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  1. #2921
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    can I ask what was the intent of your proposal?
    Here are his intentions as stated on March 27...

    Originally Posted by Ivyleaguegrad View Post
    I’d love to play with you at either Wynn or mgm next trip
    (about 8 days. I am at the Wynn tower suites the 3-5th and mgm skyofts 6-10.
    I’d love to just mimic what you bet.
    See what I mean?...that contradicts what he posted on the forum.

    The truth does not change.

  2. #2922
    I recall some posts ExpectedValue made at WOV to the effect of that he was willing to just sit at my Baccarat table and bet exactly what I bet. (I have SO many real world friends who are fighting each other for the chance to do the same, but I just don't want the pressure or responsibility for their bankrolls.)





    However, once this Challenge fell apart, ExpectedValue also posted a bunch of posts at WOV where he now attempts to ridicule or at least question my claims and session reports.

    This does not compute.
    Last edited by MDawg; 04-11-2021 at 10:59 PM.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  3. #2923
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    The parakeets are more like the Gang of Four
    Some of your most attentive supporters have been censored.

    But the neutral observers on WOV all support you in this dispute.

  4. #2924
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    The parakeets are more like the Gang of Four I have mentioned before, jbjb, UNKewlJ, AxelAss and MrV.
    I take this as a compliment. jbjb and Axelwolf are two of the top AP's on this forum, who like myself, who I don't consider a "top" AP, we all play for a living and understand the math and how casinos work. Now MisterV, not an AP as far as I know. Do you do any APing MisterV? BUT, he understands the math and how casinos work like the rest of us. He just enjoys donating his money, apparently.

    And then there is a guy, the guy who's thread is the #1 thread in the LOSING BETTING SYSTEM section at WoV. Hum??, Who is more credible?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  5. #2925
    ExpectedValue, Have fun talking to the parakeet UNKewlJ. As you already know, no one likes the UNKewl one, everyone ridicules him and calls him out for being a serial liar.

    I comment occasionally about his shortcomings in general, but stopped responding to any of the repetitive nonsense he posts, long ago. He is obsessed with MDawg.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  6. #2926
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    But the neutral observers on WOV all support you in this dispute.
    We don't have an emoji laughing hard enough for this one.

    By "neutral" do you mean all the sockpuppets and alternative personalities that reside in Mdawgs head, all typing on the same computer, using VPN's, which Wizard has conveniently decided to look the other way and allow?

    There is only one thing that Mdawg has succeed at. Mdawg set out to make a mockery of WoV and a joke of Wizard and he has accomplished that.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  7. #2927
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    ExpectedValue, Have fun talking to the parakeet UNKewlJ. As you already know, no one likes the UNKewl one, everyone ridicules him and calls him out for being a serial liar.

    I comment occasionally about his shortcomings in general, but stopped responding to any of the repetitive nonsense he posts, long ago. He is obsessed with MDawg.
    Everyone knows you are reading every word I write. You can't answer legitimately, so you call names and pretend you are ignoring, but you are not. Everything about you is pretending. You are completely detached from reality!

    BUT you have the #1 thread in the LOSING BETTING SYSTEM section at WoV. I'll give ya that.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  8. #2928
    Originally Posted by kewlJ
    Now MisterV, not an AP as far as I know. Do you do any APing MisterV? BUT, he understands the math and how casinos work like the rest of us. He just enjoys donating his money, apparently.
    No, I am not an AP: I play for fun.

    About twice a month I gamble at Chinook Winds and Spirit Mtn. tribal casinos.

    I've gambled in Las Vegas maybe ten or so times, the last being about three years ago.

    I am interested in pretty much all things related to Las Vegas and casino gambling; I enjoy gambling forums; been posting for a couple decades.

    I started with craps as taught by John Patrick's books; over time I also picked up an interest in playing a couple specific slots in high limit rooms.

    Not because I had an advantage, but because I thought and still think it is a fun form of recreation.

    Yes, I know the math, but I choose to play these silly games anyway; I'm quite comfortable financially so I can afford to play and lose and not worry about it, so long as I keep the lid on going tilt.

    My life time overall loss is about sixty-six thousand dollars, which when averaged over the course of twenty years is less than what I would have spent on tobacco and alcohol, had I not stopped smoking and drinking.

    I've nothing to "teach" anyone about the finer points of gambling, as I am more of a student than teacher.

    Thank you for asking.
    What, Me Worry?

  9. #2929
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ
    Now MisterV, not an AP as far as I know. Do you do any APing MisterV? BUT, he understands the math and how casinos work like the rest of us. He just enjoys donating his money, apparently.
    No, I am not an AP: I play for fun.

    About twice a month I gamble at Chinook Winds and Spirit Mtn. tribal casinos.

