The Adventures of MDawg (in progress)

[Half Smoke]

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In Stanford Wong's classic "Professional Blackjack" he claimed he could pick up a count on a nearby table by looking at the reflection on the mirrored ceilings that covered up the EITS.

I took a look when I was playing aggressively. I'm not claiming I did it or could do it but I could see how it could be done. I don't doubt that a person with greater skills than I had could do it or that he could do it.

I think he was trying to find a table on the first or 2nd round that showed a running count of maybe +5. Then he would move over to that table and see if in the next couple rounds more low cards came out.

And then if the TC was high enough to give him an advantage he "wonged" in.

[kewlJ]

I'm not a math guy, but I've written an equation.

Post an end of the Bell Curve set of results. + Attribute this to something that doesn't logically explain these results. = Controversy and exploding heads.

Wasilla, I am not a math guy either. But here is the problem: some of these guy are math defiers. Math matters. Almost everything in life comes down to math. And everything in gambling is about math.

So is it possible to defy the math and win playing -EV game? Of course! That is what gambling is about. But to do so over and over and over gets into twilight zone territory. And that is what some of these guys claim. And it is the same guys making these impossible claims again and again and again. And let's be clear....when something has a 1 in several hundred million chance of something...i call that impossible.

Now APs, whether professional, semi-pro or recreational live by the math. And when we point out that these claims are impossible (by my definition), we are met with personal attacks. It's simply alternative reality stuff. That's what this forum and the math defies that dominate it are about.

[kewlJ]

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In Stanford Wong's classic "Professional Blackjack" he claimed he could pick up a count on a nearby table by looking at the reflection on the mirrored ceilings that covered up the EITS.

I took a look when I was playing aggressively. I'm not claiming I did it or could do it but I could see how it could be done. I don't doubt that a person with greater skills than I had could do it or that he could do it.

I think he was trying to find a table on the first or 2nd round that showed a running count of maybe +5. Then he would move over to that table and see if in the next couple rounds more low cards came out.

And then if the TC was high enough to give him an advantage he "wonged" in.

Are you sure you read that in wongs book half smoke?

I have relayed a very similar story from my days back in Atlantic City. The old Sands had fairly low mirrored ceilings and it was rather easy to look up and see the cards from the table directly across the pit. The trick was to be reading the pips and paint rather than actual numbers.

Interestingly after I have recounted that experience there have been 2 other long time counters that shared that they also had done so at times at that same location. So it would not surprise me if Wong had done so, I just don't remember reading that.

He is the one that convinced me that picking up the count at ANY point had value.

[kewlJ]

Good lord, Rob. You miss the point. Why do you feel it necessary to blather pseudo-expertise at things you know nothing about? I know just about zero regarding blackjack, but it's a helluva lot more than you.

You don't have to see every card or even most cards to generate a count. All counts are partial counts. Any count you have at any table has explanatory value.

I have lousy eyes. I can see the cards at most adjoining tables. The cards you do not see are not part of the partial counts.

What's the mystery? KewlJ has explained this stuff to you ad nauseum.

Very good Redietz. Every count IS a partial count. That is the short of it and that is what someone like Rob refuses to believe and is unable to grasp.

It also is why the higher level counts don't add as much power as higher level count proponents think and argue....but that is a different discussion.

[kewlJ]

Oh and by the way Rob can't locate any legitimate players to argue his position. But I have 5 professional players, 3 of them in the blackjack hall of fame that have gone on record saying that they have at times, when conditions were favorable to do so, tracked a second table.

[Rob.Singer]

What I have written most certainly is the truth. If you say otherwise, YOU are the liar coach belly. And it is all still preserved on this forum for anyone who wants to look for themselves.

Non-stop bs. It was all said when you chickened out of meeting up with Alan to prove a real time ability to do your stoopid counting of two tables. Any blurry pics taken by Alan are irrelevant. I did the same trial with a pit boss overnight with no players at the Peppermill. Your head would have to constantly be turned towards the 2nd table in order not to miss any cards---and that's assuming no obstructions or cards not clearly visible, which is most.

