https://mobile.twitter.com/CBray75/s...42619645710339

Person puts up a post of a W2G jackpot. He posts (here I will paraphrase): I was a moron, losing my butt trying a new game while sucking my mama’s teat until I got saved.

A couple of other people in the conversation spotted the same time: person was betting $8.80 a spin testing a new game.

I will file him/her in my village idiot folder (that already includes tableplay). I was reading this person’s tweets because s/he stated Zodiac Lion plays like Scarab, which it does not. ZL & Scarab both are accumulator slot machines where the equity is wild symbols but Scarab uses a wild turns on game 10 mechanics so the (average) payback of the game is based on (the average of) a 10-game cycle, e.g. it isn’t hard to figure out that if you could get the return of a 10-game cycle by wagering less than the full 10 spins ... hmmm.

However, Scarab had a walk away feature which is why the second way to make money from Scarab was to throw money for a few spins and compare the number of known wilds to a benchmark of wilds needed to continue playing. This is why option math and using a Markov chain was a good way to explain the “optimal departure point.” (Btw, I make a lot of money on Scarab on spins 4, 5, 6, etc because I knew the existing wilds was a +EV play that most hustlers won’t take a chance on). You cannot do that at ZL.

In summary, we weren’t there. We don’t know how much was lost before the W2G event. We don’t even know if the photo truly represents this person’s win.

If you play play live blackjack and back count (one or two tables same the same time), there is an optimal departure point to walk away and start counting new tables. Kim Lee using option math did the work for Don Schlessinger. You see option math used a lot in advantage play.