    I've gambled in Las Vegas maybe ten or so times, the last being about three years ago.

    I am interested in pretty much all things related to Las Vegas and casino gambling; I enjoy gambling forums; been posting for a couple decades.

    I started with craps as taught by John Patrick's books; over time I also picked up an interest in playing a couple specific slots in high limit rooms.

    Not because I had an advantage, but because I thought and still think it is a fun form of recreation.

    Yes, I know the math, but I choose to play these silly games anyway; I'm quite comfortable financially so I can afford to play and lose and not worry about it, so long as I keep the lid on going tilt.

    My life time overall loss is about sixty-six thousand dollars, which when averaged over the course of twenty years is less than what I would have spent on tobacco and alcohol, had I not stopped smoking and drinking.

    I've nothing to "teach" anyone about the finer points of gambling, as I am more of a student than teacher.

    Thank you for asking.
    And that is ALL fine and good. Every word of it. Congrats on your perspective.

    My point was, you understand the math and how casinos work, and what rings true and what rings as BS, so your name on Mdawgs list, I consider also in good company. Of course that is kind of the point. ANYBODY that understands the math and how the casino industry works, MDawg is going to have a problem with, because it conflicts with his twilight zone, alternative reality.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  10. #2930
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    The parakeets are more like the Gang of Four I have mentioned before, jbjb, UNKewlJ, AxelAss and MrV.

    Mission146 did miss a few aspects of the challenge and got some other things wrong, but otherwise he made a good go at it. Although sometimes REDietz is closer to the mark, this time REDietz missed most everything and came up with wildly bizarre interpretations with little more than a free wheeling, Marx Brothers approach to the reality of what actually happened in this challenge, or what happens at a Baccarat table.
    It's not a big deal. Nothing would take away from the point that you weren't required to agree to anything that wasn't stated ahead of time.

    I mainly felt that, even with the introduction of the new term, (if what side you bet wasn't disclosed) you still had everything to gain and the EV loss on your play would remain more than covered. Let's not forget that you offered to meet the Wizard for free (at one point) and he could watch you play...my initial impression was that the introduction of money was just to get Wizard to do it. It seemed you were going to let him watch and report on the results of one session's results without outside money involved.

    As far as when Banker commissions are or are not paid, that could be kept track of as it is done. Either way, nothing would have to be disclosed other than what the bet amounts were, the results of those bets and the total paid in Banker Commissions. It's beyond me why you would care about the individual bet amounts being disclosed (not just recorded---also disclosed) as long as what side you were on wasn't mentioned.

    Anyway, as I said, you were under no obligation to accept an adjustment to the terms after the fact---so don't get my position on that confused. What does confuse me is why you wouldn't try to middle ground (like with what I said above) the new terms since not only is it +EV for you, but you also come out looking good regardless of winning or losing the session.

    (This post may also be copy/pasted to WoV, depending on how the thread over there is going.)

  11. #2931
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    Some of your most attentive supporters have been censored.

    But the neutral observers on WOV all support you in this dispute.
    I support that he was under no obligation to accept the altered terms. That said, I don't understand why he wouldn't with a modification or two.

  12. #2932
    I just got tired of ExpectedValue's constant input of new terms. Enough was enough, and as well the dichotomy of his stating that he wanting to play with me and mirror my exact bets and then occasionally inputting comments that implied that he didn't believe my session reports made me question his over all motives. But as I have stated above, I somehow don't get the impression that he is a bad guy, and would rather just leave that subject alone. In any case, that ship has sailed and the DarkOz one assumed its position in port.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  13. #2933
    You misspelled his name its supposed to be DrakOz, why the sudden change ?

  14. #2934
    So the super wealthy Dog, who called Drakoz every name in the book, now is kissing his ass ( bite the hand that feeds!) for peanuts according to his supposed net worth. Once again things are adding up. Darkoz is such a fucking bozo, for going along with this. Anything for attention a big shot. You guys are very similar in the narcissistic department.

  15. #2935
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    So the super wealthy Dog, who called Drakoz every name in the book, now is kissing his ass ( bite the hand that feeds!) for peanuts according to his supposed net worth. Once again things are adding up. Darkoz is such a fucking bozo, for going along with this. Anything for attention a big shot. You guys are very similar in the narcissistic department.
    I Like DarkOz, but I have to agree with you on this. This is very idiotic, I dont care if you have more money than God.

    It doesn't get to the bottom of anything. MD is just going to have his Daddy put up the money for him to play.

  16. #2936
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I Like DarkOz, but I have to agree with you on this. This is very idiotic, I dont care if you have more money than God.