In short, it's just another of your phony internet fabrications that's gotten you banned from multiple forums.

Wise up.

Good lord, Rob. You miss the point. Why do you feel it necessary to blather pseudo-expertise at things you know nothing about? I know just about zero regarding blackjack, but it's a helluva lot more than you.

You don't have to see every card or even most cards to generate a count. All counts are partial counts. Any count you have at any table has explanatory value.

I have lousy eyes. I can see the cards at most adjoining tables. The cards you do not see are not part of the partial counts.

What's the mystery? KewlJ has explained this stuff to you ad nauseum, and you refuse to acknowledge it. That doesn't make you correct. If you were correct, you would have tracked down a blackjack expert or a pit boss and quoted them about how impossible this is while quoting sources.

You haven't done that. Everybody knows why you haven't done that.

What an idiot. Ask any counter if they'd play at a table where "most cards" played aren't able to be counted. And you're right--you know less than nothing about bj. Also unfortunate for you is when kew lied about being able to count two tables simultaneously, he said he could do it accurately enuf to have an edge. Then when challenged he started the mother of all walk-backs. The Joe Biden of bj claims. Maybe you missed that.

Weird. Just plain weird.

[Rob.Singer]

Oh and by the way Rob can't locate any legitimate players to argue his position. But I have 5 professional players, 3 of them in the blackjack hall of fame that have gone on record saying that they have at times, when conditions were favorable to do so, tracked a second table.

And I know 3 other "HoFers" who have gone on record claiming they can accurately at times count THREE tables at once. So go ahead andprove yours and I'll prove mine....of course, after you finish pumping redietz from behind.....

[kewlJ]

What planet do you live on Rob? Almost nothing you say is even close to true any more.

Is this what old age is to you? Just telling lie after lie with no regard for truth? I guess it is that and waiting for someone to change your diaper. How exciting it must be to be you.

[mickeycrimm]

But you and Blackhole shouldn't have any trouble finding a bac game. I'm looking forward to your trip reports. It'll give me something to do while I'm shut in.

All that winning and comps. Piece of cake. You just need to vary your bets and follow the streaks like MDawg does.

Keep the stories and pictures coming MDawg. You’re bringing out all the envious jealous self-proclaimed alleged AP’s from the cracks of the concrete. There pretending your posts don’t bother them but believe me, you’re putting all of them into a tail-spin.

Mickeycrimm thinks he’s special on these sites after up-grading his life to a two-bit AP slot hustler, after being a homeless alcoholic traveling the hobo routes jumping on vacant trains and camping out in the woods. He deserves a lot of credit since he improved his lifestyle to hopefully quitting drinking, getting a roof over his head, a car, and a few pesos in the bank. Sadly, I believe the running around he does year-round trying to hustle 2-bit slots gave him some present serious heart conditions. He has a thread somewhere here showing pictures of him traveling all over the place.

You’ll notice he always makes sure to attack my ass on this forum. Simply because I’m not an AP and never was and doubt most the bullshit he and others like Kewlj print here. He also realizes I could buy and sell his 2-bit ass like scrap metal and it drives him crazy.

I’ve posted many stories about my gambling days and it drives that skumbag insane. He realizes his pathetic lifestyle is like tip money to me. His entire bankroll couldn’t cover the landscaping done at any one of my homes.

Sadly, he really thinks he’s special like most AP’s because of what they do, and wants in the worst way to be recognized, and this is one of the only places he could do that.

MDawg, did you know Mickcrimm was interviewed twice on Gambling with An Edge? That’s like winning the Noble Peace Prize on these forums. If you want to know what I’m talking about, pull one of those interviews up I guess on You-Tube. If not, maybe Micky could give you a link. Anyone of those two interviews should be enough to convince you to stop your present ways and try to duplicate his.

You can always tell when I get under brokeassblackhole's skin. His fictitious posts get extra nasty. That's because he's a bitter old bustout. Dude never could keep a bankroll and is jealous of anyone that can.

