guess what? Instead of answering my Kane/Nestor challenge to his claim that most handpay jackpot vp hands are reviewed by surveillance, he goes off on some strange tangent about his obsession with me.

    Looks like he's done this all day, with ungodly long rambling posts. But the one thing I noticed that truly verifies he's a lying fraud is he actually said "it's not about the money with AP's"!

    Pussy prison wouldn't be safe enuf for him after such a stupid statement.

    It is true but also wrong. Getting one over on a casino is a sweet feeling. I am basically a wanna-be AP but even finding little +EV spots isn't about the pittance of money I make doing it. I don't think this is true for most people. They see it completely and totally different.


    One could say the exact same thing about any degenerate gambler. It isn't really about the money. It is true in the same fashion.

  16. #116
    Originally Posted by jpfromla View Post
    KJ...if Rob is full of crap, your full of shit...fuck you...go back to your momma’s hole....
    #FreeTyde

  17. #117
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    And the above were just the initial red flags. Every day there are more and more. Even all Rob's attacks and nastiness is a red flag. That is just him trying to shut people up and discourage others that would question him.

    All a person really has to do is take a step back once in a while and say does this make sense? Based on the math? Based on common sense? Does this make sense?
    I just skimmed through multiple kew postings above, and guess what? Instead of answering my Kane/Nestor challenge to his claim that most handpay jackpot vp hands are reviewed by surveillance, he goes off on some strange tangent about his obsession with me.

    Looks like he's done this all day, with ungodly long rambling posts. But the one thing I noticed that truly verifies he's a lying fraud is he actually said "it's not about the money with AP's"!

    Pussy prison wouldn't be safe enuf for him after such a stupid statement.

    It is true but also wrong. Getting one over on a casino is a sweet feeling. I am basically a wanna-be AP but even finding little +EV spots isn't about the pittance of money I make doing it. I don't think this is true for most people. They see it completely and totally different.


    One could say the exact same thing about any degenerate gambler. It isn't really about the money. It is true in the same fashion.

    It is very, very rare to acquire the skill needed to win at gambling. Far less than 1% of the population acquires the skill to win at one subfield. I agree with kewlJ in that, from this perspective, theoretical blackjack may be the easiest subfield in which one can acquire basic expertise, but even then the actual in-the-field application and use is its own set of hard-to-acquire abilities.

    So having the ability to win versus casinos places you in a very rare category, and people like knowing they are in the 1% skill and knowledge-wise.

    Then, after acquiring subfield skill, one must be able to resist gambling at those subfields in which you do not have expertise. One must also have the discipline to shut it down when you cannot win at something. How many people, for example, would have the discipline to have great success betting college hoop totals for two years, then shut it down completely at the end of the second season when colleges instituted rule changes? You must be able to do that. So there is additional satisfaction in having the perspective to know one's limits and resist casino temptations for action in all of its forms. If Phil Ivey and Stu Ungar can crash and burn from craps and sports betting respectively, then who is safe, really? Having that discipline places you in the 1% of the less-than-1%. There is great self-satisfaction in being immune to the siren call of action.

    Finally, one should have had the patience, discipline, and awareness to not gamble negatively up to the point you learn to win. That means you're not operating at a gambling deficit right out of the gate. This requires, in all likelihood, that one acquire winning skills and discipline at a very early age. Young savant-ism would, I think, be helpful in this regard.

    All of this places you in a position to be self-sufficient, self-aware, and somewhat immune to calls for action, not only in casinos but in the world at large. Having these abilities is its own reward. It is not really about the money.

  18. #118
    The look of astonishment and jealously from a nosy ploppie as one walks up to a one-and-done vulturable next to the nosy ploppie's machine, inserts a voucher or bill, wins in a spin or two, and gets up and leaves is quite rewarding.

  19. #119
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    I just skimmed through multiple kew postings above, and guess what? Instead of answering my Kane/Nestor challenge to his claim that most handpay jackpot vp hands are reviewed by surveillance, he goes off on some strange tangent about his obsession with me.

    Looks like he's done this all day, with ungodly long rambling posts. But the one thing I noticed that truly verifies he's a lying fraud is he actually said "it's not about the money with AP's"!

    Pussy prison wouldn't be safe enuf for him after such a stupid statement.

    It is true but also wrong. Getting one over on a casino is a sweet feeling. I am basically a wanna-be AP but even finding little +EV spots isn't about the pittance of money I make doing it. I don't think this is true for most people. They see it completely and totally different.


    One could say the exact same thing about any degenerate gambler. It isn't really about the money. It is true in the same fashion.

    It is very, very rare to acquire the skill needed to win at gambling. Far less than 1% of the population acquires the skill to win at one subfield. I agree with kewlJ in that, from this perspective, theoretical blackjack may be the easiest subfield in which one can acquire basic expertise, but even then the actual in-the-field application and use is its own set of hard-to-acquire abilities.

    So having the ability to win versus casinos places you in a very rare category, and people like knowing they are in the 1% skill and knowledge-wise.