    It doesn't get to the bottom of anything. MD is just going to have his Daddy put up the money for him to play.
    I would think with all your time, knowledge and circle of friends you would be far too busy destroying Casinos and taking their money to care about some guy posting on the internet under the name of MDawg.
    Wasting all this time on MDawg while you could be spending it with your wife and loved ones.
    Guess she doesn't matter as much as the Dawg.
    Keep your mask on and stay six feet apart from others while you get your monthly Covid Shot.
    And don't forget to go out and target practice once in awhile since you now actually own a firearm.

    What do you get if you prove that MDawg is wrong and or a phony?
    Do they give you a gold star or a cookie???
    I like cookies.
    Last edited by monet; 04-12-2021 at 07:57 PM.

  17. #2937
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    So the super wealthy Dog, who called Drakoz every name in the book, now is kissing his ass ( bite the hand that feeds!) for peanuts according to his supposed net worth. Once again things are adding up. Darkoz is such a fucking bozo, for going along with this. Anything for attention a big shot. You guys are very similar in the narcissistic department.
    I Like DarkOz, but I have to agree with you on this. This is very idiotic, I dont care if you have more money than God.

    It doesn't get to the bottom of anything. MD is just going to have his Daddy put up the money for him to play.
    There are plenty of things people criticize me for on spending my money.

    I get a ten cent comic book from 1954 in the mail and my girlfriend asks if I spent the cover price of ten cents and when I say, "No, I spent $1400 on it" she gives me that look.

    I just spent $1500 on a stereo, anamorphic scope super 8mm print of Star Wars in pristine condition. My kids think I am crazy. "Dad, don't you own this on Blu-ray for $20?"

    I spend my money as I see fit because I can and perhaps because I was homeless for a while, money doesn't have the same desperate allure. If I lost all my money tomorrow, I have been there, done that. I can survive. Unlike many people who would just jump out the windows of their high-rise.

    Anyway, you and MDawg talk about five figure watches (Do they even tell time? And more accurately than my cell phone whilch even adjusts automatically for daylight savings time?)

    The wisest way to spend your money is to spend it the way you want. And bedamned what other people think of it. Because everyone has their tastes.

    I personally am psyched about seeing this challenge go forward. And if it doesn't I get my money back and have made a dramatic point as well.

  18. #2938
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post

    There are plenty of things people criticize me for on spending my money.

    I get a ten cent comic book from 1954 in the mail and my girlfriend asks if I spent the cover price of ten cents and when I say, "No, I spent $1400 on it" she gives me that look.

    I just spent $1500 on a stereo, anamorphic scope super 8mm print of Star Wars in pristine condition. My kids think I am crazy. "Dad, don't you own this on Blu-ray for $20?"

    I spend my money as I see fit because I can and perhaps because I was homeless for a while, money doesn't have the same desperate allure. If I lost all my money tomorrow, I have been there, done that. I can survive. Unlike many people who would just jump out the windows of their high-rise.

    Anyway, you and MDawg talk about five figure watches (Do they even tell time? And more accurately than my cell phone whilch even adjusts automatically for daylight savings time?)

    The wisest way to spend your money is to spend it the way you want. And bedamned what other people think of it. Because everyone has their tastes.

    I personally am psyched about seeing this challenge go forward. And if it doesn't I get my money back and have made a dramatic point as well.
    Oh I see now.
    When it comes to spending money you believe like myself... don't tell me what to do.
    However, when it comes to masks, covid shots and 6 feet apart you believe the Government should tell us what to do.
    I'm with you on the homeless, writing and money front.
    Just don't agree with your idealism on calling people racists, politics and a few other things.
    At least when you have been hypocritical on this site you admitted that you were being a hypocrite.
    I'll give you that much.
    Whatever.

  19. #2939
    Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
    I personally am psyched about seeing this challenge go forward. And if it doesn't I get my money back and have made a dramatic point as well.
    It is your money and you can indeed spend it anyway you want. Personally, I would be psyched if this challenge was going to prove anything about Mdawgs level of play and style of play. Unfortunately the way this challenge was set up and you took over, it doesn't really do that. There should have been no bonus money for winning a session. That encourages him to just milk a small win once he gets ahead and that proves nothing about his normal play or normal level of play, as told by the great storyline. It should have been a normal session of play and see if he wins and the level of bets. That would have been some insight.

    It is like a side challenge different from Mdawgs so called regular play. It is like if someone claimed to be the greatest basketball player alive, you would want to see him in a actual game. And this challenge is about shooting foul shots. But I hope you get your money's worth and enjoy it. And I give you credit for jumping in to save the challenge if it is important to you.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  20. #2940
    I also have a very different attitude about homelessness. I too have been there. I have worked hard to put that far behind me and I never want to go back. And you have kids. Maybe you can survive, can they? I just don't really get a comment like, "If I lost it all tomorrow..." If you are willing to go back so non-chalantly what was the point in fighting so hard to get out of that situation? But to each his own.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

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