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    Stratosphere is fucking rigging the machines ever since new management took over. The games are good for a reason people. They never sweat the games anymore either. I should be down 5500 in the lastt 10hours there or so but only5k or so cause they bet restrict me to 2x100 instead of my usual max 2x200 and i still lost over 1k that shoe Let me ever find out ive been cheated and see what happens. Im not the fucking one worried just remember that vegas. You guys should be the ones worried. Let me ay 100 hours more and let me see me continously lose and see what happens.

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    Originally Posted by ZenKinG View Post
    Stratosphere is fucking rigging the machines ever since new management took over. The games are good for a reason people. They never sweat the games anymore either. I should be down 5500 in the lastt 10hours there or so but only5k or so cause they bet restrict me to 2x100 instead of my usual max 2x200 and i still lost over 1k that shoe Let me ever find out ive been cheated and see what happens. Im not the fucking one worried just remember that vegas. You guys should be the ones worried. Let me ay 100 hours more and let me see me continously lose and see what happens.
    What "new" management? Are they no longer owned by that group that owns Arizona Charlies?

    I haven't played Strat for quite some time, several years. From your post I take it you are playing 6 deck shoe games. And I take it you are talking about ASM games? Without knowing any details I will confirm that when a place that is formerly pretty sweaty, all of the sudden doesn't seem to care that can be a red flag. I have a couple of these type places that I stopped playing.

    I'll try to take a look at Strat, since I haven't looked in a long time. Maybe even give a little low limit play to get a feel....just for curiosity sake. But my question for you is going to be the same one that I have asked you a number of times before: If you feel a casino is cheating you....why do you keep playing that casino? It doesn't matter what the reason, if something just doesn't feel right, I stop playing that casino. I have about 5 casinos that I have taken out of my rotation. There are just too many casinos in Vegas to play one that you have bad results at and something doesn't feel right.

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    They're still the same group, although they had a huge shakeup in management, and it hasn't been for the better. They used to have decent promotions, point multipliers, etc. but they've done their best to strip all that away. Apparently they think some new paint and wallpaper will be enough to offset that, but I gave up on them months ago.

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    Are you seeing high counts repeatedly and relatively few low counts?

    Or do you think it's rigging the order of cards where you get into great +EV spots and then always happen to lose?
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    Originally Posted by ZenKinG View Post
    Stratosphere is fucking rigging the machines ever since new management took over. The games are good for a reason people. They never sweat the games anymore either. I should be down 5500 in the lastt 10hours there or so but only5k or so cause they bet restrict me to 2x100 instead of my usual max 2x200 and i still lost over 1k that shoe Let me ever find out ive been cheated and see what happens. Im not the fucking one worried just remember that vegas. You guys should be the ones worried. Let me ay 100 hours more and let me see me continously lose and see what happens.
    This post is somewhat incoherent. It says the machines are rigged but the explanation for that talks about shoes. And if the op is saying he should "lose" then why even bother playing anything. Then the rant takes a turn towards possible violence against the Strat if the losing continues. WTF? Next thing we'll probably hear is how he's gonna shut down all the PT's Pubs Golden also owns because of cloudy ice.

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    I quit playing the vp macines at Marguarittaville for bad results (I was not alone). They have since removed
    ALL vp machines-more than 50 of them. I was surprised to see them actually returning my food offers after I basically quit going there and gave them the worst reviews possible when they wanted my review of their property. They responded with the craziest question: "Besides winning on the machines, is there any other improvement you would like to see?" Yeah, right.

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    I think he means the auto shuffle machines.
    I'll miss Alan's profound stupidity.

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    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    I quit playing the vp macines at Marguarittaville for bad results (I was not alone). They have since removed
    ALL vp machines-more than 50 of them. I was surprised to see them actually returning my food offers after I basically quit going there and gave them the worst reviews possible when they wanted my review of their property. They responded with the craziest question: "Besides winning on the machines, is there any other improvement you would like to see?" Yeah, right.
    In other words, you handled something seemingly adverse like a human being would. The op here is obviously a mentally disturbed gambling addict who regularly loses his weekly grocery money. That's why kew understood him so easily.