I spend more on breakfast than you've ever made in a week, brokeassblackhole. Cheer up. Tomorrow is a new month and you get your food stamps again. What's your favorite? Top Ramen? Well, might not be your favorite, just the one you have to eat the most.

Hey how's things down at the soup line? That's where you and your gambling buddies hang, right? Slurp that soup, bitch.

Now, if you just had it in you to follow in MDawgs footsteps you could get off the welfare. Just vary your bets and play the streaks. Quit all your sniveling and get to it. You just might make enough to finally buy some dentures, you toothless fuck.

[mickeycrimm]

Non-stop bs. It was all said when you chickened out of meeting up with Alan to prove a real time ability to do your stoopid counting of two tables. Any blurry pics taken by Alan are irrelevant. I did the same trial with a pit boss overnight with no players at the Peppermill. Your head would have to constantly be turned towards the 2nd table in order not to miss any cards---and that's assuming no obstructions or cards not clearly visible, which is most.

In short, it's just another of your phony internet fabrications that's gotten you banned from multiple forums.

Wise up.

Good lord, Rob. You miss the point. Why do you feel it necessary to blather pseudo-expertise at things you know nothing about? I know just about zero regarding blackjack, but it's a helluva lot more than you.

You don't have to see every card or even most cards to generate a count. All counts are partial counts. Any count you have at any table has explanatory value.

I have lousy eyes. I can see the cards at most adjoining tables. The cards you do not see are not part of the partial counts.

What's the mystery? KewlJ has explained this stuff to you ad nauseum, and you refuse to acknowledge it. That doesn't make you correct. If you were correct, you would have tracked down a blackjack expert or a pit boss and quoted them about how impossible this is while quoting sources.

You haven't done that. Everybody knows why you haven't done that.

What an idiot. Ask any counter if they'd play at a table where "most cards" played aren't able to be counted. And you're right--you know less than nothing about bj. Also unfortunate for you is when kew lied about being able to count two tables simultaneously, he said he could do it accurately enuf to have an edge. Then when challenged he started the mother of all walk-backs. The Joe Biden of bj claims. Maybe you missed that.

Weird. Just plain weird.

The cards played are just part of the deck, not the whole deck. Hence, it's a partial count.

[MDawg]

Baccarat tournament:
This is the chip start at the initial table:

I came in first place at the first table and made it to the semifinals

but came in only second place at the semi finals table - so I did not advance to the finals.

That's the bad news. It was exciting though.

The GOOD news is that before the tournament I played a mere three shoes, and again, barely betting, won $14,100.

I had some ups and downs towards the beginning of the first shoe, but once I got to $2K ahead it was smooooooth Billll all the way up.

Interestingly, at my table where four of us played, two of us won, one broke even, and one lost...simply because the other two did not follow my bet spread. I won more than anyone else at my table. I was the big player at that table tonight.

But speaking of big players, the fat guy I saw last night who was down something like $40K and came back to leave ahead something like $10K ahead last night has kept winning. He's betting crazily and was up $340,000. last I saw him. Slobby, fat guy, no jewelry, poorly dressed with a fat unattractive wife, winning big. I get the feeling by how nervous he was when he was down forty last night that the money really means something to him. Good for him, beat the house for all you can!

My total ahead now is pushing thirty grand for the trip. I cashed the yellows and the black chip, two grand at the high limit pit cashier and 2100 at the main cage, no questions asked, and now have three flags stashed away to deal with at the end of the trip.

By the way, and doubt this will mean anything to any of you, but I discussed with one of the dealers how to "read" the doughnuts, hamburgers and french fries on the video Bacc screen, and apparently there is an alternate way to read them that anticipates the next hand versus simply looking at what color it is now. Interestingly, last night my friend who lives at Encore texted me about how he had been reading them wrong. I didn't understand what he meant last night, but I do now. However, those predictors may mean nothing or they may mean everything, just depends on the shoe. I was just lucky enough to cut shoes - I cut them myself and the other players were insisting that I do the cutting since I was doing so well - where the patterns were discernible and we got several great bank and player runs. There was no need to move - I just kept winning at the same table. Really nice.