    Then, after acquiring subfield skill, one must be able to resist gambling at those subfields in which you do not have expertise. One must also have the discipline to shut it down when you cannot win at something. How many people, for example, would have the discipline to have great success betting college hoop totals for two years, then shut it down completely at the end of the second season when colleges instituted rule changes? You must be able to do that. So there is additional satisfaction in having the perspective to know one's limits and resist casino temptations for action in all of its forms. If Phil Ivey and Stu Ungar can crash and burn from craps and sports betting respectively, then who is safe, really? Having that discipline places you in the 1% of the less-than-1%. There is great self-satisfaction in being immune to the siren call of action.

    Finally, one should have had the patience, discipline, and awareness to not gamble negatively up to the point you learn to win. That means you're not operating at a gambling deficit right out of the gate. This requires, in all likelihood, that one acquire winning skills and discipline at a very early age. Young savant-ism would, I think, be helpful in this regard.

    All of this places you in a position to be self-sufficient, self-aware, and somewhat immune to calls for action, not only in casinos but in the world at large. Having these abilities is its own reward. It is not really about the money.
    All that wordsmithing does nothing to mitigate that it's really all about the money for any gambler. What you're implying is people go to work each day not for the money, but for some obscure type of job-satisfaction and to have realized a "thrilling" experience of sorts.

    Gambling 101: WIN OR GO HOME!

  20. #120
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    It is very, very rare to acquire the skill needed to win at gambling. Far less than 1% of the population acquires the skill to win at one subfield. I agree with kewlJ in that, from this perspective, theoretical blackjack may be the easiest subfield in which one can acquire basic expertise, but even then the actual in-the-field application and use is its own set of hard-to-acquire abilities.

    So having the ability to win versus casinos places you in a very rare category, and people like knowing they are in the 1% skill and knowledge-wise.

    Then, after acquiring subfield skill, one must be able to resist gambling at those subfields in which you do not have expertise. One must also have the discipline to shut it down when you cannot win at something. How many people, for example, would have the discipline to have great success betting college hoop totals for two years, then shut it down completely at the end of the second season when colleges instituted rule changes? You must be able to do that. So there is additional satisfaction in having the perspective to know one's limits and resist casino temptations for action in all of its forms. If Phil Ivey and Stu Ungar can crash and burn from craps and sports betting respectively, then who is safe, really? Having that discipline places you in the 1% of the less-than-1%. There is great self-satisfaction in being immune to the siren call of action.

    Finally, one should have had the patience, discipline, and awareness to not gamble negatively up to the point you learn to win. That means you're not operating at a gambling deficit right out of the gate. This requires, in all likelihood, that one acquire winning skills and discipline at a very early age. Young savant-ism would, I think, be helpful in this regard.

    All of this places you in a position to be self-sufficient, self-aware, and somewhat immune to calls for action, not only in casinos but in the world at large. Having these abilities is its own reward. It is not really about the money.
    This is a very, very good post Redietz. I agree with I think everything said.

    Blackjack card counter is probably the easiest form of AP to learn. At least by the numbers (math). Stanford Wong said "anybody can learn to count cards, the real trick is learning how to be allowed to keep playing".

    Discipline is the key to AP. I was lucky in that I went straight to +EV play. I never had an interest in -EV gambling. My late partner was a -EV player when I met him back in Philly. It wasn't until he followed me to Vegas, that I was able to turn him into a +EV player. And I can't swear that was 100%, that he never played a little more -EV than he should while playing our machine play. But for the most part, he turned away from -EV play. And I think that is fairly rare. As I tried to say in one of my long posts yesterday, gambling and advantage play are a completely different mindset.

    I give you an example of how you know someone is a real AP based on my blackjack roots. It isn't that unusual to have a day that goes pretty bad all day. Lose 3,4,5 sessions, maybe a couple fairly big. Maybe I am down 7 or 8 grand. Maybe more. remaining funds are borderline for staring a new session, but it is still early enough I want to play one more session. So down let's say 8 thousand dollars I start a new session. That would be with my minimum wager of $25. I mean that right there is discipline. It is 180 degrees from the way a gambler thinks. You aren't going to win back $8000 playing $25 a hand. But I am not a gambler. And I am not trying to win back $8000. That is known as chasing. I am simply trying to play this current session as best I can at positive expectation. This is an AP mentality.

    Now lets say this session goes nowhere. The count hovers in the neutral range. Maybe you get to bump up your bet a tiny bit, maybe you minimum bet the whole shoe. In the end you win $75. You walk away from that session feeling good about that session. You played exactly right. You played with an advantage. THAT is an advantage player! and that is an advantage player mentality!

    Degenerate gamblers and a gambling mentality is to chase those loses. Bet more when you have no advantage that says you have a reason to bet more. Gambling mentality!

    And by the way that is exactly what progression betting systems are. It is a form of chasing losses and it is a gamblers mentality. A losing player concept. No matter how you dress it up and there are all sorts of ways. Progressive betting is chasing loses, a gamblers thinking and a losing play. And anybody that tells you different is a losing player, with a losing gambler's mentality.

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