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    Some would have you believe you need to be a genius or get help from a genius to get the edge or advantage.
    I believe that if you have the time, money and desire or initiative anyone can beat the Casino or at least make some money.
    Time is just as important as Bankroll.
    You will need to put in the hours to actually get the return on your investment.
    You will need perfect play as well but that is easy enough with a strategy chart.

    Here is one example that has been a play for a very long time.
    Key points as usual are to use multiple cards if possible.
    Better to have the person with you if you can.
    Never put exact amounts in! You want to try to randomize things.
    Try to spread your play around if possible to other machines or games which could decrease your hourly.
    Get your Free Play out or Cash Back out ASAP in case they No Mail you or No Card you.
    Use your comp ASAP as well.

    One of the games will pay you 99.96% return on every 100 dollars you roll through.
    You need to play at the dollar level for this example.
    They have quarters and halves but you will have to cut your earn rate accordingly if you can't afford the dollar level.
    This means if you play perfect you will lose 4 cents on every 100 dollars.
    Remember that perfect play is more important than speed and speed will come with experience.
    I suggest a minimum of a 40,000 dollar cash bank roll.
    Everyone reacts differently to losses so this is actually about comfort level and you will see some swings at the dollar level.

    The card will give you 29 cents back on every 100 dollars.
    You should be able to average 800 hands per hour and that is low in my opinion.
    So this means you are making a quarter on every 100 dollars and you should get 4,000 dollars in an hour which is 10 dollars in cash per hour.
    You will also average about 50 cents comp per 100 rolled through the machine.
    Everyone has to eat so food isn't as bad as you might think.
    These numbers should be more as you play faster with experience.

    You should also get a 1% mailer which means that 40,000 coin will give you 400 per month in Free Play.
    Of course you don't want to put in exact amounts when you play and you don't want perfect amounts in each month.
    You will have to vary this. Sometimes go high and sometimes go low.
    35k to 60k per month should be a good projection.
    Sometimes take off a whole month or just let your card fall off for a few months helps as well.

    For the example let us just say you play 40k per month which should be 10 hours per month at 800 hands per hour.
    Eventually you will get this to 8 hours per month or less.

    So 40,000 coin in gets you 400 Free Play + 125 Cash + 250 Comp = 775 Per Month on 40,000 dollars invested.
    It isn't hard to get this to average out to an 800 dollar return on 40,000 dollars invested which is a 2% return.
    Some scoff at such a low return but I believe that a 2% hammer is a monster when playing it straight.
    As a matter of my opinion a 2% hammer for the player is a fundamental concept.
    800 hands per hour will earn 75 total per hour. (some of you don't count comp as cash)
    1000 hpr = 96.
    1200 hpr = 118.
    If you want a cleaner example and easier math just think in terms of a return of 1% or 1.5% or 2%.
    So at 2% if you are putting in 5000 dollars per hour which is 1000 hands per hour you will make a total of 100 cash/comp per hour.
    Things are easier if you use round numbers and if you are worried about it or doing it on the fly just go low.
    You know that the game will give you between 1.5% or 2% return but you don't want to calculate the exact amount.
    So just use the 1.5% example and you realize you are at 75 cash/comp per hour at the minimum.

    This all has to be adjusted for your speed and time you put in.
    You may want to put in more hours which will decrease your total hourly but give you more longevity.
    The game is always a win so you will be making money even if you take a pay cut.
    You may want to drop down to a 99.54% return game as well and find some playable reels to spread your play around.
    A little pit play can help as well if you want.

    Many factors to list and adjust but this is just a simple example trying to get someone started in the right direction.
    You want to try to find something like this or better and rotate.
    The more rotation the better.
    The more you play the more they pay!

    Always remember if you are doing this in Vegas you should never pay cash for Food.
    Food should always be comped from somewhere.
    Many of these places are changing and if you are showing a win they won't comp you.
    If you are losing a bunch on your card it might be a good idea to use another card and keep that loss on yours.
    That is a little bit more tricky and depends on a case by case basis.
    Last edited by monet; 01-13-2020 at 05:54 PM.

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