A different fat guy (not the one up $340K) beat me at the semifinals tables and won the entire tournament. It must be their night. The night of the fat boys! Well, more power to them, sock it to the casino!

I got take out Hattie B's again for dinner, including one box for one of the female dealers at my table tonight that I dropped off for her on the way back up to the suite.


It's slutty girl night at the Cosmo, they're all over da place trying to rustle up attention. Sorry I don't have any pics of that for you, but taking pics of random scantily clad betties is not my thing. You'll just have to take my word for it on this one.

[wasilla]

I'm not a math guy, but I've written an equation.

Post an end of the Bell Curve set of results. + Attribute this to something that doesn't logically explain these results. = Controversy and exploding heads.

Wasilla, I am not a math guy either. But here is the problem: some of these guy are math defiers. Math matters. Almost everything in life comes down to math. And everything in gambling is about math.

So is it possible to defy the math and win playing -EV game? Of course! That is what gambling is about. But to do so over and over and over gets into twilight zone territory. And that is what some of these guys claim. And it is the same guys making these impossible claims again and again and again. And let's be clear....when something has a 1 in several hundred million chance of something...i call that impossible.

Now APs, whether professional, semi-pro or recreational live by the math. And when we point out that these claims are impossible (by my definition), we are met with personal attacks. It's simply alternative reality stuff. That's what this forum and the math defies that dominate it are about.

Hi KJ. I really am not disagreeing with anything you say. When I say "impossible" I'm pretty much indicating that I would bet my life or yours against it, so I don't use the word a lot. We would probably still bet our money on the same side of how truthful claims are. I believe that my equation works whether the claim is actually true or not. I recently claimed to have won 10,000 credits over a 13 hour video poker session. Sure they were only quarters, but that's a decent amount of credits. If you're a VP player, you've probably seen, heard about, or lived this story. Do you believe me though? If I claim that I was able to win that day because I played + EV games, had an adequate bankroll, and was able to play through a bad bout of variance before finally having a great day? Perhaps you do. If, however, I tell you that won because of some mystical connection to the machine or some betting strategy? No fucking way do you believe me. Right?

[wasilla]

I haven't played BJ for 20 years, but I can assure everyone that counts are partial counts. Counters work with the cards they are able to see. Obviously seeing more cards is better. Obviously counters make betting decisions when a high percentage of cards have not been seen. I am pretty sure I am only stating the obvious here. It really seems that some of the positions that are taken on this forum are pretty disingenuous. I really don't understand the purpose of this. If you don't already know, you could learn with an open mind. If you don't want to learn, what's your goal?

[wasilla]

I read MDawg's adventures because I think he is an actual rich guy that grew up with money talking about how guys who grew up with money live. If that part isn't true, it seems a great fictional portrayal. So I like the read MDawg whether it is true or not.

I REALLY wish that some of the rest of you would do your own threads (yes I'm looking at you Mickeycrimm among many others). This would be a fascinating site if you guys bothered to tell your stories. I gather that Dan's an IT guy, so maybe he would agree to bar anyone from a thread they were insisting on derailing. I don't know a lot of people here, but I already know that I want to here about Mickey, Axelwolf, Monet, KewlJ, Maxpen, redietz, and I even want to hear about zen king's typical weeks instead of just his rants. I'm sure there are other people here with exceptional stories worth telling. It seems like this site settles for a lot of trolling, but you guys would have an audience if you wanted.

[blackhole]

Keep the stories and pictures coming MDawg. You’re bringing out all the envious jealous self-proclaimed alleged AP’s from the cracks of the concrete. There pretending your posts don’t bother them but believe me, you’re putting all of them into a tail-spin.

Mickeycrimm thinks he’s special on these sites after up-grading his life to a two-bit AP slot hustler, after being a homeless alcoholic traveling the hobo routes jumping on vacant trains and camping out in the woods. He deserves a lot of credit since he improved his lifestyle to hopefully quitting drinking, getting a roof over his head, a car, and a few pesos in the bank. Sadly, I believe the running around he does year-round trying to hustle 2-bit slots gave him some present serious heart conditions. He has a thread somewhere here showing pictures of him traveling all over the place.