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    Well, I happen to believe that ZenKing is what he presents, namely an intense, slightly paranoid (not that there's anything wrong with that), occasionally ranting professional blackjack player in Las Vegas who has managed to survive despite some serious disagreements with the god of variance and a real hatred of any shop that might be doing him wrong.

    Of course, many might defer to "Rob Singer's" clairvoyant (or is it telepathic?) read of ZenKing, because some people have real insights into the minds of "mentally disturbed gambling addicts." Maybe swarthiness provides special insights. Who knows?

    I think ZenKing usually posts when he's really perturbed, so there's a severe sampling bias regarding his persona and his results if one goes simply by his posts.

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    So in other words, red sees ZK--the "professional gambler" that he is--as an honest yet somewhat agitated-by-losing hot-head that can truly ascertain Nevada casino rigging and cheating whenever they take his money. And he is to respected for this talent....

    THIS is somebody you want making your sports bets for you....

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    So in other words, red sees ZK--the "professional gambler" that he is--as an honest yet somewhat agitated-by-losing hot-head that can truly ascertain Nevada casino rigging and cheating whenever they take his money. And he is to respected for this talent....

    THIS is somebody you want making your sports bets for you....
    Where did he say anything like I italicized? This is why no one listens to you. I actually decided to read your post and interpret your nonsense and all it does is confirm you are full of nonsense.

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    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    So in other words, red sees ZK--the "professional gambler" that he is--as an honest yet somewhat agitated-by-losing hot-head that can truly ascertain Nevada casino rigging and cheating whenever they take his money. And he is to respected for this talent....

    THIS is somebody you want making your sports bets for you....
    Where did he say anything like I italicized? This is why no one listens to you. I actually decided to read your post and interpret your nonsense and all it does is confirm you are full of nonsense.
    What a dumbass with a reading problem. Who are you, Nanci Pelosi? You're letting your hate take over, which is exactly when & why you shouldn't post. No wonder you're anonymous....

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    So in other words, red sees ZK--the "professional gambler" that he is--as an honest yet somewhat agitated-by-losing hot-head that can truly ascertain Nevada casino rigging and cheating whenever they take his money. And he is to respected for this talent....

    THIS is somebody you want making your sports bets for you....
    Where did he say anything like I italicized? This is why no one listens to you. I actually decided to read your post and interpret your nonsense and all it does is confirm you are full of nonsense.
    What a dumbass with a reading problem. Who are you, Nanci Pelosi? You're letting your hate take over, which is exactly when & why you shouldn't post. No wonder you're anonymous....
    Your ducking and dodging won't work.

    I'd say put up or shut-up, but we all know that unfortunately you won't shut-up.

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    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    Where did he say anything like I italicized? This is why no one listens to you. I actually decided to read your post and interpret your nonsense and all it does is confirm you are full of nonsense.
    What a dumbass with a reading problem. Who are you, Nanci Pelosi? You're letting your hate take over, which is exactly when & why you shouldn't post. No wonder you're anonymous....
    Your ducking and dodging won't work.

    I'd say put up or shut-up, but we all know that unfortunately you won't shut-up.
    Your agitation is getting the better of you--so much so that it's sending a tingle up my leg.
    Put up on what? I must have missed where you clearly identified the conflict within your mind.

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    What a dumbass with a reading problem. Who are you, Nanci Pelosi? You're letting your hate take over, which is exactly when & why you shouldn't post. No wonder you're anonymous....
    Your ducking and dodging won't work.

    I'd say put up or shut-up, but we all know that unfortunately you won't shut-up.
    Your agitation is getting the better of you--so much so that it's sending a tingle up my leg.
    Put up on what? I must have missed where you clearly identified the conflict within your mind.
    Gnats are annoying in life just like those on the internet. You're a big loser who thrives on getting attention. It is fairly simple.

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    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    Your ducking and dodging won't work.

    I'd say put up or shut-up, but we all know that unfortunately you won't shut-up.
    Your agitation is getting the better of you--so much so that it's sending a tingle up my leg.
    Put up on what? I must have missed where you clearly identified the conflict within your mind.
    Gnats are annoying in life just like those on the internet. You're a big loser who thrives on getting attention. It is fairly simple.
    Hahaha....I get all the attention I like, from YOU. has that sunk in yet?

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