You’ll notice he always makes sure to attack my ass on this forum. Simply because I’m not an AP and never was and doubt most the bullshit he and others like Kewlj print here. He also realizes I could buy and sell his 2-bit ass like scrap metal and it drives him crazy.

I’ve posted many stories about my gambling days and it drives that skumbag insane. He realizes his pathetic lifestyle is like tip money to me. His entire bankroll couldn’t cover the landscaping done at any one of my homes.

Sadly, he really thinks he’s special like most AP’s because of what they do, and wants in the worst way to be recognized, and this is one of the only places he could do that.

MDawg, did you know Mickcrimm was interviewed twice on Gambling with An Edge? That’s like winning the Noble Peace Prize on these forums. If you want to know what I’m talking about, pull one of those interviews up I guess on You-Tube. If not, maybe Micky could give you a link. Anyone of those two interviews should be enough to convince you to stop your present ways and try to duplicate his.

You can always tell when I get under brokeassblackhole's skin. His fictitious posts get extra nasty. That's because he's a bitter old bustout. Dude never could keep a bankroll and is jealous of anyone that can.

I spend more on breakfast than you've ever made in a week, brokeassblackhole. Cheer up. Tomorrow is a new month and you get your food stamps again. What's your favorite? Top Ramen? Well, might not be your favorite, just the one you have to eat the most.

Hey how's things down at the soup line? That's where you and your gambling buddies hang, right? Slurp that soup, bitch.

Now, if you just had it in you to follow in MDawgs footsteps you could get off the welfare. Just vary your bets and play the streaks. Quit all your sniveling and get to it. You just might make enough to finally buy some dentures, you toothless fuck.[/QUOTE]

Keep the stories and pictures coming MDawg. You’re bringing out all the envious jealous self-proclaimed alleged AP’s from the cracks of the concrete. There pretending your posts don’t bother them but believe me, you’re putting all of them into a tail-spin.

Mickeycrimm thinks he’s special on these sites after up-grading his life to a two-bit AP slot hustler, after being a homeless alcoholic traveling the hobo routes jumping on vacant trains and camping out in the woods. He deserves a lot of credit since he improved his lifestyle to hopefully quitting drinking, getting a roof over his head, a car, and a few pesos in the bank. Sadly, I believe the running around he does year-round trying to hustle 2-bit slots gave him some present serious heart conditions. He has a thread somewhere here showing pictures of him traveling all over the place.

You’ll notice he always makes sure to attack my ass on this forum. Simply because I’m not an AP and never was and doubt most the bullshit he and others like Kewlj print here. He also realizes I could buy and sell his 2-bit ass like scrap metal and it drives him crazy.

I’ve posted many stories about my gambling days and it drives that skumbag insane. He realizes his pathetic lifestyle is like tip money to me. His entire bankroll couldn’t cover the landscaping done at any one of my homes.

Sadly, he really thinks he’s special like most AP’s because of what they do, and wants in the worst way to be recognized, and this is one of the only places he could do that.

MDawg, did you know Mickcrimm was interviewed twice on Gambling with An Edge? That’s like winning the Noble Peace Prize on these forums. If you want to know what I’m talking about, pull one of those interviews up I guess on You-Tube. If not, maybe Micky could give you a link. Anyone of those two interviews should be enough to convince you to stop your present ways and try to duplicate his.

[mickeycrimm]

You can always tell when I get under brokeassblackhole's skin. His fictitious posts get extra nasty. That's because he's a bitter old bustout. Dude never could keep a bankroll and is jealous of anyone that can.

I spend more on breakfast than you've ever made in a week, brokeassblackhole. Cheer up. Tomorrow is a new month and you get your food stamps again. What's your favorite? Top Ramen? Well, might not be your favorite, just the one you have to eat the most.

Hey how's things down at the soup line? That's where you and your gambling buddies hang, right? Slurp that soup, bitch.

Now, if you just had it in you to follow in MDawgs footsteps you could get off the welfare. Just vary your bets and play the streaks. Quit all your sniveling and get to it. You just might make enough to finally buy some dentures, you toothless fuck.

Keep the stories and pictures coming MDawg. You’re bringing out all the envious jealous self-proclaimed alleged AP’s from the cracks of the concrete. There pretending your posts don’t bother them but believe me, you’re putting all of them into a tail-spin.

Mickeycrimm thinks he’s special on these sites after up-grading his life to a two-bit AP slot hustler, after being a homeless alcoholic traveling the hobo routes jumping on vacant trains and camping out in the woods. He deserves a lot of credit since he improved his lifestyle to hopefully quitting drinking, getting a roof over his head, a car, and a few pesos in the bank. Sadly, I believe the running around he does year-round trying to hustle 2-bit slots gave him some present serious heart conditions. He has a thread somewhere here showing pictures of him traveling all over the place.

You’ll notice he always makes sure to attack my ass on this forum. Simply because I’m not an AP and never was and doubt most the bullshit he and others like Kewlj print here. He also realizes I could buy and sell his 2-bit ass like scrap metal and it drives him crazy.

I’ve posted many stories about my gambling days and it drives that skumbag insane. He realizes his pathetic lifestyle is like tip money to me. His entire bankroll couldn’t cover the landscaping done at any one of my homes.

Sadly, he really thinks he’s special like most AP’s because of what they do, and wants in the worst way to be recognized, and this is one of the only places he could do that.

MDawg, did you know Mickcrimm was interviewed twice on Gambling with An Edge? That’s like winning the Noble Peace Prize on these forums. If you want to know what I’m talking about, pull one of those interviews up I guess on You-Tube. If not, maybe Micky could give you a link. Anyone of those two interviews should be enough to convince you to stop your present ways and try to duplicate his.

[/QUOTE]

Jump in there and get your feet wet, brokeassblackhole. MDawg just made another post showing how easy it is. What, are you chickenshit? Just think about all that money. All that comp. All you have to do is imitate MDawg's strategy. Piece of cake. In no time you'll be giving trip reports with pics of all the money and the comped suites. So easy even a dimwit like you can do it.

[blackhole]

This should help put in perspective where Mickycrimm is coming from. (If you could stomach it for any length.) There are a couple more of these same type interviews with him, which also should give you an idea of how desperate that clown show needs someone to talk to. He got all kinds of kudos for this from the rest of the ass clowns on this site.

[blackhole]

If you think that interview was pathetic, here's a more recent one. You just can't make this stuff up.

[accountinquestion]

If you think that interview was pathetic, here's a more recent one. You just can't make this stuff up.

I listened to them and I am a fan. Micky and I disagree about a lot but the guy has had an interesting life. I've had jobs and if I had continued down that path I'd been easily making 6 figures a year. For what? To buy a bunch of shit so I can convince myself wasting my life away in an office is worth it?

My life is full of interesting crap. I've only been to 1 superbowl party viewing thing and the few people there lost over half a million. I wont go to em anymore. Dont want to jinx people. Last year I smoked weed with a daughter of one of the wealthiest Americans .. dad worth well over 50 billion. Yet I've still been basically broke most of my life. I have endless weird stories. Who wants a dipshit corporate job if one has a soul?

[Half Smoke]

He is the one that convinced me that picking up the count at ANY point had value.

yeah, I remember him writing that too, but I don't really get it.

let's say 6 decks. the dealer cuts off 2. then you come by and start counting after 2 decks have been played.
so now, there are double the no. of unseen, uncounted cards

it's basically the same as if you started the shoe and the dealer cut 4 of the 6 decks out of play
nobody who knows what they were doing would play in such a game (and the house would never offer it because it would cut the hands per hour by so much, but that's besides the point)

so, I totally don't get it
unless he was only referring to double deck games - but I don't remember him writing that - but if that's what he meant then that would make sense - otherwise not, to me anyway